The Rise of Bigot America Thread

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Postby SonicG » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:27 am

See my post above about the winery...I didn't realize it was a tangent from that question... :wallhead: :wallhead: :wallhead:

I will just leave this here:
‘Unite against fascism’: Fearless women battling ISIS memorialize Heather Heyer

he female members of the anti-ISIS YPG militia in Syria were already badass enough — but their response to the killing of Heather Heyer by neo-Nazi James Fields, Jr. solidified their status.

“As women who have suffered at the hands of Daesh [ISIS] we know well the dangers that fascist, racist, patriarchal and nationalist groups and organizations pose,” read a statement from female fighters from the Yazidi religious minority. “Once again men of this mind-set, this time in America, have martyred a woman, Heather Heyer, who was resisting against the division and destruction of communities.”

Like the Kurdish militias they fight with, Yazidi women are targeted specifically for their difference by ISIS. Their stories of sex slavery are brutal — and makes their solidarity with Heyer and the counterprotesters in Charlottesville all the more poignant.

“We believe that Heather Heyer’s struggle is our struggle and that the fight against fascism is a global battle,” the Yazidi women’s statement continued. “For this reason, we are calling on women around the world to unite against fascism and put an end to terrorist groups like Daesh and those made from the same cloth that kill women like Heather.”
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Re: The Rise of Bigot America Thread

Postby semper occultus » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:35 am

8bitagent » 16 Aug 2017 04:46 wrote:@seemslikeadream: spot on analogy with the manson helter skelter thing...


that helter skelter thing the extreme left used to think was pretty awwwwwesome man

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OK eta "some on the extreme left"
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:06 am

i'll swallow poison, until i grow immune
i will scream my lungs out till it fills this room




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCCXVC_xbDQ

i will light the match this mornin', so i won't be alone
watch as she lies silent, for soon light will be gone
i will stand arms outstretched, pretend i'm free to roam
i will make my way, through, one more day in hell...
how much difference does it make
how much difference does it make...
i will hold the candle till it burns up my arm
i'll keep takin' punches until their will grows tired
i will stare the sun down until my eyes go blind
hey i won't change direction, and i won't change my mind
how much difference does it make
how much difference does it make..
how much difference...
i'll swallow poison, until i grow immune
i will scream my lungs out till it fills this room
how much difference
how much difference
how much difference does it make
how much difference does it make...



hey i won't change direction, and i won't change my mind



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Even the nuclear football guy looks a little freaked out
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Re: The Rise of Bigot America Thread

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:53 pm

8bitagent » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:46 pm wrote:@seemslikeadream: spot on analogy with the manson helter skelter thing, had to use that one myself in my above post.

I know we've clashed over the Russian-gate thing. I still maintain the focus is to deflect guilt of the DNC/Hillary campaign railroading Bernie.

However if Trump is to be completely delegitimized and for the GOP to distance himself(or impeachment), its the Charlottesville fallout more than
Mueller's Mccarthy hunt that has a better chance.

Because clearly, we went from goofy Tea Party-Birther-Bhenghazi nonsense to pretty frightening "Hitler did no wrong" with the right...the Overton window wasnt pushed recently, it was blown up



We're all good 8bitagent I have always liked you and I do not believe you ever personally attacked me...just enthusiastically disagreed with me :bigsmile which is perfectly fine ..but remember this.... trump IS married to the Russian mob....has laundered money for Russian oligarchs and that has nothing to do with the DNC ...that's all him
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:09 pm

Also its pretty surreal...Chelsea Manning is out of prison, while Julian Assange more and more seems like a mouth piece for the alt right. Sadly a number of former leftist activists/Occupy/Libertarian/anti war people
seem to have gone toward that dark path.


seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:53 pm wrote:
8bitagent » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:46 pm wrote:@seemslikeadream: spot on analogy with the manson helter skelter thing, had to use that one myself in my above post.

