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Nordic » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:27 pm wrote:http://russia-insider.com/en/us-media-blames-putin-conspiracy-homegrown-trump-phenomenon/ri15815

US Media Blames Putin Conspiracy for Homegrown Trump Phenomenon

This Putin-Trump thing is total bullshit.

Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, and The Clinton Foundation got boodles of money from the Russian oligarchs for facilitating Russian purchase of American uranium reserves.

iss nawt a spiracy

see here

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=597337#p597337

OMG even Robert Reich is jumping on the clown train. From his FB:

Connect the following 7 dots. Do you see a pattern?

1. Trump's debt load has grown dramatically over the last year, from $350 million to $630 million. At the same time, he’s been blackballed by all major US banks.

2. Post-bankruptcy, Trump has become highly reliant on money from Russia -- most of which has over the years become increasingly concentrated among oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin.

3. Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager and top advisor, spent most of the last decade as top campaign and communications advisor to Viktor Yanukovych, the pro-Russian Ukrainian Prime Minister and then President whose ouster in 2014 led to the on-going crisis and proxy war in Ukraine. Yanukovych was and remains a close ally of Putin.

4. Trump's foreign policy advisor on Russia and Europe is Carter Page, a man whose entire professional career has revolved around investments in Russia and who has deep and continuing financial and employment ties to Gazprom, which, in turn, is part of Putin’s financial empire.

5. Over the course of the last year, Putin has aligned all Russian state controlled media behind Trump.

6. The Trump Camp was totally indifferent to the Republican Party platform, with one exception: They changed the party platform to eliminate assistance to Ukraine against Russian military operations in eastern Ukraine. Not incidentally, this is the single most important issue to Putin.

7. Trump is also suggesting the US and thus NATO might not come to the defense of NATO member states in the Baltics in the case of a Russian invasion -- another important issue to Putin.

I’m no conspiracy theorist, but these are the facts. (See sources in Josh Marshall's article below.)

What do you think?

Holy crap.

15 years after the wake-up call for a generation - trumpeted from the crashing rooftops of the twin towers - an alternative 'way of seeing things' has become so endemnic that the system is struggling to shield it's existence from the previously unwary. The advantage we have now, is that whilst the events of sept 11 2001 were successful in traumatising a nation and shaking the world, it also exposed a gaping hole in our reality that has been filled with other, more plausible explanations. These more plausible explanations have opened Pandoras box - inducing moments of clarity in which we must all face ourselves and ask a very demanding question - Where are we headed?

The system is now playing the aware at our own game. With pressure mounting, we may even witness the system explicitly stating it's aims - at which point more plausible explanations are going to be increasigly difficult to reconcile with what's happening around us. The best we can do is interpret data points after the occurance - and identify connections from which future likelyhoods can be drawn.

We need out-thinking skills, fast.

That Paul Manafort is deep state through and through, though. Interesting man.

Sadly, this is the influence America has. I feel bad that even people in Great Britain and South Africa even feel compelled to have concern about what's going on here. Everyone knows me here and where I stand. But this fucking election here has struck fear into the entire world. I mean, we in America will do what we can but literally all bets are off. I won't be voting for Clinton (I live in a "safe state") and I hate that watching the DNC I am being compelled to do something anything to prevent this disgusting Trump person to be the figurehead of this country that I really don't care too terribly much about as it is. Yet here we are.

Nordic may have missed this because he was on vacation for a week. But I was watching the Colbert show and he had Mark Cuban on. Colbert asked Cuban if Trump was worth $10 billion. Cuban said, yeah if I loaned him $9.5 billion.

The DNC was not hacked by the Russians but by Guccifer 2.0 who does not like the Russians.

Here is a recent interview with Guccifer 2.0, a Romanian:

Here's the Full Transcript of Our Interview With DNC Hacker 'Guccifer 2.0'

Written by Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai

June 21, 2016 // 02:24 PM EST

We spoke to the hacker who claimed to have broken into the servers of the Democratic National Committee, who goes by the name of “Guccifer 2.0,” in reference to the notorious hacker who leaked the George W. Bush paintings and recently claimed to have hacked Hillary Clinton’s email server.

In the interest of transparency, and to let readers judge for themselves, we decided to publish the full chat log. We kept the parts in Romanian, adding the English translation, according to Google Translate.


Motherboard: So, first of all, what can you tell me about yourself? Who are you?

