Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon May 02, 2016 9:31 am

IMF turns them to the knuckle breakers of the World Bank



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Let’s start in Ancient Mesopotamia. The group that I organized out of Harvard has done a 20-study of the origins of economic structuring in the Bronze Age, even the Neolithic, and the
2KillingTheHost_Cover_ruleBronze Age economy – 3200 BC going back to about 1200 BC. Suppose you’re a Babylonian in the time of Hammurabi, about 1750 BC, and you’re a cultivator. How do you buy things during the year? Well, if you go to the bar, to an ale woman, what she’d do is write down the debt that you owe. It was to be paid on the threshing floor. The debts were basically paid basically once a year when the income was there, on the threshing floor when the harvest was in. If the palace or the temples would advance animals or inputs or other public services, this would be as a debt. It was all paid in grain, which was monetized for paying debts to the palace, temples and other creditors.

The IMF has this Austrian theory that pretends that money began as barter and that capitalism basically operates on barter. This always is a disinformation campaign. Nobody believed this in times past, and it is a very modern theory that basically is used to say, “Oh, debt is bad.” What they really mean is that public debt is bad. The government shouldn’t create money, the government shouldn’t run budget deficits but should leave the economy to rely on the banks. So the banks should run and indebt the economy.

You’re dealing with a public relations mythology that’s used as a means of deception for most people. You can usually ignore just about everything the IMF says. If you understand money you’re not going to be hired by the IMF. The precondition for being hired by the IMF is not to understand finance. If you do understand finance, you’re fired and blacklisted. That’s why they impose austerity programs that they call “stabilization programs” that actually are destabilization programs almost wherever they’re imposed.

LONG: Is this a lack of understanding and adherence to the wrong philosophy, or how did we get into this trap?

HUDSON: We have an actively erroneous view, not just a lack of understanding. This is not by accident. When you have an error repeated year after year after year, decade after decade after decade, it’s not really insanity doing the same thing thinking it’ll be different. It’s sanity. It’s doing the same thing thinking the result will be the same again and again and again. The result will indeed be austerity programs, making budget deficits even worse, driving governments further into debt, further into reliance on the IMF. So then the IMF turns them to the knuckle breakers of the World Bank and says, “Oh, now you have to pay your debts by privatization”. It’s the success. The successful error of monetarism is to force countries to have such self-defeating policies that they end up having to privatize their natural resources, their public domain, their public enterprises, their communications and transportation, like you’re seeing in Greece’s selloffs. So when you find an error that is repeated, it’s deliberate. It’s not insane. It’s part of the program, not a bug.

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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby tapitsbo » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:01 pm

Aaaand the admittedly somewhat vague "racist fantasist conspiracist" thesis of this thread is once again given support, from the horse's mouth this time (check out the KSA shoutout!):

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Confl ... ief-456804

Lebanon will become a "state of refugees" from which it will be difficult to recover if there is another war between Israel and Hezbollah, a senior IDF intelligence general said Wednesday.


Greater co-operation between Russia and Israel will surely leave the refugee-to-be Lebanese civilians in a rough spot. Hopefully there will be somewhere willing to give them asylum
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:00 pm

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byCommon Dreams
Refugee Planet: There Have Never Been This Many Displaced People on Earth
Half of refugees worldwide are children, new United Nations report finds
byNadia Prupis, staff writer

An unprecedented 65.3 million people have been displaced around the world due to war and persecution, the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) reported on Monday.

The new figure is not only a 21st century record, it is also the first time that the numbers have surpassed 60 million—which means one in every 113 people worldwide is now either an asylum-seeker, internally displaced, or a refugee, the UN said. Half of them are children.

Over the past five years, forced displacement has increased quicker than ever due to long-standing conflicts in regions like Somalia and Afghanistan; "dramatic" escalations in newly destabilized countries like Syria, Yemen, and Ukraine; and a growing resistance from other nations to providing asylum for refugees, the UN reported.

"More people are being displaced by war and persecution and that's worrying in itself, but the factors that endanger refugees are multiplying too," said UN High Commissioner for Refugees Filippo Grandi.

Grandi also warned on Sunday that a "climate of xenophobia" was spreading due to political rhetoric painting refugees as terrorists or beggars. "Refugees... don't bring danger" but "flee from dangerous places," he told Agence France-Presse.

The UN's report, Global Trends (pdf), was released to mark World Refugee Day on June 20 and in conjunction with the agency's #WithRefugees campaign, which calls on governments to ensure asylum seekers are given education, safe shelter, and opportunities to work.

