Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:16 am

8bitagent » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:51 pm wrote:
SonicG » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:29 pm wrote:Nah mang, at least we won't have war with Russia...And the Neo-Cons are out of power!!


future Simpsons episode...
Homer: "Yeah but still, the emails and benghazi thing..."

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Kellyanne Conway and Other Top White House Staff Caught Using Private RNC Email System: Report
And don't forget those tweets from Trump sometimes come from his unsecured phone.
By Brad Reed / Raw Story January 25, 2017
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This past summer, Republicans were fond of saying Hillary Clinton ought to be “locked up” because she endangered national security using a home-brew email server during her tenure as Secretary of State.

Now Newsweek reports that several members of the Trump administration are going to be using private Republican National Committee email accounts while serving in the White House.

This is an issue, the publication notes, because U.S. intelligence agencies claim that “the RNC email system… was hacked during the 2016 race.”

Included among the administration officials who have RNC email accounts are Kellyanne Conway, Jared Kushner, Sean Spicer and Steve Bannon.

“They better be careful after making such a huge ruckus over the private email over at the State Department,” former Bush administration ethics attorney Richard Painter tells Newsweek.

While it isn’t illegal for the administration officials to use the RNC’s private email, they are prohibited from using those accounts to conduct government-related business without properly disclosing them.

“If White House staffers have already used the RNC emails system for White House work, they must copy or forward those communications into the government system within 20 days,” Newsweek writes of disclosure requirements that went into effect in 2014. “The Disclosure Requirement was passed to prevent presidents from shielding communications that fall under the Presidential Records Act of 1978.”

The private RNC emails aren’t the only potential security problem for the White House either, as The New York Times reports that President Trump is still using his unsecured Android phone to send out tweets from the White House.
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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby semper occultus » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:38 pm

....mmm.....this has set me wondering how sustainable or "popular" say the Third Reich would have been if WW2 hadn't happened - most counter-factuals seem to be based on the idea of Hitler winning a world war

...assume they'd pursued a more conventional foreign policy, ridden out the Great Depression intact - with their science base .... :shrug: ( actually maybe I've seen a Patrick Buchanan book along those lines somewhere )
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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:01 pm

JackRiddler » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:35 am wrote:.

Very interesting piece in a true Ruppert mode, stillrobertpaulsen! Thank you.

Peak carbon, at least from every way it had been harvested until now, has actually happened. We can agree. That's why the resort to the ocean floor, blowing up mountaintops, fracking to the point of turning OK into an earthquake zone (bizarre!), the shale-oil atrocity, and the Arctic hopes. For the moment, this insane atmosphere-killing recklessness has flooded the market with cheap carbon energy, creating the illusion of plenty -- it will last forever, I tell you! This plunder has also slowed down the still so-gradual move to renewable alternative energies (which I do take seriously). It also juiced an enormous investment wave and thus a carbon bubble. Values here have been deflating for the last couple of years, but there has not yet been a big crash. And it is here that I see the thinking of the new gang in the executive.

You may be describing the long-term analytic thinking within the Deep State accurately. I doubt the Trumpians are seeing it exactly the same way. They are pirates with extremely short-term gratification windows. They want their service and their plunder now, always. My belief, based on the new cabinet, is that right now, their main preoccupation is to save the carbon market from the mid- to short-term threat of a devastating crash that would resume economic crisis (which soon enough will be blamed on them, as these things go). Yet when they guy says, "go back to Iraq and TAKE THE OIL," even he knows that a reoccupation cannot be sustained. In the meantime I've convinced myself I had a revelation with the thought that what they really mean is take the oil off the market.

Unfortunately I agree that a Trumptag is in the works. It can't have too many moving parts, cannot be too staged and big and exotic. Unlike a certain CIA family and their extended network of long-time operators who had been in power already many times, these new guys are outsiders to the national security state. As we have seen they are in an antagonistic position with some of its factions (although if Trump falls all would be harmony on that end). We have also seen that in the post-truth/post-factual/post-reality environment, it is easier than ever to blow up any event to mountainous proportions, assuming you control the government and its amplifying Wurlitzer. Really any bombing attack, including outside the U.S., might suffice for use as the trigger of an "enabling" process. (Do these motherfuckers really need more enabling? They can't have enough of it, I figure.)

The narrative of eradicating radical Islamic terrorism is there. I would expect the "event" to be ISIS related, and the response to be in the form of massive intervention (but still mostly air attacks and our troops in the rear) in Syria and Iraq, causing a renewed meltdown of the latter. Middle Eastern oil supply falls for an indefinite period: Japan and China and the tigers are hit hardest. The oil price goes up: this helps Russia as well rescuing values on the endangered carbon investment market. The new war budget swallows everything in sight, making MIC & Co. happy. The borders close, an attempt is made to boost the patriotic devotion (for the first time I think it's an open question whether that will actually work). The jackboots and 24/7/360-degree surveillance tools go wild, of course. Perhaps even the show of an infrastructure spending wave is justified.

