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Hunter » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:33 pm wrote:Well maybe that is the point, nobody with any sense takes Icke or Springmaeier seriously, might be a good place to hide a few kernals of truth, that some people may be on to, among all the other outrageous BS they peddle.
His conspiracy writing and lectures have been a huge influence on David Icke. Much of Springmeier's misinfo has made it into Icke's books. For example, the Belgian castle called Chateau Amerois is referred to by both Springmeier and Icke as the "Mothers of Darkness" castle, in which the elite hold ghastly Satanic rituals and slaughter children.
Wombat wrote...Just wanted to flag that -- in light of what we know about Belgium, I fail to see how this is far-fetched, absurd or problematic.
Bueller?
Note of caution: with such notorious manipulative debunkers as Verhaeghen and Alvarez involved, together with evangelical conspiracy researchers as Fritz Springmeier and the Dutch Robin de Ruiter, this story has been rendered pretty much completely useless.
PV 150.311, February 19, 1997 (Eddy Verhaeghen): "Information: Chateau Amerois. Dutchman = R. de Ruiter from Almere. He writes to say that he doesn't know anything besides that his info comes from Springmeier. The info of this person would come from elder Satanists. He mentions "the top 13 Illuminati bloodlines" that make the satanic families the most powerful on earth and "the Illuminati formula uses to create an undetectable mind controlled slave [sic]" that goes about the programming and deprogramming of the victims. Fritz Springmeier of Oregon City (USA)."
Illuminati Slaves Part I: Cisco Wheeler
The story of Cisco Wheeler is unique not only because of her long-term collaboration with lay minister-cum-bank-robber Fritz Springmeier, but because she and Fritz have given the world step-by-step instructions on how to create virtual zombies with "trauma-based mind control".
Cisco Wheeler is one of several women (and a few men, like Jay Parker) who claim they were subjected to stupefyingly complex mind control programming by agents of the U.S. government as part of an MK-ULTRA sub-program they call the Monarch Project. Generally, these people have no conscious recall of their involvement with the project, and must "recover" their "repressed" memories with the aid of hypnosis, journaling, and/or deprogramming.
Monarch Project women are a whole other post. For now, I'll just say that one of the most disconcerting things about the Monarch women is that, almost without exception, they have male "handlers" who have allegedly deprogrammed them. These men accompany them on speaking tours, co-author their books, sit beside them during interviews, and in some cases even marry them.
Fritz Springmeier served this role for Cisco Wheeler. Springmeier is a Christian conspiranoid, recently released from prison after serving time for bombing a porno shop and robbing a bank (you can learn a bit more about him on a Leaving Alex Jonestown post). You may remember him from the post on John Todd (he vociferously defended Todd long after Todd had been discredited, and used a lot of Todd's make-believe family history in his book The Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines).
At the time Cisco met him in the early '90s, Springmeier was a married father running some sort of ministry out of his house.
Building on earlier Monarch Project accounts and Christian Patriot conspiracy tales, Springmeier and Wheeler crafted an Illuminati mythos that has had a tremendous influence on the fringier conspiracy theorists. You can't get very far into the conspiranoia labyrinth without running into their massive self-published tome, The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave, first issued in 1996.
Cisco's Story
You'd think The Illuminati Formula, being heavily based on Cisco Wheeler's "memories", would be chock-full of information about her. It isn't. In fact, so little is known of Wheeler's background that we don't even known what her real name is (it's variously given as Linda Johnson or Linda Anderson, though she maintains her maiden name is Wheeler). She was born in the late 1940s, possibly in the Western U.S. Other than that, the woman is a cipher. She rarely gives interviews, and the only available photo of her is a blurry snapshot perhaps taken at a speaking engagement.
Cisco Wheeler, I guess.
Could also be Mickey Roarke.
Her supposed background
Cisco claims her father's uncle was "General Earl Grant Wheeler... a direct descendant of Ulysses Grant... [and] head of the American military in the Vietnam War." (1) There are some problems with this:
General Earle Gilmore Wheeler (d. 1975) was not related to Ulysses S Grant.
So far as I can determine, he did not have any siblings.
