Who Was Seth Rich?

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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby liminalOyster » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:25 pm

Cordelia » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:33 am wrote:The reenactment is a mockery...naïve/love-lorn/idealistic Washington up-and-comer tries to pass/sell secretive documents to Russian lawyer after which sinister Russian assassin & stereotypical American trucker team up to silence him. Viewer contempt advisory.

Next week marks two years cold since a major case committed by a D.C. branch of Murder, Inc is reduced to a minor grade b movie clip by an ‘influential’ DC joke lobbyist while those w/real influence carry on Washington's business as usual.


Your summary doesn't do justice to how particularly bad this is. I don't care for collective tongue in cheek entertainment but this could be seamlessly edited into Tommy Wiseau's The Room.
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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby Elvis » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:21 pm

liminalOyster » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:25 am wrote:
Cordelia » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:33 am wrote:The reenactment is a mockery...naïve/love-lorn/idealistic Washington up-and-comer tries to pass/sell secretive documents to Russian lawyer after which sinister Russian assassin & stereotypical American trucker team up to silence him. Viewer contempt advisory.

Next week marks two years cold since a major case committed by a D.C. branch of Murder, Inc is reduced to a minor grade b movie clip by an ‘influential’ DC joke lobbyist while those w/real influence carry on Washington's business as usual.


Your summary doesn't do justice to how particularly bad this is. I don't care for collective tongue in cheek entertainment but this could be seamlessly edited into Tommy Wiseau's The Room.


I can't bear to watch it. Thanks for the reviews.
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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby elfismiles » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:33 pm

How Russian Hackers Amplified the Seth Rich Conspiracy Until it Reached Donald Trump and the CIA
By Patrick Tucker Technology Editor Read bio

August 2, 2018

A new report claims that Russian hackers altered dates in stolen documents to frame the DNC staffer for the theft.

#HisNameWasSethRich and, no, he did not leak stolen DNC info to Wikileaks. A new report shows how Russian military intelligence fueled a conspiracy around the unsolved 2016 murder of the Democratic National Committee staffer, fooling right-wing talk show hosts, journalists, former NSA and CIA officials — to the point that Donald Trump ordered the head of CIA to investigate it.

The report, by investigative British journalist Duncan Campbell, was published on Monday by Computer Weekly, a professional IT online magazine. Campbell asserts that Russian military intelligence, the GRU, manipulated metadata in DNC files that it stole and then released to the public. The GRU’s goal in doing so: to give the false impression that the files were not hacked but copied from one computer to another by a DNC insider — Seth Rich — and then given to Wikileaks. The con job was good enough to persuade William Binney, a former technical director at the NSA, to conclude last year that the DNC files weren’t hacked at all, just stolen from the inside. Binney’s name and credibility helped to propel the conspiracy onto Sean Hannity’s show and then to the President and the head of the CIA.

To understand how the Seth Rich conspiracy made its way from the backwaters of 4Chan to Langley, you have to go back to June 2016. Cybersecurity company Crowdstrike had just reported that the DNC had been hacked and the culprit was likely Russian intelligence.

In order to throw dust over their trail, the Russians created a fake persona, a supposed lone Romanian going by “Guccifer 2.0.” It wasn’t long before a cybersecurity event organizer in London contacted Guccifer 2.0 through Twitter and invited him to a major conference in September.

The U.S. intelligence and cybersecurity communities have concluded that Guccifer 2.0 was actually the GRU. Obviously, the Russian military officers skipped that fun London conference in 2016. Instead, they sent a PowerPoint deck. One slide, which Duncan reveals in a photo from the conference, pointed participants toward what Guccifer 2.0 claimed was new and useful information from the DNC.

Duncan surmises that the Russian officers knew that the Guccifer 2.0 persona was quickly losing its credibility. They needed to keep attention on the stolen documents and broader influence campaign rather than who or what was behind it. They needed to create a new, plausible explanation for the documents falling into the hands of Wikileaks.

They soon identified a person they could plausibly frame: a former Democratic National Committee staffer named Seth Rich, who had been murdered in Washington, D.C., on July 10, 2016. A victim in the wrong place at the wrong time, Rich wouldn’t be able to defend himself. Conspiracies about his death were already growing like mushrooms in the darker corners of Internet chat rooms, easily observable to foreign intelligence. But the GRU needed some way to point to Seth Rich as the data thief.

