US Government rules on Gender Identity

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Re: US Government rules on Gender Identity

Postby Agent Orange Cooper » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:19 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... knows-best

A very sober documentary from the BBC entitled Transgender Kids: Who Knows Best? Highly recommended watching.

Details the witch hunt committed against therapists, detransitioned women, for not going along with the gender-affirmative party line. In what is probably the most unsurprising development imaginable, transactivists everywhere are losing their shit, calling for the program to be pulled altogether. So that's how you know it's something you should watch.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:41 pm

or you could just ask our incoming VP Pence
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Re: US Government rules on Gender Identity

Postby Agent Orange Cooper » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:24 pm

The BBC site doesn't work if you're outside the UK so here's a full download from archive.org:

https://archive.org/details/BBC-trans-kids

Adult transgender activists tried hard to stop this BBC documentary about so-called "transgender kids" from being aired in January 2017. Why were they so afraid of this film? Because it dared to be even-handed and show more than just the usual one-sided, activist propaganda. The documentary also presented compelling, scientific, fact-based arguments against coercively transsexualizing children who don't conform to sex role stereotypes (i.e. "gender").

More information about the "trans kids" phenomenon:

4thWaveNow: A community of parents & friends skeptical of the "transgender child/teen" trend
Transgender Trend: Parents questioning the trans narrative
Youth Gender Professionals: Professionals Thinking Critically about the Youth Transgender Narrative


Did you know the transgender movement has more than just a little bit of overlap with simple, old-school internalized homophobia? Probably not. "My little boy might be a girl now, but at least he isn't gay."
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Re: US Government rules on Gender Identity

Postby Project Willow » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:47 pm



It's a great doc.

The coldness of the transman at the end complaining about the attention given to detranistioners is astounding. When you're arguing for permanent treatments involving sterilization and surgical mutilation, you'll want to aim for a 0% failure rate.
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Re: US Government rules on Gender Identity

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:05 pm

Not sure if this has been posted here already: Transing a Five-Year-Old Tomboy:



Magdalen Berns is a lesbian, a feminist, a socialist, and a very witty woman, She's also a scientist - a recent graduate in physics. For speaking out on this topic, she has been subjected to harrassment and vilification, starting during her time at Edinburgh Uni. There are many other good short videos at her YouTube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvTTak ... 0qQ/videos

See, for example:

Reading Channel Hate Comments

Commentary: Non-Men, Front Holes & #CzarnyProtest

Response To "Caitlyn Jenner Meets Her Critics"

What Kind Of Fools Do Transgender UK and Stonewall Take Us For?

(None of these is more than about five minutes long, and they're all well worth watching. The last one I listed is also very funny.)
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Postby norton ash » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:13 pm

^^^^ I'm a fan as well. She 'cuts the crap' exceedingly well. Of course, in many ways I suppose I'm a baffled social conservative who thinks we're putting the liberation cart behind a team of unicorns.
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Re: US Government rules on Gender Identity

Postby Sounder » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:13 am

What is this cultural imprinting that is so strong in enforcing ideas that men act this way and women act that way? So much so that even people that promote a 'gender is fluid' line insist that those young folk that act 'off' in their gender expressions, are not of their apparent biological sex because what, social conditioning as to what makes one a male or a female is more germane to the issue than are sex organs?
All these things will continue as long as coercion remains a central element of our mentality.
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Re: US Government rules on Gender Identity

Postby Project Willow » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:55 pm



I used to say jokingly that philosophy gave me a headache, (I often felt like the left and the right side of my brain were at war with each other). Nope, it was just the Derrida and Foucault they had me on at school in the 80's, and you know, artist statements.
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Re: US Government rules on Gender Identity

Postby Heaven Swan » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:43 pm



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Re: US Government rules on Gender Identity

Postby kool maudit » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:15 am

'Gender' is a linguistic term; the appropriate word to describe differences in human biology and reproductive roles is 'sex'.
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Re: US Government rules on Gender Identity

Postby American Dream » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:56 am

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born again genderqueer, raised by memes

after switching to they/them, 90s baby cartoons like rugrats helped me figure out who to be.