Cisco's paternal ancestors were Illuminati members, and Cisco's birth was planned according to Illuminati "rules". Her father married her mother solely because she was a virtuous Christian woman, and part of the Illuminati's New World Order scheme at that time (the late '40s) was to infiltrate and undermine Christian churches (something also described by John Todd, the first supposed Illuminati member to go public). To this end, Mr. Wheeler became an ordained Pentacostal minister. But that was not his only source of income. In the '60s, he and his uncle (General Wheeler) smuggled drugs out of Vietnam in the bodies of dead U.S. soldiers.
It has long been rumoured that heroin smugglers used soldiers' corpses or coffins to hide their shipments during 'Nam, and infamous New York-based dealer Frank Lucas even bragged about leading this so-called "Cadaver Connection". However, there's no evidence that anyone ever actually used the technique. A key member of Lucas's ring, Leslie "Ike" Atkinson, told journalist Ron Chepesiuk the entire notion was a hoax. (2)
Protip: Sometimes, heroin traffickers lie.
The Illuminati according to Herr Springmeier
Springmeier identifies the Illuminati as a Luciferian organization, also known as Moriah or simply the Circle, headed by a Grande Druid Council. In 1996, when The Illuminati Formula first appeared, the Circle supposedly contained millions of members worldwide. Membership is usually conferred by birth, but recruitment takes place on a limited scale. Rigorous obedience to some sort of code of conduct is required of each and every member, and some degree of mind control is de rigeur. Those who do not submit are dispatched in "ritual gladiator type duels". Escape is next to impossible. "Unless God intervenes, people who are born into the Illuminati don’t escape it while alive." (3)
Like all Illuminati members, Cisco's father worshiped Satan and took part in many arcane rituals, including human sacrifice. Cisco was forced to participate in this lifestyle against her will, much as Lauren Stratford claimed to have been. She was trained up to be a Mother of Darkness, or high priestess, within the Illuminati. Just like John Todd, Edna Moses, and Bill Schnoebelen, Cisco ties homicidal Satanism firmly to Catholics (particularly Jesuits), Freemasons, and Wiccans. She claims her father was a 33rd degree Freemason.
The oldest child in her family, she was selected for trauma-based mind control programming before she was even born. In fact, she says she was first traumatized while in utero. The purpose of the abuse was to traumatize Cisco so severely she would dissociate and develop Multiple Personality Disorder/Dissociative Identity Disorder. This "trauma-based mind control", according to the Monarch Project survivors, is a combination of every kind of mind control technique known to man. Through the skillful use of torture, hypnosis, drugs, and conditioning, Illuminati programmers create DID in children, then program each alternate personality ("alter") to perform a specific function. For instance, one alter might be a sex slave and another an assassin. Each one would be programmed to emerge at a spoken command, carry out whatever actions a controller wished him/her to do, then disappear with another spoken command. The core personality (Cisco) and the other alters would experience a fugue state and remain completely unaware that anything unusual had occurred. Springmeier tells us the techniques were honed by the Nazis and their collaborators; prior to WWII, the Illuminati used more "primitive" methods of mind control. We are to believe that the programmers' methods were already so sophisticated by the late 1940s that they could ensure no "leakage" or co-consciousness would occur among the alters.
Cisco's programming took place in hospitals and military installations throughout California and Oregon, including China Lake Naval Base. She was also taken to Scotty's Castle in Arizona. Her primary programmers were her own father, who went by the codename "Dr. Black", and a mysterious German known as "Dr. Green". Cisco eventually realized that Dr. Green was Josef Mengele. She believes Mengele was active in every state of the union, plus Canada, and sometimes went by names other than Green ("Fairchild" was another alias). Bizarrely, he continued to wear his German uniform well into the '50s, while working at American military installations and hospitals.
According to Springmeier, Mengele had achieved the rank of Grand Master in the Illuminati, and would go on to achieve the even higher rank of Ipsissimus. ("Ipsissimus" was reportedly the title of a grade within the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, though that continues to be disputed, and was later adopted by Aleister Crowley for his own magickal system. It is not a term found beyond this extremely small group of occult practitioners.) As Grand Master, Springmeier explains, Mengele was skilled in Kabbalistic magic, abortions, torture, and programming children. We know Mengele was capable of torture, and he could certainly manage an abortion (he performed many back-alley procedures as a fugitive), but I find it extraordinarily unlikely that a Nazi would study Kabbala. We'll get into his alleged specialties later.
