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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby American Dream » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:45 pm

http://www.ww4report.com/node/13493

Fascist pseudo-anti-fascism advances in Russia

Submitted by Bill Weinberg on Mon, 09/01/2014

We have been noting, with growing unease, a phenomenon we call the Paradoxical Anti-Fascist Rhetoric of Contemporary Crypto-Fascism—witnessed both in the stateside far right Hitler-baiting Obama, and (more disturbingly) in the increasingly fascistic Vladimir Putin Nazi-baiting the Ukrainians. Now, the websites Human Rights in Ukraine and Kyiv Post report on a far-right summit just held at Yalta (yes, in recently annexed Crimea, and the site of an Allied summit in World War II), attended by representatives of such unsavory entities as Hungary's Jobbik party, Belgium's Parti Communautaire National-Européen, and the British National Party—and overseen by Sergei Glazyev, a senior adviser to Putin, and Maxim Shevchenko, a member of Putin's human rights council (sic!). Predictably, this assemblage of neo-fascists discussed forming an "Anti-fascist Council" to oppose the "fascist junta in Kiev." Many of the Russian militants in attendance are said to have been followers of the Eurasia Party of Alexander Dugin—seemingly a key ideologue of Putin's Eurasian Union project.

We are heartened to note that simultaneously, as Sweden's neo-fascist Party of the Swedes(formerly the more honestly named National Socialist Front, with an agenda of halting immigraiton to preserve the country's "Western genetic and cultural heritage") took to the streets of Stockholm, the 150 or so of them were massively outnumbered by thousands of anti-fascist counter-protesters. There were clashes with police who tried to separate the two groups. (AP, Aug. 30)

But with much of the European and American "left" stupidly rallying around Putin and buying his line that the Ukrainians are neo-Nazis, we fear that some of the once stalwart antifas may become confused in their analysis. It isn't that there isn't a fascist element emerging in Ukraine. Of course there is. It's that there is also a fascist element emerging in Russia, around the ultra-nationalist and authoritarian cult of Putin. Supporting Putin in the name of "anti-fascism" is despairingly stupid—and all the more so after this Yalta confab.

Meanwhile, Euromaidan Press reports that a Russian Anti-War Committee has been formed to oppose Putin's invasion of Ukraine. The founding statement demands Putin's impeachment and calls on Russians to "Express their strong rejection of this fratricidal war with acts of peaceful civil disobedience." The mothers of soldiers mobilized to Ukraine have formed a Сommittee of Soldiers' Mothers and released a video demanding that Russian officials (who still deny Russian incursions into Ukraine) bring back their children alive.

We have noted the emergence of an anti-war opposition in Russia before—and that being an anti-war protester in Russia requires far more courage than in the West. We again insist:These are the people in Russia that we as progressives in the West should be supporting—not the war criminal Putin.
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby slimmouse » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:09 pm

I guess it doesnt really matter all that much who's doing the propagandising on either side, as long as people have been indoctrinated suffiiciently enough, in their own particular ethnic, financial, religous, political cause to fall for this BS.

Sufficiently enough to butcher each other at the whim of the few psycopaths who rule us.

We all inherantly know what is right and wrong. The problem is that the bullshit merchants can make us follow the bullshit.

Theres nothing too deep in that, believe me.

The only good news is that its all a great big fucking illusion anyway. A learning curve if you like. Each and every fragment of creation is in this for the long haul.

Always be true to yourself.
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:33 pm

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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby American Dream » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:03 am

21 August 2014

(Pro-)Russian extremists in 2006 and 2014: the Dugin Connection

In August 2006, Russian fascist Aleksandr Dugin and his Eurasian Youth Union (Евразийский союз молодежи, ESM) organised a summer camp where ultranationalist activists were further indoctrinated and trained to fight against democratic movements in neighbouring independent states. Looking at the pictures from that camp, I have identified at least five people who, in 2014, were engaged in the terrorist activities of (pro-)Russian extremists in Eastern Ukraine.

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Andrey Purgin in the ESM camp, 2006


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Andrey Purgin, 2014

Andrey Purgin, first "Prime Minister" of the "Donetsk People's Republic". In 2006, he was a leader of the organisation "Donetsk Republic".


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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby American Dream » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:31 am

More on the network:

European extreme right and Russian imperialism

European extreme right and Russian imperialism: Understanding the 50 shades of brown

French and Austrian radical right-wing leaders have recently declared that the EU should not interefere in Ukraine's national sovereignty. Some may consider these statements as a spit in the face of the Ukrainian radical right-wing Svoboda party, which today supports Ukraine's European integration, but in fact these statements reveal a bigger picture.