"At sea, a frightening number of refugees and migrants are dying each year; on land, people fleeing war are finding their way blocked by closed borders," Grandi said Monday. "Politics is gravitating against asylum in some countries. The willingness of nations to work together not just for refugees but for the collective human interest is what's being tested today, and it's this spirit of unity that badly needs to prevail."

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Syria at 4.9 million, Afghanistan at 2.7 million, and Somalia at 1.1 million together accounted for more than half the refugees under the UNHCR mandate. The Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region, in total, saw the highest numbers of displaced people in 2015. Intervention in Syria—led in part by the U.S.—has seen at least 4.9 million people driven out of the country and at least 6.6 million displaced internally, totaling around half of the nation's pre-war population.

Hikmat, a Syrian farmer now living in a tent in Lebanon with his family, told the UN, "We're stuck here. We can't go on and we can't go back. My children need to go to school, they need a future."

Elsewhere in the world, people fleeing drug gangs in Central America contributed to a 17 percent rise in displacement in the region, while refugees from Asia and the Pacific accounted for almost a sixth of global refugees and internally displaced people in 2015. Meanwhile, as Europe and the U.S. have largely turned their backs on asylum seekers, Pakistan and Iran held onto their position as two of the world's leading refugee host countries. In fact, 86 percent of refugees are currently living in low- and middle-income countries in close proximity to areas of conflict, such as Ethiopia, Jordan, and Turkey.

The report excluded people who were displaced by natural disasters such as floods and earthquakes, which separately uprooted at least 19 million people in 2015, according to the Internal Displacement Monitoring Center, which released its own report in May.

UNHCR said the 2016 report must act as a "watershed moment" for the cause.

"World leaders can no longer watch passively as so many lives are needlessly lost," the report states. "We must be smart about finding solutions to help refugees. We must find humane and dignified means to ensure refugees don’t risk their lives and those of their families by resorting to ruthless traffickers or by boarding flimsy boats in a bid to reach safety."
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby American Dream » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:15 am

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Criminalizing solidarity: Syriza’s war on the movements

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Theodoros Karyotis


In the early morning of July 27, refugee families and supporters who were sleeping at Thessaloniki’s three occupied refugee shelters — Nikis, Orfanotrofeio and Hurriya — were woken up by police in riot gear. In a well-orchestrated police operation, hundreds of people were detained. Most occupants with refugee status were released, while some were transported to military-run refugee reception centers. The rest of the occupants, 74 people of more than a dozen different nationalities, were taken into police custody.

Immediately after Orfanotrofeio was evacuated, bulldozers marched in and demolished the building, an abandoned orphanage “donated” five years ago to the enterprising Greek Orthodox Church by a previous government. Under the rubble were buried tons of clothes, foodstuffs and medicine collected there by grassroots solidarity structures to be distributed to refugee families in need. Hours later, No Border Kitchen, an autonomous structure providing food to refugees in the island of Lesvos, was also forcefully evicted by the police.

On the next afternoon, the 74 occupants of the three occupied shelters were transported to Thessaloniki’s courthouse in handcuffs by heavily armed police, where they were cheered upon entering by hundreds of supporters, despite the debilitating heat of the Greek summer. The nine occupants of Nikis squat were condemned to four-month suspended sentences for occupation of a public building. The trials of the 65 occupants of the Orfanotrofeio and Hurriya shelters were postponed due to lack of interpreters; everyone was provisionally freed. Charges include “disruption of household peace” and “damage to property” — this last one an accusation fabricated by greedy owners who demand large compensations for supposed damages to their long-abandoned and unused buildings.

The response of the movements to the attack was swift and included the symbolic occupations of the headquarters of the governing Syriza party in Thessaloniki and other cities; marches and protests all over the country; the occupation of the Drama School of the local university, to be transformed into a center of struggle; and the rescuing of the refugees who were transferred from the occupied shelters to refugee camps — most of them vulnerable — back to safe places. To that we should add the mobilization of a big volunteer legal team to organize the defense of dozens of activists in three separate trials.

Nevertheless, the response was asymmetrical, as by Wednesday’s operation the police liquidated in just one day a great part of the infrastructure patiently constructed by the grassroots movement for solidarity with refugees over the last year. The raid and eviction of the three occupied refugee shelters thus marks another episode in the undeclared war of the Greek government against grassroots solidarity efforts.