Training
In a radio interview, Cisco vividly described being kept in a cage somewhere in the desert, surrounded by other kids as young as four in their own cages. The children were deprived of food and water for hours at a time. Then Mengele would show up with a fistful of daisies and distribute them to the children one at a time, saying "I love you," or "I love you not." Whenever he said, "I love you not", that child was summarily executed just to frighten the others. Each time this happened, Cisco would be filled with gratitude for being spared, and would express love and appreciation for Mengele - classic trauma bonding. Cisco later learned she had nothing to fear at those times, though; the children who died were "expendables", while she was an Illuminati spawn, too precious to be killed. (1)
Cisco was trained as a sex slave from earliest girlhood. One of her first abusers was President Eisenhower. It is this inclusion of well-known personalities that sets Monarch Project accounts apart from the Illuminati stories of the '70s and '80s (see John Todd, Doc Marquis). Todd mentioned that David Crosby and other musicians of his acquaintance made pacts with Satan, but until the Monarch women came along, celebrities and heads of state were not usually implicated as child-molesting Satanists. Now, everyone from Kris Kristofferson to JFK has been named as part of the Illuminati mind control/Satanic ritual abuse conspiracy matrix.
Cisco says she was trained to be a programmer herself, and admits she (unwittingly) programmed other Illuminati children. Surely she would know their identities, but so far as we know she has not reported their abuse to the proper authorities.
In the previously mentioned radio interview, Cisco said she was shown records indicating that about 2 million children were programmed in the late '60s. This contradicts The Illuminati Formula, in which she and Springmeier state that the Illuminati rarely keep written records of anything.
“You better understand that you don’t work for the federal government. You don’t work for the state government. You don’t even work for the county government except that... You work for ‘We the People’.” That’s what you do. And any time you represent some other organization, it’s like you represent a foreign nation. Like representing Russia over here. Or Mexico. Or Canada. It’s treason to the people of your county anytime you sign an MOU with a foreign agent… The county sheriff, it’s the same with you. You’re paid and your elected, you’re paid by ‘We the People’ to uphold the laws of Wyoming and the United States Constitution…When you go over that [county] line, you don’t have no jurisdiction and authority. When you’re here, you have all the Constitutional jurisdiction and authority. You have the only policing power and you have the only arresting power. Even if the FBI man comes to your county, he does not have arresting power. He might make you think he does. And the rest of you might think he does, but he does not have arresting power in this county. That man right there [sheriff] is the only man that has the power. He can delegate that power only to his deputies that you pay for. He can’t delegate that power to a… BLM ranger. No way in the world can he…Now I want to tell you something about protecting your property. I do not expect that sheriff to do one darn thing that you’re not willing to do. If you’re not willing to stand on the line and protect your life, liberty and property, don’t you dare expect your sheriff to do that!... Again, I honor you for your [sheriff] position. You can tell I’m very serious. You do have the most powerful position in this United States of America - more so than the president of the United States, more so than his army. You have that much on your shoulders. He don’t have no jurisdictional authority, neither does his army. But you do.”[12]
“When Republicans take control of the government next year, one of the things that should be done is a complete inventory of property owned by the Federal Government. Once that inventory is done, the properties that are not needed by the Defense Department or that are not a part of the National Park Service or are not needed for a compelling reason should be sold to American citizens. Selling this property would get these properties off the government rolls. Most importantly, it would shrink the size of government.”[13]
“Sheriff Gillespie is absolutely not doing his job. He has promised the people of Clark County that he would protect them from all enemies both foreign and domestic, and then when somebody needs his help, when they’re being attack by the government, he says, ‘Well, you’re gonna to have to call BLM.’ Well BLM is the perpetrator. So, that’s like saying a citizen that’s being attacked by the street gangs, ‘Well call the street gangs and tell them to stop it.’.. That’s really how asinine this is and the response of Sheriff Gillespie is very disturbing.”
