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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:39 pm

By the way: Those many images of the carriage's pristine interior appear to be disappearing quickly from Google, or at least from the front pages of Google Images.

If that French guy hadn't ventured to take those high-quality still and moving pictures of the squeaky-clean interior immediately after the attack the passengers' departure, we would have nothing to measure those extraordinary descriptions of an Inferno against -- except for the low-quality, carefully close-cropped specimens that are still (for some unimaginable reason) easily findable by googling.

edits: link to video added, one word corrected
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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby Burnt Hill » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:54 pm

A bag of life would be a Dr's bag, or a first aid kit or an ambu bag used essentially to "bag" someone to life.
* An ambu bag is the squeezable bag of air/O2 used to provide oxygen to someone who is not breathing.
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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:33 pm

^^No, he was specifically referring to the Lidl plastic bag the bucket was in. The quote is in the Mail on Sunday article I posted upthread.
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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby SonicG » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:55 pm

I think the bag of life/Lidl bag is just a spell-correct problem...
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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:06 pm

^^Certainly not. (Are you joking? :lol: ) Lidl is a major supermarket chain all over Europe, with hundreds of stores in the UK for at least the last decade. Like "Sainsbury's" or "Tesco", "Lidl" is now an English word spoken several million times daily. Any spellchecker recognises it.
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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby Burnt Hill » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:28 pm

Okay, apparently a "bag for life" is a relatively common term in the UK for a re-usable shopping bag
(I have a cousin in the UK).

As in you can use the same bag for the rest of your life.
Kinda makes sense now.
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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:44 pm

^^Really? Interesting. That must be a new English coinage. It's one I certainly hadn't heard before. Just goes to show it's a very novel concept for the Brits, using a carrier bag more than once. No wonder there's a Great Pacific Gyre filled with plastic junk. (I wonder how many "bags for life" it already contains. What do they cost? 50p? That should ensure a lifetime's use.)

Thank you, though, seriously. I was honestly wondering if he was on an acid trip.
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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:11 pm

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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby Elvis » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:41 pm

The next video after Mac's link above—a 16-year old witness, "I just started crying":

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-can ... ted-crying


Here's a theory to ruminate: What if the bucket bomb was designed to only make a big flame, which would scorch a few scalps, but not actually kill or maim anyone. The PR value seems to be about the same.

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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:23 am

That "interview" too is just unspeakable. The British Broadcasting Corporation is allegedly a news organisation, a publicly funded one with an enormous budget. So the Beeb gains access to a direct eyewitness to the "wall of fire" (sic) in that Tube carriage. and what is the result of their meeting? What's the fruit of the Beeb's very best efforts?

It is: 77 seconds of worthless sanctimonious bullshit. It contains practically no information whatsoever, except that the boy felt tearful while heading homewards (how amazing!), and that he lives in a very posh house in very posh Guildford with his very posh Dad. We are shown Dad making a cup of tea while chatting about nothing with his (completely unburnt) very posh son. We then see the BBC's salarywoman nodding & frowning solemnly as this one minute and seventeen seconds of empty propaganda draws to a merciful close. She asks not one single fucking question.

The BBC is beneath contempt. Who are they trying to kid? Everyone, that's who. And boy, are they ever succeeding.

The BBC is established under a Royal Charter[11] and operates under its Agreement with the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport.[12] Its work is funded principally by an annual television licence fee[13] which is charged to all British households, companies, and organisations using any type of equipment to receive or record live television broadcasts and iPlayer catch-up.[14] The fee is set by the British Government, agreed by Parliament,[15] and used to fund the BBC's radio, TV, and online services covering the nations and regions of the UK. Since 1 April 2014, it has also funded the BBC World Service (launched in 1932 as the BBC Empire Service), which broadcasts in 28 languages and provides comprehensive TV, radio, and online services in Arabic and Persian.

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The BBC has the second largest budget of any UK-based broadcaster with an operating expenditure of £4.722 billion in 2013/14[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC


Why are these excuses-for-journalists going to such efforts to avoid investigating what happened? (That's a rhetorical question.)
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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:43 am

Re: "wall of fire":

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Just a reminder that words have serious meanings, while the hacks do their best to obscure that fact.
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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:46 am

Elvis » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:41 pm wrote:Here's a theory to ruminate: What if the bucket bomb was designed to only make a big flame, which would scorch a few scalps, but not actually kill or maim anyone. The PR value seems to be about the same.

:shrug:


That crossed my mind too. Even this non-event gets plastered across the world's front pages and TV screens. Total cost? 1 bucket + 1 plastic bag + some fireworks + fairy lights + petroleum = about 30 quid, all told. Certainly cheaper than another 9/11, and just as effective, these days.

It's a highly economical way of keeping the population bamboozled and jittery. Zero risk of discovery, too, because, y'know, who cares? No one's paying attention and the "news" cycle has already moved on.
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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby SonicG » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:04 am

I stand corrected on the typo thing...Either way, it is a minor point and I don't disagree at all with something really being suss here. I'm not an often subway rider anymore, but I don't think there is anyway a bright white odd-looking bag like that would go left unattended, or that people nearby on the train would not be eyeballing it from when the dude first gets on...Or am I wrong? That outfit too..wtf?
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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby Elvis » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:16 am

The "gel" could be just flame itself. Wikipedia says:

"Very hot flames are hot enough to have ionized gaseous components of sufficient density to be considered plasma" and

"Plasma (from Ancient Greek πλάσμα, meaning "moldable substance"[1] or "jelly")[2] is one of the four fundamental states of matter, while the others are solid, liquid, and gas.

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Re: Parsons Green Tube Bucket Bomb

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:42 am

Elvis wrote:The "gel" could be just flame itself. Wikipedia says:

"Very hot flames are hot enough to have ionized gaseous components of sufficient density to be considered plasma" and

"Plasma (from Ancient Greek πλάσμα, meaning "moldable substance"[1] or "jelly")[2] is one of the four fundamental states of matter, while the others are solid, liquid, and gas.

:shrug:


Superhot gaseous ionized plasma. :shock: The bucket contained a nuclear reactor. This is serious stuff.

No wonder there were no survivors. Every passenger must have been instantly vaporised, along with all the seats.
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