Salon Provides Platform for "Non-Practicing" Pedophile

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Postby Nordic » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:29 pm

Wow these past few comments are fodder for a new thread. As a father trying to raise a son who is aware and not brainwashed to "fit in" to our culture ....
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Postby General Patton » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:06 am

NOT A CONSPIRACY NOT A CONSPIRACY NOT A CONSPIRACY

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/27/the_pedophile_i_could_not_help_he_was_not_a_monster_or_a_molester_the_system_destroyed_him_anyway/

The pedophile I could not help: He was not a monster or a molester. The system destroyed him anyway



He had all-American looks, with a fresh face and delicate, blond hair. Cheerful and intellectually curious, he was interested in topics like computer programming and machine learning. He wanted to understand the physics of the MRI scanner we used.
He was also a pedophile.


He's just like you or me. We're not so different after all.

But Jacob had not touched a child. He had contacted whom he thought was a 10-year-old girl in a chat room and made plans to meet up with her. When he arrived, he discovered he had been corresponding with an undercover police officer, and was arrested for luring a minor.


He was only arranging it, a completely different matter

As for Jacob, his life was essentially over.


Through absolutely no fault of his own.

Research has shown differences in the white matter of pedophiles’ brains, demonstrating that their sexual interest in children is hard-wired and can’t be changed, akin to a sexual orientation.


Science

And the most unfortunate reality is, even when the day comes that he is released from prison, he will still struggle with the same sexual attraction to children, and again find himself in the position of doing so with minimal support in the community.


I'm sure he'll find plenty of support in prison.

I tell friends, colleagues, and strangers I meet (as I believe birthday parties present an excellent opportunity to enlighten people on the matter),


You're daughter just turned 7? That's wonderful, I'll be right over.

when they fail to understand why I am sympathetic towards pedophiles, “How would you feel if you couldn’t ever have sex with anyone? What if you also couldn’t look at the porn you liked because it was illegal, and couldn’t confide in anyone for support?” By this point, most people begin nodding their heads in agreement.


See? When I talk to reasonable progressives they always agree with me. Aren't you a reasonable sympathetic person? *nods head respectfully* Are you some kind of bigot that wants to keep pedophiles from working in schools and daycares? I didn't think so.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:55 am

General Patton » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:06 am wrote:Are you some kind of bigot that wants to keep pedophiles from working in schools and daycares? I didn't think so.


Quite so, my fellow enlightened progressive! Indeed, one is reminded of this simply sterling recent essay from the pages of yon Independent, which persuasively elucidates the benefits of hiring pedophiles into environments full of children:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/not ... 04201.html

Love that framing, too -- "Not All Paedophiles!"

But we need to keep a sense of proportion here. There is a danger of becoming hysterical about paedophilia and seeing it everywhere, like witches at Salem, or “Commies” in Hollywood during McCarthyism. Paedophiles do exist, but there are very few of them and not all are child molesters. It is possible to be attracted to children as a sexual orientation without acting upon those desires.

In my studies of the Paedophile Information Exchange in the 1980s, many members admitted sexual feelings for children which they had been able to contain or turn to social good. Some gravitated toward occupations such as schoolteacher or social worker, where they could enjoy the company of children without plotting abuse. This fitted with personality profiles indicating that they were gentle, rational and not disposed to harm anybody.


It would be absurd, not to mention crass, to imply that author Glenn Wilson has some kind of agenda at work, despite this curious editorial addendum at the end:

This piece was edited on 23 October to remove a reference to victims wanting to "cash in" on episodes of sexual abuse in the past
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Postby zangtang » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:13 pm

very disappointing - used to fly the flag for the Independent. there is a comment below - reader asking why is this the 3rd media outlet pushing 'be kind to paedophile' line?
(also Salon & Gawker)

because there is an agenda?????

is it called normalisation or was that a rational guess? - bet it was conceived/codified in the PR business?

The Telegraph will prolly be next - watching them marshall the troops for 'moral panic', baseless allegations, poor old Heath's reputation, outrageous treatment of Lord Janner etc - has been both saddening
& er.....angrifying

What if it looks and smells like a 'normalisation' agenda, & its going to sidle in alongside the 'Trans' soon-to-be-deafening barrage coming our way?
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Postby General Patton » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:27 pm

I'm waiting for 2 things:

1. Mountains of psychological studies to begin materializing showing that pedophiles have a very positive role in interactions with children. "Are pedophiles better at teaching children because of their ability to relate to them?"

2. People setting up "safe" playdates between their children and "non-practicing" pedophiles.

Then the cosmic cycle of dank memes will close and we will begin anew.