I know we've clashed over the Russian-gate thing. I still maintain the focus is to deflect guilt of the DNC/Hillary campaign railroading Bernie.

However if Trump is to be completely delegitimized and for the GOP to distance himself(or impeachment), its the Charlottesville fallout more than
Mueller's Mccarthy hunt that has a better chance.

Because clearly, we went from goofy Tea Party-Birther-Bhenghazi nonsense to pretty frightening "Hitler did no wrong" with the right...the Overton window wasnt pushed recently, it was blown up



We're all good 8bitagent I have always liked you and I do not believe you ever personally attacked me...just enthusiastically disagreed with me :bigsmile which is perfectly fine ..but remember this.... trump IS married to the Russian mob....has laundered money for Russian oligarchs and that has nothing to do with the DNC ...that's all him


I'll admit, I let my quasi fanatical pro Bernie side cloud for a lot of last year and some of this year, certain things. I apologize for my mocking tone at times. Part of it was a kneejerk reaction to "russian hysteria", tho we clearly arent dealing with communist russia anymore. I do feel silly for having started a thread detailing all the crimes of Putin and somehow seemingly defending them. I still dont believe they physically hacked the election, but theres no doubt they tried to influence the election.

The relationship between Putin, Oligarchs, Russian mob, Oil, FSB and racist Russian far right as well as war crimes is definitely something I can never deny. Russia should be tried for war crimes in Syria at the very least.
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Re: The Rise of Bigot America Thread

Postby Morty » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:50 pm

8bitagent wrote:Russia should be tried for war crimes in Syria at the very least.

Right after the USA has its day in the dock for war crimes and crimes against the peace in Syria, yes?
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Re: The Rise of Bigot America Thread

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:39 pm

8bitagent » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:39 pm wrote:@stillrobertpaulsen:

I've no doubt we're going to be seeing all sorts of Mcveigh, "The Order", Roof and Breivik type of horror. That insane press conference today by Trump was the "duck in a noose" helter skelter signal whether Trump realizes it or not. Or I should say "day of the noose" to take a theme from The Turner Diaries. This whole bed bath and brooks brothers khaki makeover of neo nazis displayed Friday night was always meant as a sick joke. At the core of that movement is exactly what Germany saw with the NSU in the early 90s. Tragically, I also feel you will see FBI involvement in stirring up their own radicalized white nationalist plots, as seen recently with the 23 year old in the oklahoma city bank bomb plot. This will give cover to the far right/alt right "patriots" and "fash" far right who claim any neo nazi violence is merely a few FBI stirred up bad apples. "Fed False flags", taking all responsibility from so called "lone wolves" who will commit horrendous acts of terror, vandalism, intimidation, street violence and assassinations. Then the other half will openly cheer all these nuts, calling them "/ourguy/" on online forums and anonymous spaces online.

As evidenced in leaked pix and video of the Unite the Right's secret coordination chat rooms, it was all high fives, jokes and not so subtle hopes that the deaths from Saturday will help spark the race war.
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Because for all the "were a non violent white advocacy movement, we just want our own peaceful ethnostate" crapola messaging, underneath is the same violent nutjobs of the late 80s portland skinhead or 90s mcveigh types

The irony is, this modern extremist movement collectively worships a scene starring a black actor and directed by two transsexual women and a jewish producer(AKA The Matrix), where the redpill/redpilled term comes from and which is center to modern neo nazi ideology.

Today's bizarre unhinged president trump press conference is going to be seen as that moment where even his Fox News/Alex Jones/Tea Party-But "Not quite racist-racist" and Rino GOP supporters are going to have to do some soul searching...or double down and declare being "redpilled" now


I think your assessment of how future events might unfold in the wake of this mess is right on the money, 8bitagent. The white supremacists are definitely celebrating the violence at Charlottesville as a success for their cause. That's bad enough, but I can definitely see the FBI stepping in on behalf of the Deep State to foment even worse violence and sowing further discord. Because I don't see Trump as someone the Deep State didn't want in the White House - no candidate ever was - he is exactly the sort of guy they need there to deepen the society divisions they thrive on.