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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:28 am

American Dream » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:03 pm wrote:
21 August 2014

(Pro-)Russian extremists in 2006 and 2014: the Dugin Connection

In August 2006, Russian fascist Aleksandr Dugin and his Eurasian Youth Union (Евразийский союз молодежи, ESM) organised a summer camp where ultranationalist activists were further indoctrinated and trained to fight against democratic movements in neighbouring independent states. Looking at the pictures from that camp, I have identified at least five people who, in 2014, were engaged in the terrorist activities of (pro-)Russian extremists in Eastern Ukraine.

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Andrey Purgin in the ESM camp, 2006


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Andrey Purgin, 2014

Andrey Purgin, first "Prime Minister" of the "Donetsk People's Republic". In 2006, he was a leader of the organisation "Donetsk Republic".


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In summary, more posts from George Soros and The Open Society funded think tanks and wonks, with my questions about the source of these articles left unanswered.

Interesting that these Globalist posts are interleaved between lots of libcom and "antifa" postings, especially as The Open Society seems to be one of the main funders of academic "anti fascist researchers".

I anticipate that AD's response to this will be either to:
a) Ignore it and continue posting a Globalist / Anarchist layer cake
or
b) Reframe it bogusly as representing committed support for Putin and try to shoehorn it into "the West AND Putin are both bad" frame, while ignoring one's *own* sources.
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:39 am

it's an invasion

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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby American Dream » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:44 am

Make your case as clearly and comprehensively as you can, and I will respond, Searcher. What I've seen from you and the others so far is incredibly sketchy and weak.

After that, we will get to the content of the stated concerns which you are effectively avoiding through the usage of such pathetic devices...
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby coffin_dodger » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:33 am

American Dream wrote:What I've seen from you and the others so far is incredibly sketchy and weak.


The 'Others'? Branded as a group of what sort of 'others', exactly, AD?

LOL! You are truly a broken record, AD - how do you keep it going? The same thing, over and over and again, never taking in new developments or considerations, single-mindedly regurgitating the same system-sustaining claptrap and propoganda (i.e. anyone who challenges the West is anti-semetic, all other Sovereign nations are just as evil as the West is, there are haters around every corner, etc etc). You sound just like John Kerry or any other Western Foreign secretary.

You are the ultimate System-Guy, poorly disguised as a Hope & Change warrior. LOL!

I hope the future you're working so hard to maintain and enforce fails miserably, AD.
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby American Dream » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:38 am

coffin_dodger » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:33 am wrote: The same thing, over and over and again, never taking in new developments or considerations, single-mindedly regurgitating the same system-sustaining claptrap and propoganda (i.e. anyone who challenges the West is anti-semetic, all other Sovereign nations are just as evil as the West is, there are haters around every corner, etc etc). You sound just like John Kerry or any other Western Foreign secretary.


It's like you can't even read- is that intentional?
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:40 am

I must apologize to all the "others" here....I know I am included in that sub group but I am sure that they all are embarrassed...thanks BPH for letting the cat out of the bag.... to be in a club that has me for a member :P


don't throw me out you "others" ...I really really love you guys :hug1: :lovehearts:

oh and coffin_dodger ...that's Taupe and Change warrior


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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby coffin_dodger » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:49 am

American Dream wrote:It's like you can't even read- is that intentional?


LOL! He thinks I'm an agent for some sinister cause or something! Classic!

Your suspicious mind (of anything that doesn't tally with your own, extraordinarily-focused, narrowed-to-a-pinpoint perception) coupled with an intransigence forged from a belief of absolute moral high ground, is bordering on becoming a cliche. Actually, the line may have been crossed.

Carry on, AD. I love reading your stuff because it gives me a heads-up on what the msm will be selling to us at some point in the future. :thumbsup
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby American Dream » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:14 pm

coffin_dodger » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:49 am wrote:
American Dream wrote:It's like you can't even read- is that intentional?


LOL! He thinks I'm an agent for some sinister cause or something! Classic!


Your thinking is so incredibly off that I can only conclude that you are impaired and/or dissembling. Please note that this does not lead to working for "some sinister cause", because most sinister causes that I know of would want to employ a different caliber of person as their agent...
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby solace » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:34 pm

American Dream » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:14 pm wrote:
coffin_dodger » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:49 am wrote:
American Dream wrote:It's like you can't even read- is that intentional?


LOL! He thinks I'm an agent for some sinister cause or something! Classic!


Your thinking is so incredibly off that I can only conclude that you are impaired and/or dissembling. Please note that this does not lead to working for "some sinister cause", because most sinister causes that I know of would want to employ a different caliber of person as their agent...


I think this little gem tells you all you need to know about this guy- "anyone who challenges the West is anti-semetic,"
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Re: Global Research, Chossudovsky, Russia, Propaganda

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:55 pm

45 minutes....you're slackin' off..aren't you afraid you'll lose your badge?

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