So they manipulated the metadata — that is, they changed the dates — in some of their stolen files to indicate that they were copied by an insider, not hacked by a foreign nation, and then sent to Wikileaks. The date they encoded into the files was June 5, less than a week before Rich’s murder. That fact is viewable to anyone who downloads the zip file and uses the password to do it.

Duncan explains: “Some 13 groups had then been compressed using WinRAR 4.2. Nine additional files were compressed using 7zip. The archive, called 7dc58-ngp-van.7z, was published in this format, as a single file of 680MB…The files released in London, we found, had first been processed in this way to show timestamps for 5 July 2016.

“This dual compression method was unique to the London documents. It was not used in other file dumps released by Guccifer 2.0, WikiLeaks or other publishers of stolen DNC material. The special method used two different file compression systems, 7zip and WinRAR, and required using a four-year-old, superseded version of WinRAR to obtain the required result. The way the Russians did it, the two compression operations appeared to overlap within a single 20-minute period. The tampering may have been done on 1 September, a week before the London conference.”

But no one noticed the timestamps in the documents that Guccifer 2.0 gave to the conference. The conspiracy crowd, it seemed, would require some additional breadcrumbs if they were going to behave in the way the Kremlin needed them to.

Jump to June 2017, when a British IT manager and conspiracy theorist named Tim Leonard was running a site called G2.space and operating under the Twitter alias “Adam Carter.” Leonard received “a tip” from a mysterious anonymous source allowing him to unlock hidden metadata in the docs from the London conference. He discovered the timestamps within the documents showing that they were copied from one computer to another on July 5 from the northeastern United States. It was all —conveniently — consistent with the Seth Rich “inside job” theory.

From there, a group called Forensicator — Duncan does not elaborate on Leonard’s association with this group — produces an “analysis” purporting to prove that Wikileaks documents were copied in the United States rather than exfiltrated from abroad. The “evidence” was compelling enough to catch the attention of Binney and a few of his former intelligence colleagues, including in the CIA. Binney wagered his credibility on the faulty analysis without fully checking the files. Binney backtracked on much of what he said publicly and admits his previous statements were factually inaccurate in Duncan’s article. But in 2017, the endorsement from a top former NSA official was enough to get the attention of right-wing talk show host Sean Hannity, and, from there, the President.

Last November, CNN reported that Pompeo, at Trump’s urging, had recently met with Binney to discuss the theory.

Duncan elaborated further in a Wednesday interview with Defense One. He said the GRU ultimately revealed their own ruse in their efforts to encode the timestamps and make sure they were seen. “You would find great difficulty in preserving those timestamps when you sent them through the Internet. Normal compression methods would not preserve those July five dates. In order to make the dates work, they had to use two different operating systems,” he said. “They needed to go to an out-of-date version of WinRAR to get what they wanted. That is written into the file…The method of putting them in two containers was chosen so that the 5 July date would come through.”

Cyber security researchers who spoke with Defense One, and who asked not to be named, verified that the theory was probable. One pointed out that duel compression serves no purpose in terms of efficiency. It isn’t quite a smoking gun, but it is a highly coincidental series of correlative facts from which any reasonable person could interpret the high likelihood of a causative relationship. There is smoke in the room. There is a gun. There is a person prone to shooting guns with gunpowder on his sleeve.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s July indictments of 12 Russian intelligence operatives who carried out the operation also discuss the timestamp phenomenon, also in an effort, it seems, to lay to rest the faulty “inside job” theory. The indictments specifically states the date that the DNC files were compressed was “on or about April 22” and even points out that the files were later moved via a GRU malware program called X-Tunnel to a server that the Russians were renting in Illinois.

Bottom line: the Mueller indictments disprove the theory that Seth Rich leaked DNC data to Wikileaks in July 2016. It’s a theory that was spurred to new heights of perceived credibility because of metadata that was in files that the GRU stole. An anonymous tipster then sent a group of conspiracy theorists a map to find the precisely the information that the GRU wanted them to find. From there, it went to Sean Hannity and eventually to the president and then to the CIA.


https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2 ... ia/150263/


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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:39 pm

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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby Cordelia » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:13 pm

While Washington led the nation in mourning the death of a 94 year old ex-president, the wheels of justice continued to turn (but not for Seth Rich).


Ex-Marine admits he lured Seth Rich conspiracy theorist Jack Burkman to a hotel parking garage, then shot him

By Rachel Weiner

December 3

A man who worked as an investigator for conspiracy theorist Jack Burkman will serve nine years in prison for shooting and wounding his ex-boss in a complicated plot involving a fake FBI exposé.

