elsagate

[seemslikeadream]

and you?

go peddle your crap elsewhere

and you ....how much do you get?

I bet you've never donated a dime to keep this place running and now you complain/and more about how the blogs have disappeared "mysteriously" but it doesn't stop you from posting here does it?

RI has given you a forum to post your heart's content for 4 years now ...grow up

[mentalgongfu2]

You don't have to google it, and I don't have to explain it to you. It's weird that you were already paying attention though - you don't have to do that.

Technically, you don't have to do anything. But this is a discussion board. Odd that someone would post a new topic on a discussion board without bothering to explain the subject of discussion. Or that they would feign surprise when asked about it. Kinda weird, no? For anyone posting with genuine intentions, that is. I suppose it makes sense for someone who is being a disingenuous troll, though. Thanks for the confirmation.

[tapitsbo]

I wish you all surprise and ingenuity, and weirdness and oddness.

Sorry that my sarcasm prickled you. Came on a fact finding mission looking for containment/deflection/gatekeeping devices but even the trusty old suppliers seem to be absent today.. enjoy being here forever!

[mentalgongfu2]

It's not the sarcasm that prickles me. It's the blatant attempt at baiting and trolling, apparently because you're still angry people smarter than you pointed out the inherent bullshit and intellectual shallowness that surrounds the "pizzagate" myth.

Came on a fact finding mission looking for containment/deflection/gatekeeping devices but even the trusty old suppliers seem to be absent today.. enjoy being here forever!

It must be disappointing when you go on a witch hunt and the witches don't show up. Enjoy your descent into madness and/or irrelevance.

[mentalgongfu2]

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[tapitsbo]

None of that crew pointed anything out clever here during that time, just stuck fingers in their ears and squealed.

Having a garbage can labelled "Pizzagate myth" to shove everything incovenient into won't stop decades worth of sludge from spilling out...

[mentalgongfu2]

I don't know who you deem to be a member of "that crew," and frankly don't care. No need for a list. Whatever truth there is about child abuse among the powerful, none of it is contained in that barrel of sludge labelled PG. There are plenty of minds open to evidence of such wrongdoing here and all across the Interwebs (in fact, many know such things do exist). Unfortunately, people such as yourself seem determined to muddy the waters by connecting real horrors with the delusional ravings contained in that farce of an "investigation" and promoted by the trolls, tricksters and disinfo artists that prowl places like 4chan. Good day, sir.

[liminalOyster]

Whatever truth there is about child abuse among the powerful, none of it is contained in that barrel of sludge labelled PG.

Unfortunately, however, the larger #pizzagate™ media universe does now contain lots and lots of truth about real elite pedo history and is sadly (and by far, IMHO) the most well-known moniker for said phenomena. It's a bit of a clusterfuck.

[tapitsbo]

In rigorousintutionland only old dead or dying unfashionable people do sketchy things, not the culture we're swimming in...

the idea that "nice, cool people" could be enthusiastic boosters of very creepy projects of actual witches (like the kinds who manage policies for institutions that deal with young people) is too uncomfortable and Neapolitan cheese pie gives the perfect license to never have to acknowledge or process it.

[barracuda]

Interesting subject, and lots of theories out there regarding what's going on with the videos:

- child programming of some sort

- grooming children for pedophiles

- encoded urls to dark web child porn sites

- a viral phenomenon propagated by YouTube's "suggested content" algos

- click farming

- nonsense content epidemic

...or some combination of these. Lots of very young kids out there with digital babysitters, that's for sure.

[liminalOyster]

Following from a March BBC article on /r/elsagate, I just looked at a view of these and they are indeed actually pretty damn disturbing, regardless what their origins are. Although I could imagine on cursory glance that the weirdly elevated view counts are mostly due to the vids not having gotten properly filtered out as kid-inappropriate and likely popping up when distracted parents try to find *something* for their kids. At least that's my starting theory. What I don't get, however, is that in the video I just watched (which I wish I had not and will not link to) the adults are entirely identifiable. If they're linked to dark web stuff, I'm at least surprised they're so blase/brazen about it. Also, the video I just watched is a pretty explicit reference to the pizzagate photo with that child taped down at Comet Ping Pong. Really not sure what's going on here. But don't like the vibe I get at all.

[mentalgongfu2]

Unfortunately, however, the larger #pizzagate™ media universe does now contain lots and lots of truth about real elite pedo history and is sadly (and by far, IMHO) the most well-known moniker for said phenomena. It's a bit of a clusterfuck.

