Vaccine - Autism link

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Postby Sounder » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:43 pm

Yes well, excuse me for not going with the slander, innuendo and social compliance enforcement going on here. My opinions are based on observation of pharmaceutical corporate profit models that make them the highest ROI industry out there. People like that will double the amount of aluminum adjuvant in HPV vaccine to achieve longevity for immune response and a salable product. They do not care about health and they have plenty of money to influence the FDA and many vested and corrupted interests.

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The lawsuit, filed by Children’s Health Defense (CHD) attorney, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. on behalf of Informed Consent Action Network(ICAN), a vaccine safety advocacy group, sought all clinical trial data used by FDA to approve influenza vaccines for pregnant women. The FDA’s terse reply: “We have no records responsive to your requests.”

The manufacturers of flu and Tdap vaccines warn against their use for pregnant mothers since their safety has never been established. Package inserts state that it is “not known” whether the vaccines “will harm an unborn baby” and there are “insufficient data” on use in pregnant women to inform vaccine-associated risks. FDA regulations strictly prohibit pharmaceutical companies from marketing products for “off-license” uses. Noncompliant companies are routinely prosecuted criminally and civilly, paying billions in lawsuits and settlements.

The CDC nevertheless has actively recommended influenza vaccination during any trimester of pregnancy since 2004 and has told pregnant women to get Tdap shots (for tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis) since 2011. The FDA is responsible for vaccine safety and licensing, but, in the just-released court documents, it admits that it has no safety data to back up the pregnancy recommendations. FDA’s website states that it has never formally approved any vaccines “specifically for use during pregnancy to protect the infant.”
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Re: Vaccine - Autism link

Postby liminalOyster » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:04 pm

SLAD, I love you but I LOL-ed at this one. Don't ever change.

Sidenote that it's preposterous to say Wakefiled "started" the Anti-Vaxx movement. The roots of that movement pretty much emerge with vaccines themselves and some kind of primal zoonotic gross out factor, IIUC.


seemslikeadream » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:59 pm wrote:
Caroline Orr
14th February 2019

The Deadly Anti-Vaxxer Movement: Started in Britain, Co-opted by Trump, Boosted by Putin

Supporters of Dr Andrew Wakefield, the doctor at the centre of the MMR scandal, outside the GMC in London.
As Washington State declares a state of emergency over measles, populist misinformation over vaccination is putting children’s lives at risk

The modern anti-vaccination movement can be traced back to a now-retracted fraudulent study published by British doctor Andrew Wakefield in 1998.

The paper, which claimed to show a link between the MMR (Measles/Mumps/Rubella) vaccine and autism, was quickly refuted, then retracted, and eventually found to be be the product of falsified data.

The incident resulted in Wakefield being stripped of his medical license, as well as his credibility. But, while Wakefield is now considered a pariah in the field of medicine, he has found a kindred spirit in none other than Donald Trump.

Trump has a very public history of espousing anti-vaccination beliefs and promoting conspiracy theories about vaccines and autism. He hasn’t used the White House to push these views, but he has frequently taken to Twitter to spread vaccine-related misinformation.


On more than 20 occasions, Trump has tweeted falsehoods claiming that there is a link between vaccination and autism (there’s not). He has never retracted those false claims, nor addressed them publicly since taking office.

In the summer of 2016, Trump met with Wakefield and other prominent ‘leaders’ of the anti-vaccination movement, and expressed interest in meeting with anti-vaccine activists in the future. Wakefield even got an invitation to Trump’s inaugural ball, which he accepted.

Trump’s meeting with Wakefield energised the anti-vaccine movement, which viewed then-candidate Trump as a vessel to bring their anti-science crusade into the White House.

Right-wing populists like Trump are a natural ally of anti-science crusades. Both movements thrive on values such as contempt for the elite establishment and antagonism toward intellectuals.

In addition to sowing division, the promulgation of conspiracy theories and disinformation about vaccines appears to have a broader goal: undermining trust in democratic institutions, shared knowledge, and, ultimately, the notion of truth altogether.
And just like many populist movements have received support from Russia in recent years, so, too, has the anti-vaccine movement.

The Russian Troll Farm Steps In

At the same time that Trump was giving new life to the anti-vaccine movement, the Kremlin was actively promoting anti-vaccine conspiracy theories on social media.