I used to be a “tomboy.” I wasn’t trying to, it was just what people called me. I wore orange cargo pants, loved soccer and playing Mario Kart with Harris, my only friend. The summer I was twelve, I went through a growth spurt and lost weight. A bunkmate watched approvingly as I belted now-loose cargo shorts. “You’re skinny,” she told me, “now you’re a girl.”

I had a crush on her. I’d be a girl if she wanted. And so, Aries-style, I trust-fell into femme-hood, hoping that, if I was a skinny, pretty girl, then my femme friends wouldn’t hook up with their boy crushes – they’d hook up with me.

It didn’t happen. I was in the closet, and I made a bad girl. I couldn't fit the role. I couldn’t enjoy the things that made my femme friends feel empowered and loved – sex, clothes, friendship, any kind of social interaction. It felt like a game that I didn’t know how to play. I just knew that I was fucking up. I developed debilitating anxiety, and – because skinniness seemed like the key to femme-hood – an eating disorder as well. My favorite things in high school were running outside in winter, losing weight, and baths.


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My name is Jasper Murphy and I have a vagina. I’m involved in East London Community Activism but today I’m here to speak “as a trans person” about transgender issues. The term “transgender” is a broad term that refers to to a massive spectrum of people who in some way veer away from the gender written on their birth certificate. So, I cannot, in any way whatsoever, be representative of transgendered people. I can only talk about the world as I see it, from where I’m standing, as a transexual.

I’m a lucky tranny. First of all because I’m alive. And secondly because I have a family who loves me. That shouldn’t be lucky, but at the moment, it is. My own experience is quite unique so I thought I’d give you a quick history: At 3 years old my first sentence was “I’m a boy”, at 7 years old when I was still convinced that this was true, my parents took me to a psychologist. The psychologist said I probably have “Gender Dysphoria”. My parents talked to my school and allowed me to cut my hair and wear a boy’s uniform. When I was 8 I was referred on to a specialist in London (on the NHS) who I saw until I was 18. When I was 12 I legally changed my name which my granny paid for. So I’ve been living as male since I was about 7 or 8. I went through a full female puberty and eventually got testosterone when I was 21. I had surgery when I was 22. I’m 24 now so I’ve looked like this for about 2 years.

It’s not my intention to simple ask for a complacent acceptance of trans people- for people to just stop insulting us and beating us up… I want to talk about transphobia as an issue that affects all of us- and that we can all play a part in fighting. We must, as a society, be better at gender.

In the womb we all start off as female. People who come out as little boys are changed during the pregnancy when testosterone is introduced. The clitoris grows and becomes penis, and the labia becomes a scrotum. Woman are so-called because they’re meant to be like men, but with wombs- womb-man. But in reality, men are women with big clitorises. Bigclits. Most people come out with either a vagina or a penis, but some people are somewhere inbetween- these people are ‘intersex’. As soon as we’re born boys and girls are treated drasticallly differently- boys are given lego, girls are given dolls (and then people wonder about the lack of female engineers); girls are encouraged to care and talk about their feelings, whilst boys are told to be tough. Every boy and girl, to some extent, has to grapple with the difference between who they are, and what a Real Man is. What a Real Woman is. Every body suffers from the invention of the Man and the Woman. And I consider myself an extreme casualty of this- I don’t really consider myself a Man- but I know, violently, that I’m not a woman. I think that transpeople generally are an extreme casualty of this problem.

Society is organised into men and women and I don’t fit into either. If I were to have to go to prison, I could either be a man in an all female prison, or a man with a vagina in an all male-prison where privacy is not exactly a priority. If I were to be arrested and strip-searched I’ve got a choice between a male officer or a female police officer. But I’m not a man, that is not my sex, I am a transexual. There is now a Gender Recognition Certificate so that I can be recognised as either a Man or a Woman by the state. But I am not a Man or a Woman, I am a transexual. I could be treated as a man, go to a male prison, be searched by a male officer, get married to a woman. But I don’t want to get married, I don’t want to live in a society where people are sent to prison and strip searched by police. I don’t believe in leading a fight where we’re asking to government to deal with us more efficiently, to oppress us better. I don’t want to be integrated better a rotten system, a want something different altogether. I want to take part in creating a better world.

