Moderators: Elvis, DrVolin, Jeff
Elvis » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:55 pm wrote:I suppose in these vehicular attacks, the possibility of remote control is always there.
On 22 December 2014 a bin lorry collided with pedestrians in the city centre of Glasgow, Scotland, killing six and injuring fifteen others. The driver of the council-owned vehicle, Harry Clarke, said he had passed out at the wheel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Glas ... orry_crash
MacCruiskeen » Yesterday, 20:21 wrote:Elvis » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:55 pm wrote:I suppose in these vehicular attacks, the possibility of remote control is always there.
Yes. They've been able to do that for years now. And I haven't seen that possibility raised anywhere else yet. (Who was that US journalist whose car crashed into a tree at high speed?)
MacCruiskeen » Yesterday, 20:21 wrote:... because in many ways. the Berlin incident looked much more like a terrible accident of that kind than a deliberate attempt to murder as many people as possible.
If someone had really wanted to commit a massacre with a lorry in Berlin, he could have done it much more effectively in many other parts of town that are much more crowded and much easier to access. [snip] Instead, that lorry took a sharp right turn into the market and almost immediately (after 60 yards, max) swerved straight back out to the left again. Why?
Spiro C. Thiery wrote:For example, Elvis reminds me that it could have been the driver fighting with a rig that had been hijacked by remote control. But then somebody had to shoot him.
20.01.2017 Author: Tony Cartalucci
Gladio Again: Germany Could’ve But Didn’t Stop Berlin Attacker. Why?full article»Germany’s weak excuses for not apprehending a man who openly admitted he sought to acquire weapons and take human lives echo similarly convenient excuses provided by the French government following a string of fatal attacks across its territory.
Paris has claimed a lack of resources to process the large number of potential terrorists returning from battlefields France itself has helped send arms, fighters, and other forms of material support to on behalf of terrorist organizations and their allies.
Germany’s excuses might seem plausible if not for the fact that virtually every terror attack that has unfolded not only in Germany, but across all of Europe follows a similar pattern where suspects are surveilled, questioned, entrapped, even arrested and released multiple times, before ultimately carrying out spectacular, politically convenient attacks across Europe.Another “Gladio”
Such purposeful negligence matches another chapter in Europe’s more recent history – that during the Cold War in which NATO security and intelligence agencies maintained a myriad of pan-European terrorist organizations of every imaginable variety, used to assassinate political opponents, carry out deadly and spectacular terror attacks, and otherwise use violence, fear, and intimidation to manipulate both public perception and political outcomes during elections in respective states.
Der Kriminalist Jürgen Cain Külbel und der Terrorismus-Experte Rainer Rupp im Gespräch mit dem RT Deutsch-Redakteur Kani Tuyala.
Zweifel nach Berliner Attentat:
Teil I: Es war einmal ein Ausweis
19.01.2017 • 15:56 Uhr
Experten äußern gegenüber RT Deutsch vehemente Zweifel an der offiziellen Darstellung zum Anschlag am Berliner Breitscheidplatz. Im Interview gehen der Kriminalist Jürgen Cain Külbel und der Terrorismus-Experte Rainer Rupp den zahlreichen Ungereimtheiten nach. Der erste Teil befasst sich mit den ersten Ermittlungen nach dem Anschlag, dem Auffinden der Ausweisdokumente Amris, hellsehende Journalisten und die sehr begrenzte Deutungshoheit über die Geschehnisse.
_____________________
Zweifel nach Berliner Attentat:
Teil II: Von Gefahren und Gefährdern
21.01.2017 • 08:00 Uhr
Im zweiten Teil des RT Deutsch-Interviews gehen der Kriminalist Jürgen Cain Külbel und der Terrorismus- und Geheimdienst-Experte Rainer Rupp weiteren Unstimmigkeiten rund um das Attentat am Berliner Breitscheidplatz nach. Thema sind dabei unter anderem schützende Hände, dubiose V-Männer, der NSU und politischer Maßnahmen-Aktionismus.
https://deutsch.rt.com/inland/45531-ani ... rlin-rupp/
KUAN » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:49 pm wrote:There's an elephant in the room, and her name is Hilda
MacCruiskeen » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:32 am wrote: Italian and German media reveal that Amri could easily have been deported at various times over the last few years, and wasn't. Nobody in either country has a good explanation as to why he wasn't deported, or at least held in preventive detention..
stefano » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:52 am wrote:MacCruiskeen » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:32 am wrote: Italian and German media reveal that Amri could easily have been deported at various times over the last few years, and wasn't. Nobody in either country has a good explanation as to why he wasn't deported, or at least held in preventive detention..
Maybe because the Tunisians were dragging their feet on taking him (and many other young men they don't particularly want in their country) back?
Selbst als Interpol Tunis am 24. Oktober 2016 Amri zweifelsfrei als tunesischen Staatsbürger identifizieren konnte, was die Abschiebung erheblich erleichtern sollte, hätte dies nichts am damals noch fehlenden Nachweis der Gefährlichkeit des späteren Attentäters für eine Abschiebungsanordnung geändert, argumentiert das NRW-Innenministerium. Der Präsident des Deutschen Richterbundes, Jens Gnisa, hatte hingegen in den vergangenen Tagen ausgeführt, eine bis zu 18 Monate dauernde Sicherungshaft nach Paragraf 62 des Aufenthaltsgesetzes sei sehr wohl möglich gewesen, weil Amri mit falscher Staatsbürgerschaft nach Deutschland eingereist war, hier 14 verschiedene Identitäten angenommen und verschiedene Straftaten begangen hatte.
http://www.waz.de/politik/fall-amri-jae ... 13987.html
Saw this today: a Tunisian "in contact with" Amri has been extradited to Berlin. The Tunisian prosecutor says he's not implicated in the Berlin attack, but maybe the German prosecutor's going to try to get him convicted for it anyway. Notable that the Jeune Afrique (which is owned by a Tunisian family) calls Amri the "suspected" and "presumed" perpetrator of the lorry attack throughout... except in the headline.
Allemagne : extradition d’un Tunisien en relation avec Anis Amri, l’auteur de l’attentat de Berlin
"Um kurz nach 20 Uhr hält er an einer roten Ampel. Als die Ampel auf Grün springt, fährt Amri [sic] an. Es ist 20.02 Uhr. Mit rund 15 km/h schiebt sich der Lkw auf den Weihnachtsmarkt. 15 km/h sind nicht besonders schnell, doch an diesem Abend auf dem überfüllten Markt genug, um Menschen zu überrollen und Buden niederzureißen. Die Opfer haben keine Chance. "
http://www.zeit.de/2017/15/anis-amri-an ... ettansicht
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 24 guests