According to a 2018 study published in the American Journal of Public Health, Russia’s Internet Research Agency (commonly referred to as the “troll factory”) was involved in pushing conspiracy theories and disinformation about vaccines before and during the 2016 presidential campaign.

The study, which examined nearly 1.8 million tweets posted between July 2014 and September 2017, found that accounts linked to the Internet Research Agency were significantly more likely to tweet about vaccination than the average user and, when they did, they used the same polarising tactics that were deployed to sow division during the election.

Right-wing populists like Trump are a natural ally of anti-science crusades. Both movements thrive on values such as contempt for the elite establishment and antagonism toward intellectuals.
“Content from these sources gives equal attention to pro- and anti-vaccination arguments,” the study reported. “This is consistent with a strategy of promoting discord across a range of controversial topics – a known tactic employed by Russian troll accounts.”

Many of the tweets sent by Russian accounts linked vaccination to controversial issues in American society, such as racial and socioeconomic inequalities. while others called into question the legitimacy of the U.S. government.

What is Russia Doing Meddling in Medicine?

These are the same tactics Russia used in 2016, and continued to use throughout 2018, to achieve its goals of dividing US society, sowing distrust, and, more broadly, undermining faith in democratic institutions, including medical and scientific establishments.

Trump has proven to be the best ally the Kremlin could imagine.
As the Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats stated in August 2018: “[W]e continue to see a pervasive messaging campaign by Russia to try to weaken and divide the United States.”

The American public has proven to be a receptive audience for anti-vaccine messages and the consequences have been dire. Measles has been on the rise in recent years, and 2019 is on pace to be among the worst years in the last decade. From January 1 to February 7, more than 100 cases were reported in 10 states.

In late January, Washington Governor Jay Inslee declared a state of emergency after 35 cases of measles were confirmed in a single county. According to the State Department of Health, there are now at least 54 cases of the disease, all but one of which were located in Clark County, Washington, where nearly a quarter of school-aged children have not received the MMR vaccine.

In addition to sowing division, the promulgation of conspiracy theories and disinformation about vaccines appears to have a broader goal: undermining trust in democratic institutions, shared knowledge, and, ultimately, the notion of truth altogether.

If that’s the goal, Trump has proven to be the best ally the Kremlin could imagine, even at the expense of public health, well-being, and perhaps democracy. ... -by-putin/

Darla Shine, Wife of Top Trump Official Bill Shine, Goes on Pro-Measles, Anti-Vax Rant
‘Bring back our #ChildhoodDiseases,’ wrote the former Fox News executive’s wife, ‘they keep you healthy & fight cancer.’ Surprise: she’s dangerously wrong.

Tanya Basu
02.13.19 12:16 PM ET

The wife of a top Trump White House official went on an unhinged anti-vaccination Twitter rant Wednesday morning, wrongly suggesting that the deadly measles virus could be beneficial.

Darla Shine, a former TV producer, is the wife of Bill Shine, a former Fox News executive and current White House deputy chief of staff for communications. Her rant was sparked by a CNN segment on the measles outbreak in Washington and Oregon, which has thus far seen more than 50 unvaccinated individuals contracting the disease—in addition to more than 200 cases in New York.

“Here we go LOL #measlesoutbreak on #CNN,” she wrote in response to the segment. “#Fake #Hysteria.”

“The entire Baby Boom population alive today had the #Measles as kids,” she bizarrely added. “Bring back our #ChildhoodDiseases they keep you healthy & fight cancer.”

The MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) vaccine has been repeatedly proven by scientific circles to be safe and effective against measles, which causes painful rashes that can potentially affect organs and lead to death, particularly among those whose immune systems are compromised.

Nevertheless, Shine doubled down on her anti-vaccination claim, suggesting that her having measles was similar to a child getting chicken pox and gaining lifelong immunity. “I had the #Measles #Mumps #ChickenPox as a child and so did every kid I knew,” she wrote. “Sadly my kids had #MMR so they will never have the life long natural immunity I have. Come breathe on me!”

Shine is correct that having measles as a child protected her from getting the disease again, but she’s wrong that her kids having received the MMR vaccine is “sad.”

