Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:42 am

That's such a tacky hotel room. Fake opulence.

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The news ended five days of speculation over the whereabouts of the security guard, who was shot as he passed outside gunman Stephen Paddock’s hotel room and who holds important information on who knew what and when as the shooting rampage got underway.

Reporters had been looking for Campos to help explain what happened in the moments before Paddock began firing at the crowd assembled for a country music festival opposite the hotel — and how long it took for police to respond.

Shifting timelines given by police and near-total silence from Mandalay Bay’s owners have left Campos as one of the only potential sources of first-hand information on how the shooting rampage unfolded and how the hotel responded.

In a recording of his appearance on “Ellen” obtained by the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Campos, who said he was “doing better each day, slowly but surely,” confirmed he had called in when he was shot — before the full rampage began. But he gave few other details that would answer nagging questions about the response of hotel security and Las Vegas police.

Appearing in a gray suit and with a cane, Campos said he got an alert for an open door on the 32nd floor. He went up a stairwell from the 31st to the 32nd floor, but the stairwell door was blocked — apparently by the gunman — so he had to take another route to get to the floor.

When he got onto the 32nd floor and reached the stairwell door — which was inside a small room with two doors that separates the stairwell from the hallway, immediately adjacent to Paddock's suite — Campos found a “metal bracket” blocking the door to the stairwell.

He said he called security dispatch to transfer his call to the building's engineers, who sent an engineer to examine the door.

“At that time I heard what I assumed was drilling sounds,” Campos said. (Officials have said that Paddock appeared to be drilling into a wall inside his room for unknown reasons.) As Campos walked down the hall, away from Paddock's suite, the outer door of the access room, which was unblocked, closed loudly behind him.

“I believe that's what caught the shooter's attention,” Campos said. “As I was walking down, I heard rapid fire, and at first I took cover.” The gunman was shooting through the door of his hotel suite. “I don't know how he was shooting.”

Campos felt a “burning sensation” and went to lift his pant leg up and, seeing blood, realized he’d been shot.

“That's when I called it in on my radio that shots had been fired,” Campos said. “I was going to say that I was hit, but I got on my cellphone just to clear that radio traffic for — they can coordinate the rest of the call.”

Engineer Schuck, responding to Campos’ earlier call about a blocked door, arrived on a service elevator from a higher floor, and he spotted Campos at the end of a hallway. It was quiet as Schuck walked toward Paddock's end of the hallway. Then he saw Campos and heard gunshots.

“At the time I didn't know it was shooting; I thought it was a jackhammer,” Schuck said.

Campos said “take cover, take cover,” Schuck said. “Within milliseconds, if he didn't say that, I would have got hit.... They were passing behind my head, and I could feel pressure.”

One female guest came out of her room, and Campos told her to take cover in her room.

Campos thanked the first responders and the community for their work during their “darkest hour.”

DeGeneres hinted that Campos would not be giving any more interviews after appearing on her show, but that the appearance was unpaid.

“You're talking about it now and you're not going to talk about it again,” DeGeneres said, adding, “We of course wanted to give you money, and you both were very, very specific. You said you don't want money, you don't want money at all, so you're not getting any money.”

Speculation about Campos’ whereabouts had begun after he mysteriously left a Las Vegas hotel room Thursday where he was preparing for televised interviews on the Sean Hannity show on Fox, as well as news shows on CNN, CBS, ABC and NBC. No interviews took place.

David Hickey, president of the Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America union that represents the security guards at Mandalay Bay, told The Times that he was attending a meeting with MGM representatives in one room of the suite as Campos waited with a security guard — hired by MGM — and another union member in the living room.

When the meeting ended about 2 p.m., Hickey said Campos no longer was in the room.

“When I got in touch with the other union member, I was told Campos was taken to the Quick Care” health clinic, Hickey said.

Hickey didn’t hear from the guard afterward and announced to a scrum of reporters that night that Campos had canceled interviews. Campos didn’t contact his union in the days after he walked away.

The company that owns the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino issued a statement Tuesday that implied it was in touch with Campos as questions mounted over the Las Vegas casino’s response to the mass shooting.

“Jesus Campos wants to tell his story at a time and place of his choosing,” Debra DeShong, a spokeswoman for MGM Resorts International, said in a statement after the Los Angeles Times requested an interview with him. “He’s asked that everyone respect his request for privacy. We could not be more proud of Jesus.”

Las Vegas police initially stated that Paddock shot Campos through the door of his hotel suite on the 32nd floor midway through his attack on the concert, essentially crediting Campos with turning Paddock’s attention away from the Route 91 Harvest country music festival across the street.

