KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

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KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:39 am

Found dead in a hotel room in (where else?) Florida. After an autopsy, the death was ruled a homicide.

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Commander Alphonso Doss, 44

Here's the first page of returns for the Google search term "Cmdr. Alphonso Doss khalid sheikh". The big corporate media (NYT, WP, Guardian, BBC, etc.) appear to have ignored or suppressed the story entirely. (I only found out about it myself today, thanks to a tweet entitled "Modern day MK Ultra". )

Had anyone here heard anything about this before? If not, why not?

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was, notoriously, waterboarded 183 times in order to secure his "confession" to having masterminded 9/11. But the mass media seem curiously uninterested in the fate of the man who oversaw that torture. The websites that reported the story of Alphonsoi Doss's murder appear to be all either a) small and obscure, or b) military publications -- most of which seem notably tightlipped both about the circumstances of his death and -- especially -- about the fact that he was in charge of KSM's interrogation.

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/20 ... d-911.html

NB: Not a suicide, a homicide. So who murdered Commander Alphonso Doss, and why? And how, exactly? And why wasn't this big, big news?*

*Cos, after all, for all we know it could have been a vengeful Al Qaeda terrst, right? For instance.
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Re: KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby elfismiles » Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:07 am

Thanks Mac, I had NOT heard about this ...

Another "Murder Mystery" revolving around Guantanamo Bay...

A Murder Mystery at Guantanamo Bay
October 10, 2014

Exclusive: America’s plunge into the “dark side” last decade created a hidden history of shocking brutality, including torture and homicides, that the U.S. government would prefer to keep secret, even though many of the perpetrators are out of office, writes ex-CIA analyst Ray McGovern.

By Ray McGovern

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Re: KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:45 am

No, I've heard nothing at all Mac, nada. But you nailed why in your second sentence.

Elfi, I saw that headline, but chose not to read it. I will now, ugh.

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from: The Florida Times-Union

Postby IanEye » Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:05 am

Police: Estranged wife, 2 others killed Jacksonville Navy commander for $1 million in life insurance money

A slain Jacksonville Navy commander’s estranged wife, her boyfriend and that man’s best friend are charged in his February strangulation in an Orange Park motel in a failed plot she masterminded to steal more than $1 million in life insurance money, police said Tuesday.
The arrests come nearly six months after the killing of Cmdr. Alphonso Mortimer Doss, 44, who was found dead Feb. 12 in his room at the Astoria Hotel on Park Avenue off U.S. 17 near Interstate 295.
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Re: KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:12 am

Thanks, elfis and IAWIA.

I've just noticed this message at the bottom of that page (I'm in Germany):

Einige Ergebnisse wurden möglicherweise aufgrund der Bestimmungen des europäischen Datenschutzrechts entfernt.

"Some returns may have been removed to comply with the stipulations of European data-protection law." By this I presume they mean "the right to be forgotten". I wonder who wanted those search results removed.

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Exactly what is going on here? I mean, according to the official story, acquiring KSM's confession was one of the great triumphs in the War on Terror. For KSM was -- again according to the official story -- the mastermind of 9/11! And this man, Navy Commander Alphonso Doss, headed KSM's successful interrogation in Guantanamo.

And yet his murder was not news?

Whatever happened to "support our troops"? Why wasn't this mysterious unsolved murder all over the front pages?
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Re: KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby Jerky » Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:19 am

Yes, this is quite nuts on many levels. Thank you so much for making us aware of it.

I will be posting it at Useless Eater Blog today.

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Re: KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby Jerky » Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:46 am

Here is a link to the story as I've presented it...

http://uselesseaterblog.blogspot.ca/201 ... gator.html
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Re: KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby stefano » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:16 am

Thanks Mac, all. Very interesting. Well done Jerky.

From the link IanEye posted (Florida Times-Union):

Orange Park Police Chief Gary Goble said Tuesday that Washington [the boyfriend] strangled Doss by hand in what was a staged burglary. The plan had been to kill Doss and collect money from at least one life insurance policy, but no money was paid, Goble said.