Guccifer 2.0: i'm a hacker, manager, philosopher, women lover. I also like Gucci! I bring the light to people. I'm a freedom fighter! So u can choose what u like!

And where are you from?

From Romania.

Do you work with Russia or the Russian government?

No because I don't like Russians and their foreign policy. I hate being attributed to Russia.

Rest of interview at: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/dnc-ha ... transcript

oh well, he SAID he doesn't work for the Russians. So there you have it. Conclusive evidence!

justdrew » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:12 am wrote:oh well, he SAID he doesn't work for the Russians. So there you have it. Conclusive evidence!

Point taken. Every time I want to use the dunce emoticon it says partyhat.

The WikiLeaks DNC reveal and Russians behind Trump sure has come up major and timely for Hillary Clinton et al.

I have an innate revulsion to Trump as a life long Democrat (so is an absolute no go) Convenient to have and Democratic voter since McGovern in 1972 but also have no intention of voting Hillary Clinton either. Helplessly hopeless as a detached voter sitting at a pc and distanced as do not have TV.

Recall it was Bill Clinton and The Clinton Foundation that took millions from Russian oligarchs and as SoS Hillary Clinton approved Russian purchase of major uranium reserves within the USA.

Convenient to have the "Colombian necktie" of Putin and the Russians to sling on Trump the weeks of the GOP and Democratic nominating conventions.

No doubt the Russians (and Chinese and probably Israel among others) has teams of hackers attempting to browse for any "intelligence" to be found.

Useful are the specifics and timing, almost like a call and response in the useful(less) media.

Ha, is this really such strange conspiracy fruit? For people who sure like to beat the drum about nation-less global elites all in a cahooty cabal why the reticence in regards to lil Duce Trump the Oligarch in bed with Putin? Oh, because he exposes some of the dirt of American politicians, talks conspiracies, and plays like he doesn't have any skin in the game? Geez, that actually sounds like a RT newscaster. Maybe if the American people decide to dump him in Nov. to stay sovereign a little bit longer he can have a Trump Factor type show on RT as consolation prize for his service as Vladimir's Apprentice.

brekin » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:44 am wrote:Ha, is this really such strange conspiracy fruit? For people who sure like to beat the drum about nation-less global elites all in a cahooty cabal why the reticence in regards to lil Duce Trump the Oligarch in bed with Putin? Oh, because he exposes some of the dirt of American politicians, talks conspiracies, and plays like he doesn't have any skin in the game? Geez, that actually sounds like a RT newscaster. Maybe if the American people decide to dump him in Nov. to stay sovereign a little bit longer he can have a Trump Factor type show on RT as consolation prize for his service as Vladimir's Apprentice.

One could think that Putin would have better taste in Americans than the white-trash trailer park heaven Trump?

Trump would not be the first right wing American "entrepreneur" to get lollygag friendly with a Russian strong man.

A PEOPLE'S HISTORY OF KOCH INDUSTRIES: HOW STALIN FUNDED THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT

“I would rather live under a bridge than live under socialism”

—tea bagger slogan

Everyone knows that Tea Party revolutionaries fear and hate socialism about as much as the Antichrist. Which is funny, because the Tea Party movement’s dirty little secret is that it owes its existence to the grandaddy of all Antichrists: the godless empire of the USSR.

What few realize is that the secretive oil billionaires of the Koch family, the main supporters of the right-wing groups that orchestrated the Tea Party movement, would not have the means to bankroll their favorite causes had it not been for the pile of money the family made working for the Bolsheviks in the late 1920s and early 1930s, building refineries, training Communist engineers and laying down the foundation of Soviet oil infrastructure.

The comrades were good to the Kochs. Today Koch Industries has grown into the second-largest private company in America. With an annual revenue of $100 billion, the company was just $6.3 billion shy of first place in 2008. Ownership is kept strictly in the family, with the company being split roughly between right-wing brothers Charles and David Koch, who are worth about $20 billion apiece and are infamous as the largest sponsors of right-wing causes. They bankroll scores of free-market and libertarian think tanks, institutes and advocacy groups. Reason magazine, Heritage Foundation and Cato Institute are just a few of Koch-backed free-market operations. Greenpeace estimates that the Koch family shelled out $25 million from 2005 to 2008 funding the “climate denial machine,” which means they outspent Exxon Mobile three to one.

http://exiledonline.com/a-peoples-histo ... -movement/

Makes one go splodey head (thank you Sarah Palin and wish there was a emoticon).

Pretty sure Guccifer 2.0 does not work with Russians.