HUMANITY IN SPITE OF EVERYTHING

Since the summer of 2015, when Greece became the main path to Europe for people fleeing war, repression and poverty in Asia and Africa, the refugees who crossed the country encountered the Greek people, who had endured five years of austerity shock treatment, who had seen their lives degraded and their social, political and labor rights vanishing in a very short period of time.

Despite the hardship, the ordeal of the refugees was generally not met with xenophobic reflexes, but with authentic empathy and solidarity on behalf of the population. The voices of the extreme right — which only a few years back had been organizing pogroms against immigrants in collusion with the armed forces — were marginalized, and Greek society generally demonstrated an outpouring of solidarity towards the immigrants.

The old xenophobic maxim — “if you like the refugees so much, take them to your home” — was actually put into practice: thousands of Greek homes were opened to host refugees, especially the most vulnerable ones — the sick, pregnant women and families with little children — sometimes as an intermediate stop to recover their strength before regrouping with family in the north of Europe, but often as a more lasting arrangement. Millions of rations of home-cooked food were taken to the camp of Eidomeni by ordinary people, where great numbers of refugees lived in deplorable conditions in tents and makeshift homes, waiting for a chance to cross the border to the north and continue their path towards northern Europe.

SOLIDARITY IN MOVEMENT

This heartwarming response on behalf of Greek society marked a moral victory for Greece’s social movements, which throughout the years of the crisis have not only been resisting the assault on the popular classes and creating grassroots alternatives, but have also been combating racism, xenophobia and fascism at all levels: in the neighborhood, in the streets and in public discourse.

From the very beginning, the resources and infrastructure of the social movements, however limited, were mobilized to provide support and relief to as many as possible of the nearly one million refugees who crossed the country. The network of solidarity clinics — volunteer grassroots structures that were created some years back to offer primary healthcare to uninsured Greek and immigrant workers — actively took part in caring for the refugees and denouncing the health hazards in the government’s treatment of them. Social centers — notably Micropolis and Steki Metanaston in Thessaloniki, Nosotros and Votanikos Kipos in Athens, and a host of others — created points of contact for refugees, and put their existing infrastructures, like collective kitchens, food stores and kindergartens, at their service.

Local and international grassroots organizations set up autonomous relief structures — parallel to those of the state and NGOs — in Eidomeni and other areas where refugees were concentrated in high numbers. The occupied self-managed factory of Vio.Me in Thessaloniki made available a warehouse for the collection, storage and transportation of basic items like clothes, sanitary items and baby food that had been gathered by solidarity collectives from all over Greece and Europe, prior to shipment to the Eidomeni border to be handed out to refugees.

Most importantly, militant collectives and groups of refugees occupied a host of empty buildings throughout Greece, to be used as self-managed refugee shelters — notably Notara and City Plaza in Athens, as well as Orfanotrofeio and Hurriya in Thessaloniki. Other long-existing squats opened their doors to refugee families, including Nikis squat, evicted by police last Wednesday.

DEALING IN AID

Evidently, the capacity of these self-managed and self-financed structures to make a quantitative impact on the plight of the nearly 57.000 refugees currently stuck in Greece is limited. However, they mark a qualitative difference from the efforts of the state and the NGOs, which dominate the relief efforts.

Undoubtedly, the Greek state did, after all, mobilize its resources to deal with the unthinkable humanitarian catastrophe by rescuing those who tried to cross over by boat from Turkey to the islands of the Aegean Sea. This marked an improvement compared to previous years, when the Greek coastguard notoriously practiced on-the-spot deportations. As recently as August 2015 they were even accused of actively trying to sink boats full of refugees.

Nevertheless, for the Greek state the plight of the refugees is primarily a matter of public order, and hence a field for the intervention of the armed forces. The care for refugees and the provision of basic needs is left to the hundreds of NGOs active in the area — many of them well-established and others founded overnight — which take advantage of the flow of local and European funds towards aid projects. Although the selfless and exhausting efforts of aid workers, who have to deal with incredibly strenuous situations, often in low-waged and precarious conditions themselves, are deserving of respect, the monopolization of aid by NGOs signifies the privatization of “solidarity”; its subsumption under quantitative goals, laws of efficiency and cost-effectiveness. In a way, it signifies the creation of lucrative new markets out of human misery.

CHARITY VS SOLIDARITY

What makes the efforts of grassroots movements stand out in relation to the actions of the state and the NGOs is that they are motivated by different political imperatives. Contrary to the flow of aid from highly centralized organizations towards disempowered refugees, true solidarity flows horizontally among peers. Those who practice solidarity recognize themselves in the “other” and are motivated by empathy, not pity.

