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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:52 pm

Slomo, let's look at your five substantive posts on the first page. I think most posters here can agree that in 2002 far more men died in the workplace than women, or that 25 years ago men were 20 times as likely to be executed for the same crime as women. I like that you threw in the one bone about nursing that can be trotted out on other threads. I'm sure you're aware there are plenty of other industry-specific studies which similarly prove the wage gap and refute the CFR member and neoconservative Glenn Kessler ideologically-driven Washington Post piece about the 78¢.

Like, why not take aim at the a) capitalist process that causes unsafe working conditions or b) rampant, by-design inequality that drives men onto the streets, etc?
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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:54 pm

Sounder » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:32 pm wrote:
I still think that these energies would be better spent observing the ways in which women and men of the middle and lower classes and those without power are in the same boat regarding oppression and suppression.


Bingo, I do believe that slomo was trying to make that point by suggesting that these are better framed as being class rather than gender issues.


If this is the case, I definitely had the wrong reading on the thread, and that's mostly coming from Slomo's description of it elsewhere.
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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:45 am

Wombaticus illustrated the contrast between the sannyasas and the sandanistas here, all of whom need each other. I would have guessed that anyone involved in activism for any length of time would have done something with decarceration or ACT UP or any number of issues and causes raised on the first page at some points in their lives. Same goes for the scribes.

The divisiveness feels like some kind of refusal, and it's not the kind of thing you hear very often here other than from the people who sign up in order to disrupt. I think when we get at the core of what the men's rights issues are all about, it's the default positions we're all fighting for already. I know that's true in my case.

Hence why I think the refusal to be concerned or help with issues like campus rape, trans teen suicide, sex trafficking, etc is, well, mean.
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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby 82_28 » Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:23 pm

The right-wing beard revolution: Look out, hipsters, here come the counterculture Christians

In the spring of 2013, Rick Warren, the goateed Baptist preacher, invited the men of his twenty-three-thousand-member Saddleback Church in California to grow facial hair and submit photographs of themselves to win a spot in the finals of a beard contest. In July, Warren himself, identified by many as America’s most influential pastor, would hand out hundred-dollar gift certificates to those with “the most magnificent” and “the most pathetic” beards. The occasion for this “Beardup Saddleback” hoopla was a visit by “Duck Commander” Phil Robertson, the heavily bearded patriarch of the hit reality television series Duck Dynasty and a noted proponent of conservative evangelical piety. After that day’s services, church members were treated to a party featuring Cajun food, zydeco music, a crawfish cooking demonstration, and Duck Dynasty prize giveaways, as well as the beard awards.

The Southern Baptist tradition, of which both Warren and Robertson are a part, has a long history of resistance to male hair. Now, paradoxically, conservatives were eagerly experimenting with this countercultural style. The simplest explanation for this about-face would be that long hair and beards are no longer considered liberal or rebellious, and that the Saddleback beard contest, like the fulsome beards of the Duck Dynasty men, were more stunt than statement. But that answer would only be partly true. Beards, especially large ones, retain their daring and nonconformist quality, and this is an important part of their appeal to conservative as well as liberal men. A generation ago, conservative evangelicals began appropriating rock music into their worship. Now, finally, it is time for hair. Is it possible to be a conservative rebel? Why not? That is precisely what many young American men aspire to be today.

Warren and Robertson have, to a great extent, attained the influence they have by embracing a dynamic and contrarian spirit (along with beards). In the early 1970s, the teenage Rick Warren was the good son of a Baptist preacher who aspired to be a preacher himself, but on his own, decidedly contemporary terms. When he started a Christian club at his high school in 1970, he was guided by the example of the “Jesus Movement,” which adapted the style and expression of the 1960s rock and roll culture to conservative religious sensibilities. Warren looked every bit the Christian John Lennon, long-haired, with wire-rim glasses, soulfully strumming his guitar to contemporary folk rock tunes. His semi-hippie style did not sit well with everyone, however. Still in high school, he appeared before a review committee of his home church to obtain his lay preaching license, the first step toward a career as a Southern Baptist minister. His answers to questions about his salvation experience and doctrinal beliefs were satisfactory, but the senior pastor objected to his appearance. It seemed to him that the gangly young man looked more like a war protester than a Baptist minister.

