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elfismiles » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:15 am wrote:should go without saying but ... posting does not equal endorsement:
Student Anti-Gun Activist Featured In CBS News Story – Six Months Ago
Questions swirling around teen activist as odd videos surface
Dan Lyman | Infowars.com - February 20, 2018
https://www.infowars.com/student-anti-g ... onths-ago/
An Alt-Right Troll Is Trying To Dupe Media With A Fake Craigslist Ad Offering Payments For Gun Violence Protesters
By Jared Holt | February 20, 2018 4:55 pm
As part of an ongoing attempt to influence mainstream media reporting surrounding last week’s mass shooting at Florida high school, alt-right trolls appear to have forged a Craigslist ad that purportedly offers to pay gun reform protesters for participating in protests.
But the trolls behind the fake ad made one glaring oversight: They attributed the ad to an organization that doesn’t exist.
The alleged Craigslist ad (which has since been removed) offered between $75 and $100 for participants to “stand for 17 minutes and hold a lightweight cardboard sign” on March 14, when Women’s March organizers are planning a national student protest against gun violence.
The ad claimed to have been posted by a group called “One Common Culture” which does not appear in registry searches of businesses and nonprofits. The address listed on the ad belongs to a California high school.
The ad was first circulated by an alt-right troll known online as “Microchip” who operates a massive bot farm. The user behind “Microchip” has spent all weekend peddling conspiracy theories and attacks on shooting survivors who have publicly spoken out against the Trump administration’s failure to react to gun violence in schools.
Elvis » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:40 pm wrote:elfismiles » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:15 am wrote:should go without saying but ... posting does not equal endorsement:
Student Anti-Gun Activist Featured In CBS News Story – Six Months Ago
Questions swirling around teen activist as odd videos surface
Dan Lyman | Infowars.com - February 20, 2018
https://www.infowars.com/student-anti-g ... onths-ago/
Hm. For days this kid has been pushed at me in headlines with the odd phrase, "Teen torches Trump...." (the new word for "flames"?).
The most curious part is the video of the kid seemingly reciting from a memorized script and possibly being fed lines (embedded below).
Does anyone know who took that video? No station logos or other attribution. In the Comments someone says that it's his father interviewing him.
His father is apparently in the FBI or ex-FBI. Hm.
How rightwing media is already attacking Florida teens speaking out
As students rise up to demand gun control the right aims to take them down, along with anyone who offers them support
Emma González, 18, a senior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, gave an impassioned speech at an anti-gun rally in Fort Lauderdale.
So what is a rightwing media apparatus dedicated to the maintenance of unrestricted access to powerful assault weapons to do?
By and large, the answer has been to attack the students, along with anyone who offers them a platform or any other form of support. The nature of such attack has varied with the self-perceived seriousness of the outlet, but almost the entirety of the right has joined in. Unremitting support for the current interpretation of the second amendment and the advocacy of the NRA is one of the signal issues that unites them.
The sleaziest and most direct attacks on individual students have come from the right’s more conspiratorial fringe. On Jim Hoft’s pro-Trump, conspiracy-minded website, Gateway Pundit, Lucian Wintrich performed a hatchet job on David Hogg, suggesting that he was “heavily coached on lines and is merely reciting a script”. Wintrich once told the Guardian that he learned about the perfidy of the left while attending Bard College. In his new piece, he claimed that because Hogg’s father works for the FBI, he may well be part of a broader anti-Trump conspiracy.
Gateway Pundit has been retweeted by Donald Trump senior and junior in the past, and they were trying their best last year to get White House Press Corps accreditation.
Conspiracy kingpin Alex Jones, who once told Piers Morgan that “1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms,” published a similar attack on his Infowars website. His minions trawled through Hogg’s past, unrelated media appearances, saying that they “raised questions”. The piece then quoted one of their bevy of retired military “experts” who had appeared on Infowars, who repeated the FBI conspiracy theory, claiming that the bureau “has been hiring Social Justice Warriors for years”.
Tyra Heman, a senior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, holds a sign that reads ‘Enough’.
It’s not that Jones doesn’t want to hear from students at all. The site, and Jones show, has highlighted commentary from a witness who claimed that there was a second shooter, and gave a lot of airtime to another who bolstered Jones’s now-reflexive “false flag” take on any given massacre. They just don’t want to hear from any who think that others should be spared the trauma they have endured through some measure of gun control.
Iamwhomiam wrote:The second IW video has been pulled and is no longer available.
Elvis » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:28 pm wrote:Here's another randomly selected YT post of the same footage (this time I downloaded it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHv7kS3Mgzo
He really appears to be trying to remember lines and being coached...what say the RI lens of discernment?
Elvis » 21 Feb 2018 02:28 wrote:Here's another randomly selected YT post of the same footage (this time I downloaded it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHv7kS3Mgzo
He really appears to be trying to remember lines and being coached...what say the RI lens of discernment?
Elvis » 21 Feb 2018 02:19 wrote:Iamwhomiam wrote:The second IW video has been pulled and is no longer available.
YouTube says, "This video has been removed for violating YouTube's policy on harassment and bullying."
I thought YouTube has a backlog of videos to check, they were really 'on the job' with this one.
Elvis » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:54 pm wrote:All of the videos suggesting that Hogg is a shill of some kind are like the one I posted above—"bombshell proof!" I made sure to say that I chose it randomly because I probably don't want to promote any of those YT channels. The video itself is interesting.
Somewhere someone said it's raw footage from a CNN interview, which sounds more likely than the interviewer/videographer being Bogg's father.
Another factor is that Bogg is a student journalist, so he's probably seeing things from the producer's standpoint... "let me try that again so you have good footage (and when it airs, I'll look smarter)."
In his statement to/about Trump and gun control, he obviously and unabashedly reads from cue-cards, which is entirely expected in that situation, but his on-camera style isn't polished.
In general: most "crisis actor" claims, and especially the "hoax!" claims where every mass shooting is "fake," are pretty obviously cuckoo to even normally skeptical observers. But I think it would be a mistake to declare that no form of "deep state" psyops would ever employ tactics using actors to go on camera with bogus eyewitness reports and the like. Given the acknowledged existence of ordinary psyops such as the scripted Jessica Lynch "rescue" video (to name only one example), I think we should always be alert to the possibility.
In regards to issues like this, factional/partisan biases, on all sides, do as much damage to the truth as any spook psyops—and not to ignore the big overlap there.
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