The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

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Re: The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

Postby Grizzly » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:12 pm


Watch former NSA technical director Bill Binney answer questions live from r/wayofthebern

I fucking knew Michael Hayden, Clapper, Brennan, Tenet, Freeh, Keith Alexander, Mike Rogers,
Comey, Robert S. Mueller III, Rosenstein, Stephan Halper, etc... were/are fucking trader's ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/iiuixo/hi_im_bill_binney_nsa_whistleblower_the_russians/

Note: this post was constructed by Daniel Burke (@Burke4Senate), independent candidate for US Senate, and Jose Vega (@josbtrigga), political activist. We are among a small team of people helping Mr. Binney with the AMA. All answers are dictated directly from him and confirmed by him before submission.



EDIT: WE ARE FINISHED! Thank you to all who joined! There will be future streams coming up, so definitely sign up at our link for that ;)

Again many thanks to the wonderful moderators of r/WayOfTheBern . Even though we've all got our differences, what holds us together is the truth.

First of all, many thanks to the moderators of r/WayOfTheBern for giving us the space to present the proof that there was no Russian hack and take any questions people may have about it.

Here's the link to the YouTube Live-stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6hRCCCZ7c

We will start the live-stream at 11:45 or so. We'll give some introductions and then start taking questions approximately at noon.

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Here's some context about who I am and what I've done, taken from my Wikipedia page.

William Edward Binney is a former intelligence official with the United States National Security Agency (NSA) and whistleblower. He retired on October 31, 2001, after more than 30 years with the agency.

He was a critic of his former employers during the George W. Bush administration, and later criticized the NSA's data-collection policies during the Barack Obama administration.

Binney was a Russia specialist and worked in the operations side of intelligence, starting as an analyst and ending as a Technical Director prior to becoming a geopolitical world Technical Director. In the 1990s, he co-founded a unit on automating signals intelligence with NSA research chief Dr. John Taggart. Binney's NSA career culminated as Technical Leader for intelligence in 2001. He has expertise in intelligence analysis, traffic analysis, systems analysis, knowledge management, and mathematics (including set theory, number theory, and probability).

In September 2002, he, along with J. Kirk Wiebe and Edward Loomis, asked the U.S. Defense Department Inspector General (DoD IG) to investigate the NSA for allegedly wasting "millions and millions of dollars" on Trailblazer, a system intended to analyze mass collection of data carried on communications networks such as the Internet. Binney had been one of the inventors of an alternative system, ThinThread, which was shelved when Trailblazer was chosen instead. Trailblazer was a modification of ThinThread, removing the encryption and auditing aspects, while expanding the mass data collection. Binney has also been publicly critical of the NSA for spying on U.S. citizens, saying of its expanded surveillance after the September 11, 2001 attacks that "it's better than anything that the KGB, the Stasi, or the Gestapo and SS ever had" as well as noting Trailblazer's ineffectiveness and unjustified high cost compared to the far less intrusive ThinThread.

In 2017 I met with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo at President Donald Trump's request to talk about my evidence that there was no "Russian Hack". He promised me follow up meetings that never happened, and I would suspect the President was ever briefed.

Links and references with forensic evidence:

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_sem ... sians.html

https://larouchepub.com/other/2020/4731 ... _case.html

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/i ... -evidence/

Do the experiment yourself!: https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_sem ... ry-jo.html

CrowdStrike chief admits no proof that Russia exfiltrated DNC emails: https://medium.com/@jasonaross/crowdstr ... 53fd5fcc1c



Three key points that are essential to know:

1.) The modification times on the files point to the use of a FAT file system, which is used almost exclusively by storage devices (such as flash drives).

2.) Analysis of the files released by Guccifer 2.0 — claimed to be the Russian hacker who got the files to Wikileaks — reveals that they were created at a data transfer rate consistent with a flash drive, but not with an internet transfer.

3.) The NSA would have known the hack was taking place, and would have direct evidence of it. We know this thanks to the leaks revealed by Edward Snowden, which the NSA has never denied. See my 2017 affidavit on this issue: https://storage.googleapis.com/media.la ... idavit.pdf



So, ask me anything!