Because the disease was eradicated in the U.S. in the early 1990s, people born after that time do not have the immunity to fight the disease. Shine’s children were not only protected from potential death, but also were able to protect others from contracting the disease through herd immunity—or the idea that since most people in a population had the vaccine, they were protected as a “herd.”

In fact, most measles-related deaths are in children under the age of 5 and adults over the age of 30 who are unvaccinated. Measles grants immunity after the disease has passed but can cause serious lifelong issues like blindness, encephalitis (brain swelling), and severe respiratory issues that can lead to pneumonia and death.

After several more tweets accusing her critics of being “trolls” or “Democrat Russian bots,” Shine went so far as to suggest that the measles virus kills cancer.

Shine’s claim that having measles will stave off cancer is completely wrong.

The research she cited was a clinical experiment in which six myeloma patients were given a “concentrated, lab-engineered measles virus,” according to a 2014 story from CNN. In basic terms, the measles virus linked cancer cells together, then exploded, mirroring what the immune system should do but wasn’t done for a cancer patient. The experiment was successful in sending one patient to remission, but the other patients didn’t respond.

The irony? The virus that was given as part of the therapy was structured similarly to a measles vaccine.

Shine’s comments invited immediate scorn from prominent media figures, who noted that a top White House official’s wife was actively spreading anti-vaccination conspiracy theories.

Shine’s comments come at a critical time in the vaccine debate. Just last week, anti-vaxxer Robert F. Kennedy Jr.—nephew of President John F. Kennedy—testified at a Washington state hearing against a bill that would require all entering kindergartners and/or daycare kids to get vaccinated.

Measles Outbreak in NY Orthodox Jewish Areas Hits 200 Cases

Molly C. Enking

This is not the first time Darla Shine has started a national controversy via her social-media accounts. Shortly after her husband was announced in his new Trump role, a bevy of Darla’s racist, sexist, transphobic, or conspiratorial Twitter posts were unearthed.
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Re: Vaccine - Autism link

Postby DrEvil » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:11 pm

@Sounder: Tell you what. I will stop ranting about anti-vaxxers if anti-vaxxers stop spreading preventable diseases.

Also, thank you for demonstrating exactly what I was talking about in my previous post.
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Re: Vaccine - Autism link

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:42 pm

liminalOyster » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:04 pm wrote:SLAD, I love you but I LOL-ed at this one. Don't ever change.

Sidenote that it's preposterous to say Wakefiled "started" the Anti-Vaxx movement. The roots of that movement pretty much emerge with vaccines themselves and some kind of primal zoonotic gross out factor, IIUC.

The modern anti-vaccination movement

like 1998 not 1804


British Anti-Vaccine Leagues
• 1830- Born in Manchester, England
• Influenced by pacifism, temperance and
utopian movements
• 1850’s- Journeyed to America - Underground Railroad
• 1860’s- Returned to England- founded or contributed to causes supporting the Blind, RSPCA, prevention of child cruelty
• 1869- Committed to Anti-Vaccine Movement
• 1880- Formed London Society for the Abolition of Compulsory Vaccination ... n-Terk.pdf

Some people will be surprised to learn that it didn’t start with Bob Sears, or Jenny McCarthy, or even with Andy Wakefield.

The anti-vaccine movement started even before we started giving vaccines ... d-history/
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Postby Cordelia » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:35 am

Pinterest is blocking search results about vaccines to protect users from misinformation

By Taylor Telford

February 21

As social media companies wrestle with how to police dangerous health misinformation on their platforms, Pinterest has taken an extreme approach: blocking search results related to vaccinations, whether the results are medically accurate or not.

The San Francisco-based company told the Wall Street Journal it has been suppressing search results on the topic since December and will continue to do so until it finds a reliable solution to protect Pinterest users from harmful and misleading content. Pinterest searches about vaccines had been dominated by results that bucked long-standing scientific research and guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention by claiming vaccinations were hazardous. Users of the photo-sharing site can still pin this kind of material to their personal boards, but it won’t surface in searches.

"It’s better not to serve those results than to lead people down what is like a recommendation rabbit hole,” Ifeoma Ozoma, Pinterest’s public policy and social impact manager, told the Wall Street Journal this week.

The World Health Organization recently named “vaccine hesitancy” as one of the biggest global health threats of 2019. The designation comes as the United States grapples with a sudden resurgence of measles, a disease that was declared eliminated in 2000 by the CDC as a result of extensive use of the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. More than 100 cases have cropped up since the beginning of the year — more cases than were reported in the United States in all of 2016.