“Yeah, he could go out there and just say ‘Look Feds, I’m not going to allow this.’ Just as Sheriff Demayo has done in Nye County, Nevada, told them to take a hike, and they threatened him with a SWAT Team and he said, ‘I got one too.’ So, you know, it really takes somebody who knows and understands their office, their job, and their oath of office, and Sheriff Gillespie just has no clue as to what he’s doing...The Sheriff s can stop this sort of abuse immediately and it’s really regrettable that he’s allowed this to escalate to this point. He’s not doing his job and we’re reaching out to him to, please sir, examine what you have sworn to do, and what you are doing or not doing, and get after it, protect these people from what’s going on.”
“Please advise anyone and everyone in the vicinity of the Bundy Ranch in Clark County, Nevada to get in their vehicles and get there asap. Pete Santilli is geared up & enroute & will be on the ground within the next several hours. GMN will provide live updates and broadcasts. Most importantly, we need every Patriot – protestors, Constitutionalists, Militia member, Oathkeeper, etc. --- to mobilize immediately. Let’s put the Feds in a FEMA camp & throw away the key! We the people will not relent; we will stand & fight and we will not surrender to tyranny. Period.”
“AS OF THIS DATE, I AM DOWNGRADING THE READINESS LEVEL OF THIS UNIT TO CONDITION YELLOW. ALL MEMBERS MAY STAND DOWN FROM CONDITION RED, HOWEVER, PLEASE MAINTAIN YOUR MOBILITY PREPARATIONS. IF YOU WISH TO GO TO THE RANCH AND JOIN THE PROTEST, PLEASE DO SO, BUT REMEMBER NOT TO ANGER THE BEARS [Capitals in original].”[27]
“I will repeat...if we as Americans lose our rights and sovereignty to the Feds, it’s because we lay down and let them take/steal from us. [#bundyranch is CODE RED for all patriots and militia....get here ASAP if you can, and fire your leader if they suggest ‘stand down’ orders. This IS a revolution here on the ground, and we can only win with large numbers. peacefully. Southern Nevada Militia Leader Col Paris needs to resign or be fired by their members for idiocy”[29]
From the far Right of batshit insane, Springmeier is a Christian lunatic on a mission to expose the "New World Order" by bombing adult video stores. Conspiracy fans troll Springmeier's wiki talk page whining about "bias" until they're told to GTFO. In their attempt to remove anything disparaging(ei: True) about their hero, they risk invoking the Streisand Effect. For more info on this phenomena, scroll down to "FBI probes alleged threat to officer".
Fritz Springmeier's response to this article is quite far from honest. While Springmeier's charge of using and carrying a destructive device was not sent to the jury following a court ruling at trial, Springmeier was nevertheless convicted of one charge of armed bank robbery as well as a charge stemming from use of a firearm during that bank robbery. The jury decided that Springmeier so closely aided and abetted the robbery plot as to be criminally liable for the actions of other robbers, such as Bateman's discharge of a firearm during the robbery, which Springmeier knew was part of the plan.
Testimony from one of Springmeier's co-conspirators heard during trial made clear that Springmeier was indeed involved in both planning and carrying out the robbery--including such aspects as the diversionary use of a destructive device at an adult video store. When one is intimately involved in a conspiracy including the setting of a bomb, it is quite right to be labeled as a bomber, whatever the status of the related criminal charge. The jury, in convicting on the other charges, made it clear that in their view Springmeier was a full part of the bank robbery plot. Springmeier now alleges that the bomb at the adult video store never exploded, despite even Springmeier's supporters such as antisemitic conspiracy theorist Henry Makow previously using the word "exploded" to describe what happened. Needless to say, press accounts of the bombing/bank robbery also describe the bomb as being "detonated". Rather strangely, Springmeier seems to think that by pointing out that the device included a propane tank, the bomb somehow becomes less of a serious matter.
Springmeier's antisemitism is not in any doubt, despite Springmeier's protest to the contrary. Springmeier's Bloodlines of the Illuminati for example writes of the Jewish people in the following way:
"One group that has been very easy for Satan to provoke against Christians is the Jews. Perhaps no group of people has hated Christians with more intensity. One of the first groups that Satan worked at controlling were the Jews."
Although Springmeier afterwards states that the world conspiracy he alleges is essentially Satanic rather than essentially Jewish, this does little to actually moderate his argument, especially as Springmeier goes on to target the "Rothschilds" as the central family of his alleged Satanic conspiracy.