Bill Binney will dictate his answers to Daniel Burke (@Burke4Senate), Jose Vega (@josbtrigga) and Jason Ross (@JasonA_Ross)

Also, if you haven't already, please check out the documentary "A Good American"


Binney has a lot of hope and confidence in Bar and Durham (sp?) to save us. I have zero in Bar or D ... Further, they are both corrupt.
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Re: The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

Postby Grizzly » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:28 am

WilliamBinney:

Yes Americans have a right to their information that's collected. The agencies claim that it's classified but i would point you to the executive order 13526 section 1.7 thats says you cannot classify evidence thats collected unconstitutionally . The NSA violates that by collecting data on you unwarranted which is a crime. So they cant cover it up with a classification.

Legally thats what should happen. They cannot have your data. It's a violation of the 1st 4th 6th amendments.

So they're scrapping our freedoms.


https://fas.org/sgp/crs/secrecy/R41528.pdf

https://www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.html


[–]WilliamBinney[S] 15 points 1 day ago

The public intelligence statements being made starting in summer of 2016 concerned me. The nature of their reporting lacked substance. I wondered "where's the beef?"

Because of the way the conclusions were presented, I felt that something was missing, so I engaged in analysis of the supposed proof of Russiagate.

With my colleagues in the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, and some assistance from friends in the UK, we pulled together the forensics that challenged the supposed Russian hack of the DNC to provide files to WikiLeaks.

I was asked to testify at the German Bundestag, but not the US Congress! Why not? Plausible deniability. They don't want to have my revelations on the record, because how could they then ignore it. Some of them flew to Germany to listen to me speak there, but won't ask me to come 20 miles down the road to DC to share my findings.



[–]WilliamBinney[S] 9 points 1 day ago

I can confirm every bit of it and I know physically where the data collection storages are in every part of the world. I can tell you the building not the floor. If you use Google Maps you can look for every AT&T Building with huge cooling systems on the roofs. (From Jose: Refer to the stream, he breaks down how he knows this and goes into greater detail. Will amend after the stream is over)

I gave the locations to Laura Pointers and she said she wont publish them but referred them to the NYTimes. They refused to publish them because they said "If one of those buildings get attacked we'll be held responsible"



https://archive.is/GnScf in case lost, here is an archive.

https://archive.fo/03rd9
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Re: The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

Postby liminalOyster » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:16 am

Super surreal to see "Strategy of Tension" trending on Twitter. Not super thread-specific here but could basically go anywhere on RI.
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Re: The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

Postby Grizzly » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:23 am

Here we go again...*


Biden Campaign Firm Hit by Suspected Kremlin Hacking Attack — the failed hacking attempt was caught by Microsoft, which reportedly gathered information identifying hackers linked to the Kremlin as the most likely suspect
https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-campaign-firm-hit-by-suspected-kremlin-hacking-attack

yes, it's the daily bleed, but those back channel brits, keep the black log burning... not to mention, it's reached the frontpage of the internet /s


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https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/iq156d/biden_campaign_firm_hit_by_suspected_kremlin/

Fuck a one trick pony show. They gotta "catapult the propagenda"


*in the angry seething brooding voice of, Maynard James Keenan
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Translation

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:49 am

"Linked to the Kremlin" = possibly originating with a server located in Russia. (Or, at least, we say so.)
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Re: The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:09 am

^^^^^^^
Given the amount of kayfabe involved in this topic (well, one can say the same for most topics in the news on a given week..) even your above qualifier may be generous.

I'd love to see the raw logs/'evidence' that led 'Microsoft' to this conclusion.
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Re: The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:32 am

Belligerent Savant » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:09 am wrote:I'd love to see the raw logs/'evidence' that led 'Microsoft' to this conclusion.


I wouldn't! :rofl2
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Re: The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:44 pm

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Ha. Yes, glutton for punishment -- I should know better by now...
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Re: Translation

Postby liminalOyster » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:11 am

JackRiddler » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:49 am wrote:"Linked to the Kremlin" = possibly originating with a server located in Russia. (Or, at least, we say so.)


More like "possibly originating routed through a server located in Russia."
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Re: The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

Postby Elvis » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:58 am

liminalOyster wrote:
JackRiddler » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:49 am wrote:"Linked to the Kremlin" = possibly originating with a server located in Russia. (Or, at least, we say so.)


More like "possibly originating routed through a server located in Russia."


To which I would add,

As [Maksym Igor] Popov would later tell security researcher Jeffrey Carr, ‘The FSB regularly recruits blackhats for contract work, and one of the standing orders is to leave evidence pointing to an entirely different government as the perpetrator of the attack.’


https://www.wired.com/2016/05/maksym-igor-popov-fbi/

https://emma.best/2019/03/20/the-russia ... anonymous/
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Re: The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

Postby liminalOyster » Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:09 pm

I bet Biden wants to take this Putin character behind the gym and beat the hell out of him right about now....

