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Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:18 am

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Fuck you very much.


Those of you who like, can now read the following.


But do not read it, except out loud -- and be LOUD when you do:

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Let America Be America Again


Let America be America again.
Let it be the dream it used to be.
Let it be the pioneer on the plain
Seeking a home where he himself is free.

(America never was America to me.)

Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed—
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.

(It never was America to me.)

O, let my land be a land where Liberty
Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath,
But opportunity is real, and life is free,
Equality is in the air we breathe.

(There’s never been equality for me,
Nor freedom in this “homeland of the free.”)

Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark?
And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?

I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart,
I am the Negro bearing slavery’s scars.
I am the red man driven from the land,
I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek—
And finding only the same old stupid plan
Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.

I am the young man, full of strength and hope,
Tangled in that ancient endless chain
Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land!
Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need!
Of work the men! Of take the pay!
Of owning everything for one’s own greed!

I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil.
I am the worker sold to the machine.
I am the Negro, servant to you all.
I am the people, humble, hungry, mean—
Hungry yet today despite the dream.
Beaten yet today—O, Pioneers!
I am the man who never got ahead,
The poorest worker bartered through the years.

Yet I’m the one who dreamt our basic dream
In the Old World while still a serf of kings,
Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true,
That even yet its mighty daring sings
In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned
That’s made America the land it has become.
O, I’m the man who sailed those early seas
In search of what I meant to be my home—
For I’m the one who left dark Ireland’s shore,
And Poland’s plain, and England’s grassy lea,
And torn from Black Africa’s strand I came
To build a “homeland of the free.”

The free?

Who said the free? Not me?
Surely not me? The millions on relief today?
The millions shot down when we strike?
The millions who have nothing for our pay?
For all the dreams we’ve dreamed
And all the songs we’ve sung
And all the hopes we’ve held
And all the flags we’ve hung,
The millions who have nothing for our pay—
Except the dream that’s almost dead today.

O, let America be America again—
The land that never has been yet—
And yet must be—the land where every man is free.
The land that’s mine—the poor man’s, Indian’s, Negro’s, ME—
Who made America,
Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain,
Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain,
Must bring back our mighty dream again.

Sure, call me any ugly name you choose—
The steel of freedom does not stain.
From those who live like leeches on the people’s lives,
We must take back our land again,
America!

O, yes,
I say it plain,
America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath—
America will be!

Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death,
The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies,
We, the people, must redeem
The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers.
The mountains and the endless plain—
All, all the stretch of these great green states—
And make America again!


-- Langston Hughes, 1935

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:32 am

I really like Mr. Hughes so this gets then nod as our final Campaign Money 2016 Thread.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby coffin_dodger » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:38 am

Congratulations are most certainly in order. Well done, Jack - your shared pathological dismissal of anyone that doesn't agree with your assertions as being stoopid has really paid dividends. And shall continue to do so, if this thread title is an indication of future intent. Bravo!
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:21 pm

coffin_dodger » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:38 am wrote:Congratulations are most certainly in order. Well done, Jack - your shared pathological dismissal of anyone that doesn't agree with your assertions as being stoopid has really paid dividends. And shall continue to do so, if this thread title is an indication of future intent. Bravo!


Yes, my mean posts on RI, with Lena Dunham's videos a close second, were the decisive factor in provoking an overwhelming majority of white older male voters in the US (with and without college degrees) to value their conditioned disgust with the left-liberal edumacated Others and the freeloading N's outweigh their own interests (in most cases). My words here alienated them from their better natures, and so they voted for the guy who was pitching old-school racism, misogyny and general anger at the world. This also happened with a smaller majority of white older female voters. If I had not called you stupid on this board, the thing would have gone differently.

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby KUAN » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:27 pm

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby norton ash » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:39 pm

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Or full measures of both working side-by-side.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby brainpanhandler » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:47 pm

PTSD. I cried myself to sleep last night after working a 14 hour shift. I am spent.

While I cannot help but be interested in the morbid post mortem of last night's shit show and I might eventually be able to offer some insights as I have some up close and personal experience with Trump supporters... I can't help but mourn what is to come.

The republicans control the house, the senate, the white house and will shortly stack the supreme court for generations to come with Scalia clones. With that much power and control they will further entrench their power in ways that will be difficult to impossible to undo anytime soon. And this at precisely the time when we need to move in exactly the opposite direction.

This is truly tragic. This is not something we will be able to fix with the midterms or in four years.

There is no ray of sunshine. None. That is all.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:48 pm

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What is the most important tabulated result of the 2016 election? You can already guess and I'll get to it in a minute, but first:

My friends, you may be smart, but I do not need to read your analyses of why a fearful majority of older white men in the US (and a smaller one of older white women) did not really choose the old-school racism, misogyny and raw anger at the rest of the universe that Trump served up daily, but in reality revolted against bad trade deals. I already know my countrypeople. I am not isolated from them, they are in my own family, they are people I grew up with. And I can already spell neoliberalism. Everything associated with that term shall now go into double-turbo mode, ironically enough for the nation of patsies.

And if you're going to lodge surely valid complaints against identity politics, make sure you start with the biggest identity group within the country: older white men (and a smaller one of older white women). Trump set out to win the identity politics derby, and he did.

If, on the other hand, you agree that the following are the most important results of the 2016 election, then I want to fight together with you to establish a genuinely representative universal suffrage democracy in the United States:

All voters (99% of precincts reporting).