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Further limiting access to information for our own "good".
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Postby DrEvil » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:42 pm


A) Youtube is also removing ads from anti-vax videos. I think that's great (starve the beast), although I suspect some people here might disagree. :)

B) Freedom of speech includes freedom of association. You can't force someone to host speech they disagree with. This is no different than a newspaper editor declining to print a reader submission or a publisher turning down your manuscript.
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Postby Cordelia » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:51 am


fwiw, it will be interesting to see how this map looks in coming months as legislatures change laws; (once) very liberal Washington State, for instance:

State Senate panel advances bill limiting vaccine exemptions

By RACHEL LA CORTE February 22, 2019

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — A Washington state Senate committee advanced a measure Friday that would do away with the option for parents to claim a personal or philosophical exemption for their children’s school vaccinations.

The Senate Health and Long Term Care Committee passed the measure on a 7-4 party line vote a day after health officials identified a new case of measles in the state.

A House committee approved a more limited bill a week ago that would only remove the philosophical exemption for the combined measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. Both bills could be up for floor votes in their respective chambers in the coming weeks.

“It’s unclear to some of us that the current system with the exemptions that we have has led to a material and negative change in diseases that can be prevented by vaccines,” Republican Sen. Steve O’Ban said before casting a ‘no’ vote. ”

Democratic Sen. Annette Cleveland, the committee’s chairwoman, disagreed.

“The proof is actually in the fact that we no longer have eradication of these diseases,” she said.

The legislation comes amid an outbreak that has sickened 65 people in Washington state, with all but one of the cases in Clark County, just north of Portland, Oregon. Clark County Public Health identified a new case Thursday and is currently investigating two suspected cases. The Portland metropolitan area has seen four cases related to the outbreak in southwestern Washington.

Washington currently allows vaccination exemptions for children at public or private schools or licensed day-care centers based on medical, religious and personal or philosophical beliefs. Unless an exemption is claimed, a child is required to be vaccinated against or show proof of acquired immunity for nearly a dozen diseases — including polio, whooping cough and mumps — before they can attend school or a child care center.

Four percent of Washington secondary school students have non-medical vaccine exemptions, the state Department of Health said. Of those, 3.7 percent of the exemptions are personal, and the rest are religious.

In Clark County, 6.7 percent of kindergartners had a non-medical exemption for the 2017-18 school year, health officials said.

Washington is among 17 states, including Oregon, that allow some type of non-medical vaccine exemption for “personal, moral or other beliefs,” according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

California removed personal belief vaccine exemptions for children in public and private schools in 2015 after a measles outbreak linked to Disneyland sickened 147 people and spread across the U.S. and into Canada. Vermont also abandoned its personal exemption in 2015.
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Statement on Federal Vaccine Mandates

To: Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee, House Energy and Commerce Committee

Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions

Re: Statement federal vaccine mandates

Feb. 26, 2019

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) strongly opposes federal interference in medical decisions, including mandated vaccines. After being fully informed of the risks and benefits of a medical procedure, patients have the right to reject or accept that procedure. The regulation of medical practice is a state function, not a federal one. Governmental preemption of patients’ or parents’ decisions about accepting drugs or other medical interventions is a serious intrusion into individual liberty, autonomy, and parental decisions about child-rearing.

A public health threat is the rationale for the policy on mandatory vaccines. But how much of a threat is required to justify forcing people to accept government-imposed risks? Regulators may intervene to protect the public against a one-in-one million risk of a threat such as cancer from an involuntary exposure to a toxin, or-one-in 100,000 risk from a voluntary (e.g. occupational) exposure. What is the risk of death, cancer, or crippling complication from a vaccine? There are no rigorous safety studies of sufficient power to rule out a much lower risk of complications, even one in 10,000, for vaccines. Such studies would require an adequate number of subjects, a long duration (years, not days), an unvaccinated control group (“placebo” must be truly inactive such as saline, not the adjuvant or everything-but-the-intended-antigen), and consideration of all adverse health events (including neurodevelopment disorders).