My hope is that the gross absurdity of Trump's press conference might open the eyes of people who view the antifa with disdain to the reprehensibility of the "both sides" bullshit moral equivalency argument. One side held a rally to glorify bigotry, the other side came out to oppose that bigotry, a bigotry I might add that encompasses the historical justification for slavery and fascism. This is not an issue anyone with a conscience can fence-sit on or strike a Pontius Pilate pose. I'm glad you understand that.

Thanks for pointing out that delicious irony! I had no idea white supremacists found identity in The Matrix. They didn't get the message - red-pilling is not a synonym for giving in to hatred and fear.
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Re: The Rise of Bigot America Thread

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:48 pm

My hope is that the gross absurdity of Trump's press conference might open the eyes of people who view the antifa with disdain to the reprehensibility of the "both sides" bullshit moral equivalency argument. One side held a rally to glorify bigotry, the other side came out to oppose that bigotry, a bigotry I might add that encompasses the historical justification for slavery and fascism. This is not an issue anyone with a conscience can fence-sit on or strike a Pontius Pilate pose. I'm glad you understand that.


I would like to believe this. However, after listening today to the number of callers to Tuesday's On Point program on Charloteseville (a WBUR Boston public radio program broadcast nationally by NPR, and hardly aimed at a typical Fox News audience), who repeated GOP/alt-right talking points about how there are more leftist hate groups than the right, how BLM is composed of even worse, more violent murderous thugs, who continued the moral equivalency and argued groups like BLM are actually worse than neo-Nazis and have brought this about with Obama's help, I am increasingly disheartened.
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Re: The Rise of Bigot America Thread

Postby Morty » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:45 am

I should have done more research before making comments in this thread. I apologise for coming in half-baked. I didn't know anything about the march in Charlottesville beyond its title - "Unite the Right" - and the title turned out to be completely misleading.

Organiser dude has a funny, if pedestrian, history:

Report: ‘Unite the Right’ Organizer Jason Kessler Was Obama Supporter Involved With Occupy Movement

Jason Kessler

The comments I made still stand. If you want theatre sports, if you want to take the law into your own hands, if you want to conjure up a civil war, keep on punching nazis. I'll be happy to watch from the peanut gallery. But from a conflict resolution point of view, going low ain't gonna fly in the land of freedom of speech. Antifa's "no platform" policy is fascistic. It's the wrong way to go about things. The USA is pretty much on its own in "advanced democracies" with its enshrined-in-the-constitution freedom of speech mantra. Everywhere else has done the hard work (or taken the easy way out) and created hate speech laws to put some pragmatic controls on what people can say and do in public (or had heavy-handed laws foisted upon them). Freedom of speech is the ideal, anti-hate laws are a necessary evil. Care is required to come up with laws that don't take too much freedom away.

You want to know why you have such a persistent neo-nazi problem in the USA?* It's because you have unbridled freedom of speech. Hate speech laws let people know that you can't say anything you fucking want in public. Antifa should be campaigning for well thought out hate laws, but of course, as with gun laws, advancement is crippled by the constitution/bill of rights. The demise of the USA seems to be built into it at its origins. But there still is time to bend rather than break.

Punching nazis is an adolescent solution to a problem, just as thinking that complete freedom of speech should be an absolute right in a multi-ethnic society of 300+ million is an immature position to hold.

*A persistent neo-nazi problem, but I must say, that's the least of our worries. They are a cottage industry. They would easily be put out of business, if push came to shove, because public feeling is so much against them (already attendees of last weekend's march are being identified and some are losing their jobs over it). The real problem is that the USA is ALREADY a kind of national socialist state, but doesn't even recognise it. The right carries on about nasty bad big government, but military spending is never questioned. The military is what the United Socialist States of America is all about. It is a socialist enterprise. A perverted one, but socialist none the less. And the trouble is currently everyone committed to progressive change seems to think Trump and the cottage industry are the big deal, rather than the trillion dollar megadeath cooperative.
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Re: The Rise of Bigot America Thread

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:52 am

"Donald Trump is politically inept, morally barren and temperamentally unfit for office."

