Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

[Brentos]

yeah re: the variation in sounds in the taxi cab video, some are saying that it is due to paddock shooting in one direction, out of window, then down the hallway in another. idk, think that one video debunks the echo argument at least. The sounds in videos of multiple overlapping bursts over the machine gun fire are very compelling.
I guess that surefire modded AR15's can have 100 round magazines, which paddock allegedly possessed. So again, the arguments of there being m240's instead, in terms of fire duration at least, dont seem so compelling. Yet many alleged ex machine gunners are convinced it is either an m240 or m249. who knows.

I tend to believe, based on gut feelings, that testimonies of people who were actually there (including police scanner audio) have more credibility than reports thereafter. Like this guy, who seems very legit: https://www.facebook.com/GioRios/posts/1617509348294275

"There was more than one shooter, I believe there was 4-5 shooters and I saw/heard 4 of them and there was one of their men down in the concert who lit fire crackers either to distract people and make them believe the rest of the popping sounds were fire crackers for at least 10 seconds to get more casualties before realizing they were gun shots or to decoy the Mandalay Bay shooter breaking the windows of the hotel without being noticed right away as the fire crackers went off twice because the second time the shooter at Mandalay Bay unloaded his first magazine.
The person who lit the fire crackers was right next to me as it blew my eardrums (right side of the stage facing the stage closer to the front of the stage)
The first shooter was at the Mandalay Bay, then MGM Grand and Excalibur/New York New York and Tropicana. These are confirmed by me personally and the shooter from Mandalay I believe was shooting an LMG with 100 rounds each go.
I will tell my story and hope to get shares and the truth spread as the news is making it out to be ONE shooter."

[stickdog99]

[stickdog99]

[stickdog99]

[Elvis]

Two distinct sources of gunfire around the 2:00 mark?

Now that's interesting.
(It's the first on-the-scene video I've watched; I haven't watched the taxi video, maybe I will now, but I don't want to see people getting shot.)


A few thoughts on questions that came up:


Perhaps the explosives found in the car were left there for getaway purposes. (Perhaps Paddock expected to escape, but...?)
(Wild speculation: Is it certain that no one exited the broken windows and rappelled down the side of the building?)


Whoever set up the surveillance cameras in the hallway (Paddock or not) likely had no reason to record the video, but rather just to monitor the hallway live, and there was probably some reason not to record it.


The uniformed guards again: '“The man that they [security] were chasing was wearing a security jacket like them,” she said.'
If the operation involved many people, it seems to make sense to have some of them in hotel security uniforms.

This sounds like PTSD.

It does, and many other details (including Danley's sisters' remarks, the "anxiety" and Valium etc.) suggest to me that Paddock was psychologically capable of the crime. At the same time I keep in mind that for the 'moaning and screaming in his sleep', we're relying on the girlfriend Danley's account; maybe she is in on it and, to mix metaphors, is following a game plan and helping to paint a legend? (However, I doubt this; she seems more like a "kept" woman.)

If Paddock did suffer PTSD, sans military experience, perhaps it indeed came from involvement in the spook world?

I was all ready to think, "yeah, he did it," but that video above, with audio of the simultaneous rapid-fire, sure does jibe with the now several eyewitness accounts of multiple shooters.


Has anyone seen the phone video (I saw it on FB) of what looks like muzzle flashes, and sounds like rapid-fire gunshots, coming from approximately the fourth floor?

[Brentos]

Has anyone seen the phone video (I saw it on FB) of what looks like muzzle flashes, and sounds like rapid-fire gunshots, coming from approximately the fourth floor?

I think that is in stick dogs' last video he posted.

[stickdog99]

[SonicG]

Well, if they are officially suspecting another persons...shouldn't all of Vegas be on lock-down? A cold-blooded mass killer is on the loose...They will have a hard time walking this back...

I haven't been able to watch everything but, again, there did not seem to be a window knocked out on the 4th or any other floor. I am not saying there was not a second or more shooters but it is important to keep in mind. Of course, so much chaos was perfect cover even for shooters in the crowd I suppose...
Also, the carrying in of the guns is a red herring. Those Vegas hotels are massive with various elevators and the front desk usually off in a corner. It is not like he had to sneak past the front desk one time. Especially if there are elevators straight up from a parking garage or whatever. And especially if had an accomplice, bringing them up over a few days would have been pretty easy. I also imagine the three days of "Do not disturb" is probably not so rare in Vegas, with people gambling, doing coke all night etc... Of course, they should now be sifting through the video for footage of Paddock et. al. bringing the guns in, but will we ever see any of that??

[SonicG]

Yeah..I am with Grandma!