In occupied refugee shelters, managed as commons through participatory methods, locals and refugees cook together and eat around the same table; they take decisions together in the circle of the horizontal assembly; they recognize each other’s culture and customs and overcome preconceptions and stereotypes. Against the enforced segregation, solidarity initiatives create a common language and common spaces of action for locals and refugees.

Furthermore, where state policy wants the refugees “hidden under the carpet” — away from cities, crammed in military-run refugee camps in inhumane conditions — grassroots solidarity places them at the center of social life, where they can be accepted and included within society. Where European policies classify and selectively deport immigrants according to their origin, grassroots solidarity calls into question the distinction between “immigrant” and “refugee”, since in humanitarian terms it is not important whether displaced people are fleeing from wars or from poverty and repressive regimes.

Most importantly, where the state and NGOs treat the refugee crisis as if it were an inevitable natural disaster, grassroots solidarity denounces its root causes: the imperialist wars in the Middle East, the neo-colonialist dispossession of local farmers by multinationals in Africa and Asia, the inhuman immigration policies of “Fortress Europe” and, especially, the insistence on closed borders, which forces fleeing populations towards the sea routes — resulting in immense loss of life — and into the hands of a lucrative people-smuggling market.


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American Dream » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:49 am wrote:
Refugee crisis: the EU cracks down on volunteers

As Frontex moves in, volunteers in Greece are being prevented from helping refugees.
Marienna Pope-Weidemann reports


March 2016


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Volunteers help refugees on the coast of Lesbos.

In October 1943 Adolf Hitler ordered the deportation of all Jews in Denmark to Nazi concentration camps. More than 99 percent of them were saved because thousands of people risked imprisonment—and worse—to smuggle over 7,500 men, women and children to safety in Sweden in a matter of days.

Similar stakes may now be imposed on volunteers in the Greek islands, as the EU border agency, Frontex, begins to assert its authority over an area that 400 people have drowned trying to reach since the New Year. ‘We do feel as if we are in the resistance in World War Two,’ said Lara, a young Dutch volunteer on Chios. ‘We were "randomly" checked for papers and passports and told not to feed the hungry. Every move we make is being watched now.’

Frontex takes control

At the end of 2015 a storm was brewing. Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia and Macedonia shut their doors, trapping hundreds of people in freezing temperatures at Greece’s northern border. The move triggered hunger strikes and demonstrations, with young men sewing their lips shut to represent their voicelessness, wielding signs that read ‘Shoot Us or Save Us.’ Meanwhile, Greece came under growing pressure from the EU to control the flow of people and was threatened with exclusion from the Schengen free movement.

In response, Syriza has done all it knows how to do—surrender—and now the walls are closing in. With a bankrupt government leaving gaping holes in its aid system and an EU earmarking its wealth for border control, solidarity networks were given an informal go-ahead to do the lifesaving work that no one else was going to do. By working night and day they achieved superhuman feats and became the thin line separating disaster from total barbarism. But now, they are under attack.

2016 started with a move to force all volunteers and charities helping refugees in Greece to register with the police. This might not sound unreasonable, except for three important points. Firstly, a lot of the help people need—whether it’s giving lifts to get vulnerable people out of the cold or cooking for starving families without waiting for Greek bureaucracy to catch up with its paperwork—all this is against the law.

This is part of the reason why independent volunteers are so important. As Lara explained, big aid agencies ‘can’t even provide for the most basic needs because of the rules.' She continued: 'Part of what creates this inhumane situation is a lack of self-responsibility. As an independent volunteer with twenty blankets, you know if you don’t distribute them there will be at least 20 people freezing to death and that’s on your conscience. If you work for UNHCR and you have 200 blankets but are forbidden to give them out, the order comes from higher up so your conscience doesn’t come into it. Instead of questioning, they put the responsibility outside of themselves, which is comfortable and convenient.’

The second point is that over half the Greek police force support the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn Party, so volunteers are effectively flipping a coin as to whether they're sharing sensitive information with an armed fascist.

Continues at: http://www.redpepper.org.uk/refugee-cri ... olunteers/
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby American Dream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:51 am

http://www.versobooks.com/blogs/2814-sh ... the-racist

Shlomo Sand: Secularism, the Last Refuge of the Racist
By Shlomo Sand / 25 August 2016

This summer in France has been marked by constant rows, with the introduction of anti-burkini edicts and fines for veiled women. Does France have a problem with Islam and Muslims? As Shlomo Sand, professor in contemporary history at the University of Tel-Aviv and author of The Invention of the Jewish People writes, ‘People used to say that patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. Today, it’s laïcité’.

