Maybe I'm the only one who really benefited from this thread and maybe that's why I'm not bitter -- I feel lighter than I have in years.
Cordelia wrote:I greatly appreciated the information and insight provided in this thread and glad to have participated in its discordant chorus. I suspect the final curtain hasn't dropped, but if it has, Hallelujah.
Now I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this
The fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing Hallelujah
Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you to a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah
You say I took the name in vain
I don't even know the name
But if I did, well really, what's it to you?
There's a blaze of light
In every word
It doesn't matter which you heard
The holy or the broken Hallelujah
I did my best, it wasn't much
I couldn't feel, so I tried to touch
I've told the truth, I didn't come to fool you
And even though it all went wrong
I'll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah
lunarmoth » Mon May 23, 2016 11:49 pm wrote: Isn't that catharsis? I know guruilla doesn't believe in catharsis, but I've felt it therefore I do.
Q: I was curious about a lyric on "Nevermind," "There's truth that lives and there's truth that dies."
A: "There's truth that lives and truth that dies. I don't know which, so never mind. There is no need that this survive, there's truth that lives and truth that dies." It's one of those phrases that resonates in some corner of the heart. And I don't think it serves us well to explain it or to analyze it or to interpret it. It sounded right to me. There are certain truths that are in a dormant stage that you can't always locate or be nourished by. But they're there.
Cordelia » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:14 am wrote:fwiw.....
1971's darkly brilliant 'McCabe & Mrs. Miller' was L. C. 101 for some baby-boomers (can't remember the film without the music and vice versa) and introduction to Leonard Cohen and Robert Altman.
"Some people don’t like the way he uses Leonard Cohen songs in this film? Because that is crazy talk. Not too many films use the one-artist-for-the-whole-soundtrack approach—Harold And Maude comes to mind first—because that means living in the tone set by that artist for the entire film. But Cohen is perfect here: yearning, fatalistic, weary, but never quite defeated".........."The film is unimaginable to me without the Cohen songs, which function as these mournful interstitials that unify the entire movie."
https://thedissolve.com/features/movie- ... leonard-c/
Robert Altman was a maverick and an iconoclast who turned a number of genres on their heads. M*A*S*H was an antiwar comedy; The Long Goodbye was a new version of a film noir; Popeye was certainly not your typical family film based on a cartoon character. And of course there's McCabe & Mrs. Miller, a "revisionist Western" that replaces the customary climactic shootout with a sequence where the hero sneaks around and hides, trying to stay out of it. Everything about McCabe & Mrs. Miller was different from the Westerns people had grown up with, which might account for why it was commercially unpopular at the time. Its reputation improved, though, and now it's considered one of Altman's best. Here are some behind-the-scenes facts to enhance your enjoyment...
13. ALTMAN MIGHT HAVE BEEN SUBCONSCIOUSLY INFLUENCED BY LEONARD COHEN.
The director bought the Songs of Leonard Cohen album in 1967, listened to it frequently, fell in love with it ... and then forgot about it. By his own account, two years later he was in Paris, thinking about McCabe, for which he already knew he didn't want a traditional orchestral musical score. A friend played the Leonard Cohen album, and Altman said, "That's the music!" He immediately reached out to Cohen to get permission to use a few of the songs, which fans of the film know are eerily appropriate. Altman had heavily revised Brian McKay's screenplay, and Cohen's lyrics must have seeped into his brain. "It was uncanny how the lyrics of those songs fit the film," Altman said. "I think subconsciously, that must have been in my head."
http://mentalfloss.com/article/82145/13 ... mrs-miller
“Leonard Cohen dead 2016” : Singer killed by internet death hoax
News of singer Leonard Cohen’s death spread quickly earlier this week causing concern among fans across the world. However the November 2016 report has now been confirmed as a complete hoax and just the latest in a string of fake celebrity death reports. Thankfully, the singer best known for hit songs like Hallelujah or Suzanne is alive and well.
Rumors of the singer’s alleged demise gained traction on Wednesday after a ‘R.I.P. Leonard Cohen’ Facebook page attracted nearly one million of ‘likes’. Those who read the ‘About’ page were given a believable account of the Canadian singer’s passing:
“At about 11 a.m. ET on Wednesday (November 09, 2016), our beloved singer Leonard Cohen passed away. Leonard Cohen was born on September 21, 1934 in Montreal. He will be missed but not forgotten. Please show your sympathy and condolences by commenting on and liking this page.”
Hundreds of fans immediately started writing their messages of condolence on the Facebook page, expressing their sadness that the talented 82-year-old singer, songwriter, musician and poet was dead. And as usual, Twittersphere was frenzied over the death hoax.
Where as some trusting fans believed the post, others were immediately skeptical of the report, perhaps learning their lesson from the huge amount of fake death reports emerging about celebrities over recent months. Some pointed out that the news had not been carried on any major Canadian network, indicating that it was a fake report, as the death of a singer of Leonard Cohen's stature would be major news across networks.
A recent poll conducted for the Celebrity Post shows that a large majority (77%) of respondents think those Leonard Cohen death rumors are not funny anymore.
On Thursday (November 10) the singer's reps officially confirmed that Leonard Cohen is not dead. “He joins the long list of celebrities who have been victimized by this hoax. He's still alive and well, stop believing what you see on the Internet,” they said.
Some fans have expressed anger at the fake report saying it was reckless, distressing and hurtful to fans of the much loved singer. Others say this shows his extreme popularity across the globe.
http://en.mediamass.net/people/leonard- ... hhoax.html
guruilla » Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:10 pm wrote:It seems that Leonard did not make it through whatever vortex we just went through. RIP Leonard Cohen. You wanted it darker...
At the risk of being callous, it will be interesting to see what, if anything, comes to light now that he is gone.
I heard a eulogy yesterday on AM radio yesterday. Leonard's family stated that Leonard kept himself alive because he had to be sure Trump won the election before he could go.