Hillary Clinton
Democratic Party
48%
59,647,621

Donald Trump
Republican Party
47%
59,438,580

Cumulative vote in House elections: Numbers pending, but you will see something similar, with a larger margin favoring the Democrats.

And then the popular vote winner delivers the ritualized concession speech and says of her opponent: "We must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president."

The Electoral College and gerrymandering are just the beginning of all that must change. What did that old man many of you mocked as unelectable say, earlier this year? "We need a political revolution."

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:53 pm

I appreciate the effort, Jack, but I'm just too zombified this morning for Hughes. My mood is more along the lines of this unsung gem from Warren Beatty's screenplay Shampoo. This scene takes place the morning after the '68 election, when Nixon has just been elected president:

Beatty (George) is taking to Jack Warden (Lester):

Lester sits and stares into his drink.

LESTER (CONT'D)

I tell you, you never know... you

just never know... one minute

you're here and the next... I mean

a man at my age, how long have I

got -- ten years? Five years? I

wish I knew... what I was living

for.


George looks at him.


LESTER (CONT'D)

... You can lose it all; you can

lose it all no matter who you

are... I don't know, what's the

point of having it all. Look at me.

I don't have a goddam thing... the

market's terrible right now, went

down ten points last week, goddam

Lyndon Johnson!


GEORGE

Oh yeah...


LESTER

Yeah,, it goes up a little and then

it goes down, maybe Nixon will do

something. What's the difference,

they're all a bunch of jerks. I

wouldn't let 'em run my business, I

can tell you that much. Not if I

had any choice in the matter.

(after a moment)

I don't know what to do with you. I

don't know, I don't know what's

right or wrong anymore.


GEORGE

I don't either, Lester, I swear to

you I don't.



Best case scenario, best case: Trump is just another George W. with Guiliani/Gingrich as his alternating Cheneys, occasionally throwing Pence an evangelical bone. I don't even want to contemplate worst case.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:00 pm

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Believe in evolution, Jack? Maybe in some far-off time in a future life your detractors will be able to offer their disdain in a response more suitable to the framing of your OP. Perhaps, something like this:

Behold the Villain's dire disgrace!
Not Death itself can end.
He finds no peaceful Burial-Place,
His breathless Corpse, no friend.

Torn from the Root, that wicked Tongue
Which daily swore and cursed.
Those Eyeballs from their Sockets wrung,
That glowed with lawless Lust!

His Heart exposed to prying Eyes,
To Pity has no claim;
But, dreadful from his Bones shall rise,
His Monument of Shame.


Extirpation is always possible, so there's always hope.

My apologies to Hogarth.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:09 pm

norton ash » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:39 pm wrote:Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Or full measures of both working side-by-side.


I love that one, and always reply: Never let platitudes think for you.

Malice and stupidity are both abundant resources globally, and not only are they not mutually exclusive, they are commonly mixed in the same cocktail. Add a dash of denial and voila: splendid!

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby stickdog99 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:31 pm

if we make the assumption that the election results have any veracity

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby brekin » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:43 pm

What did that old man many of you mocked as unelectable say, earlier this year? "We need a political revolution."


Jack, last night we just had a revolution, and that unelectable old man was partly responsible.

Bernie never was going to happen.
Mmh, speaking of, I wonder what his latest tweet is?

Election Day should be a national holiday so that everyone has the time and opportunity to vote. Nov. 7
https://twitter.com/SenSanders?ref_src= ... r%5Eauthor

Yes, another one for the dream drawer.
Hopefully, in four years we will actually still have an Election Day.
Thanks Bernie!
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:58 pm

stickdog99 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:31 pm wrote:if we make the assumption that the election results have any veracity



Stupid Angry Whites



Yes, that has to be an assumption...given that the machines can't be rigged, Its most definitely the racists.

Birther in Chief. I too know my countrymen. the gloating and crowing today is omnipresent. I look like them. The things I have seen and heard.
There are some vile fuckers out there.

In fact the solid knowledge of these people and how they think are my strongest argument to myself that the voting machines are NOT rigged.
I'm in the south, so assume the worst.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby coffin_dodger » Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:19 pm

JackRiddler » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:21 pm wrote:
coffin_dodger » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:38 am wrote:Congratulations are most certainly in order. Well done, Jack - your shared pathological dismissal of anyone that doesn't agree with your assertions as being stoopid has really paid dividends. And shall continue to do so, if this thread title is an indication of future intent. Bravo!


Yes, my mean posts on RI, with Lena Dunham's videos a close second, were the decisive factor in provoking an overwhelming majority of white older male voters in the US (with and without college degrees) to value their conditioned disgust with the left-liberal edumacated Others and the freeloading N's outweigh their own interests (in most cases). My words here alienated them from their better natures, and so they voted for the guy who was pitching old-school racism, misogyny and general anger at the world. This also happened with a smaller majority of white older female voters. If I had not called you stupid on this board, the thing would have gone differently.

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I wasn't being facetious in my post above.
Can you let me have a link to the stats showing that Trump voters were, and I quote - "an overwhelming majority of white older male voters". That's rhetorical btw, because no such stats exist, obviously.
I think Jeff Wells doesn't come here any more because it was slowly but surely taken over by the Thought Police. I wonder if now that their grip is uncurling from our throats, he might come back.
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