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28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Friday

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:15 pm
by seemslikeadream
28 pages on alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released as soon as Friday
By Jim Sciutto and Deirdre Walsh, CNN
Updated 3:49 PM ET, Thu July 14, 2016
28 pages on alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released

Source: CNN

28 pages on alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released 01:21

The document is expected to be post online
There will be 'minimal' redactions of information
(CNN)The long-classified pages detailing alleged ties of the Saudi Arabian government to the 9/11 hijackers will be released by Congress as early as Friday, sources told CNN Thursday.

Known as the "28 pages," the secret document was part of a 2002 congressional investigation of the Sept. 11 attacks and has been classified since the report's completion. It turns out there are actually 29 pages, sources said.
Sources said there are still some procedural steps that need to be taken before the release, which members of both parties in Congress and family members of victims have been seeking for years.
"This is great news," said Jerry Goldman, a lawyer who represents families of victims in a class-action suit, seeking to sue Saudi Arabia. "The families are happy just as the American people should be happy that information that has been kept hidden for well over a decade is finally coming to light."
Former Senator Bob Graham, who chaired the committee that carried out the investigation and has been pushing the White House to release the pages, said Thursday he was "very pleased" by the news.
"It is going to increase the questioning of the Saudis' role supporting the hijackers," Graham told CNN. "I think of this almost as the 28 pages are sort of the cork in the wine bottle. And once it's out, hopefully the rest of the wine itself will start to pour out."
Graham added, "Would the U.S. government have kept information that was just speculation away from American people for 14 years if somebody didn't think it was going to make a difference?"
Rep. Adam Schiff, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said the report will be posted on line soon.
"The House Intelligence Committee will get the redacted report today or tomorrow," the California Democrat said. "The Senate and House intel committees should then give the formal go ahead to release the report since they originally produced it."
Under pressure from the victims' families and lawmakers, President Barack Obama said in April his administration would declassify the pages.
Sources told CNN that intelligence agencies, law enforcement and the State Department have all reviewed and approved the release of the pages with "minimal redactions."
One of those who wants to read the pages is Terry Strada, who has been pushing for the right to sue Saudi Arabia over its alleged involvement in the attack. Her husband, Tom, was working on the 104th floor of the North Tower when the planes struck. The couple's third child had been born just four days eariler.
"All of this could be settled if we would just release the 28 pages and let everyone see what's in there," Strada said.
"If it was just this low-level ... government officials in the Saudi Arabian government, then they have nothing to worry about," she added. "The American people deserve this just as much as the 9/11 families deserve it, but we're the ones that are suffering by not having them released."
For its part, the Saudi government is also calling for the pages to be made public so that it can respond to any allegations, which it has long called unfounded.
A senior Saudi official told CNN that Riyadh will make any potential suspects available for interviews by U.S. authorities. So far, the official said, the Saudi government has received no such requests.

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:30 pm
by Nordic
They've had time to do rewrites.

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:42 pm
by MacCruiskeen
SLAD, start a poll on how much of it will be blacked out. I predict: 5-10%, including practically all of the names.

It's a red herring anyway. The Saudis do not control US air defense, nor did they create the ridiculous 9/11 Commission, nor did they set up the NIST whitewash, nor did they form PNAC. And that's just for starters.

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:51 pm
by seemslikeadream
but they were the patsies that thought they were flying the planes.....maybe the Saudis won't like being second choice for taking the blame ..maybe now we'll start another war to go after the "real" folks behind 9/11 :P

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:04 pm
by Nordic
If it's the real 28 pages, I'm all for it because it's the thread, which when pulled, could lead to the entire official story being unraveled.

Which is why I think it was just rewritten.

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:04 pm
by Nordic
Oops.

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:05 pm
by backtoiam
"I think of this almost as the 28 pages are sort of the cork in the wine bottle. And once it's out, hopefully the rest of the wine itself will start to pour out."

The Saudis better sell everything and hide the money because somebody wants the rest of the wine. Or capitulate and let the big boys take control of all their assets because if they don't they will lose the whole country and get bombed into the stone age.

