stickdog99 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:56 am wrote:
Anyone who wants vaccines can have them. Just don't take away the basic human rights and citizen privileges of those who do not.choose to vaccinate themselves and/or their children.
As for alternatives to vaccines, I would suggest universal healthcare coverage. good nutrition including a wide range of colors of organic fruits and vegetables, healthy lifestyles, exercise, sunlight in moderation, and healing and immune system boosting plants and herbs.
I agree that all the things you list as alternatives are good things, but not as alternatives for vaccines.
Those things at best decrease your chances of getting a disease, but they're in no way a guarantee, and the fact of the matter is that a whole lot of people don't do those things (unless you want to make them mandatory
As for people choosing not to vaccinate themselves and their kids: In an ideal world yes, but we don't live there. The reason various places started with a mandatory regimen is that too many people choose not to vaccinate which in turn increases the chance of outbreaks, as seen in Disney World for instance.
To gain herd immunity and remove the risk of major outbreaks you need a certain number of people vaccinated, simple as that. If they won't do it voluntarily then they'll have to do it involuntarily (I'm thinking of the standard package of infectious childhood diseases here, mumps, measles etc., not gardasil which I don't have a problem with making voluntary). I see it the same way as having a drivers license not being voluntary if you want to drive a car. It's there to protect other people from you. It's not perfect, but it increases the odds of you or other people not dying horribly.
The risk of something bad happening with vaccines is tiny compared to the risks without them, plus, as I've repeated endlessly, there are several people who for various reasons can't get vaccinated because their immune system is compromised (like cancer patients). By not vaccinating you're endangering those people's lives, which tbh I think is an extremely selfish thing to do.
I wouldn't have a problem with not vaccinating if all it did was affect you and no one else, but that's not how it works. It's other people who suffer when you send your germ bomb offspring to school.
What is going on here? I am talking to the guy that a while back indicated that people that believe food can cure medicine are crazy, quacks, stupid, or which ever one of your words you used. I don't remember exactly. I believe I sited scurvy and vitamin c as an example for you and you never replied back to that I don't think.
And now you are telling me your doctor might prescribe fruit or a trip to the gym? What gives here? If you live in a place where food and nutrition are recognized as medicine and can cure disease why were you being derogatory against people that believe food and nutrition can cure disease? What gives? Something strange about that, real strange.
Yes, something strange: backtoiam's reading comprehension, as usual. I never said fruit and a trip to the gym can cure disease, but it can help if you just have lousy health (or scurvy).
Obviously the doctor isn't going to prescribe fruit for cancer because that would be fucking stupid (unless you live on backtoiam's planet).
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