Goble said Doss' wife served as a lookout from a parking lot for the two men, who entered her husband's room using a key provided by her and then waited for Doss to arrive. A struggle preceded Doss' death, police said.

Doss, who knew both men, had been living at the motel after separating from his wife months earlier while struggling with alcohol and other problems. The decorated veteran, who served in the Navy since 1987, was temporarily stationed in Jacksonville at the Center for Naval Aviation Technical Training Unit.

Allen said he last spoke with his son three weeks before his death when he revealed he’d been undergoing treatment for substance abuse. He said his son intended to reunite with his wife of 22 years, whom Allen knew as Denise, and their daughter after retiring.
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Goble first publicized the slaying two weeks after it occurred, saying he had no reason to immediately contact the media, as occurs in most homicide cases, until a reporter inquired about the death.


Weird. So he knows his ex-wife's new lover, she has a key to his motel room, and Doss's dad knows his daugther-in-law of 22 years under a different name.

From a different piece:

Doss’ recent troubles included a DUI conviction, the foreclosure of his home and the break-up of his marriage, records and acquaintances said. Doss’ family could not be reached to comment.

Court records show that the home Doss, his wife and a daughter lived in off Baymeadows Road near Interstate 295 was lost to foreclosure in December. The records said the action was sought after Doss and his wife failed to pay $1,369 in homeowner’s association fees and related attorney costs for living in the middle-class Reedy Branch Plantation subdivision.

No one answered the door at the home Thursday and neighbors said they didn’t know the Doss family.

Astoria Hotel manager Harry Mangini said Doss had been living alone for the past few months at the hotel off U.S. 17 just south of Interstate 295. Mangini described Doss as a quiet, courteous man who caused no trouble.

Mangini said he learned after the killing that Doss was going through what Mangini described as a bitter divorce from his wife of 22 years. No records confirming the couple was divorcing were available.

Charles Baxter, who runs a deli in a convenience store across from the hotel, said Doss was a regular customer who befriended Baxter’s 18-year-old son several months ago. Baxter said he regularly drove Doss and his son to a substance-abuse treatment program in Jacksonville. Baxter said Doss told him he’d been attending the program since October for alcoholism and other trouble.

Doss was convicted of DUI in Santa Rosa County in August 2012, state records show. No other arrests were listed.
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Doss’ career with the Navy was noteworthy for various reasons, including his being part of a team told by terrorist Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, of his role as a mastermind behind 9/11, according to a 2012 story in The Bolivar (Miss.) Commercial, Doss’ hometown newspaper.

The newspaper said he enlisted in the Navy after graduating high school with honors in 1987. He completed two combat deployments in the Mediterranean about the aircraft carriers USS Coral Sea in 1989 and the USS Forrestal in 1991, when it was based at Mayport Naval Air Station.

He was commissioned a naval officer in 1996 through the Navy Reserve Officer Training Corps in program at the University of North Florida and Jacksonville University. He completed two secret counter drug missions in the Caribbean and South America in 1997 and 1998, the Commercial reported.

He also assisted in conducting annual review boards for suspected enemy combatants held at Guantanamo Bay beginning in 2006, the newspaper said. His team was charged with interviewing detainees and conducting boards to determine if they should be released. Mohammed was one of those detainees, the newspaper said. The Times-Union could not confirm that account.
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Re: KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby Jerky » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:23 am

Thanks Stefano. Interesting follow-up! I'll link to this thread on my blog.
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Re: KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:44 am

Thanks, everyone.

First of all, let's remember that the wife and the two accomplices are only charged with the murder, not yet convicted of it. I realise that's an increasingly irrelevant distinction in the US these days, but still worth keeping in mind. The case has not yet been solved.

Secondly, the story as told by the prosecutors takes some believing. Two guys overpowered this Naval Commander in his hotel room before beating & strangling him to death and no witness saw or heard anything at the time? No screaming, no shouting, no banging around? Also: There was no video surveillance anywhere in or around the hotel in February 2014 (in the 13th year of the War on Terror)?