Or as the man himself would say, you won't believe how much you are winning. As to more specific thinking I had today, on what the shape of the thing might be, it's highly speculative and inadvisable to post here.

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Thanks Jack, I really appreciate your thought and input on this.

You really nailed the current energy zeitgeist with that phrase "illusion of plenty." And yes, the vast majority is coming from sources where the EROEI is piddling. So having someone in the Executive Office willing to pull out all stops for deregulation is definitely someone the Deep State can get behind to stave off collapse. But there's a dual motive Trump and his minions have which dovetails with them, in spite of the fact that they are, as you accurate describe them, pirates wanting immediate gratification. For the first time ever, Russia beat Saudi Arabia as China's top oil supplier. So ending Russian sanctions is a two-fer for Team Trump: they make money off of stalled deals like the Tillerson-Rosneft arrangement and woo them away from China, forcing them back to Saudi Arabia and the trickiness of transport through South China Sea.

Actually, it's a three-fer: it delays the crash of the carbon bubble, which puts them in the Deep State's favor. Your revelation about them taking the oil off the market works the same way. You may be logically correct that a reoccupation of Iraq to control (i.e. horde) their oil cannot be sustained, but I wouldn't put it past Trump to use a false-flag attack as a pretext for why such an illogical tactic must be employed. Either we're going back to Iraq to "do it right" or maybe Iran, if Old Guard voices like Bolton and Ledeen truly have the new administration's ear. If the new US/Russia oil alliance does go swimmingly, they'll be working together in Syria to protect shared interests.

So what kind of attack can we envision? I think you've made a good guess that it will be ISIS related and probably not too big compared to 9/11. I think it might be something like Paris, maybe in an enclosed area like a huge shopping mall. One thing I know for sure: Trump's response will dwarf the false-flag attack. Which means if he's responding to something like a dirty bomb attack or worse, all bets are off for civilization. I really hope I'm just being hyperbolic, but I doubt it.
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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:25 pm

dada » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:48 pm wrote:And don't forget, these are fragile egos we're talking about. After the nuclear winter, we'd probably open up the bunkers to find they've all killed themselves. I'd put my money on the mutants above ground.


I would too. If those in the bunkers don't kill themselves, they will be a literal feast for the above ground mutants. The super Elite with underground cities; well, they probably won't kill themselves, they might even have surveillance systems in place so they would at least understand the above ground threat they face when they run out of underground resources. But no matter how hard they train and prepare, they will be no match.

Then again, they may not get that far because of the point you made: where is "the help" coming from to do menial labor? I'm reminded of this great cartoon:

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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:22 pm

kelley » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:17 am wrote:terrific post.

great to see discussion that returns the relationships debt, growth, security, and conflict have to energy. that was mike ruppert's original assertion prior to 9/11, and was what made his work compelling-- how exploration, extraction, and transport impact energy costs. that is indeed the significant factor leading to checkmate in any endgame. this piece does likewise, and have posted it is as such since the original is littered with confusing chart junk. the analysis seems to come out of the intelligence community? but worth a look:


https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2017/ ... modernity/


Alastair Crooke
What is this ‘Crisis’ of Modernity?


Thanks kelley, I appreciate the support.

Regarding the link, I used to read The Automatic Earth back in 2008 when they were with Blogger.com, glad to see they're still doing great work. This is an excellent accompaniment, even though there have been conflicting items coming out of the intelligence community lately. Side note, what is up with these British intelligence names? I thought Christopher Steele was satirical enough (son of Remington?), but Alastair Crooke? Will he hijack Masterpiece Theatre? Anyway, aside from that, I think this analysis is very serious. I want to bold some of the parts that stood out for me and add the relevant charts to spell out the full picture:


Well, the Hill’s Group, who are seasoned US oil industry engineers, led by B.W. Hill, tell us – following their last two years, or so, of research – that for purely thermodynamic reasons net energy delivered to the globalised industrial world (GIW) per barrel, by the oil industry (the IOCs) is rapidly trending to zero. Note that we are talking energy-cost of exploration, extraction and transport for the energy-return at final destination. We are not speaking of dollar costs, and we are speaking in aggregate. So why should this be important at all; and what has this to do with spiraling debt creation by the western Central Banks from around 2001?

