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And it's worth lingering on the point that Saturday's tweets were truly hysterical -- in both senses of that word. They made us laugh but also evoked a tinge of frenzy or madness. In one tweet Trump invoked McCarthyism: "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"
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Rory » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:43 am wrote:More off topic copypasta. Seemslikemccarthy
Rory » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:06 am wrote:Just copy and paste anti Russian hysteria. Making money for the MiC
Rory » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:00 am wrote:Seemslikewarpropaganda
Rory » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:53 am wrote:Off topic, russiabaiting war hyping, hysteria.
Rory » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:43 am wrote:More off topic copypasta. Seemslikemccarthy
Rory » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:36 am wrote:SpamsLikeAmericanDream
American Dream » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:13 pm wrote:Given the overall history of Russian designs on the greater Pacific Coast of North America from 1732-1867 and more specifically their colonial presence at Bodega Bay in California 1812-1841, it may be that they are hoping for some kind of comeback on Turtle Island.
Given the possibilities of social collapse, they may be glad someday they kept this little effort going. Who knows? Trump may even prove to be the last president of the United States.
Personally, if I say "U.S. out of North America", then as a matter of principle I would have to say "Russia out of North America" too. Some of y'all may be more welcoming of a Putinite State, as is your perogative.
American Dream » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:13 pm wrote:Given the overall history of Russian designs on the greater Pacific Coast of North America from 1732-1867 and more specifically their colonial presence at Bodega Bay in California 1812-1841, it may be that they are hoping for some kind of comeback on Turtle Island.
Given the possibilities of social collapse, they may be glad someday they kept this little effort going. Who knows? Trump may even prove to be the last president of the United States.
Personally, if I say "U.S. out of North America", then as a matter of principle I would have to say "Russia out of North America" too. Some of y'all may be more welcoming of a Putinite State, as is your perogative.
American Dream » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:13 pm wrote:Personally, if I say "U.S. out of North America", then as a matter of principle I would have to say "Russia out of North America" too.
PufPuf93 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:10 pm wrote:Not so long ago on page 3 of this wayward thread I typed, "However, recall the Russians were in early Mexican California; think Fort Ross and also the Salmon Mountain area and in the canyons below what is now the Russian Wilderness Area trapping fur and "off" the maps. There is a white Russian refuge community in San Francisco. Maybe?"
but meant it as an obscure joke.
In the last 30 years in particular, the USA has had eyes on the former USSR republics and on the natural resources within Russia far more than Russia has been a credible military or political threat to the continental USA with one exception, nuclear war.
Question: What is the CNP’s relationship with Yes California? Isn’t the leader of this movement in Russia?
Response: We are not in any way affiliated or associated with Yes California. Even if we wanted to work with them, such affiliation would be illegal because they are a PAC and we are a “political body attempting to qualify as a Party” and the law explicitly prohibits us from coordinating with them.
Unfortunately they have engaged in a long series of false and misleading attacks against us, claiming to “own” our party and attempting to solicit donations using our name. These claims are false, as anyone who looks at the California Secretary of State‘s website can see. We ask that supporters of Californian independence cancel any donations to Yes California and refuse to support them until the offending individuals are removed and an apology is issued.
Further, we have no connections whatsoever to Yes California’s Russian sponsors, or any other foreign government. We are 100% based in California and supported solely by donations from Californians.
Question: Do you support Yes California’s ballot initiative?
Response: We have not endorsed the YC ballot initiative for a number of reasons, not least of which is the impossibility of working with YC themselves given their behavior.
Many of our members also have deep concerns about the wording of that initiative, including the fact that the way it’s worded it has to be approved by voters twice (increasing the odds of failure). The initiative also seems to call for a unilateral secession which, in addition to being contrary to our platform, would violate US laws and be immediately struck down by the courts. If it went ahead, a unilateral secession would almost certainly lead to hostile relations with the remaining United States and cause economic and political chaos that would be devastating for California’s economy. We are also concerned that a failed vote would seriously weaken the movement for independence, setting us back by decades.
https://californianational.party/en/faq/
Iamwhomiam wrote:Reminds me of the '60s film, "The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Russians_Are_Coming,_the_Russians_Are_Coming
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