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After Charlottesville
Donald Trump has no grasp of what it means to be president

U-turns, self-regard and equivocation are not what it takes

Aug 19th 2017


DEFENDERS of President Donald Trump offer two arguments in his favour—that he is a businessman who will curb the excesses of the state; and that he will help America stand tall again by demolishing the politically correct taboos of left-leaning, establishment elites. From the start, these arguments looked like wishful thinking. After Mr Trump’s press conference in New York on August 15th they lie in ruins.

The unscripted remarks were his third attempt to deal with violent clashes in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend (see article). In them the president stepped back from Monday’s—scripted—condemnation of the white supremacists who had marched to protest against the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee, a Confederate general, and fought with counter-demonstrators, including some from the left. In New York, as his new chief of staff looked on dejected, Mr Trump let rip, stressing once again that there was blame “on both sides”. He left no doubt which of those sides lies closer to his heart.

Mr Trump is not a white supremacist. He repeated his criticism of neo-Nazis and spoke out against the murder of Heather Heyer (see our Obituary). Even so, his unsteady response contains a terrible message for Americans. Far from being the saviour of the Republic, their president is politically inept, morally barren and temperamentally unfit for office.
Self-harm
Start with the ineptness. In last year’s presidential election Mr Trump campaigned against the political class to devastating effect. Yet this week he has bungled the simplest of political tests: finding a way to condemn Nazis. Having equivocated at his first press conference on Saturday, Mr Trump said what was needed on Monday and then undid all his good work on Tuesday—briefly uniting Fox News and Mother Jones in their criticism, surely a first. As business leaders started to resign enmasse from his advisory panels, the White House disbanded them. Mr Trump did, however, earn the endorsement of David Duke, a former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

The extreme right will stage more protests across America. Mr Trump has complicated the task of containing their marches and keeping the peace. The harm will spill over into the rest of his agenda, too. His latest press conference was supposed to be about his plans to improve America’s infrastructure, which will require the support of Democrats. He needlessly set back those efforts, as he has so often in the past. “Infrastructure week” in June was drowned out by an investigation into Russian meddling in the election—an investigation Mr Trump helped bring about by firing the director of the FBI in a fit of pique. Likewise, repealing Obamacare collapsed partly because he lacked the knowledge and charisma to win over rebel Republicans. He reacted to that setback by belittling the leader of the Senate Republicans, whose help he needs to pass legislation. So much for getting things done.

Mr Trump’s inept politics stem from a moral failure. Some counter-demonstrators were indeed violent, and Mr Trump could have included harsh words against them somewhere in his remarks. But to equate the protest and the counter-protest reveals his shallowness. Video footage shows marchers carrying fascist banners, waving torches, brandishing sticks and shields, chanting “Jews will not replace us”. Footage of the counter-demonstration mostly shows average citizens shouting down their opponents. And they were right to do so: white supremacists and neo-Nazis yearn for a society based on race, which America fought a world war to prevent. Mr Trump’s seemingly heartfelt defence of those marching to defend Confederate statues spoke to the degree to which white grievance and angry, sour nostalgia is part of his world view.

At the root of it all is Mr Trump’s temperament. In difficult times a president has a duty to unite the nation. Mr Trump tried in Monday’s press conference, but could not sustain the effort for even 24 hours because he cannot get beyond himself. A president needs to rise above the point-scoring and to act in the national interest. Mr Trump cannot see beyond the latest slight. Instead of grasping that his job is to honour the office he inherited, Mr Trump is bothered only about honouring himself and taking credit for his supposed achievements.