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:31 pm
by seemslikeadream
Congress releases secret '28 pages' on alleged Saudi 9/11 ties
By Jim Sciutto, Deirdre Walsh and Ryan Browne, CNN
Updated 2:34 PM ET, Fri July 15, 2016

Washington (CNN)A long-classified U.S. report released Friday found that some of the 9/11 hijackers were in contact with and received support from individuals likely connected to the Saudi government.

Known as the "28 pages," the secret document was part of a 2002 congressional investigation of the Sept. 11 attacks and has been classified since the report's completion, despite repeated calls for its release. The document actually contains 29 pages of material plus a letter from then-CIA Director George Tenet.
"While in the United States, some of the September 11 hijackers were in contact with, and received support or assistance from, individuals who may be connected to the Saudi Government," the document says.
The pages also say that the inquiry obtained information "indicating that Saudi Government officials in the United States may have other ties to al-Qa'ida and other terrorist groups," but the commission that authored them acknowledged that much of the info "remains speculative and yet to be independently verified."
Under pressure from the victims' families and lawmakers, President Barack Obama said in April his administration would declassify the pages.
Sources told CNN ahead of the report's release that intelligence and law enforcement agencies and the State Department had all reviewed and approved the release of the pages with "minimal redactions." But the report Congress put out had multiple inked out sections.
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"This is great news," said Jerry Goldman, a lawyer who represents families of victims in a class-action suit seeking to sue Saudi Arabia, ahead of the release. "The families are happy just as the American people should be happy that information that has been kept hidden for well over a decade is finally coming to light."
Former Sen. Bob Graham, who chaired the committee that carried out the investigation and has been pushing the White House to release the pages, said Thursday he was "very pleased" that the documents would be released.
"It is going to increase the questioning of the Saudis' role supporting the hijackers," Graham told CNN. "I think of this almost as the 28 pages are sort of the cork in the wine bottle. And once it's out, hopefully the rest of the wine itself will start to pour out."
Graham added, "Would the U.S. government have kept information that was just speculation away from American people for 14 years if somebody didn't think it was going to make a difference?"
One of those who wants to read the pages is Terry Strada, who has been pushing for the right to sue Saudi Arabia over its alleged involvement in the attack. Her husband, Tom, was working on the 104th floor of the North Tower when the planes struck. The couple's third child had been born just four days eariler.
"If it was just this low-level ... government officials in the Saudi Arabian government, then they have nothing to worry about," Strada said. "The American people deserve this just as much as the 9/11 families deserve it, but we're the ones that are suffering by not having them released."
The Saudi government itself has repeated called for the pages to be made public so that it can respond to any allegations, which it has long called unfounded.
"We've been saying since 2003 that the pages should be released," said Nail Al-Jubeir, director of communications for the Saudi Embassy, ahead of Friday's developments. "They will show everyone that there is no there there."


Declassified 9/11 pages show ties to former Saudi ambassador to USA
Erin Kelly and Ray Locker, USA TODAY 2:39 p.m. EDT July 15, 2016
KEAN.HAMILTON

WASHINGTON — The 28 pages of newly declassified material from the 9/11 Commission released Friday by Congress show multiple links to associates of Saudi Arabian Prince Bandar, the former longtime ambassador to the United States.

The pages, sent to Congress by the Obama administration, have been the subject of much speculation over what they might reveal about the Saudi government's involvement in the attacks masterminded by terrorist Osama bin Laden when he led al-Qaeda.The pages were used by the 9/11 Commission as part of its investigation into the intelligence failures leading up to the attacks.

A telephone number found in the phone book of al-Qaeda operative Abu Zubaida, who was captured in Pakistan in March 2002, was for an Aspen, Colo., corporation that managed the "affairs of the Colorado residence of the Saudi Ambassador Bandar," the documents show.

Osama Bassnan, who the documents identify as a financial supporter of two of the 9/11 hijackers in San Diego, received money from Bandar, and Bassnan's wife also got money from Bandar's wife.

"One at least one occasion," the documents show, "Bassnan received a check directly from Prince Bandar's account. According to the FBI, on May 14, 1998, Bassnan cashed a check from Bandar in the amount of $15,000. Bassnan's wife also received at least one check directly from Bandar."

The top two members of the House Intelligence Committee cautioned that much of the information in the newly released pages were not "vetted conclusions."