Edited by Sébastien Billard and originally published in L’Obs. Translated by David Broder.

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For years I was intrigued by the phenomenon of Judeophobia in France. While I very soon understood that France was never fascist or Nazi, I nonetheless struggled to accept that a culture so central to the Enlightenment, mother to the Declaration of Rights of Man and the Citizen, could at the same time have nurtured such profound hostility toward Jews. As historian Léon Poliakov wrote in the 1950s, ‘If we wanted to measure the strength of anti-Semitism in each country by looking at the amount of ink spilt writing about the Jews, without doubt at the end of the nineteenth century France ranked first among all of them’.

France’s enduring Judeophobia

Why has Judeophobia proven so enduring in France in particular? Some have tried to answer this question by laying the blame on Catholic fundamentalism: Catholics long maintained their enmity toward the descendants of those who murdered the son of God, immigrants from the Orient who stubbornly persisted in defiling the integrity of Christian Europe.

But if that were the case, then why did Judeophobia remain marginal in Italy, country of the papacy and the homeland of Catholicism? And how come in Spain, land of the Catholic Inquisition, Jew-hatred became so apathetic across the nineteenth and twentieth centuries?

The utopian Fourier was not speaking as a devout Catholic when he wrote that ‘the Jewish nation is not civilised, it is patriarchal… and it thinks any deceit commendable when it is a matter of tricking those who do not practice its religion’.

When the historian Jules Michelet was writing his famous book Le Peuple he took care to emphasise: ‘Whatever you say about the Jews they do have a homeland, the London stock exchange; they are active everywhere but their roots are in the land of gold’. He thus spoke as the laïque [state-secularist] patriot par excellence. When in 1847 the anarchist Proudhon wrote in his journal that ‘The Jew is the enemy of the human race. This race must be sent to Asia or exterminated’, this did not make him any less scathing about the priests.

And Maurice Barrès was speaking as a convinced democrat when he declared in 1902 that: ‘Assimilated among Frenchmen of French origins on account of the French Revolution, the Jews have preserved their distinctive traits, and having previously been persecuted they have now become dominant’.

The fear of the other has marked the construction of the French nation

When Céline proclaimed in the 1930s that he ‘would prefer a dozen Hitlers than one omnipotent Blum [Socialist prime minister]’ he was in no sense a Christian, but a laïque Frenchman. When Drieu La Rochelle wrote in 1941, referring to the German occupier, that ‘Four million foreigners in France including one million Jews gave me the torment of occupation long before you did’, he was still posing as a hardened republican.

Without doubt, from a certain point onward incitement against Jews was taken on and amplified by Action française [a fascist movement], but it would be mistaken to think that relations with Jews constituted the dividing line between monarchists and republicans, between Catholic conservatives and the laïques partisans of the Enlightenment, or between Left and Right. That is why on the parliamentary benches of the anti-semitic Vichy régime the likes of Action française found themselves side by side with members of the [liberal-republican] Radical Party as well as a hardly negligible number of Socialists.

While Christianity of course appeared as the historical ancestor of modern Judeophobia, Jacobin nationalism can be seen as its legal parent. Certainly this is an inclusive nationalism, unlike the nationalisms of Germany and eastern Europe. But from the outset it was bearer of a problematic temperament: thus the construction of the French nation was marked by intolerance, fear of the ‘different’ Other and fear of particularisms

At the very beginning Protestants and the English were considered the enemies of the great French nation; and subsequently it was necessary to bring Breton, Occitan and Provençal nationalists to heel. The Republic, one and indivisible, with its capital constituting its centre, forced the submission of the provinces, the different dialects and all pre-national collective identities.

An alliance between Jacobins and traditional conservatism

The nation also put an end to many centuries of shutting away the Jews. These latter became loyal and disciplined citizens, even as some of them wished to remain somehow ‘Israelites’; such an ancestral particularity was not going to disappear in one or two generations, even if their specificities – even among secularised Jews – were never unambiguous.

Moreover, the growing waves of immigration by Yiddish people coming from eastern Europe fed a fresh particularism – one of a different character. This enduring immigration had the effect of deferring their ‘normal’ integration, and the different ‘Other’ continued to make himself visible through a thousand everyday signs, faced with the republican cultural bulldozer.