But police later said that Campos was shot six minutes before the attack began, and then officials changed their story again, stating that Campos was shot moments before Paddock began his attack on the concert.

Police and casino officials have said that Campos promptly reported the gunman to hotel security and that police officers and armed security responded immediately to the 32nd floor, where Paddock had a suite.

But the first officers to get to the floor arrived 12 minutes after Paddock had launched his assault on the crowd — and two minutes after he had stopped shooting — raising questions about how quickly the hotel had informed officers on the scene about Campos’ report.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:36 am

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:43 am

She's a comedian, allegedly, so I thought it was a joke. No, she actually owns slot machines in Vegas.

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby elfismiles » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:52 pm

Burnt Hill » 14 Oct 2017 20:24 wrote:Hey 82_28 elfismiles posted the Kymberley Suchomel story last page also.

I have to wonder what type of pituitary tumor it was and her prognosis.

Also she gives a pretty good description of how it would be if someone were shooting from above and away - bullet would be flying all around giving the impression they were coming from different sources.
She never does describe an actual shooter though, does she? Just changing directions based on where she thought the bullets were coming from.

Also, she probably isn't the only person the had the impression of multiple shooters.
And we already know what she had to say. She posted it.
Why would she be a target? Killing her brings more attention to her story.


Vegas Survivor Who Died Suddenly Had Planned Group To Expose Cover-Up
Kymberley Suchomel believed media was covering up multiple shooters
Adan Salazar | Infowars.com - October 17, 2017

A woman who died days after surviving the ill-fated October 1 country music festival in Las Vegas wanted to organize a survivor’s group in order to flesh out the strange event, Facebook conversations reveal.

Kymberley Suchomel, 28, died suddenly on October 9 at her Apple Valley, California, residence five days after posting her version of events to Facebook.
Image credit: Julie Norton / vvdailypress.com

In the days following the massacre, friends reached out to Suchomel over a October 4 post in which she described someone setting off “fire crackers” near the venue, and detailed being chased by numerous people, concluding at one point “There was more than one gun firing. 100% more than one.”

One longtime friend of Suchomel’s, who asked to remain anonymous, provided Infowars with screenshots of a conversation he’d had with her, in which she indicated planning to “organize a group of survivors” in order “to piece things together.”

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“You can share my comment for sure. And you can leave my name,” Suchomel says in a Facebook message to her friend. “I’m trying to organize a group of survivors so if anyone wants to contact me they can. Because this fucked up shit doesn’t make sense and we are trying to piece things together.”

“The media can suck it. They have no idea what went down!” she added.

Suchomel goes on to tell her friend, who told Infowars he’d known her for years, that she was compiling a “second by second story” detailing her experience, and pinpoints on an image where she’d been seated with her friends.

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Important to note is that much of Suchomel’s lengthy account – now deleted from Facebook, but available here – appears to contradict the lone wolf shooter narrative provided to the public from law enforcement.

Another friend of Suchomel who organized a fundraiser to help pay for funeral expenses says her family made the decision to deactivate Kymberley’s Facebook account due to “an overwhelming amount of messages” from conspiracy theorists claiming her friend was “murdered.”

“They believe she passed away from a grand mahl seizure but the autopsy report has not been finalized,” Suchomel’s friend wrote on Facebook Sunday.

In comments to the Victorville Daily Press, Suchomel’s grandmother, Julie Norton, told a reporter she believed “Suchomel may have died in her sleep after her husband, Mike, left for work at 4:30 a.m.”

“Kymberley had epilepsy and she’s always been prone to seizures — she told her friend that she recently had three focal seizures,” Norton told reporter Rene Ray De La Cruz, who personally knew Suchomel. “I believe the stress from the shooting took her life.”

Before she met her untimely demise, Kymberley had told De La Cruz she was consumed with fear by the gruesome events she’d witnessed.

“My heart starts racing when I hear loud noises,” Kymberley stated. “I’m afraid because my heart keeping pounding and it won’t stop.”

De La Cruz also reports Suchomel had been taking medication to treat a pituitary tumor.

Kymberley was also a charity organizer in California and had also created the High Desert Phoenix Foundation, which helps citizens of the region pay for costs associated with tragedies.

Kymberley is survived by her daughter Scarlett, 3, and her husband Michael. A YouCaring fundraiser dedicated to her can be found here.

Read Kymberley’s Facebook post from October 4-5:
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Update: Revision adds Suchomel was treating pituitary tumor.