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Postby tapitsbo » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:34 pm

From the latest Salon pedo apology article:

Debra W. Soh is a sex researcher, neuroscientist, and writer at York University in Toronto, Canada. She has contributed to Harper’s, Pacific Standard, Men’s Health, and many others.
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Postby General Patton » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:43 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/1094 ... males.html
'Paedophilia is natural and normal for males'
...
The statement that paedophilia is “natural and normal” was made not three decades ago but last July. It was made not in private but as one of the central claims of an academic presentation delivered, at the invitation of the organisers, to many of the key experts in the field at a conference held by the University of Cambridge.

Other presentations included “Liberating the paedophile: a discursive analysis,” and “Danger and difference: the stakes of hebephilia.”

Hebephilia is the sexual preference for children in early puberty, typically 11 to 14-year-olds.

Another attendee, and enthusiastic participant from the floor, was one Tom O’Carroll, a multiple child sex offender, long-time campaigner for the legalisation of sex with children and former head of the Paedophile Information Exchange. “Wonderful!” he wrote on his blog afterwards. “It was a rare few days when I could feel relatively popular!”
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Postby stickdog99 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:31 pm

I am only attracted to supermodels, but tragically, it is illegal for me to have sex with them because they don't want to.

Where are my corporate media apologists?
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Postby tapitsbo » Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:40 pm

"Sex with children is okay if you educate yourself about intersectionality first"

thoughts? (this latest wave of click-bait would seem pure hoax at first blush, yet I've met many people with the same program irl)
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Postby kool maudit » Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:36 am

The people who are most terrified of a Hitler are fairly determined to build Weimar Berlin.

"If you build it maybe they won't come this time."
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:25 am

General Patton » 03 Dec 2015 11:43 wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/1094 ... males.html
'Paedophilia is natural and normal for males'
...
The statement that paedophilia is “natural and normal” was made not three decades ago but last July. It was made not in private but as one of the central claims of an academic presentation delivered, at the invitation of the organisers, to many of the key experts in the field at a conference held by the University of Cambridge.

Other presentations included “Liberating the paedophile: a discursive analysis,” and “Danger and difference: the stakes of hebephilia.”

Hebephilia is the sexual preference for children in early puberty, typically 11 to 14-year-olds.

Another attendee, and enthusiastic participant from the floor, was one Tom O’Carroll, a multiple child sex offender, long-time campaigner for the legalisation of sex with children and former head of the Paedophile Information Exchange. “Wonderful!” he wrote on his blog afterwards. “It was a rare few days when I could feel relatively popular!”


That telecrap article was in response to this conference:

Classifying Sex: Debating DSM-5

This conference brings together social and political scientists, feminist scholars, sexologists, psychiatrists, historians of science, as well as mental health practitioners and sexual rights activists to critically explore the sexual classifications produced by the 5th edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), published in May 2013. The DSM is the standard reference for the classification of mental disorders, and its first major revision since 1994 is consequently an important global event. The conference will explore which categories of ‘normal’ and ‘abnormal’, ‘healthy’ and ‘pathological’ sexualities and identities the new manual produces, and critically scrutinise their consequences for diagnostic practices as well as their wider social and political implications.



It wasn't actually a conference promoting pedophilia (tho that may be something that happened there).
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Postby elfismiles » Mon May 30, 2016 10:47 am

Monday, May 30, 2016 08:00 AM CDT
The dark side of Hollywood: The secret is out — now the alleged abuse of children must be confronted and investigated
If we continue to discuss Hollywood pedophilia in abstractions, generations more will experience "cyclical" abuse
Brendan Gauthier

Topics: Amy Berg, Corey Feldman, elijah wood, Hollywood, Pedophilia, Working Ahead News, Social News, Media News, Entertainment News
The dark side of Hollywood: The secret is out — now the alleged abuse of children must be confronted and investigated
(Credit: trekandshoot via Shutterstock)

In an interview with the Sunday Times last weekend, “Lord of the Rings” star Elijah Wood became the latest celebrity to cryptically mention the “darkness in the underbelly” of Hollywood’s studio system.

“The tragedy of attempting to reveal what is happening to innocent people,” he said, is that “They can be squashed but their lives have been irreparably damaged.”

Wood walked back those statements in a Hollywood Reporter follow-up on Monday.

“Let me be clear: This subject of child abuse is an important one that should be discussed and properly investigated,” he clarified. “But as I made absolutely clear to the writer, I have no firsthand experience or observation of the topic, so I cannot speak with any authority beyond articles I have read and films I have seen.”

Still, Wood’s revelation is making the rounds and getting deserved attention (especially in the U.K., where Jimmy Savile’s pedophilloic legacy survives him).

Former-child actor Corey Feldman — of “The Two Coreys” fame — corroborated Wood’s claims in his own Hollywood Reporter interview.

Feldman said he “would love to name names,” but “California conveniently enough has a statute of limitations that prevents that from happening. If I were to go and mention anybody’s name, I would be the one that would be in legal problems and I’m the one that would be sued.”

