Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

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Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:09 am

I read earlier today an op-ed by a columnist coming from a black female perspective on Bill Cosby and the disconnect many have. And I was thinking, Bill Cosby later in his years would often
go off on rants excoriating young black Americans, particularly young black males. The writer makes the point many have said that his signature 1980's Cosby show and persona was such
a massive source of inspiration and joy for its depiction while also helping to win over white audiences. And as we all know, this was of course in stark horror to the reality of the crack epidemic, Reagan policies, mass poverty, hopelessness, etc was destroying countless black cities and families. Cosby was notorious in his later years for excoriating young black people; particularly young black males. And the irony people point out is
that he was the one that failed them. (A whole other topic would be looking up to a cult of personality as an end all be all)
Another theme of course is how many trail blazing black men have fallen, be it of tragedy or of corruption or other means in recent years. The system may not be killing them outright like in the 60s,
but character assassination and the throne of celebrity worship has been a central base.

But the thought I wanted to get to isn't about what Bill Cosby's monstrous actions have done regarding the moral trust of blacks or the physical trust of women in this country...
it's the nature of reality. This article and video is her saying so many people can't believe "everyone's favorite fatherly figure" could end up being so wicked.
To me this applies to everything we've exhaustively talked about on here...that disconnect. The reason for the endless child sexual abuse epidemic in the Catholic church going on for so long.
The reason why the majority of America cheerlead the last few wars post 9/11 despite the horror it brought. Or a whole town unwilling to even entertain their God Jerry Sandusky was such
a predatory monster
It's like finding out tomorrow you're an alien or the earth really is flat. It's more than just 'don't want to know how my sausage is made' or Morpheus explaining the Matrix to Neo.

I wrote the other night how I'm excited for the HBO Going Clear Scientology doc film to illustrate how these "prison of beliefs" take hold..

But I strongly see the ability to not connect the image of Cosby to what he's done with these women with so much of the every day reality people don't want to know and why it's so hard
for people to come to terms with it. Not calling something a conspiracy theory, not calling someone wrong for pointing out something ...but just not wanting to believe it or putting it in their pocket


Anyways here's the article on why so many can't fathom their idol could do such things
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/18/entertain ... index.html
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Re: Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby BrandonD » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:57 am

Cosby is a man, have men raped people? Yes they have. The only way this would be difficult to accept is if one is swimming in the western mythology that has been constructed around him. Many Americans are.

Anyone who identifies themselves with a system cannot look at that system objectively. People in western society believe themselves to be good people, and to accept that one has been aligned for years with something that is "evil" is too shattering to one's identity.

The more one is identified with western culture, the less one is able to make an objective assessment of it.
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Re: Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby Nordic » Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:38 pm

I'm not sure that people are so unwilling to accept this. Maybe it's the universe I live in, where everyone has known for years that Cosby was a wretched human being, a massive asshole, and hated children.

But it seems like enough damage has been done that most people aren't in denial about it. Of course there will always be a percentage who will never believe this, because they don't want to. But I wonder what that percentage actually is?
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Postby IanEye » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:04 am

Timing is everything.

Christopher Hitchens made quite a name for himself in the 90’s telling us all what a bad guy Henry Kissinger was.

“Boy, that Henry Kissinger, he sure is bad!” - Christopher Hitchens

Then the 90’s ended, and shortly thereafter America was under attack.

Christopher Hitchens shortly thereafter had a new mission, telling us all what a bad guy Saddam Hussein was.

“Boy, that Saddam Hussein, he sure is bad!” - Christopher Hitchens




In the video above you can see Mr. Hitchens describing many of the ways that Saddam was a bad guy.
One of the ways that Saddam was so bad was that he was a double crosser!

He betrayed people, people that had helped him out and helped him become more powerful.

What a bad guy.

In early 2003 I would watch Mr. Hitchens do this act on PBS all the time.

I kept waiting for someone to point out to Mr. Hitchens that he wasn’t endorsing the generic removal of Saddam Hussein, but was instead endorsing a very specific administration as the architects of that removal, the Bush administration.

But no one ever did.



Then I remembered something.

I remembered that when it came time to appoint a 9/11 commission, the person that the Bush administration wanted to be in charge of that commission was Henry Kissinger.

Then I knew for sure that Christopher Hitchens was totally compromised.
Someone had some really well lit footage of Christopher Hitchens fucking little kids.

Christopher Hitchens was a bad guy.


Somebody has some really well lit footage of Bill Cosby too.

Once, in the 90’s Bill Cosby fucked a woman while she was unconscious.

This made a very powerful man very angry.

This man was angry not because he cared for that woman, but because that woman was his property, not Bill Cosby’s.


This powerful man went to some even more powerful men and told them he wanted permission to kill Bill.

These men said no, they had too much invested in Bill Cosby, but they certainly understood the desire for vengeance.

