Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby guruilla » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:02 pm

backtoiam » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:31 pm wrote:
guruilla » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:11 pm wrote:
Elvis » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:39 pm wrote:"Fame almost drove Barry Manilow to suicide" -- interesting headline in the context of this thread. Probably nothing.

That gave me a good laugh, thanks.

On consideration, maybe a clue of how fame affects the psyche and/or the sort of diamond-hardening a person has to go through to survive it?

Maybe mediocre musicians are more sane?


Having witnessed it first hand from the inside I can testify to the fact that dealing with sudden fame and fortune is very difficult regardless of the fact if you came from a very connected family or you came from a nobody.

A good friend of mine came from a family of nobody and became one of the most famous entertainers in the business. It it messed with his head so bad he was losing touch with reality. Garth Brooks told my friend, "son, this is like hanging on to the tail of a rocket, put your helmet on, hang on for dear life."

He said that one sentence kept him from freaking out. I agree. I was there.

However, coming from a very "connected" family is a whole other level of insanity that the nobody famous people cannot comprehend, but sometimes learn about, but only by association.

Well this is an interesting post, if a bit of a baited one. So now we have two post-ers with direct experience of celebrity depravities/degradations. I guess three, if we count my brother.

Here's the question that seems to be forever on my mind. I have always believed that it was possible, for me, to tell when someone was a basically kind or decent person or not. Looking at politicians helped to cement this belief: they were so obviously corrupt, look how ugly they are! Then when I started to discover/suspect what I now know about Hollywood and the entertainment industry, it shifted to, well, of course someone can look like a wholesome person and still be up to no good, but I can still tell the good ones ~ if only by their eyes! (Or their creative output.) Of course eventually I had to admit that, no I can't necessarily "tell the good ones," because, what's the control? How do I know if I am guessing right?

So now every time I watch a movie or TV show & find myself liking an actor, my mind goes to, I wonder if they [insert unspeakable act] for fun? Surely not!

So the question is, how do people like AD who have known someone and seen them to be kind, intelligent, loving people (LC) and then discovered, maybe, that they were involved in acts of apparent evil, feel about this? Does it relate to DID multiple-personalities? Glamor magic? The clean consciences of psychopaths? Or something else?

Regarding the difference mentioned above between family-connected sociopaths entertainers and those plucked from the unwashed masses to become royalty, wouldn't the latter still be required to go through the Nightmare at Elm Guest-House-style "hazing" rituals anyway? So how would that be any less deranging, I wonder?

Also, there are many family lines that are buried to the point that even their members may not be aware of them. J. Savile may be an example of a bloodline that fell on hard times. Possibly my own family too.
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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby brekin » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:15 pm

backtoiam wrote:
guruilla » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:11 pm wrote:
Elvis » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:39 pm wrote:"Fame almost drove Barry Manilow to suicide" -- interesting headline in the context of this thread. Probably nothing.

That gave me a good laugh, thanks.

On consideration, maybe a clue of how fame affects the psyche and/or the sort of diamond-hardening a person has to go through to survive it?

Maybe mediocre musicians are more sane?


Having witnessed it first hand from the inside I can testify to the fact that dealing with sudden fame and fortune is very difficult regardless of the fact if you came from a very connected family or you came from a nobody.
A good friend of mine came from a family of nobody and became one of the most famous entertainers in the business. It it messed with his head so bad he was losing touch with reality. Garth Brooks told my friend, "son, this is like hanging on to the tail of a rocket, put your helmet on, hang on for dear life."

He said that one sentence kept him from freaking out. I agree. I was there.
However, coming from a very "connected" family is a whole other level of insanity that the nobody famous people cannot comprehend, but sometimes learn about, but only by association.