Presidents have come in many forms and still commanded the office. Ronald Reagan had a moral compass and the self-knowledge to delegate political tactics. LBJ was a difficult man but had the skill to accomplish much that was good. Mr Trump has neither skill nor self-knowledge, and this week showed that he does not have the character to change.

This is a dangerous moment. America is cleft in two. After threatening nuclear war with North Korea, musing about invading Venezuela and equivocating over Charlottesville, Mr Trump still has the support of four-fifths of Republican voters. Such popularity makes it all the harder for the country to unite.

This leads to the question of how Republicans in public life should treat Mr Trump. Those in the administration face a hard choice. Some will feel tempted to resign. But his advisers, particularly the three generals sitting at the top of the Pentagon, the National Security Council and as Mr Trump’s chief of staff, are better placed than anyone to curb the worst instincts of their commander-in-chief.

An Oval Office-shaped hole
For Republicans in Congress the choice should be clearer. Many held their noses and backed Mr Trump because they thought he would advance their agenda. That deal has not paid off. Mr Trump is not a Republican, but the solo star of his own drama. By tying their fate to his, they are harming their country and their party. His boorish attempts at plain speaking serve only to poison national life. Any gains from economic reform—and the booming stockmarket and low unemployment owe more to the global economy, tech firms and dollar weakness than to him—will come at an unacceptable price.

Republicans can curb Mr Trump if they choose to. Rather than indulging his outrages in the hope that something good will come of it, they must condemn them. The best of them did so this week. Others should follow.
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Re: The Rise of Bigot America Thread

Postby Cordelia » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:24 am

liminalOyste » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:58 pm wrote:
If you are fighting to prevent a statue of Robert E. Lee from being taken down, you are, in fact, a white supremacist.


I am bewildered by the level of reductionism in this sentiment. I don't think all statues of the confederacy should be removed. Not yet at least. I'd far rather see them re-worked or re-engaged by public artists for instance. And I think removing the signifiers that communicate the role white supremacy has played in US history (and our state itself) is very dangerous territory. Happy to be disagreed with roundly but ffs, there are many arguments here to be made by non and anti white supremacists *against* wholesale removal.



I lifted the above from the 'Trump is Dangerous' and agree with Liminal's response to the statement quoted. :wallhead: such a black or white conclusion! Years ago I spent a lot of time in Charlottesville. It’s a very prosperous university (and party) town dominated by the prestigious and expensive University of Virginia, which was founded by Thomas Jefferson, a slave owner and was built, in part, by slaves.

Slavery at the University of Virginia

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The University of Virginia utilized the labor of enslaved African Americans from the earliest days of its construction, in 1817, until the end of the American Civil War (1861–1865). Most of the university's first enslaved laborers were rented from local landowners and worked alongside whites and free blacks in performing all the tasks associated with building what the school's founder, Thomas Jefferson, called the Academical Village. In March 1825, the first students arrived and African Americans transitioned to working in the pavilions, hotels, and the Rotunda; maintaining classrooms, laboratories, and the library; ringing the bell; and serving the daily needs of students and faculty. While faculty were allowed to bring personal slaves on Grounds, as the university campus was called, students were not—a reflection, perhaps, of Jefferson's view that slavery raised the young in habits of tyranny. Students nevertheless tended to treat the university's slaves poorly, at times even attacking them. The university's response to such behavior was inconsistent. Although the men who founded the university were ambivalent about slavery, over time students and faculty alike tended to take a harder line in favor of the institution. When the slaves were freed in 1865, the faculty was not, as a group, inclined to help them. The university hired many of its former slaves to work their previous jobs but never articulated a formal policy regarding the newly freed men and women.

Continued...
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Thomas Jefferson looms large in Charlottesville. Very close by is his palatial plantation 'Monticello', a popular historical destination site, built and maintained by the Jefferson family's families of slaves.