They told the man he could kill Ennis Cosby.

This pleased the man whose property had been damaged, so that is what he did.

Shortly thereafter Bill Cosby was shown footage of the murder of of his son, he was also shown some other footage.

Sins of the father.

I recall in Spike Lee’s film about Malcolm X the FBI laments that unlike Martin Luther King, they can’t get any good footage of brother Malcolm doing questionable things.

Bill Clinton was neutered in his second term by the reality of Monica Lewinsky.
Unfortunately, there is no White House intern at present named, “Ebonica Alinsky”.

So, they will neuter Obama by proxy, this is the final usefulness of Bill Cosby.

Timing is everything.
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Re: Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby conniption » Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:50 pm

Google "Bill Clinton rape"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw5AAYnEA8w
Published on Mar 21, 2015

SHOW NOTES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=13934

Bill Clinton, exactly like Bill Cosby, is a multiply-accused rapist with allegations stretching back decades. And exactly like Cosby, Clinton has settled a sexual harassment lawsuit out of court. But unlike Cosby, Clinton continues to enjoy the adoration of the public and the benefits of his personal fortune. Why? Because we haven't made it an issue yet. Let's start: Google "Bill Clinton rape."
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Re: Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby coffin_dodger » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:07 pm

I'm not sure America is ready for one it's ex-Beloved to be outed as a rapist, just yet.
Still, these internet memes can spread like wildfire. Maybe the US is getting closer to admitting some ghastly home truths.
Even if only to come to terms with them.
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Re: Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby slomo » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:15 pm

8bitagent » 18 Mar 2015 21:09 wrote: To me this applies to everything we've exhaustively talked about on here...that disconnect. The reason for the endless child sexual abuse epidemic in the Catholic church going on for so long.
The reason why the majority of America cheerlead the last few wars post 9/11 despite the horror it brought. Or a whole town unwilling to even entertain their God Jerry Sandusky was such
a predatory monster
It's like finding out tomorrow you're an alien or the earth really is flat. It's more than just 'don't want to know how my sausage is made' or Morpheus explaining the Matrix to Neo.


The flip side is that America (and more generally Western Civ) won't ever listen to the victims, having already decided they are losers, crazy, "playing the victim", etc.

Winner and loser status is assigned at birth, that's just the way it is, kid.
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Re: Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby Harvey » Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:30 pm

---- Edit - I apologise, I was completely out of control with this post. I've decided to remove it ----

It was rambling, nearly irrelevant and very offensive. For those who wish to see why I'm an idiot, it's on my blog page. To summarise, the technology we use to discuss our media agenda has destroyed more lives than tens of thousands of Cosby's, routinely, directly, even without the indirect cost.
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Re: Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby IanEye » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:38 am

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Re: Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:01 am

Nordic » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:38 pm wrote:I'm not sure that people are so unwilling to accept this. Maybe it's the universe I live in, where everyone has known for years that Cosby was a wretched human being, a massive asshole, and hated children.

But it seems like enough damage has been done that most people aren't in denial about it. Of course there will always be a percentage who will never believe this, because they don't want to. But I wonder what that percentage actually is?


But let's say the average person; or people who felt inspired or looked up to him. It's hard for me to think of another iconic figure like Cosby with such a horrible side revealed. Not OJ, his forray into tv/film and sports was nowhere near a Cosby level. Not Woody Allen, since Woody Allen's audience while broad has never really reached deep into poor communities.

I only made this thread because "Cosby is a monster" to me is analog to a lot of things that are hard to reckon with. September 11th being not exactly as we were told. American companies and businesses being deeply in bed with the Nazi regime. British MPs being involved in secret murderous pedo cults in the 1980s....tying into well, the whole Jimmy Seville case. I bet a lot of British people still have a hard time letting sink in the crimes of Seville.

To a lot of people the news of Cosby being a decades long sadistic rapist is indeed quite a shock I would imagine.
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Re: Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:08 am

conniption » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:50 pm wrote:Google "Bill Clinton rape"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw5AAYnEA8w
Published on Mar 21, 2015

SHOW NOTES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=13934

Bill Clinton, exactly like Bill Cosby, is a multiply-accused rapist with allegations stretching back decades. And exactly like Cosby, Clinton has settled a sexual harassment lawsuit out of court. But unlike Cosby, Clinton continues to enjoy the adoration of the public and the benefits of his personal fortune. Why? Because we haven't made it an issue yet. Let's start: Google "Bill Clinton rape."