The importance? Though we sometimes forget it, for we now are so habituated to it, is that energy is the economy. All of modernity, from industrial output and transportation, to how we live, derives from energy – and oil remains a key element to it. What we (the globalized industrial world) experienced in that golden era until the 70s, was economic growth fueled by an unprecedented 321% increase in net energy/head. The peak of 18GJ/head in around 1973 was actually of the order of some 40GJ/head for those who actually has access to oil at the time, which is to say, the industrialised fraction of the global population. The Hill’s Group research can be summarized visually as below (recall that these are costs expressed in energy, rather than dollars):

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Source: http://cassandralegacy.blogspot.it/2016 ... l-age.html


But as Steve St Angelo in the SRSrocco Reports states, the important thing to understand from these energy return on energy cost ratios or EROI, is that a minimum ratio value for a modern society is 20:1 (i.e. the net energy surplus available for GDP growth should be twenty times its cost of extraction). For citizens of an advanced society to enjoy a prosperous living, the EROI of energy needs to be much higher, closer to the 30:1 ratio. Well, if we look at the chart below, the U.S. oil and gas industry EROI fell below 30:1 some 46 years ago (after 1970):

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Source: https://srsroccoreport.com/the-coming-b ... ts-missed/



“You will notice two important trends in the chart above. When the U.S. EROI ratio was higher than 30:1, prior to 1970, U.S. public debt did not increase all that much. However, this changed after 1970, as the EROI continued to decline, public debt increased in an exponential fashion”. (St Angelo).

In short, the question begged by the Hill’s Group research is whether the reason for the explosion of government debt since 1970 is that central bankers (unconsciously), were trying to compensate for the lack of GDP stimulus deriving from the earlier net energy surplus. In effect, they switched from flagging energy-driven growth, to the new debt-driven growth model.


What Crooke is spelling out is the logical conundrum inherent in our entire economic/monetary system. Our system is predicated on infinite growth. Yet the primary resources fueling that system are finite. Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby KUAN » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:38 pm

Jesus fucking wept

(From another thread)

But Buddah said you have to make it on your own

Feels like the endgame tho eh

Thanks Jack, say more?
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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby kool maudit » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:59 am

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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby brainpanhandler » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:13 pm

stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:01 pm wrote:Mostly, I wonder about who the patsies will be this time. ISIS, obviously, but who else will get ensnared in the web? Mexicans? Chinese? Shit, maybe they'll even throw a Russian in there just to fuck with Trump; see how fast on his feet he is.


I think you are on the right track here:

Robert Paulson wrote:Finally, but most important in light of the subject of this post, he was allegedly tied to the Italian P2 Masonic Lodge, a violent right wing group that was involved in a number of terrorists attacks in Italy in the 1970s and the 1980s. P2 was involved with Operation Gladio in those attacks known as the Strategy of Tension, a false-flag campaign where P2 organized terror attacks to blame on left-wing groups.


The National Socialists blamed the communists for the Reichstag fire.
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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby semper occultus » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:58 pm

......not a particularly brilliant tactic to seem to be egging on just such an event really you'd think....

German Newspaper Editor: Assassination Easiest Way To End "Trump Catastrophe"

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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby Grizzly » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:58 pm

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Hurry it's been taken down once already. Anyone down for some Nationalism?
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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:14 pm

brainpanhandler » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:13 pm wrote:
stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:01 pm wrote:Mostly, I wonder about who the patsies will be this time. ISIS, obviously, but who else will get ensnared in the web? Mexicans? Chinese? Shit, maybe they'll even throw a Russian in there just to fuck with Trump; see how fast on his feet he is.


I think you are on the right track here:

Robert Paulson wrote:Finally, but most important in light of the subject of this post, he was allegedly tied to the Italian P2 Masonic Lodge, a violent right wing group that was involved in a number of terrorists attacks in Italy in the 1970s and the 1980s. P2 was involved with Operation Gladio in those attacks known as the Strategy of Tension, a false-flag campaign where P2 organized terror attacks to blame on left-wing groups.


The National Socialists blamed the communists for the Reichstag fire.


They sure did, and they found the perfect dupe to take the blame. This section from The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William L. Shirer pages 192-193 explains how:

The whole truth about the Reichstag fire will probably never be known. Nearly all those who knew it are now dead, most of them slain by Hitler in the months that followed. Even at Nuremberg the mystery could not be entirely unraveled, though there is enough evidence to establish beyond a reasonable doubt that it was the Nazis who planned the arson and carried it out for their own political ends.

From Goering's Reichstag President's Palace an underground passage, built to carry the central heating system, ran to the Reichstag building. Through this tunnel Karl Ernst, a former hotel bellhop who had become the Berlin S.A. leader, led a small detachment of storm troopers on the night of February 27 to the Reichstag, where they scattered gasoline and self-igniting chemicals and then made their way quickly back to the palace the way they had come. At the same time a half-witted Dutch Communist with a passion for arson, Marinus van der Lubbe, has made his way into the huge, darkened and to him unfamiliar building and set some small fires of his own. This feeble-minded pyromaniac was a godsend to the Nazis. He had been picked up by the S.A. a few days before after having been overheard in a bar boasting that he had attempted to set fire to several buildings and that he was going to try the Reichstag next.