Springmeier was also active in the Christian Patriots Association. I provided a link earlier in this thread about the CPA and its politics--these politics contained pronounced antisemitic and racist aspects. Springmeier's denial is therefore highly unconvincing.
Man tied to extremists reportedly sent letter in ‘97 seeking information on cop
By Jim Redden
The Portland Tribune, Apr 6, 2001
The Portland Police Bureau is investigating a potential threat against one of its officers by a writer with links to the extremist group Army of God.
The writer is Corbett resident Fritz Springmeier, 45. He is tied to Forrest Bateman, 29, a suspected member of the underground movement.
Springmeier and Bateman recently were arrested during a drug investigation conducted by the Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office. Sheriff’s deputies seized marijuana, illegal machine guns, explosives, timing devices and Army of God literature at Bateman’s rural Sandy home.
No weapons or Army of God literature were found at Springmeier’s home, but the two men knew each other, sheriff’s office spokeswoman Angela Blanchard said.
“They are part of the same marijuana grow operation,” Blanchard said. “They’re selling drugs to supplement their income.”
On Nov. 3, 1997, Springmeier wrote to local free-lance journalist John Stevens asking for the home address of Portland police officer Scott Westerman. Stevens was alarmed by the letter and had an associate tell a relative on the police bureau about it. Westerman did not learn about the letter until just a few weeks ago, however.
“That’s a pretty substantial threat,” Westerman said. “I wish I had been told about it at the time.”
According to Westerman, the bureau’s Criminal Intelligence Unit is investigating why he wasn’t told of the threat earlier. Asked about the investigation, CIU head Lt. Randy Kane said he could not comment on it.
Cleared by grand jury
Springmeier’s alleged interest in Westerman stems from a Dec. 14, 1996, shooting case. Corbett resident Patricia Sweany was visiting a friend in Southeast Portland when she called 911 to say she had been poisoned. According to police and press reports, she refused to let paramedics examine her. When Westerman tried to take her to the hospital, she shot a paramedic. Westerman shot and killed Sweany in the ensuing struggle.
The paramedic, Kirk Ream, was not seriously injured.
Portland police detective sergeants Jay Drum and Wayne Svilar investigated the incident. An autopsy conducted by Multnomah County Medical Examiner Larry Lewman found no traces of poison. A Multnomah County grand jury declined to indict Westerman.
Stevens had a reporting business called International News Service when he met Springmeier in the summer of 1997. Springmeier wrote to Stevens a few months later, claiming that Westerman murdered Sweany because she had “lots of hard evidence of judicial corruption in Multnomah County.” The letter asked for Westerman’s home address and sought unspecified “information” on Drum, Svilar and Lewman.
It is unclear how Springmeier knew Sweany. Springmeier has not returned several phone calls to his home from the Portland Tribune.
By coincidence, one of Stevens’ former co-workers was related to Svilar. Stevens had his associate call Svilar and tell him about the letter. Svilar did not ask for a copy of the letter.
“I understand why he didn’t think it was important at the time,” Westerman said. “But given what we know now, I wish I’d known that group was out there.”
Stevens did not think about the letter again until the news broke about the Clackamas County arrests. Bateman was arrested Feb. 9 and is being held on drug and weapons charges. Springmeier was arrested March 1, charged with drug crimes, and released on his own recognizance.
The FBI was brought into the case because of the weapons and Army of God literature. Although the local FBI office declined to comment on its investigation, Blanchard said Bateman is suspected of belonging to the Army of God. He was convicted of racially intimidating a Forest Grove High School student in 1989.
Springmeier is a fundamentalist Christian who has written several books charging that satanic forces are conspiring with corrupt government officials to take over the world. During a radio interview, he described his job as “exposing the New World Order agenda.”
The Army of God “are anti-abortion religious zealots who believe in using explosives to get their point across,” said Gary Perlstein, a nationally recognized terrorism expert who teaches criminal justice classes at Portland State University.
After learning that Springmeier was linked to Bateman, Stevens took the letter to the FBI. A short time later, Westerman received a call about it from the Criminal Intelligence Unit.