Vaccines are necessarily risky, as recognized by the U.S. Supreme Court and by Congress. The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program has paid some $4 billion in damages, and high hurdles must be surmounted to collect compensation. The damage may be so devastating that most people would prefer restored function to a multimillion-dollar damage award.

The smallpox vaccine is so dangerous that you can’t get it now, despite the weaponization of smallpox. Rabies vaccine is given only after a suspected exposure or to high-risk persons such as veterinarians. The whole-cell pertussis vaccine was withdrawn from the U.S. market, a decade later than from the Japanese market, because of reports of severe permanent brain damage. The acellular vaccine that replaced it is evidently safer, though somewhat less effective.

The risk: benefit ratio varies with the frequency and severity of disease, vaccine safety, and individual patient factors. These must be evaluated by patient and physician, not imposed by a government agency.

Measles is the much-publicized threat used to push for mandates, and is probably the worst threat among the vaccine-preventable illnesses because it is so highly contagious. There are occasional outbreaks, generally starting with an infected individual coming from somewhere outside the U.S. The majority, but by no means all the people who catch the measles have not been vaccinated. Almost all make a full recovery, with robust, life-long immunity. The last measles death in the U.S. occurred in 2015, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Are potential measles complications including death in persons who cannot be vaccinated due to immune deficiency a justification for revoking the rights of all Americans and establishing a precedent for still greater restrictions on our right to give—or withhold—consent to medical interventions? Clearly not.

Many serious complications have followed MMR vaccination, and are listed in the manufacturers’ package insert, though a causal relationship may not have been proved. According to a 2012 report by the Cochrane Collaboration, “The design and reporting of safety outcomes in MMR vaccine studies, both pre- and post-marketing, are largely inadequate” (cited by the National Vaccine Information Center).

Mandate advocates often assert a need for a 95% immunization rate to achieve herd immunity. However, Mary Holland and Chase Zachary of NYU School of Law argue, in the Oregon Law Review, that because complete herd immunity and measles eradication are unachievable, the better goal is for herd effect and disease control. The best outcome would result, they argue, from informed consent, more open communication, and market-based approaches.

Even disregarding adverse vaccine effects, the results of near-universal vaccination have not been completely positive. Measles, when it does occur, is four to five times worse than in pre-vaccination times, according to Lancet Infectious Diseases, because of the changed age distribution: more adults, whose vaccine-based immunity waned, and more infants, who no longer receive passive immunity from their naturally immune mother to protect them during their most vulnerable period.

Measles is a vexing problem, and more complete, forced vaccination will likely not solve it. Better public health measures—earlier detection, contact tracing, and isolation; a more effective, safer vaccine; or an effective treatment are all needed. Meanwhile, those who choose not to vaccinate now might do so in an outbreak, or they can be isolated. Immunosuppressed patients might choose isolation in any event because vaccinated people can also possibly transmit measles even if not sick themselves.

Issues that Congress must consider:

Manufacturers are virtually immune from product liability, so the incentive to develop safer products is much diminished. Manufacturers may even refuse to make available a product believed to be safer, such as monovalent measles vaccine in preference to MMR (measles-mumps-rubella). Consumer refusal is the only incentive to do better.
There are enormous conflicts of interest involving lucrative relationships with vaccine purveyors.
Research into possible vaccine adverse effects is being quashed, as is dissent by professionals.
There are many theoretical mechanisms for adverse effects from vaccines, especially in children with developing brains and immune systems. Note the devastating effects of Zika or rubella virus on developing humans, even though adults may have mild or asymptomatic infections. Many vaccines contain live viruses intended to cause a mild infection. Children’s brains are developing rapidly—any interference with the complex developmental symphony could be ruinous.
Vaccines are neither 100% safe nor 100% effective. Nor are they the only available means to control the spread of disease.

AAPS believes that liberty rights are unalienable. Patients and parents have the right to refuse vaccination, although potentially contagious persons can be restricted in their movements (e.g. as with Ebola), as needed to protect others against a clear and present danger. Unvaccinated persons with no exposure to a disease and no evidence of a disease are not a clear or present danger.

AAPS represents thousands of physicians in all specialties nationwide. It was founded in 1943 to protect private medicine and the patient-physician relationship.

