It is happening... again. Twin Peaks, that is.

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Postby 0_0 » Wed May 24, 2017 2:57 am

I absolutely adored the four first episodes. I went in with high expectations but it was so different and so much better than anything i couldve ever expected, just wow bob wow. Very dark, very surreal, but also very funny and goofy, and some very touching scenes. I'd rate them 11 out of 10 and can't wait for the next one.
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Postby RocketMan » Wed May 24, 2017 4:55 am

Yes. No mere fan service, nosirree. The 4th episode dialogue between Lynch's Gordon Cole and the sinister Mr. C(ooper). Wow, Bob, wow, indeed.

And Phillip ("We're not gonna talk about Judy at ALL") Jeffries is back.
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Postby BenDhyan » Wed May 24, 2017 7:50 am

I just watched the first episode of S03, it's been a while since I watched the last episode of S02, so my mind is updating and trying to make sense of it as a contiguous series. :confused
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Postby elfismiles » Wed May 24, 2017 9:15 am

Have only seen the first 2 eps so far. Wifey has imposed viewing restrictions to pace ourselves. Eps 3 and 4 on tap for this coming Memorial Day Weekend. :thumbsup

Lovin it! :lovehearts:

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Re: It is happening... again. Twin Peaks, that is.

Postby RocketMan » Wed May 24, 2017 10:50 am

"NON-EXIS-TENT"

It truly gets better with repeated viewings, they are also recommended (as the series is underway) due to the intense amount of information conveyed despite the deceptively slow-seeming pace.

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elfismiles » Wed May 24, 2017 4:15 pm wrote:Have only seen the first 2 eps so far. Wifey has imposed viewing restrictions to pace ourselves. Eps 3 and 4 on tap for this coming Memorial Day Weekend. :thumbsup

Lovin it! :lovehearts:

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Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu May 25, 2017 3:09 pm

I finally managed to watch the first episode and I can't believe it, but I think it superlative to the original. Mind blowing! Repeated viewings required.
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Postby brekin » Fri May 26, 2017 5:39 pm

I haven't seen it yet.
But this sequence I just ran into/over is dog shit.
That simply will not come off my shoe.
Is this an anomaly or is the series like this throughout?
I mean, this is like a bad Wes Anderson fan parody on Youtube or Lynch trying to do a SNL skit.
I actually like Cera, (and Brando in the Wild Ones and The Godfather) but this is...criminal.

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Postby Joao » Fri May 26, 2017 8:07 pm

^^^ lol, I guess if you don't like it then you don't like it.

Not too interested in defending a TV show, but I think they're deliberately going for awkward, expressionist melodrama at times. To some extent, if you're willing to play along with it, the obvious artificiality can have the paradoxical effect of humanizing the otherwise often bizarre characters and situations. And it adds a touch of eeriness. Admittedly, the part about his shadow was a little clunky.

Haven't seen that whole episode yet and that scene by itself didn't do a lot for me, but I don't have a lot of patience for TV and I've found the first two episodes fun and worthwhile. Sticky dog shit or shamantainment. Tomato or tomahto.
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Postby vondardanelle » Fri May 26, 2017 9:21 pm

the wally brando scene was kind of annoying but it's episode 4 of 18, too early to judge really (i think). and i think TP was always heavy on the melodrama. i re-watched the old series to get ready for the new one and was struck by how much of a soap opera it was. i didn't remember it like that.

so far i am really loving the new season. i was expecting to be let down, thinking it would be more nostalgic and tedious. the nostalgia parts are there-- like dougie coop drinking coffee and eating pancakes, and lucy and andy are pretty tedious so far-- but overall i'm so glad he's just gone more dark and crazy with it. that bit where coop ends up in that weird cosmic lighthouse was beautiful, as was the whole "NON EXIST ENT!" glass box bit, evil coop talking with gordon and albert, etc... i guess, so far, i am really pleased that it's been surprising and strange and beautiful. feels less "Twin Peaks" and more "six men getting sick + eraserhead + lost highway + inland empire", which i was not expecting.
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Postby mentalgongfu2 » Mon May 29, 2017 5:32 am

I was a latecomer to Twin Peaks. Never saw it during the original airing, only years later on the Internets after a friend gave me a download of Fire Walk With Me. I was home sick for 2 days and watched both original seasons and then had to re-watch FWWM.

As for the new season

I love it, even the Wally Brando scene. Such a great deadpan.

I actually laughed out loud, by myself.





Binged the first four episodes today. It's a true Lynchian vision, unfettered by the restraints of broadcast TV and in an age that allows TV a depth previously reserved for film. The sound work is amazing. And the way it feeds with the cinematography - superb. The world is both familiar and strange, comforting and menacing.

I don't have any story analysis to offer right now, but i'm thoroughly enjoying the ride so far.
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Postby brekin » Tue May 30, 2017 1:02 pm

Watched the first 2-3 episodes.
It has its moments. Kind of nice to watch a show that has slower edits. Most of the scenes go one 1-2 minutes longer than the average I would guess.
Too much time in the black lodge though. Loses some of the mystery and starts to become like a airport lounge full of stroke victims.
Also, the split world narrative often feels like we are just watching Phantasm 7: Art House Version. From what I remember of the original Twin Peaks there was a quasi traditional frame of narrative that helped glue the stranger arcs and moments. Now this seems like a buffet of performance art pieces. Don't know if I can keep on watching. Stopped when a very lost and frail looking Kyle MacLachlan (Agent Cooper) is shuffling around the coin slots at a casino. Seemed an unintentionally too apt epitaph for the series.