Only after the terrible tragedy did hatred for the Jewish ‘other’ – a hatred viscerally anchored in the collective and anti-pluralist French conception of nationality – finally come to an end. Becoming illegitimate in the 1950s, anti-semitism did not completely disappear from everyday discourse. But it was delegitimised in the centres of media and political power.

The economic and social crises at the end of the twentieth century, as well as the decline of France’s position in the world, have however contributed to creating a growing unease over a new threat: the troubling, perturbing presence of the Muslim ‘other’. The fact that immigrants have preserved a different culture has exasperated the new Jacobins, many of whom were only yesterday frenetic Maoists. An alliance has developed between these latter and traditional conservatism.

Now it’s the Quran that’s to blame

We prefer it that Muslim girls coiffed with a veil don’t come to study Voltaire and Rousseau in the republican classroom: and too bad if they end up in private schools financed by our beloved Saudi Arabia!

Why the devil do Muslim women prefer to wear a veil like our grandmothers did, rather than slip on some high-heels like emancipated women? Better that Muslim French women don’t take advantage of the beach in summer, side-by-side with topless republicans! Better that they remain cloistered in their little apartments!

In working to do everything to alienate the Muslim people, we have constantly portrayed its fringe elements as crazed murderers. The fact that there is a vast gulf between these ‘zombie’ believers and Islam, just as in previous times there was a vast gulf between Lebanese Falangists and Christianity, and even – still today – between the murderous settlers in the occupied Palestinian territories and the Jewish religion, does nothing to change this view. Once upon a time the Talmud was an impure book; now it’s the Quran that’s to blame.

Ultimately, very many laïque French republicans have proven that they are in fact the bearers of a religious mentality. People used to say that patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. Today, it’s laïcité.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:58 pm

Has there been any discussion in this thread yet of the huge dump of internal files from Soros HQ Open Society Foundation?

The site itself is currently down, and the major media has been quite notably silent.

I mention this because I recall the first 15 pages of this thread being a vociferous argument about the real intentions of Soros -- and the man revealed in the leaks is a cartoon caricature of the amoral globalist insider / operator. They were stunningly frank & glib about the "opportunity" provided by the migrant crisis, both to change public policy in nations around the world and to change the demographics and economies of those same countries.

This is a good example of how fraught the frontiers of "journalism" really are -- much like how the best work on Hillary Clinton's emails has been courtesy of the ferociously partisan Judicial Watch, most of the outlets unpacking the Soros leaks are Daily Caller style right wing shops. (I'm always hesitant to call them "conservative" -- that noun used to mean something, and perhaps could mean something again.)

Another good example: Soros was revealed to be pouring millions into Anti-Israel activist groups. How's that for gnarled? Cognitive dissonance is seldom so poignant.


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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:20 pm

if only Judicial Watch would have gone after bush/cheney's war crimes with such vigor
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Searcher08 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:06 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:58 pm wrote:Has there been any discussion in this thread yet of the huge dump of internal files from Soros HQ Open Society Foundation?

The site itself is currently down, and the major media has been quite notably silent.

I mention this because I recall the first 15 pages of this thread being a vociferous argument about the real intentions of Soros -- and the man revealed in the leaks is a cartoon caricature of the amoral globalist insider / operator. They were stunningly frank & glib about the "opportunity" provided by the migrant crisis, both to change public policy in nations around the world and to change the demographics and economies of those same countries.

This is a good example of how fraught the frontiers of "journalism" really are -- much like how the best work on Hillary Clinton's emails has been courtesy of the ferociously partisan Judicial Watch, most of the outlets unpacking the Soros leaks are Daily Caller style right wing shops. (I'm always hesitant to call them "conservative" -- that noun used to mean something, and perhaps could mean something again.)

Another good example: Soros was revealed to be pouring millions into Anti-Israel activist groups. How's that for gnarled? Cognitive dissonance is seldom so poignant.

"All ignorance is motivated." - McLuhan



Cheers for the Daily Caller info, WR
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:25 pm

seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:20 pm wrote:if only Judicial Watch would have gone after bush/cheney's war crimes with such vigor


They literally did exactly that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_ ... nistration
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Jerky » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:02 pm

Wombat, I think you missed the "with such vigor" part of the comment.

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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:14 pm

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I don't see war crimes here...or the 20 years of vigor
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby stefano » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:10 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:58 pm wrote:Has there been any discussion in this thread yet of the huge dump of internal files from Soros HQ Open Society Foundation?

