Racist Trump Speaks - Charleston black church massacre

[seemslikeadream]

Racist Trump speaks....interviewed by Morning Joe...giving a racist a platform.. legitimacy ..old white racist men's message...take our country back

Trump says Mexicans are coming here raping our women...white kid says I have to kill you because you are raping our women

He was really a sweet kid

Police capture suspect in Charleston black church massacre

Photo by: AP
This April 2015 photo released by the Lexington County (S.C.) Detention Center shows Dylann Roof, 21. Charleston Police identified Roof as the shooter who opened fire during a prayer meeting inside the Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, S.C., Wednesday, June 17, 2015 night, killing several people. (Lexington County (S.C.) Detention Center via AP)

Thursday, June 18, 2015
By:
Associated Press


CHARLESTON, S.C. — An intense manhunt was underway Thursday for a white man who joined a prayer meeting and then opened fire inside a historic black church in downtown Charleston, killing nine people, including the pastor. Authorities called it a hate crime.



Developing: Attorney General Lynch: 'I can confirm that there is a suspect in custody' in church shooting ...

Charleston police identified the suspect as Dylann Storm Roof, 21, of Lexington, South Carolina. He may be driving a black Hyundai, police spokeswoman Barbara Vaughn said.

The gunman stayed for nearly an hour at the prayer meeting Wednesday night before shooting the victims — six females and three males, Police Chief Greg Mullen said.

"This is a very dangerous individual," the chief said.

Roof's childhood friend, Joey Meek, alerted the FBI after recognizing him in a surveillance camera image that was widely circulated, said Meek's mother, Kimberly Kozny. Roof had worn that sweatshirt over to their house many times as they played Xbox videogames in recent weeks, she added.

"He was a really sweet kid. He was quiet. He only had a few friends," Kozny said.

The Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church's pastor, state Sen. Clementa Pinckney, was among those killed. Pinckney, 41, was a married father of two who was elected to the state House at 23, making him the youngest member of the House at the time.

"He never had anything bad to say about anybody, even when I thought he should," State House Minority leader Todd Rutherford told The Associated Press. "He was always out doing work either for his parishioners or his constituents. He touched everybody."

This shooting "should be a warning to us all that we do have a problem in our society," said state Rep. Wendell Gilliard, a Democrat whose district includes the church. "We need action. There's a race problem in our country. There's a gun problem in our country. We need to act on them quickly."

Mullen said names of the victims would be released once families have been notified.

The FBI is involved, and a Justice Department spokesman said federal officials were opening a hate crime investigation. The spokesman spoke on condition of anonymity because the federal investigation had not been officially announced.

Mullen said he had no reason to think the suspect has left the Charleston area, but was distributing information about him and the vehicle around the country.

Charleston Mayor Joseph P. Riley Jr. called the shooting "an unfathomable and unspeakable act by somebody filled with hate and with a deranged mind."

"Of all cities, in Charleston, to have a horrible hateful person go into the church and kill people there to pray and worship with each other is something that is beyond any comprehension and is not explained," Riley said. "We are going to put our arms around that church and that church family."

A few bouquets of flowers tied to a police barricade formed a small but growing memorial Thursday morning a block away from the church.

"Today I feel like it's 9-11 again," Bob Dyer, who works in the area, said after leaving an arrangement of yellow flowers wrapped in plastic. "I'm in shock."

Charleston residents Samuel Ward and Evangeline Simmons stood silently at the barricade with arms around each other. Simmons said she belongs to another AME congregation.

"It's like it's just trying to strip away part of your faith," Simmons said. "But it just makes you stronger."

In a statement, NAACP President and CEO Cornell William Brooks condemned the shooting.

"There is no greater coward than a criminal who enters a house of God and slaughters innocent people engaged in the study of scripture," Brooks said.

The attack came two months after the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man, Walter Scott, by a white police officer in neighboring North Charleston that sparked major protests and highlighted racial tensions in the area. The officer has been charged with murder, and the shooting prompted South Carolina lawmakers to push through a bill helping all police agencies in the state get body cameras. Pinckney was a sponsor of that bill.

Soon after Wednesday night's shooting, a group of pastors huddled together praying in a circle across the street.

Community organizer Christopher Cason said he felt certain the shootings were racially motivated.

"I am very tired of people telling me that I don't have the right to be angry," Cason said. "I am very angry right now."

Even before Scott's shooting in April, Cason said he had been part of a group meeting with police and local leaders to try to shore up relations.

The Emanuel AME church is a historic African-American church that traces its roots to 1816, when its founding members split from Charleston's white-run Methodist Episcopal church.

One of its founders, Denmark Vesey, tried to organize a slave revolt in 1822. He was caught, and white landowners had his church burned in revenge. Parishioners worshipped underground until after the Civil War.

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South Carolina is home to 19 known hate groups — including two factions of the Ku Klux Klan and four "white nationalist" organizations, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

[Luther Blissett]

Yeah this is 100% a hate crime, and probably affiliated with a group.