The coincidence that the Nazis had found a demented Communist arsonist who was out to do exactly what they themselves had determined to do seems incredible but is nevertheless supported by the evidence. The idea for the fire almost certainly originated with Goebbels and Goering. Hans Gisevius, an official in the Prussian Ministry of the Interior at the time, testified at Nuremberg that "it was Goebbels who first thought of setting the Reichstag on fire," and Rudolf Diels, the Gestapo chief, added in an affidavit that "Goering knew exactly how the fire was to be started" and had ordered him "to prepare, prior to the fire, a list of people who were to be arrested immediately after it." General Franz Halder, Chief of the German General Staff during the early part of World War II, recalled at Nuremberg how on one occasion Goering had boasted of his deed.

At a luncheon on the birthday of the Fuehrer in 1942 the conversation turned to the topic of the Reichstag building and its artistic value. I heard with my own ears when Goering interrupted the conversation and shouted: "The only one who really knows about the Reichstag is I, because I set it on fire!" With that he slapped his thigh with the flat of his hand.*

Van der Lubbe, it seems clear, was a dupe of the Nazis. He was encouraged to try to set the Reichstag on fire. But the main job was to be done - without his knowledge, of course - by the storm troopers. Indeed, it was established at the subsequent trial at Leipzig that the Dutch half-wit did not possess the means to set so vast a building on fire so quickly. Two and a half minutes after he entered, the great central hall was fiercely burning. He had only his shirt for tinder. The main fires, according the testimony of experts at the trial, had been set with considerable quantities of chemicals and gasoline. It was obvious that one man could not have carried them into the building, nor would it have been possible for him to start so many fires in so many scattered places in so short a time.

*Both in his interrogations and at his trial at Nuremberg, Goering denied to the last that he had had any part in setting fire to the Reichstag.
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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:27 pm

semper occultus » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:58 pm wrote:......not a particularly brilliant tactic to seem to be egging on just such an event really you'd think....

German Newspaper Editor: Assassination Easiest Way To End "Trump Catastrophe"

I'll give Madonna a free pass on the grounds of irrelevance


Sorry I missed responding to this when you first posted it, semper occultus. My opinion of this possibility is that if the Deep State really wanted Trump taken care of, it would have happened prior to the nomination. Selecting Pence assured them that if something beyond their control occurred, all would still be safe in their eyes. That doesn't necessarily mean that this or an impeachment/resignation event might be the actual Trumpstag that awaits us. My take on it is that Trump stays where he is as long as he is useful. But I'm getting the feeling he is wearing out his usefulness quite quickly. We'll see.
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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:51 pm

The fuck?

Trump warns military leaders: Today is ‘calm before the storm’ — and tells them ‘you’ll find out’ what he means

Sarah K. Burris

05 Oct 2017 at 19:52 ET

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President Donald Trump with senior military leaders (Photo: Screen capture)

During a typical photo-op with a group of senior military leaders, President Donald Trump had an eerie warning.

“You know what this represents? Maybe it’s the calm before the storm,” Trump said, according to an NBC News video. “You’ll find out.”

Trump then delivered a speech telling the leaders that his top priority is to keep people safe and empower them to do their work.

“Recently, we have had challenges that we really should have taken care of a long time ago, like North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, ISIS, and the revisionist powers that threaten our interests all around the world,” Trump told the group, according to a White House transcript. “Tremendous progress has been made with respect to ISIS, and I guess the media is going to be finding out about that over the next short period of time.”

Reporters repeatedly asked him to clarify “what storm,” but Trump refused to answer.
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Re: Countdown to Trumpstag: Entering the Endgame

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:17 am

Glad you brought that here. I couldn't stop laughing after I saw that footage.

Not sure if that's healthy, but it felt great.

I apologize if this has been brought up already, but, with respect to the OP: what do you think about the possibility that a, uh....Gulf of Trumpkin? Fuck, that's atrocious but it's the best I'll get at this hour.

What I mean is, do you think that merely triggering a large-scale foreign war, instead of a domestic threat, will be sufficient to legitimize Trump and ease the pressure of Meuller & his ilk? Verily, there are true believers and crusaders in DC, but the men and women they work for are anything but.

What gives me pause on this scenario is the exact carbon constraints you and Jack were discussing upthread. I'm not certain that DOD brass will tolerate just dumping another ten billion into air conditioning kids from Idaho in the middle of some desert. Strategic moves have to be made. Perhaps the era of the Infinite Beltway Feeding Trough is over -- all depends on how much the parasites will adapt & avoid the death of their host, I reckon.
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Postby DrEvil » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:26 am

That Trump comment shows just how dangerous the moron is. Misunderstandings about his meaning is not something you want when he's engaged in nuclear brinkmanship with another country.
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