Thanks for this. I've long been generally positive about Soros. Though I have a lot of reservations (about open borders for capital especially), any Soros-bashing on RI for instance has been consistently short on actual ammo. It's all vague insinuation or outright untrue bullshit. And, with the DC leaks site down, this is still that, I have to say.

Here's the meatiest of the Daily Caller articles: Leaked Soros Memo: Refugee Crisis ‘New Normal,’ Gives ‘New Opportunities’ For Global Influence

Is that what you mean by "opportunity to change the demographics and economies of countries"? I suppose that's technically true, in the same sense that the arrival of Rivaj from New Delhi tomorrow will change the demographics of the US, but it's hardly Emmanuel Goldstein scheming to dilute the strength of Airstrip One (which, I'm sure you're aware, is how a lot of people on here read your post). The key takeaways seem to be that the International Migration Initiative sees the refugee crisis as "the new normal" and and important context in which to "shape migration policymaking and influence regional and global processes affecting the way migration is governed and enforced.” The first is arguable but hardly sinister; the second is obviously true. When current policy is to park people in tents in Calais and do fuck all else, then a rethink appears at least reasonable, even if you think those people should go back home.

You can find the document in question if you Google “Migration Governance and Enforcement Portfolio Review” and select the cached view of the PDF that'll come up on the first page. A quick read through yields such vanilla tidbits as:

    Our support to the field aimed to: (1) strengthen civil society interventions in international policy debates; and (2) build the capacity of policymakers to better manage the challenges of migration.

Or

    Our support to the field involved three approaches: (1) increasing documentation, analysis, and reporting of enforcement practices; (2) advocating for improved detention conditions and access to detention facilities; and (3) promoting alternative solutions to immigration detention.

Or

    Policies that maximized options for movement through safe, legal channels would decrease both the human costs of migration and spending on migration control and border enforcement.

All perfectly sane, and, in my view, quite right. Soros outfits have been among few voices explaining to the Europeans that the welfare state, in an environment of ageing and shrinking domestic populations, needs migrants and lots of them. If the poms want to keep cashing cheques for sitting at home, then they're going to have to tolerate the wogs. If they don't like the wogs, they're going to have to get off their doughy arses and clean their aunties' bedpans themselves.

A dilemma that was somehow absent from Nigel Farage's speeches.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:55 pm

stefano » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:10 pm wrote:I suppose that's technically true, in the same sense that the arrival of Rivaj from New Delhi tomorrow will change the demographics of the US, but it's hardly Emmanuel Goldstein scheming to dilute the strength of Airstrip One (which, I'm sure you're aware, is how a lot of people on here read your post).


That doesn't parse for me at all, I guess I don't remember much of 1984 beyond the ruminations of Syme. Wikipedia didn't help.

Rivaj from New Delhi arrives with a much different operating system than Ali from Pakistan; while the disruptions in Europe are being inflated & overstated for propaganda purposes, that doesn't mean they aren't real.

The bit about "Global Governance" was interesting to me, although not for the reasons most NWO watchers would seize upon it. They're defining the same vacuum of power that the United Nations failed to patch. The "Radical Islam" angle isn't nearly as much of a long-term threat to order as the simple demographic upsets of having a domestic population that is essentially illegal / in limbo / completely alienated from their surroundings. I don't reckon it matters much what people in such circumstances believe about God, that's a recipe for trouble even if you stack the deck full of Mormons.

This is something Vinay Gupta used to write about quite a bit, especially the refugee crisis aspect of it. He envisions (envisoned?) a future of perpetual crisis where our current "new normal" will very much resemble The Good Old Days. He's probably right.

One of his primary concerns, which I'm surprised you don't see more often in rational discourse among well-informed adults, was pandemic risk. This is hugely exacerbated by having millions of human beings packed into high-density, low-sanitation environments.

As for the publications of the Open Society Foundation, I am of course cynical. Everything is quite reasonably stated in the hallways of neoliberalism, and indeed, my dayjob often involves couching abyss-gazing realism in completely unobjectionable, familiar phrases.

We've certainly got more malevolent oligarchs than Soros to worry about, though. (Even Bill Gates cuts a more sinister profile, to me.)
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Re: Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby stefano » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:52 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:55 pm wrote:That doesn't parse for me at all, I guess I don't remember much of 1984 beyond the ruminations of Syme.

The title of this thread is Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe. That's a dilution or restatement as euphemism of a different idea that you'll find on sites where these things are discussed: that the International Jew is scheming to sap the energy of the White Race through migration (and miscegenation, pornography and rap music). George Soros is the International Jew for a lot of people. Like Emmanuel Goldstein.