Kevin Doherty, 46, said little as Judge William T. Newman Jr. sentenced him Monday for malicious wounding and use of a firearm in commission of a felony, but he acknowledged the veracity of a set of facts read by Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Evie Eastman detailing his “serious falling out” with Burkman and the “grand ruse” he concocted in revenge.

Eastman said Doherty lured Burkman to a hotel parking garage in March with the false promise of turning over details of FBI misconduct.

“It was all pretend,” Eastman said.

During the hearing in Arlington Circuit Court, Newman imposed a 23-year prison term with 14 years suspended. In addition, Doherty, who pleaded guilty to both charges, must pay back with interest the $15,000 Burkman gave him for the nonexistent FBI documents.

MORE...https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/pu ... 095e60c3c0


From WAPO article:

In court, Eastman described the plot Doherty executed months later and how police tracked him down. Doherty sent Burkman emails pretending to have information “detrimental to the FBI.” Burkman paid Doherty $15,000 and arranged to pick up the documentation from under a traffic cone at the Key Bridge Marriott in Arlington on March 13.

When Burkman leaned over to get the documents, Eastman said, Doherty shot him twice in the buttocks with a rifle
. Burkman fled up a parking ramp, carrying the traffic cone and his dog, Jack Jr. Doherty admitted he then ran down his former employer from behind the wheel of a black SUV.


I get grabbing the dog, but the traffic cone? Burkman should film another one of his crime reenactments. I don't wish violence on anyone but I'm not sure there’s been a more vivid vehicle-escape scene to imagine since the 1974 Wilbur Mills Washington 'sex scandal', when Fanne--no pun intended--Fox jumped into the Tidal Basin.
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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:50 pm

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Just read that Defense One article posted by elfismiles:

elfismiles wrote:
How Russian Hackers Amplified the Seth Rich Conspiracy Until it Reached Donald Trump and the CIA
By Patrick Tucker Technology Editor Read bio

August 2, 2018

A new report claims that Russian hackers altered dates in stolen documents to frame the DNC staffer for the theft.

[...]

https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2 ... ia/150263/


Another example of the flexibility of conspiracy accusations.

The idea that Crowdstrike manipulated metadata to insert cyrillic and implicate Russia, which would describe a kind of false-flag operation, is conspiracy theory. brrrrrr! Back away or you will have the stink on you.

The idea that metadata was manipulated by Russians through the dual encryption method described in the Defense One article, so as to "frame" Seth Rich, which would similarly be a false-flag operation, is a straightforward investigative conclusion. (In fact, disbelieving this presumably makes you a conspiracy theorist.)

In a fashion I find typical, the Defense One version is presented in muscular, certain prose, leaving no doubt that the case is closed, right up until this sudden attack of weasel-word ass-coverage at the end:

Cyber security researchers who spoke with Defense One, and who asked not to be named,


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verified that the theory was probable. One pointed out that duel compression serves no purpose in terms of efficiency.


Duel compression, is that like when zip and rar have a gunfight?

Also, here, verified is a very fancy way to say, "said." As nothing is verified if it is merely "probable."

And whether it is "efficient" is not the question. None of this says whether the June 6 date is fake or not.

What follows, especially the first sentence worthy of a dozen tort lawyers, followed by classic argument from metaphor, is a real beauty of #Russiagate logic.

It isn’t quite a smoking gun, but it is a highly coincidental series of correlative facts from which any reasonable person could interpret the high likelihood of a causative relationship. There is smoke in the room. There is a gun. There is a person prone to shooting guns with gunpowder on his sleeve.


Very bipolar performance. To summarize: IS! IS! IS! IS! IS! IS! IS! maybe, except maybe, could be interpretable by any reasonable person.

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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:17 pm

seemslikeadream » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:03 pm wrote:



TWO FACES


Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi Pushed Seth Rich Lie After Privately Admitting Hackers Stole DNC Emails



Newly released email shows the Russia truthers knew full well who supplied Wikileaks. They kept blaming a murdered staffer, even after his parents begged them to stop.
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Russian hackers weren’t the ones behind the theft of Democratic emails that upended the 2016 presidential race, conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi told his InfoWars fans last year. Instead, Corsi said, Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich had stolen the emails and was murdered in revenge for the heist.

But Corsi was lying. In an email to Trump confidante Roger Stone in 2016, Corsi acknowledged that hackers were behind the email theft, according to newly released messages.