Liminal, like I said, muddying the waters and poisoning the well. Real cases are now tainted by the bogus email "codewords" and the factually-challenged theories surrounding some pizza joint in DC and the true believer who walked in with his rifle.They got two birds with one stone on that one - discrediting abuse stories that have actual evidence to support them and the ability to accuse anyone who ever says/types the words pizza, swimming, or children in proximity to each other of being part of the conspiracy,

In rigorousintutionland only old dead or dying unfashionable people do sketchy things, not the culture we're swimming in...

Tapitsbo, since no one has said this or anything close to it in this thread, and I actually said the opposite, it is clear that your projections are showing again.

I don't expect any dialogue to fix that, nor that a respectful dialogue is even possible given your approach and attitude. So just remember, YOU are the real victim here, and anyone who questions you or your dishonest intentions (by your own admission) in starting this thread, they are the real bad guys. You are the 1-2-3 Kid, and Razor Ramon is against you because he is an enemy of truth. An inability to prove your righteousness is not a sign of failure, but, in fact, proof that you are correct about everything. Don't ever let doubts or disbelief distract you from your noble crusade. Logic is a tool of the sheep, but real wolves act on faith alone, and are not deceived by flimsy things such as observable reality and that which can be proved or disproved. Insinuations contains the word "sin." Pizza contains the word "pi," which represents the diameter of evil to the circumference of the lie. Can this be mere coincidence? What are the odds? Rhetorical questions themselves prove all anyone needs to know, don't they? This is the water, and this is the well. Drink full and descend. The horse is the white of the eyes, and dark within.

[Jerky]

Tapitsbo, setting aside your unwarranted sneering condescension for a moment, I'm glad to see that you subconsciously found my take on the alt-right's disingenuous (and yet no less rabid/dangerous for being so) politically motivated, literal Nazi era-reflecting public eruption over the dangers of "decadent art" as part of the PizzaGate psyop to be so powerful that it still occupies space as an ideologically inconvenient irritant somewhere in the sputtering coils of that brain of yours after all these long months have passed.

Sincerely;
yer old pal Jerky

PS - It seems to me that you and your fellow PizzaGate useful idiot True Believers are the ones making up the organized brigade of shrieking lunatics.

PPS - All I know of this "Elsagate" of which Tabitspo types is the first page of results from Google, which is enough to prove to any thinking person that any comparison between it and, say, the sort of artwork collected by John Podesta's brother, is entirely specious and wholly without merit on its face.

PPPS - But hey, good effort though. Keep it up for another year or so, and you might even manage to convince yourself!

Someone is massively inflating the view counts of cartoon and live action Youtube videos (so that hundreds of thousands of dollars are made off of the ad revenue) aimed at young children but which include extremely bizarre sexualized content, etc (lots of red flags that suggest grooming for organized abuse.) The uploaders have been shown to be bankers, comedians, "social media experts, etc."

The bigger question is how any scrutiny of this is supposed to see the light of day when it can be quashed so effectively with the framing "evil repressed pervert authoritarians HATE ART!"

and...

"the CRAZY PEOPLE who talk about this kind of stuff just might try and SHOOT people if they find out too much like happened at that PIZZA place"

etc. etc.

Same goes when literal advocates of "adult-child sex" design school initiatives/curricula. Notably, this sort of thing is not hidden, but occurs out in the open, because only a "bigot" would care right?

The cognitive dissonance is that being revulsed by this stuff is not considered "bigoted" by most people - yet the organized brigades come out to screech at the right time in these cases and most people learn to shut up and not pay attention.

[yathrib]

Generally, I will give what is presented as art the benefit of the doubt, and if it doesn't appeal to me, or I flat out don't understand it, I will try to imagine a point of view from which it is appealing, insightful, and/or technically accomplished. At the very least, I will try to understand what and why the artist is doing what he or she is doing. That being said, I've hit a wall with regard to the art patronized by Podesta and the "spirit cooking": gang. So my question is at what point does art become subject to ordinary strictures of morality, etc.? Because I am utterly convinced that such a point exists. The modern/postmodern image of the artist as a mad, bad, sad outsider is not something that is universal in the way art itself is. In other words, when is "degenerate art" actually a thing? Or do artists get a moral/ethical blank check that pretty much no one else in human society gets or has ever gotten?

[Wombaticus Rex]

In other words, when is "degenerate art" actually a thing? Or do artists get a moral/ethical blank check that pretty much no one else in human society gets or has ever gotten?

Would recommend a copy of the Feral House anthology Apocalypse Culture II. An approximate atlas of that exactly valley / fault line / abyss.