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Postby liminalOyster » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:31 pm

Agent Orange Cooper » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:03 pm wrote: ... d_Surgeons ... e-m-orient

SourceWatch wrote:]Mother Jones, discussing AAPS's journal (called the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons), writes,

The publication's archives present a kind of alternate-universe scientific world, in which abortion causes breast cancer and vaccines cause autism, but HIV does not cause AIDS. Cutting carbon emissions represents a grave threat to global health (because environmental regulation would make people poorer and, consequently, sicker) ... The organization opposes some of the most accepted practices in health care, including mandatory vaccine regulations. Peer review, a long-standing hospital practice that helps doctors learn from and prevent errors, is viewed as the source of great injustice by AAPS, which fights attempts to micromanage doctors with such bureaucratic nuisances as medical evidence about what works and what doesn't. Computers, too, are an ominous threat. The organization has resisted the use of electronic medical records—which, naturally, represents an attempt by the government to acquire masses of private information about American citizens. (AAPS' executive director claims to keep all her patient notes in longhand.)[9]
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:25 pm

Measles, Mumps, Rubella Vaccination and Autism: A Nationwide Cohort Study ... hort-study

It’s old news that vaccines don’t cause autism. But a major new study aims to refute skeptics again

Helen Branswell

A nurse prepares an injection of the MMR vaccine. GEOFF CADDICK/AFP/Getty Images
A massive new study from Denmark found no association between being vaccinated against measles, mumps, and rubella and developing autism.

In science and public health circles, that issue has long since been considered settled, with multiple studies over many years discounting the findings of a small study published more than 20 years ago that has since been expunged from the medical literature.

But the size of this study — involving 657,461 Danish children born between 1999 and 2010 — should, in theory, bolster the argument that doctors and public health professionals still find themselves forced to make in the face of entrenched and growing resistance to vaccination in some quarters.

The work, published Monday in the Annals of Internal Medicine, was conducted by researchers at the Statens Serum Institut in Copenhagen. Some of the same scientists published an earlier article on this topic in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2002, based on data from 537,303 Danish children born between 1991 and 1998.

Why redo the work? Because the misplaced concern hasn’t gone away, said Anders Hviid, one of the researchers involved in the study.

“The idea that vaccines cause autism is still going around. And the anti-vaxx movement, if anything, has perhaps only grown stronger over the last 15 years,” he told STAT. “The trend that we’re seeing is worrying.”

Six measles outbreaks are currently ongoing in the United States, with 206 cases reported in January and February, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That two-month total is higher than the entire year’s tally for 2017.

Measles outbreaks have also been reported in a number of other countries around the world. A French family with unvaccinated children recently brought the virus to Costa Rica. An outbreak in an Orthodox Jewish community in New York City was triggered by a case that contracted the virus in Israel. The World Health Organization’s European regional office reported there were more than 85,000 cases across the continent in 2018 and 72 measles deaths.

Washington state has spent more than $1.2 million trying to contain an outbreak there that to date has seen 71 people become infected. State Health Secretary John Wiesman is appearing Tuesday before the Senate’s Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions to ask for more funding to help the country’s public health sector cope.

Among the things he plans to ask for: a 22 percent increase in funding for the CDC and a national information campaign to explain the value of vaccines.

The money is needed, he said, to ensure that “as the anti-vaccine movement has become so well organized, we are just really adequately prepared in getting out our message and to counter that.‘’

But will another study discounting a link between the MMR vaccine and autism make a difference? Not everyone is so sure.

In an editorial published with the study, Dr. Saad Omer of Emory University noted it’s important to think about opportunity costs when deciding to devote research time and money to further exploring such a well-mined issue, writing that “continuing to evaluate the MMR-autism hypothesis might come at the expense of not pursuing some of the more promising leads.”

(In an interview, Omer said he didn’t object to this particular study, which used existing data as opposed to data that had to be newly collected.)

He also wrote that evidence hasn’t won over the skeptics so far. “It has been said that we now live in a ‘fact-resistant’ world where data have limited persuasive value,” he said.

But Hviid said the size of this study allowed his group to look at some additional claims that are made about MMR vaccine — for example that children considered “at risk” of developing autism might be more likely to be diagnosed with the condition if they receive the vaccine. That argument is sometimes made about children who have a sibling with autism.

The Danish data, drawn from a national health registry, showed no increase in autism in this subset of children. Nor did it see an onset of autism symptoms clustered around the timing of the MMR vaccine receipt.