"It’s important to note that this section does not put forward vetted conclusions, but rather unverified leads that were later fully investigated by the Intelligence Community," said Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif. and the committee chairman, in a statement. "Many of the Intelligence Community’s findings were included in the 9/11 Commission report as well as in a newly declassified executive summary of a CIA-FBI joint assessment that will soon be released by the Director of National Intelligence."

Rep. Adam Schiff of California, the panel's senior Democrat, said he hopes the newly released pages will reduce the continued speculation over Saudi involvement.

"I hope that the release of these pages, with appropriate redactions necessary to protect our nation’s intelligence sources and methods, will diminish speculation that they contain proof of official Saudi Government or senior Saudi official involvement in the 9/11 attacks," Schiff said in a statement. "The Intelligence Community and the 9/11 Commission...investigated the questions they raised and was never able to find sufficient evidence to support them. I know that the release of these pages will not end debate over the issue, but it will quiet rumors over their contents — as is often the case, the reality is less damaging than the uncertainty."

The 9/11 Commission did not actually write the newly released pages. Instead, the pages were part of the material the panel reviewed. The commission's chairmen have described the pages in the past as information based almost entirely on raw, unvetted material received by the FBI and handed over to House and Senate intelligence committees in 2002 as part of an earlier investigation of 9/11.

Current and former members of Congress have been calling for the pages to be declassified and released for more than a decade.

The 9/11 Commission concluded in its report that senior Saudi officials did not knowingly support the terrorist plot to attack the United States. The panel also found "no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded" al-Qaeda.

While the 9/11 Commission found no evidence that senior Saudi officials were involved in the 9/11 attack, the report did criticize the Saudi government for tolerating and sometimes fanning the flames of radical Islam by funding schools and mosques around the world that spread extreme ideology. The report also noted that some rich Saudis gave money to charities with terrorist links.

Fifteen of the 19 terrorists who hijacked planes on 9/11 were Saudi nationals.

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:49 pm
by MacCruiskeen
Congress releases secret '28 pages' on alleged Saudi 9/11 ties


In fact no. Just as I predicted [I AM WINNAR], at least 5% of it is blacked out.

When did proofreaders go the way of drystane dikers?

Congress releases about 26.6 pages of secret '28 pages' on alleged Saudi 9/11 ties; 1.4 pages remain wholly invisible to youse plebs


^^Fixed.

Sources told CNN ahead of the report's release that intelligence and law enforcement agencies and the State Department had all reviewed and approved the release of the pages with "minimal redactions." But the report Congress put out had multiple inked out sections.


Democracy at work. Sources (damn reliable sources, too) tell me that the day CNN reports the truth about anything more important than Kim Kardashian's arse is the day Michael Parenti receives a Congressional Medal of Honor.

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:55 pm
by Nordic
FUNNY, JUST FUNNY how the release of these edited pages came the VERY MORNING AFTER a hideous terrorist attack.

What are the odds? I know, I'm just one of those loony tin foil hat types.

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:00 pm
by seemslikeadream
I know 9/11 is sooooooo...yesterday.....nothing to see here...case closed....let's all ********* on the current terrorist attack...that will solve all our problems

or those dame emails...or the foundation .....that will do it

or fucking elect trump..or whatever low hanging fruits falls at our feet

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:13 pm
by 82_28
I love emails from dames especially when they already have my last name! :wink

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:18 pm
by MacCruiskeen
seemslikeadream » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:00 pm wrote:I know 9/11 is sooooooo...yesterday.....nothing to see here...case closed....let's all ********* on the current terrorist attack...that will solve all our problems

or those dame emails...or the foundation .....that will do it

or fucking elect trump..or whatever low hanging fruits falls at our feet


SLAD, it really takes some creative reading to interpret posters' responses to this predictably-redacted "release"in the way you just did there.

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:25 pm
by thatsmystory
The lack of transparency is unreal.

"Will this shut up the conspiracy nuts now? No way they are never content."

This is the mentality of way too many people who evidently are OK with a government that does not believe the public has a right to be informed.

Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:31 pm
by elfismiles
Nordic » 14 Jul 2016 21:04 wrote:If it's the real 28 pages, I'm all for it because it's the thread, which when pulled, could lead to the entire official story being unraveled.

Which is why I think it was just rewritten.


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