Warren defended himself; his hair was not a political statement, he said, but a youthful style that would help him connect with people his age. The committee saw his point and granted him a license to preach. In later years, Warren remained committed to presenting a modish California appearance. In the 1980s and 1990s, while building his new church in suburban Los Angeles into one of America’s most successful megachurches, he reduced the length of his hair but added a mustache, and later a goatee. In the 2000s, a closet full of Hawaiian shirts further enhanced his presentation as the laid-back man of God.


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http://www.salon.com/2015/12/25/the_rig ... hristians/
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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby brainpanhandler » Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:28 pm

POTENTIALLY TRIGGERING



Ten-year old Nicolas (Max Brebant) lives an austere and isolated life with his mother in a remote seaside community populated by women and other little boys about his age, but seemingly devoid of adult males. In a hospital overlooking the tempestuous ocean, the boys are all subjected to regular medical treatments — or, perhaps, some mysterious experiment...

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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby semper occultus » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:17 am

Our education system must stop ignoring its bias against boys

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/our-education-system-must-stop-ignoring-its-bias-against-boys/

Mary Curnock Cook, ucas chief executive
5 JANUARY 2016 • 9:33AM

Each time UCAS releases statistics on equality of access to university in the UK, the gap between the entry rates for girls and boys gets a bit worse.

Just before Christmas, our 2015 End of Cycle Report revealed that young women in the UK are now 35pc more likely to go to university than young men, and 52pc more likely when both sexes are from disadvantaged backgrounds.

Today we publish data on the sex balance in specific degree courses, which shows that there are more women than men accepted to most subject areas.

This highly entrenched trend is not just a reflection of the preferences of young men and women when it comes to making decisions about their lives after school or college. It is a direct consequence of years of lower educational achievement by boys, particularly those from disadvantaged backgrounds, throughout primary and secondary education.

At the end of primary education (age 11), only 22pc of boys achieve Level 5 or better in reading, writing and maths compared to 27pc of girls.

By the age of 16, girls are over 20pc more likely to achieve five GCSEs including English and Maths at Grade C or better.

By age 18, only 47pc of students studying for pre-university level qualifications are boys. 30,000 more girls than boys are studying for A levels or other academic qualifications which best support progression to higher tariff universities. Some 5,000 more boys than girls are doing vocational qualifications, but girls are outperforming boys in both academic and vocational qualifications at this level. The only exception seems to be that slightly more of the boys who are doing A levels get the very highest A* grades, and they still do rather better at maths than girls.

Degrees supporting traditionally male-dominated professions such as medicine, law and dentistry now all recruit more female students than male. And move over James Herriot – 80pc of students accepted to veterinary medicine last year were female.

The UCAS figures today also show that there are more women than men across a range of subjects including, pathology and anatomy, biology, genetics, nursing, social work, and English. Two years ago women overtook men in Philosophy, and the same happened with history subjects in 2011. Given that there are more men than women in the population, to achieve equality, there would need to be around 5pc more men than women across the board.

So what is going wrong? Does lower achievement for boys have anything to do with the 80pc female dominated state schools’ workforce, which includes 85pc female teachers in primary schools and 62pc in secondary? Would boys respond and learn better with more male teachers and role models?

In the same way that we promote computer science and STEM careers to women – the group of subjects where women do remain behind – I’d like to see a concerted national campaign to attract men into teaching. Individual universities, like the University of East Anglia and Bath Spa, have taken up the baton by offering taster days, shadowing and support to encourage men to consider teacher training, but more is needed.

What about the curriculum and qualifications? In all the heated debates about the primary curriculum, I don’t recall hearing anything about the different impacts on teaching and learning for girls and boys.