Washington Post: CIA assessment says Putin 'probably directing' efforts to interfere in 2020 election against Biden
By Veronica Stracqualursi, Marshall Cohen and Zachary Cohen, CNN

Updated 1:27 PM ET, Tue September 22, 2020

Washington (CNN)The CIA assessed in August that Russian President Vladimir Putin and his top aides "are aware of and probably directing Russia's influence operations" aimed at undermining Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden in the 2020 election, according to a new report in The Washington Post.

"We assess that President Vladimir Putin and the senior most Russian officials are aware of and probably directing Russia's influence operations aimed at denigrating the former U.S. Vice President, supporting the U.S. president and fueling public discord ahead of the U.S. election in November," the first line of the assessment reads, the Post reported.
The CIA compiled its August 31 assessment with input from the National Security Agency and the FBI using public, unclassified and classified intelligence sources, the Post reported, citing two sources who reviewed the document.
The CIA and Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment. CNN has also reached out to the National Security Agency and the FBI. The agencies declined to comment to the Post.
Former CIA officer Douglas London told CNN that the agency's use of the word "probably" when concerning an issue of such importance means its "analysts are sufficiently confident based on their deep expertise to put their reputations on the line in making such a call."
"It means the intel is good enough that they're not guessing, but have enough pieces of the puzzle to confidently make out the image," London said.
While US intelligence has publicly accused Russia of actively interfering in the 2020 election, seeking to denigrate Biden's White House bid, the agencies did not provide any assessment of Putin's potential involvement.
"We assess that Russia is using a range of measures to primarily denigrate former Vice President Biden and what it sees as an anti-Russia 'establishment.' This is consistent with Moscow's public criticism of him when he was Vice President for his role in the Obama Administration's policies on Ukraine and its support for the anti-Putin opposition inside Russia," William Evanina, director of the National Counterintelligence and Security Center, said in a statement in August.
The US accused Putin in 2017 of directing all efforts to meddle in the 2016 presidential election.
"We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes," US intelligence said in a statement following the 2016 election.
In his statement from August, Evanina also accused pro-Russian Ukrainian parliamentarian Andrii Derkach of "spreading claims about corruption" to undermine Biden's candidacy.

Election 101
Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told CNN's John King on "Newsroom" on Tuesday that the report serves as "confirmation" of what both Evanina and FBI Director Christopher Wray have said about Russia's efforts to meddle in the election.
"So this is simply affirmation, confirmation of what has already been said both by Director Wray of the FBI and Bill Evanina, who is director of the National CounterIntelligence and Security Center, who is kind of the nominal spokesman for election interference on behalf of the director of national intelligence," said Clapper, who served in the Obama administration.
Clapper, a CNN contributor, added that the report is "significant but not surprising," adding: "Given Putin's background -- a trained career KGB officer -- he has a very astute and sophisticated understanding of the tools that he can use to interfere with our election process and to sow discord and distrust, which he is doing fairly well."
The Post reported that the CIA assessment details Derkach's efforts to spread and boost anti-Biden information through lobbyists, Congress, and US news outlets. Though the document refers to Derkach interacting with a "prominent" person tied to President Donald Trump's campaign, it does not identify the person, according to the Post.
Derkach has close ties to Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who the Post reports is not named in the CIA assessment. Over the past year, Derkach has worked closely with Giuliani and right-wing outlets like One America News Network to peddle anti-Biden material, according to past CNN reporting and Derkach's public statements.
The US Treasury sanctioned Derkach because of those efforts and labeled him an "active Russian agent."
"Derkach and other Russian agents employ manipulation and deceit to attempt to influence elections in the United States and elsewhere around the world," Treasury
Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in a statement earlier this month.

Giuliani has acknowledged that he received documents from Derkach about Biden.

Asked earlier this month about the sanctions against Derkach, Giuliani told CNN via text, "Who cares."

"I never put any of his information in my report to State, and met (Derkach) long after my investigation was over," Giuliani told CNN last month, referring to a controversial packet of documents he gave to the US State Department last year as part of his efforts to dig up dirt on Biden.

Derkach recently dismissed the notion that he is a Russian agent, calling the allegations from the US government "absurd" and illogical during a freewheeling press conference in Ukraine that quickly devolved into a nonsensical spectacle.

