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Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:58 am
by Harvey
Jill Stein Proved Me Wrong


My last blog post was wrong. As of a week ago, it does matter who is elected president. That’s because one of the candidates has openly called for a new investigation into the crimes of 9/11.

In a recent statement on the subject, Jill Stein made the following important comments and promises:

“….The families and friends of those who were murdered on 9/11 deserve justice. They also deserve to know the truth…”

“…Under our administration a new inquiry would have access to the considerable body of responsible independent research that has emerged over the last 15 years….”

“…We would create an independent 9/11 Commission, not one dominated by members with an interest in protecting the reputation and careers of foreign affairs and intelligence communities…”

“…It’s time for a full accounting of what happened, and an end to the misguided post-9/11 wars that are actually making us less safe, not more safe…”

In May, a national poll showed that, “An unprecedented 91 percent of voters 28 or younger favor having an independent on the ballot, and 65 percent of respondents are willing to support a candidate who isn’t Clinton or Trump.”

Jill Stein is on the ballot in 44 states. It’s not clear what chance she has given the serious, inherent problems with the U.S. voting process and electronic voting machines. But she is the only candidate discussing what matters to the American people as opposed to what matters to the ruling oligarchy.

As Gore Vidal once said, “There is only one party in the United States, the Property Party … and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat.” Moving away from that sad and dangerous state of affairs will not be easy but supporting courageous voices in the national discussion helps. To that end, people who want real change need to send the oligarchs a strong message on November 6 by supporting Jill Stein and the Green Party.

OFF Guardian, Published on September 18, 2016 by Kevin Ryan



Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:04 am
by Grizzly
Never happen. It wouldn't be allowed.

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:07 am
by seemslikeadream
Grizzly » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:04 am wrote:Never happen. It wouldn't be allowed.



that's correct

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:20 am
by Harvey
I see. Vote instead for the candidate who is endorsed by both Iraq warriors. I see where you're coming from. Not.

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:26 am
by seemslikeadream
I'm not suggesting voting for someone...I am just stating reality

just the way it is


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhF47zXAC-g

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:40 am
by coffin_dodger
It's just words, from a politician.

Quite safe words in fact, because if there were a transparent investigation into 9/11, it may lead to a conclusion that is so profoundly at odds with current, accepted norms that the changes required to fix it would be insurmountable. If it happens, it'll be a more palatable yarn.

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:43 am
by Belligerent Savant
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Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous (to the status quo)

...unfortunately, she's not. Not because she doesn't appear to be earnest, but because she's powerless operating within the constructs of The Machine.

Despite my sentiment Re: the futility of voting, I'll be voting for her regardless. I enjoy pageantry on occasion.

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:48 am
by Belligerent Savant
coffin_dodger » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:40 am wrote:It's just words, from a politician.

Quite safe words in fact, because if there were a transparent investigation into 9/11, it may lead to a conclusion that is so profoundly at odds with current, accepted norms that the changes required to fix it would be insurmountable. If it happens, it'll be a more palatable yarn.



Quite right.

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:08 am
by seemslikeadream
1968 was the last time I was an idealistic voter

Year in which the highest number of American deaths were reported in Vietnam: 1968 (16,592 deaths reported)


16,592 DEATHS

it always ends up the lesser of two

don't get mad at me for stating reality...I watched death of my brothers and sisters on the TV every fucking night....that's where my ideology got me

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:35 am
by Belligerent Savant
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Let's dispense with the 'lesser of two evils' refrain.

It is EVIL, presented 2 ways.

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:38 am
by Harvey


Don't worry, never was. I'm trying to illustrate the unseen stresses which are creating the altering stances or leading discussion. For example this is the first thread on Jill Stein @ RI as far as I'm aware. We echo the mediated environment.

Judging by most of the comments above y'all have nothing to lose in voting for Stein and perhaps everything to gain. Am I wrong?

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:40 am
by seemslikeadream
Belligerent Savant » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:35 am wrote:.

Let's dispense with the 'lesser of two evils' refrain.

It is EVIL, presented 2 ways.



sounds good to me....we pick our poison

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:42 am
by seemslikeadream
Harvey » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:38 am wrote:


Don't worry, never was. I'm trying to illustrate the unseen stresses which are creating the altering stances or leading discussion. For example this is the first thread on Jill Stein @ RI as far as I'm aware. We echo the mediated environment.

Judging by most of the comments above y'all have nothing to lose in voting for Stein and perhaps everything to gain. Am I wrong?



nothing to lose.... nothing to gain

what's the gain?

making one feel better?

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:46 am
by Harvey
seemslikeadream » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:42 pm wrote:what's the gain?

making one feel better?


One positive reason to vote for any of the three. Sounds decisive to me. :wink

Re: Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:52 am
by seemslikeadream
Oh I will make my way through one more day in, hell
I'll swallow poison, until I grow immune


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF5LG2rHQSU

I will light the match this mornin' so I won't be alone
Watch as she lies silent for soon light will be gone
Oh I will stand arms outstretched pretend I'm free to roam
Oh I will make my way through one more day in, hell
How much difference does it make
How much difference does it make yeah

I will hold the candle till it burns up my arm
Oh I'll keep takin' punches until their will grows tired
Oh I will stare the sun down until my eyes go blind
Hey, I won't change direction, and I won't change my mind
How much difference does it make
How much difference does it make, how much difference

I'll swallow poison, until I grow immune
I will scream my lungs out till it fills this room
How much difference
How much difference does it make


never forget....there is no political solution

let's just fill this room