“We should be talking to the district attorneys and the lawmakers in California,” he explained, “especially because this is a place where adults have more direct and inappropriate connection with children than probably anywhere else in the world.”

California’s statute of limitations for childhood sexual abuse presently requires a case to be brought “within eight years of the date the plaintiff attains the age of majority.”

As Feldman explained, childhood sexual abuse is a more pressing concern now than ever “because nowadays you can use the internet to create fake profiles and fake accounts … With social media we have more access than ever to everybody.”

But even if Feldman can’t name names, there have to be victims between the ages of 18 and 26 capable of blowing the whistle on these abuses.

In Bill Cosby’s case, all it took was one woman to come forward for his entire house of cards to fall. Now, at 78, he’s potentially looking at up to a decade behind bars if convicted.

What’s stopping victims of sexual abuse in Hollywood from also speaking out?

Nine years ago, independent documentary filmmaker Amy Berg attended the 79th Academy Awards. Her film, “Deliver Us From Evil” — about Father Oliver O’Grady, a former-Catholic priest and convicted sex offender who admitted to sexually abusing at least 25 children during stints at four churches in California in the ‘70s — was nominated for Best Documentary Feature. Though it received critical acclaim, the film ultimately lost out to “An Inconvenient Truth.”

One would think that with a successful directorial debut on her résumé, Berg wouldn’t have trouble finding producers willing to bankroll her subsequent projects. One would be almost right; Berg has put out four feature-length documentaries since 2006.

Perhaps most noteworthy was “Prophet’s Prey” — a profile of Warren Jeffers, the incarcerated leader of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, who received a life sentence plus 20 years for two counts of statutorily raping minors, aged 12 and 15 — which ran on Showtime early last October.

Another of her documentaries, though, is virtually impossible to watch. “An Open Secret,” Berg’s third documentary — profiling rampant child molestation in Hollywood — effectively ceased to exist after preliminary showings in Seattle and Denver failed to garner even modest momentum.

Ron Rodgers, co-creator of Rocky Mountain Pictures, the film’s distributor, told Deadline Hollywood last June that “An Open Secret” was “In 26 years … the lowest-grossing film we’ve ever had.”

In a 2014 profile in Elle Magazine, Berg explained her frustration with the industry’s indifference to the subject matter.

“I don’t think anyone takes it very seriously. I think the industry has accepted it as an industry standard,” she said. “When it first broke that I had this film, I received phone calls from people way above the people I usually talk to in the studio system, who really loved it. And then I couldn’t get the support on the corporate level. They didn’t want to touch it.”

“It’s shocking how little enforcement or regulation there is about who gets to work with children,” echoes Matthew Valentinas, the film’s co-producer. “Animals have more protections and rights on a film set than children do.”

Worse yet, in researching her subjects over the course of three documentaries and being exposed to every gruesome detail of these cases, Berg has reason to believe child sex abuse is cyclical.

“In my experience, in doing films that have had victims of sexual abuse in the story, the people that are the most recovered are those who speak out about it at a young age and either find justice by reporting their perpetrator or going to get counseling very close to when the incident happened,” Berg said in an interview with Vanity Fair. “There is another life, if you can kind of get that out early enough.”

“Deliver Us From Evil” and “Prophet’s Prey” have provided victims of abuse at the hands of the Catholic Church and FLDS, respectively, an avenue for therapeutic discourse — an avenue specifically denied to child actors who’ve suffered similar abuses at the hands of pedophilloic producers.

Revelations (however small) from Elijah Wood, Corey Feldman, Amy Berg and the like are necessary to shrink the empathy gap between victims of Hollywood pedophilia and the public.

The scale of power in Hollywood should not be so off-balance as to allow pedophiles to operate with total impunity. The time has come to name names. And unless that happens, Hollywood pedophilia will remain as abstract as the “darkness” of an “underbelly.”


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Re: Salon Provides Platform for "Non-Practicing" Pedophile

Postby tapitsbo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:57 pm

is it true that nickerson's articles are gone now?
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Postby barracuda » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:13 pm

tapitsbo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:57 pm wrote:is it true that nickerson's articles are gone now?


Yep. The OP article, "I’m a pedophile, but not a monster" appears to have been scrubbed form Salon.
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Postby RocketMan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:38 am

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2017/02/sa ... book_nymag

Salon Shouldn’t Have Unpublished Its Article by a Pedophile Author

There’s been a lot of talk about pedophilia the last few days. That’s because Milo Yiannopoulos, a right-wing provocateur, lost an important speaking gig and his book deal, and resigned from his day job at Breitbart News, after video of him defending relationships between boys as young as 13 and older men was circulated.

One small but important subplot in all of this centers on Salon, one of the many outlets that covered the controversy. Some critics of the site noted that Salon had taken down an infamous (to them) article about pedophilia, and posited a connection between that act and the Yiannopoulos controversy.
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