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Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue May 30, 2017 1:24 pm

It helps to know what occurred in the original series, but not essential. I had watched the first two, thinking it was only the first and a day or two later I caught episodes 3 & 4. 5 days to go!

I was also disappointed by the Brando scene, but that was because I didn't recall the past story and remain rather oblivious to the past interactions of characters.

That's what I get for binging the entire original series about 6 or 7 years ago when I was house sitting for my daughter, who has cable tv.

There are only a few shows from the past I would now enjoy watching once again: "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman" & "Ferndale," in particular.
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Postby brekin » Tue May 30, 2017 6:10 pm

brekin wrote:I haven't seen it yet.
But this sequence I just ran into/over is dog shit.
That simply will not come off my shoe.
Is this an anomaly or is the series like this throughout?
I mean, this is like a bad Wes Anderson fan parody on Youtube or Lynch trying to do a SNL skit.
I actually like Cera, (and Brando in the Wild Ones and The Godfather) but this is...criminal.


I haven't gotten to "the scene" yet. Doubtful I will. But some are saying it is the- best/funniest/what is needed- thing about Twin Peaks so far.

Let's just call it what it is:
Hipster irony & artisinal faux-autism swimming in film geek twee intellectualism.
a.k.a. Godawfulness.

Is Twin Peaks the Funniest Show on TV?

Sunday night's pair of new Twin Peaks episodes revealed Cera’s role, and I suspect it will be the most polarizing thing about this near-universally acclaimed series. Cera is Wally "Brando" Brennan, the child of Lucy and Andy. When we meet Wally, he’s dressed exactly like Marlon Brando in The Wild One (I mean exactly), straddling a motorcycle outside the Twin Peak’s Sheriff’s Department. For the next five minutes—five minutes!—Cera delivers a mumbly, lispy monologue punctuated by long, awkward silences. He’s talking about… Lewis and Clark? His own shadow? How he’s cool with his parents turning his bedroom into a study?

This scene is as interminable as it is baffling. We get a little important exposition. (Sheriff Harry S. Truman is ill, which is as logical a way as any to write Michael Ontkean out of the series.) But more than anything, this strange, digressive scene is here because it is so goddamn funny. I would watch an entire hour of this. Everything about Wally Brando is such perfectly calibrated nonsense (though Cera, to his credit, never winks). So why is this scene there? If I had to guess, I’d say it’s because it made David Lynch laugh too.
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http://www.gq.com/story/twin-peaks-funniest-show-on-tv

‘Twin Peaks’ MVP Wally Brando: 5 Reasons Michael Cera’s Brilliant Cameo Is Just What the Show Needed
The nod to Marlon Brando’s “The Wild One” character is just the start.
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/05/twin-p ... 201834109/

Michael Cera is the best part about Twin Peaks
We kid you not
https://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/5/29/15 ... twin-peaks
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Postby brekin » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:16 pm

I had to pull up and out of the series. Just canceled my Amazon prime and showtime trials, which they make harder than leaving the Church of Scientology.

Ultimately, I made it to the end or near the end of episode 4. A few thoughts, not intending to prickle those die hards, but just my take. Most of this can be dismissed, of course, with Lynch is Lynch is Lynch is Lynch. What I remember from the original series (granted haven't watched it in years and don't think I made it to the end with the original series. This was the 90's, there were things to do in the real world back then) was more of a upbeat, albeit moody to dark ambiance that permeated the show. It was kind of like Tales from the Dark Side but leavened with soft jazz and the promise of, if not fulfillment, at least some illumination. Cooper was kind of a Kennedyesque Best & Brightest old school preppy G-Man bouncing around in an even stranger, anachronistic and naive lost world town of Twin Peaks. So the dark, surreal, bizarre was mostly balanced by a vigor and sense of purpose (from what I remember impressionistically). Even if this deliverance was continually, perpetually held out, there was the imbued promise that kept you watching.

The new one seems to have lost its nerve, in a sense, and promises nothing. Even the premise anything will be revealed seems a bother, and if it comes will probably be if not anti-climactic, anti-dramatic. Cooper's reemergence after missing 25 years by the FBI was handled lamely and bumbley. And Cooper himself seems to be just doddering, without any purpose, or really task, let alone mission. I don't know why anyone would think watching a near comatose Cooper for 4 episodes would be intriguing, let alone dramatic. And his doppelgangers, even the bad one, seem flat, ho-hum, and frankly geriatric. Sitting for 25 years is enough anti-character development, do we really have to then see Cooper relearn how to walk and talk?

Honestly, I think this is an example of an artist who has grown increasingly insular, self contained and myopic. Lynch admits he doesn't see movies at all, and just watches the news and a car channel. And without the constraints, tensions of having to fit his vision into regular television format like last time, I think he lost some of the balance and benefits of having to compromise on pacing, content, tone, etc. It is kind of nice an auteur's imagination can be realized in this day and age to their specs, but my take is the series is going to have limited shelf value. Its funny, I thought Stranger Things was too derivative and superficial, more just aping a style, True Detective season 1 had it all going until the botched ending, but I have to sadly admit that Twin Peaks The Return, was just not watchable, whereas the others were, very much so.

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