“We found no support for the hypothesis of increased risk for autism after MMR vaccination in … Danish children; no support for the hypothesis of MMR vaccination triggering autism in susceptible subgroups characterized by environmental and familial risk factors; and no support for a clustering of autism cases in specific time periods after MMR vaccination,” Hviid and his co-authors wrote.

Omer said the focus now needs to be on studies that make clear how best to persuade vaccine-hesitant parents that the vaccines are safe and in their children’s best interest. Progress is being made on figuring out how to effectively communicate with such parents, he said, noting they make up a larger group than the more vocal individuals who flatly reject vaccines.

“It’s an active area of research. But there are a lot of promising techniques that are coming online,” Omer said.

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Re: Vaccine - Autism link

Postby liminalOyster » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:11 am

Following SLAD:

Measles, Mumps, Rubella Vaccination and Autism: A Nationwide Cohort Study
Anders Hviid, DrMedSci; Jørgen Vinsløv Hansen, PhD; Morten Frisch, DrMedSci; Mads Melbye, DrMedSci

The hypothesized link between the measles, mumps, rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism continues to cause concern and challenge vaccine uptake.

To evaluate whether the MMR vaccine increases the risk for autism in children, subgroups of children, or time periods after vaccination.

Nationwide cohort study.


657 461 children born in Denmark from 1999 through 31 December 2010, with follow-up from 1 year of age and through 31 August 2013.

Danish population registries were used to link information on MMR vaccination, autism diagnoses, other childhood vaccines, sibling history of autism, and autism risk factors to children in the cohort. Survival analysis of the time to autism diagnosis with Cox proportional hazards regression was used to estimate hazard ratios of autism according to MMR vaccination status, with adjustment for age, birth year, sex, other childhood vaccines, sibling history of autism, and autism risk factors (based on a disease risk score).

During 5 025 754 person-years of follow-up, 6517 children were diagnosed with autism (incidence rate, 129.7 per 100,000 person-years). Comparing MMR-vaccinated with MMR-unvaccinated children yielded a fully adjusted autism hazard ratio of 0.93 (95% CI, 0.85 to 1.02). Similarly, no increased risk for autism after MMR vaccination was consistently observed in subgroups of children defined according to sibling history of autism, autism risk factors (based on a disease risk score) or other childhood vaccinations, or during specified time periods after vaccination.

No individual medical chart review was performed.

The study strongly supports that MMR vaccination does not increase the risk for autism, does not trigger autism in susceptible children, and is not associated with clustering of autism cases after vaccination. It adds to previous studies through significant additional statistical power and by addressing hypotheses of susceptible subgroups and clustering of cases.

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Novo Nordisk Foundation and Danish Ministry of Health. ... hort-study
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Re: Vaccine - Autism link

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:55 am

Boy spent 47 agonizing days in ICU with tetanus. Parents still refuse vaccines

Wracked with pain, unable to open his mouth, he was intubated and sedated for weeks.

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Boy spent 47 agonizing days in ICU with tetanus. Parents still refuse vaccines

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The young son of anti-vaccine parents endured excruciating pain and spent 47 days in pediatric intensive care after contracting tetanus, a devastating bacterial infection easily prevented by vaccines.

Despite the nightmarish ordeal, his parents still refused to have him vaccinated, according to health officials in Oregon who helped treat the boy. They reported the boy’s harrowing case Friday, March 8, in Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, an online publication from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The six-year-old Oregon boy contracted tetanus—also called lockjaw—innocently enough. He got a cut on his forehead while playing on his family’s farm in 2017. The boy’s wound was treated and sutured at home. Six days later, he showed signs of tetanus.

Tetanus is caused by the bacterium Clostridium tetani, which is found in soil and produces a toxin that causes painful muscle contractions. The boy’s symptoms started as crying fits, jaw clenching, muscle spasms, and neck and back arching. The same day, he started having trouble breathing, at which point his parents contacted emergency medical services, who quickly air-lifted him to a pediatric medical center.

When he arrived at the hospital he was suffering jaw muscle spasms. He indicated he wanted some water but couldn’t open his mouth enough to drink it. Some of his muscles necessary for breathing also started spasming, throwing the boy into respiratory distress. He had to be sedated, intubated, and placed on mechanical ventilation.

