Manchester concert incident

[norton ash]

20 confirmed deaths, possible bombs.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-40007886

[seemslikeadream]

50 injured

British police says responding to serious incident at venue where Ariana Grande performing
By Alistair Smout | LONDON
British police said on Monday they had responded to a serious incident at a venue in the northern English city of Manchester where U.S. singer Ariana Grande had been performing.

"Emergency services responding to serious incident at Manchester Arena," Greater Manchester Police said. "Avoid the area."

Witnesses reported hearing a huge bang at the venue, Sky News said on Monday.

A video posted on Twitter showed fans screaming and running inside the venue.

Reuters was not immediately able to verify the reports on social media.

Britain is on its second-highest alert level of "severe" meaning an attack by militants is considered highly likely.

(Editing by Guy Faulconbridge)
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brita ... 8I2OP?il=0

[Grizzly]

obfuscation... Can you say it?

[Byrne]

FRom a comment on Craig Murray's blog article here. Craig also has an article Manchester Explosion with some video info etc.
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From an updated BBC News article Manchester Arena blast: 19 dead and about 50 hurt issued/updated
2017-05-23 01:00:06 UTC 2017-05-23 01:35:06 UTC

Manchester explosion: Latest updates
BBC Home Affairs Correspondent Daniel Sandford said senior counter-terrorism officers were assembling in London and liaising with the Home Office.
Unconfirmed reports from two unnamed US officials suggested the attack was carried out by a suicide bomber.
Shortly after the blast Manchester Victoria station, which is close to the concert venue, was closed and all trains cancelled.
Greater Manchester Police carried out a precautionary controlled explosion in the Cathedral Garden area of the city at about 01:32. The force confirmed it was not a suspicious item.

Prime Minister Theresa May has said her thoughts are with the victims and families of those affected in "what is being treated by the police as an appalling terrorist attack".

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[MacCruiskeen]

[...] Unconfirmed reports from two unnamed US officials suggested the attack was carried out by a suicide bomber. [...]

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Why did "US officials" know anything at all about this incident, especially so soon after it happened? It was not an attack on the US embassy or on any US company; it was an attack on English teenagers at a concert hall in NW England.

Why are these "US officials" unnamed?

What kind of "officials" are they? CIA officals, maybe? (Why so coy?)

Why is the BBC quoting these "two unnamed US officials" at all, especially when what they say is "unconfirmed"? How did they get in touch with them, and why?

Questions, questions...

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Certainly any kind of TERROR is a very welcome distraction for the execrable Teresa May and her repulsive Tory Party, who have just had an embarrassingly awful week in the run-up to the Election, whose numbers have been declining fast in the polls, and who can now suddenly start acting all solemnly caring and looking all toughly Presidential.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

[Grizzly]

21 years ago BBC has no problem laying blame on the Irish for '96 Manchester bombing; today, not one word on suspects or their associations (news.bbc.co.uk)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/date ... 527009.stm

[Rory]

ISIS/Gladio International, pretty much guaranteed Labour won't win the election. I had the same thought when I saw the news, Mac. The Tories have been tanking in the polls lately - Corbyn is drawing significant crowds to his events and despite uniform negativity from the press, and a couple of Royal assists (by way of the Phillip announcement, and quasi Royal wedding), the Tory party have been crumbling.

They really thought Corbyn would win to have gone ahead and done this.

[MacCruiskeen]

The UK state was responsible for many of the atrocities attributed to the IRA, and for many of the horrible murders carried out by sadistic Loyalist gangs with their full knowledge, support and approval. The UK state was also responsible for imprisoning untold numbers of innocent Irish people, some of whom were only released and exonerated a decade or more after they had been framed.up and sent down to grow old in jail (Birmingham Six, Guildford Four, Maguire Seven, Judith Ward...)

Nowadays the UK state doesn't make that kind of elementary mistake. Nowadays they don't risk any such embarassments. Nowadays they make sure the patsies never even come to trial. Suicide bombers, don't you know.

All Gladio all the time.

[MacCruiskeen]

And yeah, The Pigfucking Party, in its desperation, was attempting to tie Jeremy Corbyn to the IRA all last week. How remarkably convenient TERROR™ can be.

[Rory]

I have a mental block around the idea of suicide bombers. Not that they don't happen, but for the sake of OpSec they represent a high level of unpredictability. My cod theory here is that there was indeed a pasty with what he thought was a bomb, maybe an actor for a terror drill. The live, military device is then placed in a convenient location (trashcan, sound speaker, ect..) with all the failsafe guarantees in case they go off script.

[MacCruiskeen]

I knew she was ruthless, but ...

AFP news agency‏ Verified Account @AFP

#BREAKING UK police believe they know identity of Manchester attacker: PM May

03:18 - 23. May 2017

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/866961559259623424

So let's hope it was a suicide attack.


An Evil Fanatic

[Rory]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ana-grande

"Salman Abedi is thought to have been known to both the police and the security services. "

Heard that one before..

[stefano]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/23/manchester-arena-attacker-named-salman-abedi-suicide-attack-ariana-grande

"Salman Abedi is thought to have been known to both the police and the security services. "

Heard that one before..

From that:

Police confirmed the 22-year-old’s identity after officials in the United States passed it to news reporters, apparently against the wishes of the police and security services in the UK.

Anonymous US officials, too. As Mac pointed out, what the fuck is up with that?

And this is not true:

Abu Ismael Abedi, who worked as an odd-job man in Manchester, is thought to be in Tripoli. His wife, Samia, is thought to be in Manchester. “He comes and goes between here and there,” the family friend said. “I can’t believe he would have been radicalised in Tripoli. All those types have been driven out of the city. It must have happened here.

That's pretty much the opposite of true. The beardie motherfuckers are in charge in Tripoli, and tight with terrorist brigades that not long ago committed a war crime against LNA troops they'd captured.

Could the UK and US use this as a pretext to start helping the LNA? The Egyptians and Algerians would like them to but the Saudis and the Turks and the Qataris and the Emiratis wouldn't. So, guess they won't - they'll keep sending arms to the lunatics and then wonder how it could happen that someone could kill children using a bomb? How?

This is the result of UK-sponsored 'rebels' targeting Shia refugees in Syria last month. 120+ dead, at least 80 children.

[tapitsbo]

HTS (ex-JFS/al-Nusra) in Syria isn't even considered terrorist anymore in North America, and it's legal to fund them

This is justified because they "haven't targeted Western civilians."

Well, they have no problem targeting other civilians...