Recent changes to GCSEs and A level assessments have removed most coursework, traditionally seen as girl-friendly, and emphasised end-of-course examinations which may suit male approaches to revision better. But the likely demise of the AS exam in Year 12 removes what was widely seen as a helpful kick up the backside for boys lulled into complacency in their Lower 6th year. A return to the three-A level model is also likely to disadvantage boys, slightly behind the girls on the maturity curve at this stage, who are less likely to be sure of their three strongest subjects.

There is plenty of research about the differences in the male and female brain, hormones, maturity and behaviour, learning styles and preferences, and how these affect educational achievement. But although most schools will track the achievement of their boys and girls, there seems to be little focus on the gender gap in education policy. A recent FOI request by the men’s human rights group, MRA-UK, asked the Department for Education if it recognized boys’ underachievement, what initiatives are in place, and how much is budgeted for them in 2015/16. The response in July 2015 was “The Department does not fund any initiatives that just focus on addressing boys’ underachievement”.

The evidence is clear. Girls are doing better throughout primary, secondary and higher education than boys; poor, white boys are the most disadvantaged group in entry to higher education; and the gap is getting wider. But despite the evidence, despite the press coverage, there has been a deafening policy silence on the issue.

Yes, the focus on white working class boys in the Higher Education Green Paper as part of the wider aim to widen university participation from all under-represented groups is a really important signal of change. But no amount of outreach by universities will work if boys are still too far behind when they come out of secondary education.

Has the women’s movement now become so normalised that we cannot conceive of needing to take positive action to secure equal education outcomes for boys?
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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby KUAN » Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:04 am

Nothing to say about this but I luv it - just got new copy remastered



Mods, move it to a more appropriate thread as needs be...
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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:41 pm

Sprawl being both a virtue, and the primary driver of the text-based synchronicity engine that is Rigorous Intuition, I rule this stays precisely where this was planted. Cheers.

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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby Karmamatterz » Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:45 pm

Let's see how well modern "social constructs" would holdup in anarchy. If you want to trot out Darwin and have socitiety live in arnarchy (extreme left or unicorn communism) then survival of the fittest will always win out and replace your ideological fantasies.
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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:37 am

slomo » 05 Dec 2015 10:55 wrote:I absolutely welcome opposing views -- as long as they are provided with evidence. Here, "evidence" means academic papers or well-research white papers by reasonably well-known sources, or else news articles or blogs that use them as principal sources. These should be reasonably quantitative papers, i.e. not literary criticism or anything else that leans heavily on critical theory, deconstruction, Marxist theory, etc. (or if they do, theoretical statements are backed up by actual data).



A white paper is an authoritative report or guide that informs readers concisely about a complex issue and presents the issuing body's philosophy on the matter.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper

Structural racism is a bitch.

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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:35 am

Karmamatterz » 01 Mar 2016 13:45 wrote:Let's see how well modern "social constructs" would holdup in anarchy. If you want to trot out Darwin and have socitiety live in arnarchy (extreme left or unicorn communism) then survival of the fittest will always win out and replace your ideological fantasies.


Indigenous Australian society was basically anarchy, and aside from the brutal violence many of those "social constructs" concerning giving people a fair go held up well.
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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby tapitsbo » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:39 am

Well, I've been told there's literally nothing wrong with anarchy, because it contains no contradictions. Not that I give a shit.
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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:36 am

For those who say that men's rights activists work for these positive changes, there is a public relations problem. I've only witnessed it from people on this board and nowhere else in real life or online. The public perception that it's all about misogyny, rape culture, and sexism abounds because if the positive action exists, it is hidden.

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Re: It's a Man's World!

Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:39 am

We need to call Leslie Jones's nude hack what it is: A hate crime


What’s happening to Jones proves why we need intersectional feminism – the concept that links gender with other factors such as race or disability. It’s often dismissed as academic theory, but really what it shows are the struggles that women face when they're born into more than one minority. …
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