Thirdly, we're told the estranged wife was waiting in her car in the parking lot. Surely she was a prime suspect from the very start? She and the murder victim were undergoing an acrimonious divorce at the time. So why did it take the cops months to investigate, arrest and charge her?

Fourthly: No surveillance camera (and no witness) saw that car entering or leaving the parking lot shortly before and/or after the murder?

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The Astoria is near I-295 and Highway 17 in Orange Park, four miles from the Jacksonville Naval Complex.

http://www.priceline.com/hotel/hotelOve ... opID=40082


Not a single camera recorded that car passing on the highway or main roads nearby? Bullshit.

An Orange Park woman charged with masterminding the slaying of her estranged Navy commander husband for insurance money is the daughter of a former Mississippi elementary school principal who tried killing his lover’s hospitalized husband in a similar murder-for-hire plot.

Police never considered the woman’s father a suspect in the Feb. 12 slaying of Cmdr. Alphonso Doss but were aware of the family’s history, said Orange Park Police Chief Gary Goble.


WTF? How can they be aware of the family's "murder-for-hire" history and not suspect the family?

“You can’t make this stuff up,” Goble said Thursday.


Oh yes you can. Where there's a will there's a way.

Orange Park police didn’t reveal they were investigating the still-unsolved slaying of Cmdr. Alphonso Mortimer Doss, 44, for two weeks because there was no pressing need to do so, Police Chief Gary Goble told the Times-Union Thursday morning.

Goble said he is confident in the probe’s progress and put out a brief news release Wednesday only upon an inquiry from a television reporter based on a tip. The news release and a heavily redacted police report said a woman discovered Doss in Room 183 at the Astoria Hotel Suites near Jacksonville Naval Air Station and that an autopsy found he was killed. Few other details were released.

http://members.jacksonville.com/news/cr ... ubled-life


???

From the reviews on the hotel website (this one's from May this year, three months after the Doss murder):

5/10
Verified Hotel Guest
Traveling as Couple
5/12/2014

Due to the 'gangsta' element at night, and most obviously on the weekends, this is not good at all for the overall integrity of an otherwise pleasant place to stay. The ghetto thugs are ruining it for everybody, except themselves. We checked out early because of the outside company that was surrounding the front door and parking lot. Didn't feel very safe. Nothing but a bunch of punks with attitudes.

The staff was very nice

YES.the nightclub inside was entirely 'ghetto'! OMG, police and security were everywhere watching the doors, and when I asked the desk clerk what was going on, she said it was normal because the club gets packed and fights break out. Thugs everywhere!

http://www.priceline.com/hotel/hotelOve ... opID=40082


So:

1) "police and security were everywhere"

2) The Navy were happy to have one of their most prominent Commanders (a man apparently in a very fragile emotional state) staying in a place like this? A man who was in possession of lots of classified information about the nation'sHomeland's most high-profile and heavily-guarded terrorist detainees -- and who was by then known to have a serious alcohol-abuse problem?
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Re: KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:25 am

Btw, Florida's police force is amazingly un-racist, if we can believe this yarn. Quite exemplary. Or is there anywhere else in the USA where it takes the cops so long to even suspect a black person of committing a crime? Even if she's the person closest to the victim? Even if she wanted him out of her life? Even if she has means, motive & opportunity, plus a "murder-for-hire plot" (sic) in her recent family history?

This whole case stinks. Not to beat about the bush: I am wondering if Commander Alphonso Doss knew something he wasn't supposed to know -- about KSM in particular, or about Guantanamo and its detainees in general. I am wondering if that was what was driving him to drink. And I am wondering why the Navy allowed him to become homeless (for a debt of under $1400) and then left him to rot in a cheap motel.
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Re: KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby elfismiles » Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:27 pm

As a friend mentioned to me:

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed bragged that he was one of the masterminds behind 9/11 "to aljazeera in 2002, was arrested by pak police in 2002, handed over to cia who tortured him from then UNTIL 2006 when then sent him from black sites to gitmo."