The US intelligence community declined to comment on Derkach's specific activities after he spoke out. But an official from the ODNI reiterated the agency's public assessment from August that the Ukrainian lawmaker "is spreading claims about corruption -- including through publicizing leaked phone calls -- to undermine former Vice President Biden's candidacy and the Democratic Party."

"We stand by our previous public statement on Mr. Derkach and note the Sept. 10 Treasury Department designation of Derkach for his efforts to influence the 2020 election," the official told CNN recently.

Derkach has released and promoted alleged audiotapes of a 2016 conversation between Biden and then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko. Last month, Trump retweeted a post containing snippets of the audio and accusing Biden of improprieties, though there is no proof of wrongdoing on the tapes.

A spokesman for Biden's campaign said Tuesday that the CIA assessment makes clear who Putin wants to win the election because "Donald Trump's foreign policy has been a gift to the Kremlin."

"And it is tragic that certain members of Congress are so overcome by the most corrosive form of partisanship imaginable that they have chosen to be accessories to foreign influence operations against the very sovereignty of the United States," Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement.

CNN's Devan Cole, Alex Marquardt, Sarah Mucha, Jeremy Herb, Mike Warren and Kylie Atwood contributed to this report.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/22/politics ... index.html
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Re: The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

Postby Grizzly » Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:59 pm

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Re: The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

Postby Elvis » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:37 pm

I could hardly care less about Hunter Biden's emails—revelations are hardly Earth-shattering—but this is a great piece by Caitlin Johnstone on how MSM applies a different "standard of evidence" to stories depending on whether they help or hurt empire. I had just been going over the alleged Assange-Manafort meeting(s) as an example.

Link and snippets (most of the article); see original for Tweets etc.:

https://caityjohnstone.medium.com/imagi ... ff7e7563b1

Indeed a scroll through today’s mainstream news reporting does appear to show some consensus among most news media that the topic of the emails should be avoided, with most MSM articles on the matter covering the after-effects of the New York Post release or explaining why readers should be dubious about its contents. A new Washington Post article titled “Hunter Biden’s alleged laptop: an explainer” takes great pains to outline how important it is to be very, very certain that this story is everything it purports to be before investing any credulity in it.


This would be the same Washington Post that has been circulating disinformation about Russia for years due to its disinterest in verifying information before reporting, and has alongside the rest of the mass media been promoting the narrative that Russia interfered in the 2016 US election based solely on unproven assertions promoted by government agencies despite many gaping plot holes in that narrative. Where was the journalistic concern for seeing the data and inspecting the hard drives then?


The problem is that all this emphasis on verification and truth only comes up when it is politically convenient for these plutocratic media outlets, because only favoring truth when it’s convenient is the same as lying constantly.

Where were these high evidentiary standards when The Guardian reported without evidence and against all common sense that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange had been having secret meetings with Trump lackey Paul Manafort? That evidence never came out, because the story was ridiculous bullshit from the beginning, yet mass media outlets everywhere parroted it to their audiences like it was a fact. You can still post that bogus Guardian story on Twitter and Facebook to this very day without so much as a warning.

Where were these high evidentiary standards when Politico published the idiotic, nonsensical story that Iran was plotting to assassinate the American ambassador to South Africa? The report sparked many news reports and Twitter threats from the president, but when it was dismissed by the South African government itself there was barely a whisper about it. You are still free to share this bogus Politico article anywhere online you like.

Where were these high evidentiary standards when leaks by anonymous spooks dominated headlines for days with their evidence-free allegation that the Russian government had been paying Taliban-linked fighters bounties on western occupying forces? We now know that story was completely baseless and would have been dismissed by news reporters who were actually doing their due diligence, yet it’s still being cited as fact on Twitter by sitting US senators and in a recent vice presidential debate by Kamala Harris. If news reporters had spent anywhere near as much energy cautioning their audiences to be skeptical about this story and educating them about its plot holes as they’re spending on Hunter Biden’s emails, this would not be happening.


The problem is not that there are high evidentiary standards for Hunter Biden’s emails, the problem is that there are virtually no evidentiary standards when the plutocratic media want to sell the world on a narrative which benefits the establishment upon which the media-owning class has built its kingdom. News reports will be waved through on a vague assertion by some anonymous government operative if they are damaging to Russia, Iran, China, North Korea, Syria or any other US-targeted nation, and they are on a pretty much daily basis to greater or lesser degrees.