Grandma Dynomite Grandma Dynomite
1 hour ago
DEMOCRATS WANT A CIVIL WAR - DEMOCRATS WANT TO BRING IN FEMA AND THE UN TO TAKE CONTROL AND PUT CONSERVATIVES - PEOPLE IN CAMPS, JAIL - COMPLETELY TAKE OVER LIVES AND GOVERNMENT. SOMEONE HAS TO GO FOR THE TOP OF THE DEMOCRATS AND ATTACK...THEY WILL NEVER DIVIDE US - WE NEED TO STICK TOGETHER - THE NEWS IS CORRUPT SO LOOK FOR THE TRUE DAILY TRUTH

Ah, if only things were so simple...just dump everyone in a FEMA camp and lock down the Internet forever except for corporations...Nah mang, you are just going to get more and more and more cameras (hey, doesn't hurt Singapore!), and a SWAT team at your door if you don't let the maid into your room by 11 AM every day...

[Elvis]

Has anyone seen the phone video (I saw it on FB) of what looks like muzzle flashes, and sounds like rapid-fire gunshots, coming from approximately the fourth floor?

I think that is in stick dogs' last video he posted.

Just saw that, thanks. No broken window the next day. (But of course a professional spook ops team could lift the window out and put it back in, right?) (Not that I think that.)

[stefano]

Yup, that's the one I was at ...

Ira Attebury Shooting at 1979 Battle of Flowers Parade
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... =8&t=32763

Wow, hectic Miles.

[semper occultus]

I don't think he had a tattoo on his throat.



Also I don't think anyone with an interest in remaining connected to reality should be reading Aangirfan.

hey thanks for the advice man - FYI I don't read the site - I was linking to a single picture they hosted on there that - as it was post mortem - I didn't want to post directly . And the fact remains - whether he has a tattoo or not - he has some sort of mark on his throat which registers on photographs - even discernible on that picture .

[Sounder]

There is a crime scene photo posted at the Daily-Mail that shows very few bullet casings.

This seems odd, for a room where 200 shots were allegedly fired at a security guard and many hundreds more shot at the crowd outside.

Maybe they are all behind the curtain, or maybe the operators are mocking us by showing glaring inconsistencies, knowing that it will all remain behind the curtain because people do not really want to know what is going on.

[stefano]

Starbucks staff remember Paddock as being a shit to his woman:

The workers behind the counter at the Starbucks inside the Virgin River Casino in Mesquite, Nev., winced whenever Stephen Paddock and his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, lined up for their usual beverages.

That’s because Paddock had a nasty habit of berating Danley in public. “It happened a lot,” Esperanza Mendoza, supervisor of the Starbucks, said Tuesday.

Their order was always the same. He’d get a venti mocha cappuccino and she a medium caramel macchiato.

Workers remembered Paddock as a tall man with a big beer belly and heavy bags under his eyes.

“He looked like he never slept because of the large bags under his eyes,” Mendoza said.

Danley stood only elbow high to Paddock, she said.

The abuse would come when she asked to use his casino card to make the purchase, Mendoza said. The card enables gamblers to use credits earned on electronic gambling machines to pay for souvenirs or food in the casino.

“He would glare down at her and say — with a mean attitude — ‘You don’t need my casino card for this. I’m paying for your drink, just like I’m paying for you.’ Then she would softly say, ‘OK’ and step back behind him. He was so rude to her in front of us.”

I came across this on a weird internet excursion that took me to r/hapas. I think the psychosexual angle of the thing is relevant - the moneyed white loner with the Asian companion he had a habit of talking down to.

edit - his ex-wife was also Asian

California records show that Paddock married a woman named Peggy Okamoto in 1985. They divorced in 1990 citing “irreconcilable differences.”

[JackRiddler]

So, sampling the above: Shooters in the crowd, 30,000 people there, many of them taking footage even as others are shot right next to them; shooters at the Mandalay Bay, shooters at other casinos, broken glass and presumably bodies at the front of the Bellagio, hundreds of thousands of people on the strip, everyone's got a camera, footage of none of that from any distance; cops, security, instant glass repairmen, reporters, anchors, feds, EMTs, coroners, hospital personnel, everyone who saw something is conforming to the cover-up. Somehow all this killed only 59 people at the concert site, bodies scattered at all the other locations successfully passed off as dead at the concert. Full cover-up, everyone with concrete evidence goes with it and uploads nothing because Vegas needs tourists. Luckily there's a few sites with purported accounts that sound credible to someone, the truth will out. And none of you taking this seriously wants to suggest a motive or a responsible group. Don't get pinned down now. All because one guy with money and means planning this for months is just inconceivable, psychos like that don't exist but a hidden army of them and their fellow-travelers does.