Prejudice against transmen, that’s me, is based on the sense that we’re trying to muscle in on the privilege of being male that we don’t deserve, we are inadequate, we don’t have penises, and if we do, they’re either weird and tiny or crap. We’re inadequate men, with big bums and crap willies.

Prejudice against transwomen is based on the sense that they’re degrading themselves, they’re funny, a joke, why would you want to be a woman? They’re trying to take a step down in society.

So transphobia is rooted in sexism. Some people believe that transwomen can’t possibly know what it’s like to be a woman because they haven’t experienced sexism. But the transphobia that transwoman get IS sexism, multiplied by a hundred!

Some people say that trans men are just trying to escape sexism by turning into men. Let me tell you, when you’re a transexual, you do not escape sexism, you are pushed right into an enormous swamp of sexism. When you experience both sides and more, you begin to see the sexism, you notice it when other people don’t, when you play with gender you’re witnessing the flow of power.

Sexism, and more specifically this form of sexism which is a reaction to people’s gender deviance- not being a Proper Man, or a Proper Woman, is something that seems to be ignored. It plays a huge part in homophobia- A gay boy, who is very masculine and handy with his fists is not likely to be bullied at school. School kids don’t usually see what their school mates find sexually attractive, they see how they behave. Effeminate boys are bullied for being effeminate- and the words the kids use are gay, and batty boy, but they’re being bullied because they’re not acting like Real Men, this is sexism, but we call it homophobia. And when you call it homophobia, what organisations are there helping the effeminate straight boy? He’s being told that it’s okay to be gay, but no one’s saying that it’s okay to be a bit girly. This is the same bullying that transexual people experience in the extreme, but it is in no way reserved for us.

The experience of transgendered people is at the lethally sharp end of the wedge- and it is a lethally sharp edge, the Transgender Day of Remembrance website shows that in 2009 130 transgendered people were reported murdered- but this is a universal problem, rooted in sexism, it affects all os us and we can all take a part in fighting it.

The invention of the Real Man and the Real Woman is enshrined in the economy. For as long as someone has to work all week to get a wage, to survive, and for as long as we have babies that have to be looked after, someone else has to work in the home, and bring up babies for free. At the moment, most of the time, the man works full time and the woman works for free in the home. It’s the unpaid labour that keeps the whole system running. Take it away, and the whole thing collapses. But that won’t change by messing around with gender, or by swapping it around and turning the patriarchy into a matriarchy, or mixing it up, or by taking turns… or by paying another woman minimum wage to do the job instead. For as long as this system keeps going, someone has to work in the home for free. And this is one of the most fundamental injustices the forms the foundation of our economy. As much as transgendered people might highlight that these are not two unchanging natural roles, a liberal plea for tolerance is not the force that will bring it down.

I want to come back to this idea that we need to, as a society, as a community, be better at gender. The transition from one gender role to another is not just about surgery, in fact surgery plays a very small role in it. For the most part, transition is social, because gender roles are social. As I mentioned before, I lived for 12 years as male without any surgery or hormones whatsoever. I now fit into the category of male because people call me ‘he’ and regard me as male. The fact that transition is social seems to be lost on most people, when someone comes out as trans, people tend to wait until that person is manly, or womanly, enough to convince them. The onus is put on the trans person to “act like a man” or “act like a woman” just to have their identity respected. This often means, that for transmen, we are rewarded for acting like macho idiots, for only then will people respect our identity. It should be everyone’s responsibility to respect someone’s identity, to play a part in the journey to becoming comfortable in their skin.

What is it we want with our Pride Marches and our activism?

The freedom to walk down the street, dressed how you like, kissing who you like, in a couple of expensive areas of central and west London? What about kissing in Clapton? Stratford? East Ham? What about being free in our working class communities where we actually live? When will we be free to express our love, our gender, our bodies without fear of being beaten up by gangs of teenage boys? And what about those teenage boys? Our neighbours? When will that teenage boy feel free to suck off his mate, or wear a dress, without fear of complete rejection or without thinking that that would make him an entirely different person?

It might be tempting, for those middle class homosexuals who have achieved their freedom, who are happily walking hand in hand down their little street in Hampstead, to pull the ladder up behind them and not be associated with transgenders, with us deviants, or with us working class queers in areas like Hackney, who still live surrounded by homophobia, transphobia, sexism. I think we can see that temptation when we look at what London Pride has become. And that’s why it’s important to have events like this, to keep our grassroots activism, and not accept anything less than absolute and complete freedom
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Re: US Government rules on Gender Identity

Postby Project Willow » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:21 pm

What happens when the "left" abandons women...