He doesn’t blame Stevens for the lack of notice.
“He did the right thing,” Westerman said.
Contact Jim Redden at jredden@portlandtribune.com.
Article archived here:
http://www.portlandtribune.net/news/sto ... ry_id=2757
Grand jury indicts two in 1997 bank robbery
The Oregonian/February 13, 2002
Stuart Tomlinson
Two men with ties to ultra-right-wing groups have been indicted in the violent robbery of a Damascus bank in 1997. To divert attention from the robbery, officials said, the men detonated a bomb at an adult video store six miles away.
A federal grand jury indicted Fritz A. Springmeier, 46, and Forrest E. Bateman, 30, on Jan. 29 on charges of armed bank robbery, use of a firearm in a violent crime and possession of a destructive device in a violent crime.
Springmeier, also known as Victor E. Schoof, also was indicted on suspicion of growing marijuana in his Corbett home after a March 2001 arrest.
Detective Jim Strovink of the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office said the Oct. 8, 1997, robbery of the Damascus branch of Key Bank of Oregon had a "significant impact" on bank employees.
About 1 p.m., a man dressed in battle fatigues approached a teller and demanded money. At one point, he tried to enter the bank's safe. He then fired his gun once into the ceiling.
"This guy had an FBI tag duct-taped to the back of his jacket," Strovink said. "Anytime you have someone come into a bank firing an assault rifle . . . it's the kind of crime that catches the eye of prosecutors and the courts. They could be looking at some very severe penalties."
About 10 minutes before the robbery, which netted the robber $6,000, a bomb was detonated at the Fantasyland Adult Video store, 16014 S.E. 82nd Drive, six miles to the west and about 10 minutes away by car.
Springmeier was arrested Feb. 1 and booked into the Justice Center Jail. He was released following a Feb. 4 hearing before a federal magistrate but was placed under house arrest and will wear an electronic monitoring device. His arraignment is scheduled Friday in U.S. District Court.
The U.S. Marshal's Service is attempting to serve Bateman with the indictment.
The indictment doesn't say which man actually robbed the bank. FBI officials and prosecutors won't discuss the case.
Federal officials have kept both men under scrutiny for their anti-government views and actions for several years.
Springmeier is known for writing books and tracts on the beliefs of the Christian Patriot Association, an ultra-right-wing group based in Boring.
Last March, Clackamas County sheriff's deputies and federal agents arrested Springmeier and his wife, Patricia Springmeier, during a raid at their Corbett home that was part of an ongoing investigation into the Christian Patriot Association.
Police seized marijuana-growing equipment, several weapons and white separatist literature.
Bateman appeared in 1992 on the Oregon State Police's 10-most-wanted list on accusations of felony possession of a firearm and second-degree assault in connection with Skinhead activities. He was convicted in 1989 of racially intimidating a Forest Grove High School student.
Police said Springmeier and Bateman met at a Christian Patriot Association meeting several years ago and that they grew marijuana to supplement their income.
In February 2001, Bateman was one of three people arrested at a house in Sandy where police discovered an arsenal of explosives, machine guns and white supremacist literature.
Police also seized ammonium nitrate and fuel oil -- the same substances used in the 1995 bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building -- and literature affiliated with the Army of God, a white supremacist group connected to the 1997 bombings of an abortion clinic and a gay nightclub in Atlanta.
http://www.eaec.org/expose/FritzSpringmeier2.htm
UPDATE ON FRITZ SPRINGMEIER
John S. Torell
September 15, 2003
On October 8, 1997 the Damascus branch of Key Bank of Oregon was robbed. The robbers fled with $6,000.00 in cash. One of the robbers, later identified as Forrest E. Bateman Jr., used a gun in the robbery, when he fired one shot into the ceiling of the bank to warn the bank clerks that he was willing to use the gun if they did not comply with his demands. Bateman was dressed in army battle fatigues. Ten minutes prior to the robbery, a bomb exploded at the Fantasy Adult Video Store, located six miles west of the bank. No one was injured in the explosion but police investigators believe that the bomb was set off as a diversionary tactic.