As soon as a report becomes inconvenient for a friend of the national security state like Joe Biden, suddenly strict evidentiary standards and warnings against potential disinformation are of paramount importance. This is the same as lying all the time.
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Re: The Russian Conspiracy as RI subject

Postby Harvey » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:19 pm

As important, I thought:

Twitter claims it found the emails to be in violation of its policies banning content which contained private information and its rules against “hacked materials”, both of which would have forbidden all articles sharing the contents of the 2016 WikiLeaks drops if those rules had existed back then. As I warned could happen back in August, these rules have set the stage for the cross-platform censorship of a 2020 October surprise.
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Some interesting cross-posts!

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:57 am

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Rescuing these from an, um, problematic thread...

Marionumber1 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:20 pm wrote:
[... excellent less related stuff ...]

Even more worrying is this trope, however: For the last 4 years, the "alternative" media has been filled with assertions that Trump is the victim of attempted deep state plots against him. There is so little self-awareness on the part of these people who rail against Russiagate — the notion that Trump is some kind of novel existential threat to democracy whom the intelligence services are heroically working to oust — that their own version of the truth — the notion that Trump is some kind of novel existential threat to the corporate/imperialist state whom the intelligence services are disgracefully working to oust — is merely the other side of the same coin.

The fact that both purported sides (the "anti"-Trump "liberal" media and the "alternative" press) of the issue reinforce the idea of a fundamental divide between Trump and the deep state should be a major red flag. In reality, Trump is just another deep state puppet in a long line, and appearances to the contrary are part of a professional wrestling-esque propaganda operation. He was installed against the will of the electorate through the same corrupt e-voting systems that gave us Bush in 2000 and 2004, Scott Walker in 2012, Clinton the Dem nominee in 2016, etc. On domestic policy, he has governed like a standard Republican president, working to slash regulations on big business and cut social programs. He posed as a critic of trade deals like the TPP while having no real opposition to the way that they allow corporate domination over national sovereignty (a good indication of what a "New World Order" actually is). On foreign policy, he posed as anti-war, yet bombed Syria right at the same time Hillary Clinton was advocating it in response to a likely false flag blamed on Assad (which even Obama didn't do in response to the prior such false flag in 2013), overtly armed anti-Russia forces in Ukraine (which even Obama didn't do), has continued the proxy war in Yemen, assassinated a top military official in Iran earlier this year (!), and acts like he would withdraw from Afghanistan but is hamstrung by Congress despite being the commander in chief.

Why, given a record like this, would the deep state want to remove Trump? And if the deep state now wants him removed, then who exactly was rigging this deep state-controlled voting infrastructure to install him in the first place? The most rational answer is that they don't want to remove Trump at all.

Larry Chin's article briefly makes the case that this is because Trump's administration has been subverted from within by the deep state, but that notion is also ludicrous:

In addition to being assaulted from outside (Purple Revolution, Russia/hack, Robert Mueller, impeachment threats, etc.), he is being sabotaged and subverted from inside the White House, and from inside his innermost circle, by the likes of National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, Dina Habib Powell and the West Wing globalists including Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Gary Cohn, and Steve Mnuchin.

McMaster has purged the administration of Trump loyalists and populists, and replaced with Bush/Obama/Clinton/Deep State operatives, and runs foreign policy with vice president Mike Pence.

Pence routinely issues statements contradictory to Trump’s own ideas. He has not been the focus of any mainstream media criticism. This Bush loyalist is in perfect position to become president in the event of Trump’s removal (by whatever means that occurs).

The neocon generals—Mattis, McMaster, Kelly—“oversee” and control Trump on all matters, treating him like a child. Kelly controls all information to and from Trump.


Putting aside the fairly laughable claim that part of the conspiracy to subvert Trump from within includes his own daughter, at what point can Trump be said to have responsibility for what the rest of his administration is doing? His "innermost circle" is made up of people he appointed. Is he just too much of an idiot to know what's going on, and they're using him as the public face while they implement their own agenda? Probably yes, at least in part, but that is no different from Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush, both of whom were obviously "deep state" presidents. Whatever Reagan, Dubya, or Trump claim to stand on the campaign trail for hardly matters. Hell, Dubya campaigned as a non-interventionist, and look how that turned out. What their administration actually does matters. So if Trump is being used as a puppet while the real decision-makers accomplish their agenda, well, there's absolutely nothing unprecedented about that. The deep state isn't scared of a president who has nothing more than rhetoric against them; to the contrary, they encourage such things because it is a very useful tool to mask what's actually going on.