Despite that admission, both Corsi and Stone played key roles promoting the conspiracy theory about Rich. Stone became one of the first major figures in Trump’s orbit to suggest Rich was murdered over the emails, tweeting on August 10, 2016 that Rich had “ties to DNC heist.”

In 2017, after Rich’s parents begged right-wing media personalities to stop pushing conspiracy theories about their son, Corsi put the blame for the email theft on Rich in a three-part InfoWars series.

In his InfoWars posts and a series of YouTube videos, Corsi portrayed Rich as a disaffected supporter of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) who stole the emails to get revenge against the DNC and paid for it with his life. Corsi wrote Rich had clearly been “implicated in breaches of email systems.” The young staffer was, according to Corsi, the “likely perpetrator.”

Corsi’s theory helped fuel conspiracists on the right who claim, without evidence, that Rich was murdered on the orders of Hillary Clinton. But emails from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia show that Corsi knew all along that it really was hackers who gave the emails to WikiLeaks.


In an August 2, 2016 email, made public Tuesday in draft court papers prepared by Mueller’s office, Corsi told Stone that “hackers” were behind the WikiLeaks releases.

“Time to let more than [Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta] to be exposed as in bed with enemy if they are not ready to drop HRC,” Corsi wrote. “That appears to be the game hackers are now about.”

By August 2016, cybersecurity experts had identified the hackers as Russians and it was widely reported the U.S. government reached the same conclusion.

Corsi’s biggest push for the Seth Rich conspiracy theory came in his 2017 series for Alex Jones’ InfoWars, where Corsi worked as a Washington bureau chief.


Days earlier, Rich’s parents had pleaded with Corsi and his allies to stop claiming that their son’s unsolved July 2016 murder, which police believe was a botched robbery, was actually an assassination. The conspiracy theories, they wrote in The Washington Post, had turned his death into a “political football.”

Corsi pressed on anyway, despite knowing that hackers had been behind the email theft. The first item in his InfoWars series promised that “new evidence suggests Seth Rich was DNC leaker.”

Corsi and Stone didn’t respond to requests for comment. Rich’s family, who are currently engaged in several lawsuits over the conspiracy theories about Rich’s death, declined to comment.
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Interesting question in this: whether Corsi's reference to hackers will help the Rich family's lawsuits against the hoaxsters.
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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:22 pm

Well, except that Corsi and Stone don't know jack-shit about any of it, having had nothing to do with the leak or hack, Assange, or anything remotely related to this story, any more than anyone posting on this thread had anything to do with these. They are Team Trumpsters who blabbed their way into importance by pretending to be in the loop, and are now caught in the net. Couldn't have happened to nicer Ratfuckers, but it's no confirmation of anything relating to the #Russiagate fantasy.
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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:26 pm

Sure and your proof of anything is?

Well, except that Corsi and Stone don't know jack-shit about any of it, having had nothing to do with the leak or hack, Assange, or anything remotely related to this story,



We have a whole thread on who murdered Seth Rich ....speculation


You are speculating on what you think Corsi and Stone did or did not know


Stone is taking the fifth ......why would he need to do that?


This thread is about Seth Rich and I posted something relating to him so it is in fact relevant and your speculating about that is well.....par
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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:36 pm

Actually, a burden of proof would be... oh never mind, let's just watch this unfold.
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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby Grizzly » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:09 pm

WAIT! didn't Seth Rich shoot Lennon? or was that Lincoln?
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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:20 pm

Grizzly » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:09 pm wrote:WAIT! didn't Seth Rich shoot Lennon? or was that Lincoln?


Anything we say about such ideas is just speculation either way, until such time as The Mueller speaks.
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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby Marionumber1 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:58 pm

Someone on Voat posted a response to a public records request on Seth Rich, and if this is authentic, it shows that the US Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia has records of an ongoing grand jury investigating the case.

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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby Cordelia » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:07 pm

^^^Thanks for posting this........

If correct "...ongoing grand jury proceedings" must mean that police have a suspect that the DC prosecutor's office hopes to indict - right? :shrug:
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Re: Who Was Seth Rich?

Postby elfismiles » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:33 pm

ZOINKS! :shock:

Marionumber1 » 19 Dec 2018 02:58 wrote:Someone on Voat posted a response to a public records request on Seth Rich, and if this is authentic, it shows that the US Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia has records of an ongoing grand jury investigating the case.

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Cordelia » 19 Dec 2018 17:07 wrote:^^^Thanks for posting this........

If correct "...ongoing grand jury proceedings" must mean that police have a suspect that the DC prosecutor's office hopes to indict - right? :shrug:
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