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Re: US Government rules on Gender Identity

Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:10 pm

One step closer to the trans "final solution."

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Re: US Government rules on Gender Identity

Postby American Dream » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:39 pm

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Anti-LGBTQ Activists Thank Trump For Withdrawing Transgender Student Protections
Brian Tashman | February 23, 2017 12:30 pm

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After years of smearing transgender youth as sexual predators, far-right activists scored a major victory when President Trump followed through yesterday on his campaign promise to rescind the strong federal guidelines issued by the Obama administration affirming that schools cannot discriminate on the basis of a student’s gender identity.

Last year, when the Departments of Justice and Education unveiled the now-withdrawn guidelines protecting transgender students, conservatives warned that the Obama administration was attempting to “create chaos,” impose “tyranny” and spread the “social, educational and spiritual molestation of our children.”

Carl Gallups, a Religious Right pastor elevated by Trump’s presidential campaign, reacted to the guidelines by saying that parents don’t “want their little six-year-old girl molested in the bathroom because some hairy guy decides he feels like a girl that day and follows their little pretty little girl into the bathroom under federal decree.”

Far-right activist Dave Daubenmire urged people to protest the rules with “pitchforks and torches” so as not to “let perverts violate their daughters’ restrooms.”

Bryan Fischer of American Family Radio characterized the guidelines as satanic and “Trunews” host Rick Wiles called for “massive disobedience” to stop President Obama and Satan from raping children: “He’s coming into the schools to rape your children. Let’s be honest about it. Satan wants to rape your children.”

Unsurprisingly, ultraconservative activists were thrilled by the Trump administration’s decision to withdraw the guidelines.

“We applaud the Trump administration for taking a stand against the Obama administration attempts to impose its unlawful and harmful LGBT agenda on public schools,” Liberty Counsel Chairman Mat Staver said yesterday. “The Obama directive is a lawless act and defies common sense. Allowing boys to use private facilities for girls violates the right to privacy and places girls at risk of sexual abuse.”

Brian Brown of the National Organization for Marriage, who had railed against Obama for fancying “himself a god” and imposing the “insane and dangerous” guidelines, called Trump’s move “a huge victory for common sense and for protecting our wives and daughters from predatory activity in intimate spaces like locker rooms and restrooms.”

Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, who had said “Congress should begin impeachment proceedings” to stop the “evil” rules, applauded the Trump administration’s actions, arguing that under the Obama guidelines, a “child’s innocence” was “sacrificed on the altar of government imposed political correctness.”

“The Trump administration’s reversal of this mandate on schools is a victory for parents, children, and privacy.

“The Obama administration resorted to this coercive policy because they knew parents and schools could never be persuaded to force boys and girls to shower together, stay together on school trips, and use the same locker rooms and bathrooms. As it turned out, the persistence of parents was far stronger than the government’s power of coercion. Parents refused to allow their child’s innocence to be sacrificed on the altar of government imposed political correctness.

“Today’s announcement fulfills President Trump’s campaign promise to get the federal government out of the business of dictating school shower and bathroom policies. The federal government has absolutely no right to strip parents and local schools of their rights to provide a safe learning environment for children.

“What we were taught in kindergarten, boys use the boys room and girls use the girls room, was made old fashioned by liberal bureaucrats. Thanks to the Trump administration, parents and schools will remain free to protect the privacy and well-being of every student,” concluded Perkins.


Penny Nance of Concerned Women for America said “there is simply no reason to burden all children and force those who feel uncomfortable with this to ‘just deal with it’ because of political correctness,” claiming that the Trump administration’s decision to withdraw the guidelines “should be supported by all, including transgender rights advocates.”

Alliance Defending Freedom Senior Counsel Gary McCaleb asserted that the Trump administration move “restores common sense,” and Dan Harrington of Students and Parents for Privacy thanked Trump for “restoring sanity to our schools.”

Feeling vindicated, Trump’s Religious Right allies are now likely to push for further rollbacks of LGBTQ protections.
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