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...Donald Trump as the “human Molotov cocktail that they’ve been waiting for – the human hand grenade that they can legally throw into the system that stole their lives from them.”

Supporters see Trump as ‘human Molotov cocktail’: Michael Moore
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First posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 04:03 PM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 04:15 PM EDT
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Searcher08 » 04 Nov 2016 11:02 wrote:There is an outsider wildcard aspect about Trump that Zizek really nails here. I'll bet that many Trump supporters know what a douche he is, that he is lots of bad things, but look on him like a grenade to roll into the boardroom of the elite and hope it goes off.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/

Searcher08 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:02 am wrote:There is an outsider wildcard aspect about Trump that Zizek really nails here. I'll bet that many Trump supporters know what a douche he is, that he is lots of bad things, but look on him like a grenade to roll into the boardroom of the elite and hope it goes off.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/

Joao » Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:30 pm wrote:Does anybody here take Žižek seriously and find him coherent and informative? Not meant as a dig at the OP but an actual question.

If so, perhaps you could link to something of his you find worthwhile (but no movie reviews, pop culture analyses, or "Pervert's Guides," please). Dense academic style and bizarro-left politics aren't necessarily a problem, but at the bottom of it all he seems to be nothing but spectacle and bullshit. I'd love to be wrong and have my world enriched by his thought...

Joao » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:30 pm wrote:Does anybody here take Žižek seriously and find him coherent and informative? Not meant as a dig at the OP but an actual question.

If so, perhaps you could link to something of his you find worthwhile (but no movie reviews, pop culture analyses, or "Pervert's Guides," please). Dense academic style and bizarro-left politics aren't necessarily a problem, but at the bottom of it all he seems to be nothing but spectacle and bullshit. I'd love to be wrong and have my world enriched by his thought...

brekin » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:39 pm wrote:
It's like saying yeah the bridge process is fucked, the bridge process is corrupt, the bridge process is beholden to special interests, the bridge process is screwing the middle class, the bridge process serves the elite, so let's make the guy who most likely will blow the bridge up in charge of it, and have it collapse into the river. Because even though we all depend on the bridge for our livelihood and way of life it's time for a change. Because new is good, even if it is toxic, misogynistic, racist, narcissistic, xenophobic, alienating, bullying "new", having it out in the open is, refreshing, reassuring. Destroying the bridge completely, you know, will be a good "wake up call" for everyone, because then things will really haven't to change, even though it will be so fucked there will be nothing to repair.

dada » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:37 am wrote:

brekin » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:39 pm wrote:
It's like saying yeah the bridge process is fucked, the bridge process is corrupt, the bridge process is beholden to special interests, the bridge process is screwing the middle class, the bridge process serves the elite, so let's make the guy who most likely will blow the bridge up in charge of it, and have it collapse into the river. Because even though we all depend on the bridge for our livelihood and way of life it's time for a change. Because new is good, even if it is toxic, misogynistic, racist, narcissistic, xenophobic, alienating, bullying "new", having it out in the open is, refreshing, reassuring. Destroying the bridge completely, you know, will be a good "wake up call" for everyone, because then things will really haven't to change, even though it will be so fucked there will be nothing to repair.

Well said. Reminds me of the 'revolutionary left' in support of brexit. Who cares if it results in the rise of fascism? White male revolutionary isn't first on the list of targets. They must think they'll figure something out before it's their turn to be rounded up. As long as capitalism crumbles, they're happy.

TRUMP: The establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election. As an example, just one single trade deal they'd like to pass involves trillions of dollars controlled by many countries, corporations, and lobbyists.

For those who control the levers of power in Washington and for the global special interests, they partner with these people that don't have your good in mind. Our campaign represents a true existential threat, like they haven't seen before. This is not simply another four-year election. This is a crossroads in the history of our civilization that will determine whether or not we, the people, reclaim control over our government. The political establishment that is trying to stop us is the same group responsible for our disastrous trade deals, massive illegal immigration, and economic and foreign policies that have bled our country dry. The political establishment has brought about the destruction of our factories and our jobs, as they flee to Mexico, China, and other countries all around the world.

Our just-announced job numbers are anemic. Our gross domestic product, or GDP, is barely above 1 percent and going down. Workers in the United States are making less than they were almost 20 years ago, and yet they are working harder, but so am I, working harder. That I can tell you. It's a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities.

Just look at what this corrupt establishment has done to cities like Detroit, Flint, Michigan, and rural towns in Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, and all across our country. Take a look at what's going on. They've stripped away these towns bare and raided the wealth for themselves and taken our jobs away, out of our country, never to return unless I'm elected president. The Clinton machine is at the center of this power structure.


We've seen this firsthand in the WikiLeaks documents in which Hillary Clinton meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of US sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends, and her donors.”

Harvey wrote:If I read Zizek, the subtext is directed to the left, "stop being afraid of Trump (there are some positives) and vote for Stein."

Eugene V Debs I believe: "I'd rather vote for something I want and not get it than vote for something I don't want and get it."