More about Jefferson from a 2014 article in a Philly Magazine:

1. He was a lifetime slaveholder
Thomas was the son of Peter Jefferson, a Virginia landowning slaveholder who died in 1757, leaving the 11 year old with a massive estate. Ten years later, he formally inherited 52 black human beings and 5,000 acres of land as well as livestock and other valuables. When he authored the Declaration of Independence in 1776, he held 175 black men, women, and children in bondage. By 1822, he had increased that number to 267.

2. He was a hypocrite
While writing “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness…,” he enslaved nearly 200 human beings. In his original draft of the Declaration on June 28, 1776, he described slavery as a “cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended … (anyone and who were) captivat(ed) and carr(ied) … into slavery in another hemisphere, or … incure(d) miserable death in their transportation hither …” He also described it as “this execrable commerce” and “this assemblage of horrors.” And in 1781, he called it “… this great political and moral evil …” But see item one above.

3. He was a rapist

As U.S. Envoy and Minister to France, Jefferson began living there periodically from 1784-1789. He took with him his oldest daughter, Martha, and a few of those whom he enslaved, including James Hemings. In 1787, he requested that his daughter Polly join him. This meant that Polly’s enslaved chambermaid, 14-year-old seamstress Sally Hemings (James’ younger sister), was to accompany her. Sally was described in 1787 as “quite a child” and “good natured,” in 1847 as “handsome (with) long straight hair down her back,” and in 1851 as “decidedly good looking.”

Both Sally and James were among the six mulatto offspring of Jefferson’s father-in-law, John Wayles, and his enslaved “domestic servant” Betty Hemings. Sally and James were half siblings of Thomas Jefferson’s late wife, Martha Wayles Skelton Jefferson. Thomas, after repeatedly sexually forcing himself on Sally while in Paris, impregnated her. Her first child died after she returned to America. But she had six more of Thomas’s children at Monticello.

I know what the Jefferson apologists are saying right now. They’re saying that there’s no proof that he fathered any of Sally’s children. I say there is. Actually, the prestigious Thomas Jefferson Foundation Research Committee says that he’s the father of at least six. And her son — I mean their son — Madison says Thomas is the father of all seven. Thomas’ white daughter, Martha Jefferson Randolph, and two of her children, namely Ellen Randolph Coolidge and Thomas Jefferson Randolph, deny all of this. They contend that it was impossible on “moral and practical grounds.” Yeah. They really said that. But, colloquially speaking, science don’t lie. The 1998 DNA testing and its scholarly review in 2010 concluded that Thomas Jefferson is “most likely” the father of the six listed in the Monticello records. They include Harriet who was born in 1795 but died in infancy, Beverly born 1798, an unnamed daughter born in 1799 but who died in infancy, (another) Harriet born in 1801, Madison born in 1805, and Eston born in 1808.

4. He was an incestuous pedophile

See item three above.

more........

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2014/04/1 ... Ao7FF1K.99


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So why not also demand the removal of statues of Founding Fathers and other prominent racists who owned slaves?
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Re: The Rise of Bigot America Thread

Postby norton ash » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:31 am

Because the Confederates were treasonous supporters of a slave state when the country was trying to right a massive wrong an entire 100 years after the slave-owning founders. Jesus, this one's simple.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:24 am

should be simple

why am I hearing trump's excuses here?


one was a treasonist bastard who's decisions killed a whole lots of Americans...caused Americans to fight Americans .....the other one was the founding father of this country
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Postby liminalOyster » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:03 am

The moment I hear Jimmy Fallon wax indignant about how gun rights are a product of slave patrols and acknowledge the transmutation of slavery into the prison system, I will (attempt to) pull down at least one confederate statue all by myself.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:32 am


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O95o4LruwbM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXDezoVeOFU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_2PqgDk9I


AP is no longer going to use the phrase Alt-Right

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The construction of Trump Tower may have been Donald Trump’s greatest achievement, but it was a disaster for the city’s artistic legacy.

To build his skyscraper, Trump first had to knock down the Bonwit Teller building, a luxurious limestone building erected in 1929. The face of the building featured two huge Art Deco friezes that the Metropolitan Museum of Art wanted to preserve. The museum asked Trump to save the sculptures and donate them, and the mogul agreed—as long as the cost of doing so wasn’t too high.