Bateman and another man (which I will not identify in order to protect his family, but will give him the fictitious name Roger), had sometime earlier been recruited by Fritz Springmeier 1, and both of them lived on a remote property on and off for eight years which was owned by Roger’s family. Fritz would come often and spend time with the men. According to a family member (which I have spoken to on several occasions), they were preparing for some kind of action against government authorities. Roger, Bateman and Springmeier grew marijuana on the family property (which was not known to the family), and it was sold as a source of income to fund their activities. The family eventually became very afraid of Fritz and forbade him to come back on the property.
Some time after the robbery Roger was arrested and charged with having an illegal shot gun, with a barrel that was not in compliance with the law and also for being part of the marijuana growing. He was promised a lighter sentence if he would testify against Bateman and Springmeier, but the deal was later reneged on by the assistant U.S. Attorney, Frank Noonan. Roger was sentenced to a prison term of 47 months to be served out in federal prison, and was then shipped off to a federal prison in California.
In January 2002 Bateman and Springmeier were indicted by a grand jury on charges of armed bank robbery, the use of a firearm in a violent crime and possession of a destructive device in a violent crime; but they did not go to trial until January 2003.
At this time Roger was brought back to Oregon from the federal prison in California and held in a local county jail. According to family members of Roger, he was very scared and feared for his life and wanted to be returned as soon as possible to the federal prison in California where he felt safer.
Bateman was facing up to 20 years in federal prison when he accepted a plea bargain on January 27, 2003 in the U.S. District Court in Portland, Oregon and plead guilty to the charge of bank robbery. When Batemen was sentenced on April 3, 2003, he was sentenced to 10 to 12 years.
On February 12, 2003 Springmeier was convicted in a jury trial on two counts, while a third was thrown out. Count one charged defendant with armed bank robbery and count two charged defendant with using and carrying a firearm during the armed robbery. Count three which charged defendant with using and carrying a destructive device during a bank robbery, did not go to the jury because the court ruled that the evidence did not support that charge.
The legal counsel for Springmeier filed a motion to have the case thrown out in the Federal District Court of Oregon. This motion was denied by the federal district judge James A. Redden on March 21, 2003. Due to legal maneuvering by Springmeier, the sentencing date was changed several times. Currently Springmeier’s sentencing is scheduled for November 13, 2003.
After having been kept in Oregon for some seven months, first in a county jail and later at the federal prison in Sheridan, Oregon, Roger was shipped back to California to serve out his prison sentence. Because Bateman confessed to the robbery and agreed to testify against Springmeier, Roger was never used as a witness during Springmeier’s trial.
Both Springmeier and Bateman are currently incarcerated at the federal prison in Sheridan, Oregon. Springmeier is held at the maximum security facility. According to an anonymous source in Oregon, Fritz was involved in a fight in the prison and spent some time in solitary confinement.
Investigator reporter John Stevens from the Portland area in Oregon, was able to obtain copies of the search warrants used by the police to search Springmeier and Bateman’s residences in Multnomah and Clackamas Counties. According to Stevens here are some of the items found and confiscated: Machine guns, a modified 20 mm cannon, a 37 mm grenade launcher, hand grenades, part for a .50 caliber machine gun, tri-pod mounted .30 caliber semi-automatic belt fed copy of a Browning 1919 machine gun, dynamite, binary explosives, chemicals to make C-4 explosives, numerous hand guns, rifles, and thousands of rounds of ammunition.
COVER UP - WHY?
When I first was informed that Fritz was under police investigation, I started to search the Portland newspaper, The Oregonian. I was able to find at least two newspaper articles, stating the arrest of Fritz Springmeier and a write up on the court proceedings from January 27, published in the Oregonian on January 29, 2003. The staff writer was Stephen Beaven. Within a few weeks, every article concerning Springmeier vanished from the Oregonian website, and when I tried to find them, the answer came up that there are no articles existing on Springmeier. Next I tried to call the newspaper, and ask for photocopies, willing to pay for them. It was impossible to find anyone working in the archives willing to do the work. 2
During the first court proceedings, Steven Beaven attended representing The Oregonian. As the different legal maneuvers took place in the Federal District Court, the only reporter present for all the hearings was the private investigative reporter John Stevens 3. When I spoke to him, he was at a total loss as to why the media in Portland had made the decision not to inform the public what was happening or to attend the court hearings; after all, this was an armed robbery and a very well known person in the community was accused of having done it.