For Clinton, all his spin machine would have to do if he suddenly had Cosby amounts of acusers now come forward is play the 'right wing conspiracy' card...as well, the right wing has long had an obsession over him.
John Edwards fell out of political favorability with Democrats after we all learned he was had a child and was cheating with a woman while his wife was battling cancer and using donator funds to pay her off.
Yet, we all know even if evidence was overwhelming with Clinton, his base(including a lot of women) would not buy it.
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Re: Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby chump » Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:32 pm

Prince Ray always spins an interesting perspective:


BILL COSBY, PROJECT ARTICHOKE, MENGELE & THE DARK MESSIAH, PART I

... There is another side to Bill Cosby... that has shielded him from the liability and exposure of his EVIL throughout the decades. A side that is absolute [b]Satanic, classified top secret linked to the covert programs of the U.S. Government- Operation PAPERCLIP, U.S. Navy, the CIA- Project BLUEBIRD, ARTICHOKE and MK ULTRA. As a Guardian of Forbidden Knowledge, Cosby’s memory is loaded with a ton of dynamite. His memory is a liability to a lot of people in HollyWeird and outside. It could open Pandora’s box and rattle a lot of bones in the skeleton closet of HollyWeird, Naval Intelligence, Mafia and the CIA.

I also suspect that Cosby’s continued silence in the mounting wave of rape and sexual abuse accusations against him is not due to any issues of senility, but mainly because his mind has been wiped clean. DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE

There has been many theories that sought to explain what happened in Nazi Germany. Banality of EVIL is a thesis that the Holocaust- Racial Mass Murder were not executed by fanatics or sociopaths, but by ordinary people like Oberstumbannfuhrer (lieutenant colonel) SS Otto Adolf Eichmann and Hauptsturmführer (Captain) SS Dr. Josef Mengele that just happened to accept the premises of their state and therefore participated with the view that their actions were normal, just “the way things are done.”[6]

After WW II, there was those that sought the prosecution and punishment of Nazis for war crimes and CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. Some sought “denazification” to re-educate Nazis that its state campaign of Racial Mass Murder and Aryan Domination based upon pseudo racial and scientific theories was/is not normal and that is not “the way things are done.”

At the Fall of Nazi Germany, thousands of its leading ardent Nazi and SS scientists, physicians, military and business leaders that had not been prosecuted and punished, and had not been “denazified” were clandestinely smuggled into America on the basis of National Security.

In most cases, those secretly smuggled into America, their membership in the Virl Society, SS- Knights of the Black Sun, Nazi Party and evidence of their executed CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY only became a note of paper clipped (Operation PAPERCLIP) to their files.

“The Nationalist Socialists derived power from one source: … a fanatical autohypnosis

which convinced disciples, succumbing to the totalitarian discipline in the promise of reaching transcendent reality, that they were the new men the age was waiting for.. ..that they were endowed with a secret energy which would enable them to take over Germany and the world. If they were properly prepared, mysteries would be revealed to them which would give them SATANIC POWERS.” Dusty Sklar, Gods and Beasts – The Nazi’s and the Occult, 1977

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The VRIL SOCIETY was dedicated to EVIL,” says historian Michael Fitzgerald…Through their control of the Nazi party they committed the greatest acts of EVIL in the 20th Century.”[7]

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Re: Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby Lord Balto » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:52 am

Harvey » Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:30 pm wrote:---- Edit - I apologise, I was completely out of control with this post. I've decided to remove it ----

It was rambling, nearly irrelevant and very offensive. For those who wish to see why I'm an idiot, it's on my blog page. To summarise, the technology we use to discuss our media agenda has destroyed more lives than tens of thousands of Cosby's, routinely, directly, even without the indirect cost.


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Re: Thoughts on Cosby & The Nature Of Reality

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:44 pm

Interesting rant, chump, but he never ties Cosby to his first paragraph claims.
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Free Radio Ablum (uth)

Postby IanEye » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:33 pm



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Brown Whörnet
Radio Ablum (Perverted Son)

You've been there before, I'm sure. You're deliriously tired, nodding off after miles and miles of hard driving, and you've already burned tread marks into every CD in your carrying case. With no other recourse, ladies and gentlemen, it's rrrrrradio time!
First time around the dial, there are some odd promo spots and some strange, violent, musical outbursts; soul songs gone speed metal. But you don't really think anything of it. Then comes the conspiracy theories, fiery pentacostal ministers, and dollar-a-holler hawkers. Now you've gone and hit the jackpot! It's loads of fun, at first, but then things start getting creepy.
By the time the KFAB (Kneecaps for All Babies) promotion comes on, you know something's seriously askew. Pretty soon you figure it out: You're picking up radio waves from an alternate universe. There's no other explanation for all the strange, warped voices and sick jokes, and nobody except South Park is this insensitive! I mean, who are all these sickos making fun of blacks, gays, Jews, Mexicans, priests, and rednecks?
And the music -- it's constantly shifting. Sometimes it sounds like Austin's Brown Whörnet, but only for a minute or two. I swear, somebody needs to tell the Whörnet that weirdos from another universe are sampling their songs. I bet they'd get a kick out of it.


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