But then, according to journalist Harry Hurt III in his book Lost Tycoon, Trump discovered that taking out the sculptures would delay demolition by two weeks. He wasn’t willing to wait. “On his orders, the demolition workers cut up the grillwork with acetylene torches,” Hurt wrote. “Then they jackhammered the friezes, dislodged them with crowbars, and pushed the remains inside the building, where they fell to the floor and shattered in a million pieces.”

The art world was shocked. “Architectural sculpture of this quality is rare and would have made definite sense in our collections,” Ashton Hawkins, the vice president and secretary of the Met’s board of trustees, told the New York Times. Robert Miller, a gallery owner who had agreed to assess the friezes, told the paper that “the reliefs are as important as the sculptures on the Rockefeller building. They’ll never be made again.”

The Times reported that Trump also lost a large bronze grillwork, measuring 25 feet in length, from the building that the museum had hoped to save.

Trump—posing as spokesman John Baron, one of the fake alter egos he used to speak to the press throughout his career—told the Times that he had the friezes appraised and found they were “without artistic merit” and weren’t worth the $32,000 he supposedly would have had to pay to remove them intact. “Can you imagine the museum accepting them if they were not of artistic merit?” Hawkins said in response.

“It’s odd that a person like Trump, who is spending $80 million or $100 million on this building, should squirm that it might cost as much as $32,000 to take down those panels,” Otto Teegen, who designed the bronze grillwork, told the Times. Yet he wasn’t willing to protect the art in this construction deal.

Read the rest of “The Trump Files”:

Trump Files #1: The Time Andrew Dice Clay Thanked Donald for the Hookers
Trump Files #2: When Donald Tried to Stop Charlie Sheen’s Marriage to Brooke Mueller
Trump Files #3: The Brief Life of the “Trump Chateau for the Indigent”
Trump Files #4: Donald Thinks Asbestos Fears Are a Mob Conspiracy
Trump Files #5: Donald’s Nuclear Negotiating Fantasy
Trump Files #6: Donald Wants a Powerball for Spies
Trump Files #7: Donald Gets An Allowance
Trump Files #8: The Time He Went Bananas on a Water Cooler
Trump Files #9: The Great Geico Boycott
Trump Files #10: Donald Trump, Tax-Hike Crusader
Trump Files #11: Watch Donald Trump Say He Would Have Done Better as a Black Man
Trump Files #12: Donald Can’t Multiply 16 and 7
Trump Files #13: Watch Donald Sing the “Green Acres” Theme Song in Overalls
Trump Files #14: The Time Donald Trump Pulled Over His Limo to Stop a Beating
Trump Files #15: When Donald Wanted to Help the Clintons Buy Their House
Trump Files #16: He Once Forced a Small Business to Pay Him Royalties for Using the Word “Trump”
Trump Files #17: He Dumped Wine on an “Unattractive Reporter”
Trump Files #18: Behold the Hideous Statue He Wanted to Erect In Manhattan
Trump Files #19: When Donald Was “Principal for a Day” and Confronted by a Fifth-Grader
Trump Files #20: In 2012, Trump Begged GOP Presidential Candidates to Be Civil
Trump Files #21: When Donald Couldn’t Tell the Difference Between Gorbachev and an Impersonator
Trump Files #22: His Football Team Treated Its Cheerleaders “Like Hookers”
Trump Files #23: Donald Tried to Shut Down a Bike Race Named “Rump”
Trump Files #24: When Donald Called Out Pat Buchanan for Bigotry
Trump Files #25: Donald’s Most Ridiculous Appearance on Howard Stern’s Show
Trump Files #26: How Donald Tricked New York Into Giving Him His First Huge Deal
Trump Files #27: Donald Told Congress the Reagan Tax Cuts Were Terrible
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They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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