In an era where more people are starting to wake up to the endemic corruption in our political system, we are likely going to see more puppets like Trump falsely sold as outsiders. And in order to legitimize that image, we will likely have the establishment waging an illusory war on those puppets, pretending that they are some unparalleled threat who needs to be removed from office. Then this fake war will fizzle out (like Russiagate did), and the establishment will have gotten the puppet to faithfully enact its agenda in the meantime but pretend to be disappointed with the outcome. It is going to keep going on like this as long as enough people fail to realize that the puppet and the establishment on the same team.



Harvey » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:59 am wrote:A good analysis Marionumber1.

As some of us have pointed out since November/December 2016,* even if Trump wasn't merely a symptom of the American Nightmare and even if he really intended to 'drain the swamp' while protecting workers and jobs, the deep state already had in place their strategy to make his presidency work for their interests, with the added benefit of being cheered on by the nominal left. Trump provided acceptable cover for deepstate to continue foundational work on Cold War 2.0 and associated spending, industrial scale deregulation, decimation of the middle class etc, with the upside of taking none of the flak. Almost exactly what occured throughout the Obama years in fact.

The real cost of Trump for them was the lasting reputational damage to brand Americaᵀᴹ while deepstate actually managed to posture as 'resistance' to itself for a while, carrying almost all of 'liberal' media with it. By focussing Democrats, centrists, liberals and some notional progressives against Trump via Russia, the whole circus was able to limp through another four years, even as it achieved many of its goals. As a bonus, the affair served to divert attention away from the Russian billionaire class, the so called 'oligarchs' whom America itself had created through Yeltsin and from whose cup the entire American (and British) political elite are happy to sup.

With Harris poised to resume Obama's role as soon as she becomes President, I'm expecting a triumphant return to form: a resurgence of terrorism in the age of Covid, more chemical attack false flags, many more 'humanitarian' wars and the end of free movement.

https://www.allsides.com/story/house-democrats-introduce-legislation-create-25th-amendment-commission

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Maryland Rep. Jamie Raskin announced new legislation on Friday to establish a permanent "Commission on Presidential Capacity" under the 25th Amendment. The 25th Amendment allows for congress to transfer power to the vice president if the president is deemed “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.”


*Many of us have been vindicated by everything which subsequently emerged from Russiagate, right up to recent 'revelations' that Democrats (Clinton et al) were planning Russiagate long before the election took place. (You don't say.)

https://www.rt.com/usa/502757-trump-clinton-russia-collusion-declassification/

The declassified notes suggest that Brennan had briefed Obama on a “plan” by then-Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton to smear Trump with allegations of ‘Russian collusion’




JackRiddler » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:47 am wrote:
Harvey » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:59 am wrote:As a bonus, the affair served to divert attention away from the Russian billionaire class, the so called 'oligarchs' whom America itself had created through Yeltsin and from whose cup the entire American (and British) political elite are happy to sup.


Well said on all of it, but with a big YES regarding this oft-ignored point. The "Russian" influence on Trump is not the Russian state or the oligarchs around Putin, but the earlier generation produced by Yeltsin during the period of quasi-American control, who laundered their fortunes into the West (with Trump Org a relatively minor business among the hundreds of laundries) and are now an international mob, partly at home in the U.S. and supporting right-wing politics here. So literal long-time FBI informants and CIA cut-outs like Sater and Mifsud (definitely) or Deripaska and Killink (sure look like it) are presented both as members of Putin's kitchen-cabinet and as powerful influencers over Trump. The latter was accomplished via two Trump 2016 campaign managers who together lasted for a few weeks and ran the campaign into the ground, before the (never-mentioned) Mercers and Bannon took it over, turned it around, and brought it to its unexpected victory. The American oligarchs who are everywhere around the Trump victory are never mentioned, minor Russian oligarchs who had nothing to do with it are who aren't connected to Putin are magically credited with both by the #Russiagaters. How is this absurdity possible? There's one word that explains it all too well, and this too often goes ignored even among us #Russiagate skeptics: xenophobia. (Yasha Levine, as an actual Russian, is one who has covered this well.) Any Russian will do. No journalistic fact-checking or provenance is necessary to establish just who this Russian is. Any Russian, at whatever remove from Trump (or Manafort or Flynn), is sufficient to indicate an image of total evil centered always on their pro-Trump Borg mother ship commanded by their dictator Putin in the Kremlin.

To complete the picture, all we need is for one of the Deripaskas or whoever to shovel some money into the DNC and be accepted as an anti-Putin grand friend of democracy.

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