Yes, entertainers from already "connected" families are an interesting animal. Cohen could be one, certainly. But I've always thought Harry Connick Jr, son of Harry Connick Sr, the DA that defeated Jim Garrison as New Orleans District Attorney (and obviously didn't share his views on the JFK assassination) and later was found liable for withholding evidence in numerous murder cases that would have exonerated those already executed or to be executed seemed to have some pretty freaky roots from his old man. I don't know if he's any good music wise (kind of 90's crooner thing I guess?) but he was damn popular for awhile from what I remember and his biggest acting roles seemed to be playing psychos. I wonder how much that is a stretch though? In William Friedkins new memoir he talks about how he was chatting with Connick Jr's wife, and Connick suddenly went all cold and (I almost said reptilian but realize on this site could be taken literally by some, so we'll just say sinister instead) and snapped, "Hey Bill, don't you think you've been talking to wife long enough?" Friedkin (no shrinking violet himself) was so taken aback with the malice, started to apologize, when Connick on a dime turned around and said he was just joshing and that Friedkin should put him in one of his movies. Which he did, putting him in Bug where he plays I guess a psychotic abusive husband.
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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby lunarmoth » Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:21 am

It's not surprising, when you consider the military's connections to the music industry and its vast interest in propaganda after the WW2, that our entertainers would be chosen from among the programmed.

I'm by no means an expert on Hollywood (I have lived in Los Angeles, and rode my bike around East Arlington and other non-white neighbourhoods) but I used to cycle over to Larchmont and sit in the juice bar. I always found the white people robotic.

One thing I've noticed lately (from chatting with people who know people in Hollywood, is how the same names constantly come up, suggesting it's actually a tiny world. Or maybe its a world composed of very tight and exclusive circles. A world so small would be easily controllable

Is anyone following the Randy Quaid saga? Turns out (until last.week) he and partner were living in Montreal on avenue Dr. Penfield - a stone's throw from the Allan Memorial.

A very small world. Is anyone else a little mystified by that?
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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:47 pm

I am not mystified by that, it is why i was so interested in joel van der reijden's site, which, while not perfect by any means, does illustrate how tiny groups can get their fingers in a lot of different pies.

One project that is still unfinished would be a more thorough investigation of the connections of 20th century philosophers and social scientists.

It is fascinating to find examples of the abundant resoirces which openly discuss social engineering.
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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby guruilla » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:05 pm

From Prisoner of Infinity, chap 10 (PDF):

I was beginning to think there was a simple, if unorthodox, reason why the usual suspects—Aleister Crowley, Polanski, Manson, the Kennedys, the Process, Charles Whitman, David Bowie, Nic Roeg, Jimmy Savile, Stanley Kubrick, William Sims Bainbridge, L. Ron Hubbard, Aldous Huxley, Gurdjieff, and now Whitley Strieber!—kept cropping up wherever I seemed to look. For all the billions of people on the planet (allegedly at least), were there only a few hundred, at best, who had any sort of visible role in the grand theater unfolding before the public eye? And of course they would all hang out together, formally or otherwise, literally or not, because they were in the same business—that of socio-spiritual engineering or “culture-making.” It might seem like world history was far too vast and complex a meta-organism to be reduced to a handful of players, but was that just part of the illusion? Actors on stage exist in a world of their own, complete unto itself, while the audience exists in a kind of limbo realm, having no say about how the story unfolds. Even so, their attention was essential to the maintenance of the illusion. The audience is complicit in its own irrelevance—it has to “disappear” from the scene in order for the surrogate reality to take full hold.
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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby lunarmoth » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:13 pm

Re: philosophers and social scientists, here's a blog I enjoyed that goes into that huge topic:https://mikemcclaughry.wordpress.com/the-reading-library/scientology/scientology-roots/scientology-roots-chapter-twenty-one-the-first-scientologists-and-their-masters/

And for the small-worlders here: it really has to be about money. You can't be much of a writer or artist without it. Everyone knows that. So writers and artists form gangs and elbow one another for immortality. The best- (actually, worst-) connected float to the top and stay there. The others are soon killed off or starved out.