The only place my researcher in Portland could find a copy of the denial from Judge James A. Redden, was in the law library of the Oregon State University.
As I looked further into the case, I was told there is a possibility that the Federal Government is trying to use Springmeier in the upcoming trials of the alleged abortion bomber Eric Rudolph as a witness against him (Rudolph eluded capture for some five years). The common practice of the federal government is to be able to have a hostile witness testify against a defendant, and to offer a reduced sentence for the witness. While negotiations are going on, there is usually a news media blackout. Rudolph and Springmeier are both suspected to be members of the Army of God (AOG).
According to the items listed in the search warrants obtained by John Stevens, the following material was found in Bateman’s residence: Signs, banners, books, literature, computer records and handwritten material that identified Bateman as a member of the "Army of God." There were books describing how to make explosives, create poisonous gases, culture diseases, as well as books on sniper training and freedom fighting. There was also a copy of the Army of God operations manual.
Furthermore, ceramic body armor with an Army of God (AOG) patch on the left shoulder was found along with "Bull Run Militia" emblems, extensive military gear, fake identification, plans and diagrams of operational plans which included the building of an underground command center, an escape tunnel and a bunker in the woods.
Meanwhile supporters of Springmeier are claiming that Fritz was "framed" by the Federal Government and that he is innocent. There are some website’s claiming his innocence and some of them are trying to raise money so that Fritz can hire attorneys and continue the appeal process.
After talking with a number of people who have known Fritz for some years, and particularly to the family of Roger, I am convinced that Fritz participated and led the bank robbery, that he is a member of the Army of God, and that this group is armed and dangerous to anyone opposing them. Hiding behind the cloak of being Christians, they are bringing shame to the body of Christ.
Pastor Jeff Weakley of God’s Remnant Church (GRC) is a part of the Identity Movement 4, which is also connected with the Christian Patriot Association (CPA). Weakley in an interview with John Stevens in 1997 told how the Army of God (AOG) is set up, and he specifically warned that the members are very dangerous, well armed, committed and invisible. Weakley further revealed that Springmeier may be the leader and brain behind Army of God cells and their activities. In a private letter from Springmeier to John Stevens in 1997, Springmeier outlined his activities and he ended the letter, saying "PLEASE DESTROY THIS LETTER AFTER YOU READ IT, OUR EXISTENCE IS UNKNOWN."
For a background study on Fritz Springmeier, see our article on Fritz Springmeier - Another Human Tragedy.
1. Due to death threats and promises of harm, we cannot name some of our sources.
2. During the time period of March thru June 2003 there were no articles on Fritz Springmeier available from The Oregonian newspaper.
3. For a deeper study on the Identity Movement, see The Dove, Spring/Summer 1996, pages 20-36 (available for $2.00 postage paid); see our article on the Identity Movement Cult.
4. John Stevens is an independent investigative reporter who has written some articles used by the Oregon Spotlight. For a complete report of Stevens’ investigation of the Springmeier case, you may contact him at ins@qcsn.com, call him at (503) 256-1656, or visit the Oregonian Spotlight website. http://oregonspotlight.org/news.htm
8bitagent » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:03 pm wrote:Maybe Peter Levenda? Tho I have not read his works yet
8bitagent » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:03 pm wrote:So many of the original 80s/90s "elites are satanic" meme writers turned out to be holocaust deniers/white nationalist linked. Or just whackadoos. Ted Gundersen wasnt a racist, and neither was William Cooper. But sometimes people just seemed off their rocker.
American Dream » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:23 pm wrote:8bitagent » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:03 pm wrote:So many of the original 80s/90s "elites are satanic" meme writers turned out to be holocaust deniers/white nationalist linked. Or just whackadoos. Ted Gundersen wasnt a racist, and neither was William Cooper. But sometimes people just seemed off their rocker.
Springmeier's Patriot buddy Eric Rudolph didn't attack jews, dark skinned people or (recent) immigrants, as far as I know. He did however bomb abortion clinics and gay bars. This kind of violence is just as reprehensible. As to conspiracy authors in league with this shit, I quote Ishmael Reed: "Writin' is fightin'".
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