Terrorist targeted historic SC church on 193rd anniversary of thwarted slave revolt planned by its founder

The black South Carolina church where a white terrorist gunned down nine worshipers was burned down nearly 200 years ago as part of a seminal event in United States history.

Denmark Vesey and five slaves were hanged in July 1822 for allegedly plotting a revolt that authorities at the time claimed would have involved thousands of slaves in Charleston and at nearby plantations.

They plotted to kill slaveholders, free their slaves, and then set sail for Haiti — where blacks had thrown off their enslavers in 1804.

The slave revolt was planned for June 17, 1822 – the same day that a gunman walked into Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church and opened fire on a prayer service.

Vesey, who purchased his freedom in 1799 but was unable to do the same for his wife and children, had helped found the church in 1816 – and the congregation quickly swelled to more than 1,800 members and was closed twice in its first six years for violating the state’s stringent slave laws.

The carpenter and his co-conspirators were accused of meeting at the church to plot the rebellion, and city officials tipped off by slaves ordered a militia to arrest Vesey and others just before the revolt was supposed to begin.

Vesey, whose slave name had been Telemaque, and five others were quickly found guilty in a secret trial and condemned to death – and the men were hanged days later, on July 2, 1822.

Panicked whites executed nearly 30 more slaves that month following secret trials by the city-appointed Court of Magistrates and Freeholders – which tried 131 men through August of that year.

Local militia and federal troops were called in to crack down on widespread demonstrations by angry slaves and free blacks.

In response to the demonstrations and criticism from the governor, the court issued An Official Report of the Trials of Sundry Negroes, which serves as the only real record of Vesey’s life and the alleged plot that led to even more brutal treatment of slaves.

Both Charleston and South Carolina responded to the alleged plot by further restricting the meager rights of free blacks and slaves.

Many historians believe that Charleston’s mayor, James Hamilton Jr., and other officials exaggerated the scale of the rebellion to end what he believed to be softer, paternalistic treatment of slaves.

Hamilton blamed the revolt on black Christianity, in general, and the AME African Church, specifically – and city officials ordered the congregation to disband and the church burned down.

The congregation continued to meet until all-black churches were outlawed in 1834, although they continued to meet in secret until the Civil War ended, and eventually built a new church building in 1891.

In response to white fears of slave rebellion, the state legislature passed the Seaman’s Act – which required the imprisonment of free black sailors on ships that docked in Charleston, which was a majority slave city until the Civil War and remained majority black until the 20th Century.

The law was struck down by a federal court as unconstitutional because it violated a U.S. treaty with Britain, sparking resentment over federal usurpation of state’s rights.

Charleston asked the state to set up an armed force to protect white residents from its majority black population, and the state built the South Carolina State Arsenal – which eventually came to be known as The Citadel.

Vesey became a hero to anti-slavery activists, and Frederick Douglass used his name to recruit blacks to the U.S. Colored Troops during the Civil War.

A statue honoring Vesey was erected in Charleston last year.

[Luther Blissett]

I can’t wrap my head around this they will dig up any dirt regardless how irrelevant on victims of color but refuse to bring up the literal motive behind what we all know was a hate crime! Everyday people are finding this information why the fuck isn’t it on the news ????!!!!!!!!

For all the white people saying they’re “waiting for a motive” foh

Right!!! Always talkin bout some “Wait for the facts”
????
Fact: he is a fucking white supremacist
Fact: he premeditated killing 10 black people in a church
What the fuck more do y'all want?!?!??!??????!!!

[Wombaticus Rex]

What's the other flag?

[semper occultus]

...Rhodesia...post UDI...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Rhodesia

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‘Fox & Friends’ frames Charleston church massacre as attack on Christians

[Luther Blissett]

There has been a second shooting at a black church in Memphis, but police are saying they are unrelated. I don't believe there were any injuries.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Rhodesia, of course. Should have guessed just off the first sigil, what other country would they invoke?

Some background from Africa is a Country

White supremacist terrorists are always constructed as isolated individuals who are not part of a general culture that encourages terrorist acts towards the “other” – be they immigrants, African-Americans, women. Their actions are largely explainedto be the result of mental-illness, and never carried out as part of a group or collective action. We do not wish to take responsibility for collective actions, and the general culture of white supremacy encouraged by the likes of Sean Hannity on television, Rush Limbaugh on the radio, and countless pastors on their church podiums.

A commonplace explanation why the likes of Dylann Roof shouldn’t be termed “terrorists” is that their violence isn’t political since it isn’t tied to a broader ideological agenda. In Roof’s case, the photograph of him sporting a jacket embroidered with the flags of Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia shows this is nonsense. Like the Norwegian mass-murderer Anders Breivik, Roof clearly understood himself to be fighting for a political cause — white supremacism.

But Roof is by no means the first white American to find common cause with racist colonial regimes in Africa. That connection goes back a long way, and runs right from the top of the federal government to key figures in South Carolina politics.