I've become more aware of late that many of my profs at university were "cult members" who promoted cult literature to us students. And allegedly Tavistock bought certain writers to push their 20th century themes, e.g. suicide, which the social engineers determined should be fashionable, given the overpopulation that preoccupied their masters . Well, look at Hollywood and what it promotes: slavery war and all the illusory ways of mastering death and destruction
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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:21 pm

:thumbsup Thanks for the link, scientology, or more accurately scientology/cult criticism has been a long time hobby. I had missed that one somehow.
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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby guruilla » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:10 pm

Not directly related but something I think RI-ers will be interested in:


CONTROLLING INTERESTS (WITH GARY HEIDT)
Part one of conversation with musician, conceptual artist, and literary agent Gary Heidt, on the authority of the cat, agents as necessary evil, an anomaly among agents, reaching an impasse, CIA controlling interests in publishing, setting the tone among the literati, changing editors, the single controlling node of Sessalee Hensley, pushing a bourgeoisie sensibility, domestic realism, what being a writer means, fiction as an aid to a fugue state, fiction as ethical experimentation, the liminal space of writing, becoming a messenger to oneself, authors with intelligence affiliations, writing as channeling, timesharing on one mind, different stations within the psyche, Gertrude Stein, James Joyce, and language experimentation, Tender Buttons, Stein’s salon and the control circle, Henry James and automatic writing, Stein’s childhood abuse, mass graves in Ireland, communicating in code, keeping secrets from oneself, pain barriers and compartmentalized psyches, as within so without, child porn in the pentagon, what you can’t talk about in the mainstream, the CIA & the Cultural Cold War, the best writers in the US are not published, suppressing the voices, a bubble of innocence, Jonathan Franzen and the smug voice, The Counselor, Breaking Bad, and ironic detachment, reframing sociopathy as heroism, The Searchers, The Century of the Self and Edward Bernays, controlled democracy, RCA and mass media monopolies, David Sarnoff and psy-ops, the imposition of language, ruling class newspeak, Henry Luce, CIA as creation of Wall St, slanted language, the sociopathic loner of existentialism, existentialist materialism, Husserl’s phenomenology, the ground of consciousness, Heidegger’s reversal, consciousness as byproduct of history, is the world already there (The Matrix), the false dichotomy of fiction and nonfiction, Donald Kalsched’s The Inner World of Trauma, autonomous fragments, fiction writing to access the unconscious, drinking and self-annihilation, Gary’s upbringing in Texas, NASA, CIA black-ops and suicide cults, Bush and the oil industry, the deep state, European hereditary elites, Whitley Strieber engineered messenger, creating the context for truth, going David Icke, Fabianism in the family
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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby guruilla » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:47 pm

I figured it was only a matter of time before Cohen & Diamond's secret history intersected with my own and that of the Yorkshire Fabian Progressive Schooling Nexus. In fact, there was an early indication when AD mentioned a detail about LC's short-term girlfriend Rebecca deMornay (to whom he dedicated The Future). Apparently RdM told LC-biographer Sylvie Simmons that Cohen remembered seeing her as a child in a British Free School, which AD thought might be perhaps Summerhill, and that, when they met again years later, she did not remember their meeting.

I had not heard the phrase "Free School" before AD mentioned it, but here's a description: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_school_(England) Nor had I heard of Summerhill, but it turns out it was one of the two or three main prototypes for this (Fabian) schooling model, along with my own Abbotsholme. (See this French book for example: http://www.worldcat.org/title/mouvement ... /716096761)

So I'm cross-posting this latest from Occult Yorkshire thread because the obvious overlap with the material here is so pronounced I wasn't sure which thread was a better home for it. With a little addendum to directly link all this to LC.

guruilla wrote:From work-in-progress:

Rock and roll (as well as dandyism) also overlapped with the “back to the roots” Fabian schooling movement (“a mixture of Freud and Red Indians,” remember). An important member of the Braziers Park community, for example, was Glynn Faithfull, who met Glaister through the Order of Woodcraft Chivalry. Faithfull had been an academic at the University of Liverpool, studied the Italian renaissance, and worked for MI6 during World War II. He was married to Baroness Eva Erisso, a former ballerina, and their daughter was the singer and actress Marianne Faithfull. According to Marianne’s second memoir (Memories, Dreams, Reflections, curiously the same title as Jung’s autobiography), Glynn Faithfull was the person called in to interrogate Heinrich Himmler after Himmler surrendered himself to the US government on realizing that the Nazis would be defeated. It was Faithfull who allegedly failed to search Himmler well enough to find a cyanide capsule on his person, thereby allowing Himmler to allegedly take his own life (and be buried in an unmarked grave somewhere). A curious enough little tale, even before noting that this happened during the same period in which, via Operation Paperclip, leading Nazis were being incorporated into the OSS, soon to become the CIA.