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:55 pm wrote:The "Radical Islam" angle isn't nearly as much of a long-term threat to order as the simple demographic upsets of having a domestic population that is essentially illegal / in limbo / completely alienated from their surroundings. I don't reckon it matters much what people in such circumstances believe about God, that's a recipe for trouble even if you stack the deck full of Mormons.

Muslim migration to Europe has been happening since the 740s. I haven't done the numbers, but I suspect current numbers, in proportion to overall population, are lower than the figures in the 1950s and 1960s, when the migration of Turks and Algerians and Moroccans to Europe was engineered (though not coercively) for reconstruction. If they're higher I don't think it'll be by much. And they didn't cause much shit (some exceptions, notably related to France's Algerian War). Immigrants typically don't. Their kids do, and that is an issue, but one to which training and internship programmes are (I think) a better solution than border policy.

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:55 pm wrote:This is something Vinay Gupta used to write about quite a bit, especially the refugee crisis aspect of it. He envisions (envisoned?) a future of perpetual crisis where our current "new normal" will very much resemble The Good Old Days. He's probably right.

Never heard of Gupta; looks interesting, thanks. I will check him out. Perpetual crisis where, though? Most of the world is better off than 20 years ago, and even Europe is still really all right, this crisis is to a large degree one of perception and expectation. And, again, that's mostly because they're getting so old these days. Old populations present all sorts of economic problems - I've mentioned welfare, but inheritance dynamics are also a big thing. And, since Europeans are choosing not to have kids at the replacement fertility rate, the only fix (if they want to keep the economic rules mostly unchanged) is letting migrants in.

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:55 pm wrote:One of his primary concerns, which I'm surprised you don't see more often in rational discourse among well-informed adults, was pandemic risk. This is hugely exacerbated by having millions of human beings packed into high-density, low-sanitation environments.

Yeah, the next plague is in the pipeline. Nowhere in Europe do "millions of human beings" live in "high-density, low-sanitation environments" though. That bug is coming out of South China.

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:55 pm wrote:We've certainly got more malevolent oligarchs than Soros to worry about, though. (Even Bill Gates cuts a more sinister profile, to me.)

Again, I'm not seeing it. I feel the same sort of benign suspicion towards Gates as to Soros. Sure, his business practices might have tended to the sharpish, but he made his money selling a thing everyone wanted, and treated his employees well. Less of a motherfucker than Steve Jobs at any rate, whose employees literally jumped out of windows rather than work one more day for him. The malevolent oligarchs I'm scared of are the ones that very seldom come up on RI - the Jamie Dimons and Henry Kravises and John Paulsons (though he's now come up for the Trump involvement), who are perfectly content with how the world works and see no reason to change it.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:56 pm

Good point on the title, we tolerate so many in-jokes I had forgotten how literal most of the OP material was. This is not a thread about the EU migrant situation / ongoing tragedy / second-order effects, so much as a very specific plan. There were probably more general Soros threads I could have popped off in.

Didn't World War Z footage get included in an early Trump ad about immigration? Am I imagining that?

The only places in the EU orbit I could think of that fit those conditions - HD/LS, shall we say - were the border-straddling camps I've seen footage of. Is your sense that this situation is more stabilized now? Everything looks quite grim in the footage I see on Facebook, people are fundraising.

Anyways, my bet for emergent vector has been Bangladesh for awhile, but I think South China is an excellent call. Speaking morbidly, of course. In terms of climate & density, it's mostly Latin America x Tropics that pose an inherent outbreak risk, yeah? I like to tell myself that densely networked urban areas, like cities with multiple airports and heavy international traffic, are protected by the Andromeda Strain Effect.

Much like the unclassifiable lifeforms found in the NYC sewer - the Dallas / Fort Worth corridor is a cluster of survivors. Winners. Same goes for the Bay Area of the Republic of California, and the whole Boston ==> NYC outgrowth, and hopefully the whole EU. Too polymorphously perverse to be easily susceptible.

The malevolent oligarchs I'm scared of are the ones that very seldom come up on RI - the Jamie Dimons and Henry Kravises and John Paulsons (though he's now come up for the Trump involvement), who are perfectly content with how the world works and see no reason to change it.


Aye - the advantage of not having to fund a think tank. The best predators blend in with their environment. I worry -- chafe to admit, but I do worry on occasion -- I worry that we focus too reflexively on headline commentary here. There are a lot of moves being made right now that don't get headline coverage.
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