Much is being made in the media of Roof’s interest in white supremacists in Africa. The danger is that this draws our attention away from all the good ol’ white supremacy in his very own state.

The white supremacist emblems on the terrorist’s shirt match the white supremacist emblem flying above the state capital of South Carolina, today as every day. Many people root the rise of the white, republican South Africa to the invention of the Dixiecrat party by South Carolina’s own Strom Thurmond, an arch-segregationist (with the typical secret mixed-race offspring) who ardently defended the apartheid South Africa government from the attacks of godless integrationists through the 1980s.

The Rhodesian and Apartheid South Africa solidarity from the US goes back to the rise of the new right in the late 70s and in particular the rise of Reagan and the onset of the ‘second’ or new Cold War in the 1980s. Apartheid South Africa was portrayed as an outpost of Western values and civilisation against a sea of communist blacks in Angola, Zimbabwe and Mozambique in particular.

Much money was channelled through libertarian and right-wing thinktanks and groups, by both the American government and the apartheid government, to fund a PR campaign aimed at creating sympathy for whites under siege in South Africa and those left in Rhodesia (soon, it was imagined, to become a communist dictatorship). In particular there was a focus on elevating Jonas Savimbi and Unita into anti-communist freedom fighters, and later the IFP as a moderate pro-capitalist alternative to the communist ANC.

This type of thinking was typical of Jeane Kirkpatrick, a key neo-conservative ‘intellectuals’ and America’s UN ambassador from 1981-1985. Kirkpatrick’s infamous distinction was between ‘authoritarian’ and ‘totalitarian’ regimes. ‘Authoritarian’ regimes were anti-communist and pro-capitalist and thus considered an outpost of liberty. This includes the regimes in central america, Pinochet era Chile and of course apartheid South Africa. So-called ‘Totalitarian’ regimes were understood as the tools of the Soviets and had to be crushed at all costs, such as the MPLA in Angola, post-revolutionary Mozambique and of course South Africa’s own ANC.

The coalition behind this policy framework included people on the evangelical right, such as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwall, who also are implicated in pro-apartheid preaching.

Money was channelled in particular to the Young Republicans and many future big names like Jack Abramoff made their political bones by doing propaganda work for the apartheid state. Many future republican bigwigs like Dick Cheney were very vocal in their support of apartheid as were southern politicians like Jessie Helms. If one trawls through the archives of such publications as Reason and National Review one does not have to look far for examples of pro-apartheid propaganda. Thomas Frank chronicles a lot of this stuff quite well.

Zimbabwe was viewed as a symptom of post-Vietnam weakness — abandoned to the Communists, because the West didn’t have the balls to take on Communism after Vietnam. The siege mentality in many respects parallels that of the Southern plantation class post-Civil War, which eventually gave rise to the KKK, i.e. our way of life and our womenfolk are under siege by a sea of blacks trying to take our ill-gotten gains.

The Republicans later pretended not to have taken such reactionary stances on apartheid, but the influence of all this propaganda remained, later enhanced by a wave of reactionary expatriates leaving South Africa and Zimbabwe and makes homes in the South. They set up their own websites and genocide-watch bullshit, spreading myths about the Boer genocide, later enhanced by Zanu-PF’s land reform policies. In this they made links to the militia movement, websites like Stormfront and the fringes of the American right, many so-called libertarians and paleo-conservatives as well as Zionist trolls like Pamela Geller.

Trawling the fringes of the internet, you find a lot of stuff connecting South Africa and Zimbabwe to the American experience, seen as examples of what happens when the government betrays whites to blacks who are then said to inflict savage violence on whites and destroy civilization. This stuff is found increasingly on the mainstream right these days, particularly with the rise of the Tea Party — but really they’re only tapping into a long tradition within white American conservatism.

Gonna re-watch Blood in the Face this weekend, methinks.

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My first question upon watching the "news" was who cut his hair last. It was recently cut/groomed obviously. Thus who cut his hair?

[tapitsbo]

also bowl cut strangeness (echoes of beatles and other RI figures)

[justdrew]

I don't think its business as usually anymore folks.

EVERYONE needs to start protecting themselves, or we are going to see many more massacres like this.

It war is what it is.

[justdrew]

“You rape our women and you’re taking over our country — and you have to go,” the terrorist said, according to a survivor.

It would be a damn shame if someone went and killed trump. or would it?

[coffin_dodger]

also bowl cut strangeness

Standard trim for banjo-players.

[Lord Balto]

“You rape our women and you’re taking over our country — and you have to go,” the terrorist said, according to a survivor.

It would be a damn shame if someone went and killed trump. or would it?

According to The Young Turks last night, Trump paid actors $50 @ to come to his event and pretend to be his supporters. He's really the sad little rich kid whose parents have to buy him friends. Killing him would just remove one clown from the Republican clown car. I think it's time to start giving these candidates psych screenings and IQ tests. Prevent the psychos from running and publish their IQ rankings.