Marianne was born the following year, and by her own account she moved to Braziers Park when it first began, in 1950 (she was four), and lived there until she was seven. In her first memoir (Marianne: An Autobiography), she describes recurring nightmares of “frightening entities” who were “just like my father,” strange men with moustaches who would tickle her and pour hot tea over her. “Every year” she writes, “we took deprived children on an annual camping holiday to the New Forest”—there to participate in “quasi-mystical” rituals. (Faithfull: An Autobiography, by Marianne Faithfull, Cooper Square Press, 2000, p. 6-7, see here.)

Faithfull reminisces in Memories, Dreams, Reflections:

“Things were madder, wilder, more eccentric, more randy, in the early years—some of the things that went on there were quite peculiar. . . . They appeared to be studying Dante and the Destiny of Man, but what they were also doing was fucking like rabbits—with what were technically the wrong people. . . . There was sex going on everywhere at Braziers. Not exactly an entirely happy and positive experience for a kid, I guess. . . . The mixture of high utopian thought and randy sex might seem incongruous but it was very much of its time—the 1950s—and an uncanny harbinger of the heady free-love, let’s change the world vibe of the sixties. It was the fifties, the intellectual, Bertrand Russell-ish fifties, when Braziers began and there were all these ideas—grand, world-mending ideas, small groups of people isolating themselves from the big bad world to study Big Ideas, ideas about the Nature of Man, the foundations of civilization, the complexities of communicating ideas. Along with the metaphysical deliberations came experiments in group consciousness. This combo—shagging and Schopenhauer—was as rampant at Braziers as it is in the novels of Iris Murdoch. [My father] was a philosopher of the group mind, almost a technician of group dynamics—how to deal with ego within the group.” (Memories, Dreams, Reflections, by Marianne Faithfull, HarperCollins, 2007, p. 135-6, 141-2.)

Further along, in a chapter titled “The Girl Factory,” Faithfull describes meeting the Italian writer and publisher Roberto Calasso, whom she describes as “an archeologist of myths.” When Faithfull told Calasso about her childhood at Braziers, she recounts, Calasso compared it to a story by the playwright Frank Wedekind, called Mine-Haha. Mine-Haha is about a vast girls’ school located inside a castle, where unwanted females are raised from infancy to the age of sixteen, “a sort of geisha finishing school where they are brought up to please others.” At the age of sixteen, these girls are either placed into show business or prostitution. Faithfull responds to Calasso by insisting, “nobody forced me to go to London and become a pop singer. Tempted me, definitely, seduced me into it, but I wasn’t actually compelled to become a pop singer, whereas the girls in the castle are made to become performers with whips and torture.” Calasso’s response is that he finds it strange how Faithfull “grew up in a similarly cloistered place . . . and at the age of seventeen . . . burst out into the world, trained, in a strange way, for all sorts of things—group politics, sex, books, dance, acting, singing—that were useful to you in your career.” Faithfull agrees that the “group mind concept my father taught at Braziers must have helped me a lot in fitting in. Probably why I fitted in so easily with the Stones.”

“Before the girls are sent out into the world,” Faithfull writes, “they’re examined head to toe, internally, externally, the whole thing. It’s really perverse. Anyway, none of that happened to me, obviously.” Why obviously, I wonder? Faithfull winds up the chapter by mentioning an Italian dance troupe (Gruppo Polline) who created a performance piece based on Mine-Haha, the themes of which were, “The persistence of memory, isolation, the hesitation about the future, alternating static and frenetic, and the negation of the body as a result of an education based on theories and exploitation of the young” (emphasis added). She then adds that she wrote the song “In the Factory” with Polly Harvey, inspired by one of Calasso’s essays. She had wanted to call it “The Girl Factory,” she says, but Harvey talked her out of it. Faithfull regretted the change, but added that Polly was “quite intimidating.” (Memories, Dreams, Reflections; this series of quotes from “The Girl Factory,” p. 218-222.)