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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:49 pm

Always Florida, always. FBI shooting of unarmed boston bombing brother friend. 9/11 hijackers. First anthrax case, connected to the hijackers.
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Re: KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby Byrne » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:38 am

MacCruiskeen » 12 Oct 2014 13:39 wrote:Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was, notoriously, waterboarded 183 times in order to secure his "confession" to having masterminded 9/11.


Does anyone know when Commander Alphonso Doss was supposed to have tortured/interrogated KSM? Was this in Gitmo? because this July 2014 appeal notes states that KSM was also waterboarded in Poland....


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In the case notes of the July 2014 appeal heard in Strasbourg of Abd Al Rahim Hussayn Muhammad Al Nashiri (Saudi Arabian national of Yemeni descent). Al Nashiri is/was accused of involvement with the USS Cole bombing in October 2000 in Aden, Yemen & also the October 2002 French oil tanker MV Limburg incident in the Gulf of Aden (rammed by a small explosives-laden boat which detonated)

Al Nashiri is appealing re the allegations of torture and secret detention on Polish territory….
#331. In response to a question regarding the scope of the Polish authorities’ knowledge of the CIA operations in Poland, he [Mr J.G.S, a lawyer and investigator who has worked on multiple investigations under the mandate of the Council of Europe] said:

“To a limited extent, I can address this point. I would first state that I know that Polish officials were not in the room during the conduct of particular interrogations of the detainees held by the CIA. To be precise therefore, there were no Polish nationals present during the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in Poland. There were no Polish nationals present during the incidents of abuse described vis-à-vis Mr Al Nashiri. That should be a limiting factor on the extent of knowledge. I do not believe nor does the evidence indicate that Polish officials were able to see interrogations being carried out or indeed learn of their outcomes. This was the reserve of the CIA and maintained strictly on a need-to-know basis.
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Re: KSM's interrogator was murdered in February

Postby Byrne » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:52 am

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Former Ruleville student promoted to Navy Commander
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Navy Commander Alphonso Mortimer Doss was recently promoted to his current rank in a ceremony held at Navy Operational Support Center Jacksonville, Fla.

Doss is a 1987 honor graduate of Ruleville Central High School in Ruleville.

Upon graduating from high school, Doss enlisted into the Navy.

He was later commissioned a Naval Officer in 1996 through the Navy Reserve Officer Training Corps program at the University of North Florida/Jacksonville University in Jacksonville, Fla.

During his naval career, Doss completed two combat Mediterranean deployments with Fighter Attack Squadron One Three Seven onboard the aircraft carriers USS Coral Sea (1989) and USS Forrestal (1991).

He also completed two secret counter-drug missions in the Caribbean and South America while stationed onboard USS Connolly (1997/1998).

The purpose of these two missions was to intercept illegal drugs being trafficked to the United States from that region.

In 2006 Doss was ordered by the Deputy Secretary of the Navy to assist in conducting the Annual Review Boards for suspected enemy-combatants held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

There, Doss’ team was charged with interviewing detainees and conducting boards to determine if the detainee in question should be released, transferred to another facility or be recommended for continued detention at Guantanamo Bay.

It was during this tour that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed admitted to Doss’ team that he was one of the masterminds behind 9/11.


Doss has been awarded the Navy and Marine Corps Commendation medal (2 awards), the Joint Service Achievement medal (2 awards), the Navy and Marine Corps Achievement medal (6 awards), the Good Conduct medal (3 awards) and many other unit campaign awards.

Doss holds an associate of arts degree from Columbia College, a bachelor of arts degree from the University of North Florida, a master of business (MBA) degree from Trident University International and is currently a student in a doctor of education program.

Doss is the son of Ruby Doss Edwards and Tom Allen, both of Ruleville.

He is married to the former Yolinda Denise Hunter, also a 1987 honor graduate of Ruleville Central High.

They have one daughter, Alexis.
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