PufPuf93 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:55 pm wrote:stefano » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:19 am wrote:If you'll humour my rabid, fearful handwaving for just an instant:
Let's concede, for the sake of argument, that the shooter was someone other than Omar Mateen. What do you think the most likely answer is to the question: what did they do with him?
Just humour me, please. Tolerate the pants-shitting, foamy-mouthed terror that so clearly comes through in my writing (and in that of the other craven establishment-worshippers that hang around here).
Here is a scenario where the "hidden hand" is a covert operation from beginning to end by the "powers that be".
The "powers that be" want a domestic radical Islamists attack, want to have more gun control, want to have more police state powers, and want to create more sympathy and acceptance and condemnation simultaneously of GLBT and Latins.
The FBI and MIC "captured" media plus pundits and politicians are the operators and indirect operators respectively.
The FBI interviews possible Islamic domestic jihadists and decides on Omar Mateen as most useful. Maybe someone at Wackenhut even gets a finder's fee.
Omar Mateen refuses to cooperate and knows nothing about a planned terrorist event but the FBI and other operators construct the event around the circumstances of Omar Mateen's life (his family, personal issues, where he hangs out, etc.) who the FBI has subjected to the first degree of interrogation.
Omar Mateen suddenly disappears but not to Pulse but to the deep blue sea or maybe is killed in Pulse but was not the shooter.
Actual operatives do the atrocity - "professional" - and most clean up happens in the three hours of supposed siege. There is only text with his wife Noor, because Omar is not who is actually texting her.
The "body" of Omar is just another nameless patsy (for Mac and why no good description) or actually Omar.
The media and authorities and politicians do their propaganda, most not knowing nor inclined to vary from the desired narrative.
Those with first hand knowledge of Omar Mateen are shocked but know nothing more of substance than Omar is gone and the presumed shooter; mostly they worry about their own asses.
This is a good, I'm not saying plausible, run down of an alternative theory.
The thing is, though, you (and by you, I mean whoever subscribes or champions this or other scenarios, not necessarily Mr. PufPuf93) have to assign names, and agents to the above process or the "hidden hand" and "powers that be" take on mystical dimensions which can do anything and everything, are everywhere and yet nowhere.
For the above to happen, even in part, there would have to be collusion with numerous institutions and individuals or the ability to lock them out of the process. In this day and age where everyone has a built in video camera hooked up to a communication system that can disperse such evidence around the globe in seconds, I'm not seeing how even a fully entrenched totalitarian system could fully block it. (I make allowances obviously for people being shot at of course and am actually surprised there is any footage from survivors during the shooting.) Why haven't we seen a Sandy Hook, San Berdadino, Orlando, etc WikiLeaks?
Of course, as Nordic, November, and many others have pointed out, none of us really know and we are not going to provide much of any first hand reporting evidence. But if I throw out that Mateen was really a Manchurian Candidate/Terminator/MKUltra puppet designed and managed by the black ops front security firm he worked for that decided to activate him, well that is just a story that I'm using/creating to explain a reality that has been reported. And as a bullshit theory it should be taken as such until I bring something forward that would make it plausible. I think it is fine to have bullshit theories, I have them, you do, we all do, we just shouldn't think they aren't until they have been shown to hold some credence.
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