Marianne Faithfull met Mick Jagger sometime at the start of her music career in 1964-5, and he wrote her first hit, “As Tears Goes By,” for her (though they didn’t become a couple until 1966). Jagger was just fresh out of the London School of Economics, having got a grant to study there in late 1961 and staying on through to 1963. This two-year period was the same period in which the Stones were first formed and grew into a known act, soon to become “the vanguard of British rock and roll.” Before this Jagger had been working in a psychiatric institution called Bexley Hospital in the summer of 1961, where, by his own account, he learned invaluable lessons about human psychology, as well as losing his virginity to a nurse. (Mick Jagger by Phillip Norman, ebook here.)

According to the official story, Jagger ran into old schoolmate Keith Richards “coincidentally” on a train platform in 1961, on his way to LSE, and the rest is history. There’s a well-known anecdote about how Jagger kept on studying to be an accountant even while the Stones were taking off, just in case it should turn out to be a flash in the pan. What’s considerably less well-known (in fact it’s hard to corroborate, my only source so far is the singer Sally Stevens) is that, besides giving Jagger a grant, LSE also bankrolled the Stones in 1963. Stevens reports a conversation from that year with Derek Bell, Gertrude Stein’s nephew:

“From what I recall of the ensuing conversation, during their first year, students at LSE were allowed to write a grant proposal for project funding from LSE. According to Derek, Mick had written a good grant proposal, using the Rolling Stones as his business model, and asking for financial aid to buy equipment so they could improve their stage sound. Of course, not one member of the Board, including Derek, had much of an idea about the financial soundness of rock music, though obviously it was becoming an economic powerhouse, and they’d sort of heard of the Beatles, but when it came to the niceities[sic] of the business, LSE needed an expert opinion, in this case, me. The Board wanted to know if the Stones had any future, and I was able to say I thought so, based on what I was seeing. Would they be a good risk? ‘Er - yes,’ quoth the expert. So, Mick got some grant money from LSE which he bought gear with, after which he gave LSE the salute, and took off for the sky.”
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And the addendum:

Since 1960, Leonard Cohen has owned a house in Hydra, while the Rolling Stones and Pink Floyd used to regularly spend their vacation on the famous Greek island.

http://greece.greekreporter.com/2014/09 ... B5OSo.dpuf
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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby lunarmoth » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:40 am

Heard terrible news last night: Dave McGowan is very near the end
This is really devastating ... even though we saw it coming.
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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby lunarmoth » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:28 am

I don't know much about "dandyism" as it seems to be an elaborate throwback to a bygone era, hard to maintain in pre-2012 Olympics London. It seems the true Satanists love to present a squeaky clean facade to fool the pubic as when Jian Gomeshi (whose name I love to misspell) interviewed your brother for QTV, and envy was palpable behind his CBC facade, which we now know was a cover for violent sadism (I dont think your brother was a sadist - likely the opposite at least in that interview he appeared vulnerable.) The envy and irony also evident when Ghomeshi interviewed Leonard Cohen at his home in Montreal, and congratulated him on his recent concerts in Mo9se Jaw - this was after Cohen had been playing soldout concerts across Europe and the UK. Canadian media based in Toronto thrives on humilation, a master-slave culture we imported from the UK.

That could be why British pop stars, writers and intelligence types so often go to Hydra - an initiatic scene bathed in mystery and light. It's not just to throw themselves off the rocks and into the sea. I have been in the room that Jagger and Faithfull occupied ca. 1967, which is right on the sea - a friend of mine now rents it in the summer.