At this point, doctors admitted him to the intensive care unit, where they kept him in a dark room with ear plugs to avoid stimulating him, which can exacerbate the muscle spasms. They treated him with antibiotics and gave him a shot of a tetanus vaccine (DTaP). Still, his condition worsened. His heart raced, his blood pressure went up, and his body temperature spiked to nearly 105 degrees Fahrenheit. Doctors gave him multiple intravenous drugs to control his blood pressure, pain, and muscle spasms. They also performed a tracheostomy, cutting a hole in his neck for prolonged ventilator support.

The boy stayed like this for 35 days.

At that point, the doctors were able to wean him off the drugs for muscle spasms over five days. On day 44 of his hospital stay, he came off the ventilator and tolerated drinking clear liquids. On day 47, he was moved out of the ICU and into an intermediate care unit at the hospital. Three days later he was able to walk 20 feet—but he needed assistance.

On day 57, he was released from the hospital and transferred to a rehabilitation center. He spent another 17 days there. And it took another month after his rehab before he was back to his old activities, including running and riding a bike.

Despite the heart-wrenching saga and “extensive review of the risks and benefits of tetanus vaccination by physicians,” his parents refused another DTaP vaccination—and all other recommended vaccines. That means he’s still vulnerable to a whole slew of vaccine-preventable illnesses and could one day get tetanus again.

The doctors noted that his hospital bill totaled $811,929, which is about 72 times the average hospital bill for children. And that bill does not include air-transport and rehab costs.

They also noted that the boy was the first case of tetanus in Oregon in more than 30 years. This lack of tetanus cases is attributed to widespread tetanus vaccination. Nationwide, between 2009 and 2015, there were only 197 cases of tetanus, which resulted in 16 deaths.

The recommended schedule for tetanus vaccines for children is a five-dose course at 2, 4, and 6 months, then 15-18 months, and 4-6 years. Health experts recommend a booster shot every 10 years. ... -vaccines/
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Re: Vaccine - Autism link

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:31 pm

DrEvil » 07 Jan 2019 17:23 wrote:
stickdog99 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:30 am wrote:
DrEvil » 22 Dec 2018 18:21 wrote:Dude, truthwiki was started by the guy who runs Natural News, one of the most dishonest websites out there when it comes to this stuff. You might as well have linked to Infowars.

And sure, Skepticalraptor can be pretty harsh on the people he doesn't like, but if you read the article you would see that the Corvelva people made some pretty basic fuck-ups and leaps to conclusions that their results did not support.

Not to mention that research that is presented in the form of a pdf with no authors, on the website of the people who did the research is somewhat suspect. Get back to me when it's peer reviewed and published with all the authors listed.

This is your hero? Has Skeptical Raptor ever met a single mass produced chemical that he would not defend to the death? Ever?

I'm guessing you don't see the irony here.

What is Skeptical Raptor wrong about in this case?

No, I do not see the irony. Would you care to point it out to me? I pointed out that you routinely cite the personal attacks of clear agri-pharma-chemical shill as gospel truth. Skeptical Raptor is an industry funded attack dog who routinely libels any scientist who dares to question the safety or efficacy of any mass produced chemical. He is the very definition of an industry shill. He has never questioned the safety or efficacy of a single product produced by a large multinational corporation. He has never once questioned the merits of a single industry favorable scientific study no matter how ludicrous its methodology. But whenever any paper that is not industry favorable somehow gets funded and published against all the higher principle$ of peer reviewed $cience, you can always depend on good old Skeptical Raptor to take up his cudgel against the poor, naive scientists who had the temerity to threaten corporate revenue minus expenses. That is the sole purpose of his existence.

The idea that my intermittent questioning of select aspects of industry funded $cientific con$en$u$ creates some sort of "ironic" equivalence is ludicrous. In the conflict theory of independent scientists vs. industry $cientific con$en$u$, who enjoys every conceivable advantage (as well as inconceivably large advantages) in wealth, power, and prestige?
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Re: Vaccine - Autism link

Postby DrEvil » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:26 pm

The irony is that Mike Adams has never seen woo that he will not defend to the death. Why is someone who calls on his followers to murder people better than someone who uses harsh language?

You didn't answer my question either. What is he wrong about specifically?

Skepticalraptor is crowdfunded btw.
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