You cant spend time on Hydra without being initiated or transformed - its not mere hype - the island sits a giant crystal and acts like a giant receiver-transmitter. I was told the energy has darkened recently, turning it more negative. In the 80s it was a place to meet exMI5 and CIA agents and mercenaries, also to drink yourself to death. You could also meet famous artists and sages there. Its connected to Eleusis on the mainland and its mystery cults built around the myth of Persephone - who as a child was abducted by Pluto and taken to Hades - so pedophilia comes into it.

Many facets to examine and also threads to pick apart
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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby General Patton » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:45 am

lunarmoth » Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:28 am wrote:You cant spend time on Hydra without being initiated or transformed - its not mere hype - the island sits a giant crystal and acts like a giant receiver-transmitter. I was told the energy has darkened recently, turning it more negative. In the 80s it was a place to meet exMI5 and CIA agents and mercenaries, also to drink yourself to death. You could also meet famous artists and sages there. Its connected to Eleusis on the mainland and its mystery cults built around the myth of Persephone - who as a child was abducted by Pluto and taken to Hades - so pedophilia comes into it.

Many facets to examine and also threads to pick apart


Have you ever noticed any of these types using crystals elsewhere?

Could elaborate more on these Persephone and Pluto cults?
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Postby guruilla » Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:49 pm

lunarmoth » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:28 am wrote:I don't know much about "dandyism" as it seems to be an elaborate throwback to a bygone era, hard to maintain in pre-2012 Olympics London. It seems the true Satanists love to present a squeaky clean facade to fool the pubic

Like this:

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(I dont think your brother was a sadist - likely the opposite at least in that interview he appeared vulnerable.)

Is a homosexual who likes to take the feminine role less of a homosexual than the one who takes the masculine role? It's called sadomasochism for a reason. He was a great admirer of Marquis de Sade, so a Sadian anyway.

In the 80s it was a place to meet exMI5 and CIA agents.

I was under the impression there was no such thing.

the myth of Persephone - who as a child was abducted by Pluto and taken to Hades - so pedophilia comes into it.

There's no indication that she was a child, rather a virgin princess and an object of great desire.

Persephone used to live far away from the other gods, a goddess within Nature herself before the days of planting seeds and nurturing plants. In the Olympian telling, the gods Hermes and Apollo had wooed Persephone; but Demeter rejected all their gifts and hid her daughter away from the company of the Olympian gods.[71] The story of her abduction by Hades against her will, is traditionally referred to as the Rape of Persephone. It is mentioned briefly in Hesiod's Theogony,[72] and told in considerable detail in the Homeric Hymn to Demeter. Zeus, it is said, permitted Hades, who was in love with the beautiful Persephone, to carry her off as her mother Demeter was not likely to allow her daughter to go down to Hades. Persephone was gathering flowers with the Oceanids along with Artemis and Athena—the Homeric Hymn says—in a field when Hades came to abduct her, bursting through a cleft in the earth.
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Re: Leonard Cohen, Operative? (Ann Diamond material)

Postby lunarmoth » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:51 pm

Good luck hiding your grown-up daughter away from the company of the Olympian gods, in an age when girls married at puberty.

I'm guessing she was about the same age as Alice in Wonderland.

Lots of info here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persephone


On Crete, Persephone was also known as the Snake Goddess, and depicted with bulging eyes and breasts, holding a snake in each hand.

The Eluesinian Mysteries were a goddess (mother and daughter) religion, connected to similar Dionysian cults that practised their rites around Greece and Asian Minor. Artemis (Diana) was also worshipped widely, one reason why Princess Diana's death had so much symbolic impact - it resembled an ancient ritual sacrifice.

I brought up these Goddess cults because they're still around today, and are interrwined with Freemasonry...

As for crystals: Hydra island reportedly sits on a huge crystal, i.e. a crystal mountain. It's one of the places on earth where the crystal layer is closest to the surface.

Re: "true Satanists" - i was thinking more of Prince Charles or David Cameron.

So Saville was a dandy? Was he a feminine type?
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Postby tapitsbo » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:54 pm

and Freemasonry is somehow intertwined with the bloodline/eugenics programs you've written about, isn't it?
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