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https://www.infowars.com/woman-who-died ... ors-group/


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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:44 pm

MacCruiskeen » 18 Oct 2017 15:43 wrote:She's a comedian, allegedly, so I thought it was a joke. No, she actually owns slot machines in Vegas.

Ellen's Slot Machines in Vegas


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfqI-HO6Qzk#

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Of course, the Aria they are filming from is part of MGM resorts. All MGM resorts have Ellen slot machines. So Ellen makes a little money every time you lose!
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby norton ash » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:32 pm

You mean that lovely Ellen actually exploits the stupid, desperate, and addicted? How much more money do you need, Ellen...?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:40 pm

I wonder how much Ellen helps/profits with their laundry as other lowlife Las Vegas mobsters do

How a Chinese Company Laundered Millions Using Las Vegas Slot Machines
https://www.theatlantic.com/china/archi ... es/274126/

FinCEN Fines Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort $10 Million for Significant and Long Standing Anti-Money Laundering Violations
https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releas ... t-and-long

Caesars Palace fined $9.5M for lax money laundering scrutiny
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/caesars ... /230744023

Las Vegas Sands resolves laundering case with $47 million deal
http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/27/news/co ... index.html

Sheldon Adelson’s Sands Casino to pay $47 million fine for failing to report deposits from alleged drug trafficker
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1439489

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:53 pm

Was Las Vegas shooter using gambling to launder money? A lot points in that direction


Published: Sat, October 14, 2017 @ 12:00 a.m.
By Ann Coulter

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Now the media are just taunting us with their tall tales about Stephen Paddock, the alleged Las Vegas shooter. Reputedly serious news organizations are claiming that he made a living playing video poker. That’s like claiming someone made a living smoking crack.

The media are either doing PR for the gambling industry or they don’t want anyone considering the possibility that Paddock was using gambling to launder money.

NBC News reports, with a straight face: “Las Vegas gunman earned millions as a gambler.” A Los Angeles Times article is headlined, “In the solitary world of video poker, Stephen Paddock knew how to win.” The story says that Paddock’s gambling “was at least a steady income over a period of years.”

I don’t know all the ins and outs of Paddock’s life, but that’s a lie.

Billionaire owners

How do reporters imagine casino owners make a living? Any ideas on how all those glorious lobbies, lights, pools and fountains are paid for? How do they think Sheldon Adelson and Steve Wynn became billionaires if gambling is a winning proposition for people like Paddock – and therefore, by definition, a losing proposition for the casinos?

The media think about money the way Democrats do. They have absolutely no conception of where it originates. Those casino owners sure are generous! reporters think to themselves.

Economist Thomas Sowell is always ridiculing journalists for not understanding basic economics. It turns out, they don’t understand the spreadsheet of a lemonade stand.

The New York Times explained that the “top” video poker machines pay out 99.17 percent. That’s great that Paddock was only losing cents on the dollar (if true), but it’s still losing. The Times quickly explained that he could have more than made up his losses with all the “comps” – the free rooms, meals and “50-year-old port that costs $500 a glass,” as his brother Eric said.

Gamblers who are beating the house are not given $500 glasses of port. Refer to the profit/loss spreadsheet. And yet, according to his brother, Paddock was treated like royalty by the casinos. Which means he was losing.

Apart from outright theft, the only way to have an advantage over the casino is by card-counting. That’s not cheating, and it doesn’t guarantee a win. It merely allows the gambler to make a more educated guess as each card is played, thereby tilting the odds ever so slightly in his favor. Still, if the casinos suspect a customer is counting cards, he will be promptly escorted off the premises.

Net loser

And counting cards only helps with blackjack. Paddock’s game of choice was video poker. That’s a computer! It’s programmed to ensure the house wins. Not all the time, but at least often enough to make casino owners multibillionaires. Anyone who plays video poker over an extended period of time will absolutely, 100 percent, by basic logic, end up a net loser.

So why are the media insistent that Paddock was getting rich by playing video poker?

I don’t know what happened – and, apparently, neither do the cops – but it’s kind of odd that we keep being told things that aren’t true about the Las Vegas massacre, from the basic timeline to this weird insistence that Paddock made a good living at gambling.

The most likely explanation is that the reporters and investigators are incompetent nitwits. But the changing facts from law enforcement and preposterous lies from the press aren’t doing a lot to tamp down alternative theories of the crime.

Among the questions not being asked by our wildly incurious media:

Why would Paddock unload 200 rounds into the hallway at a security guard who was checking on someone else’s room before beginning his massacre?

How can it possibly take eight days to figure out when the alleged shooter checked into the hotel?

Why was Paddock wearing gloves if he was about to commit suicide?

Have any other solitary mass shooters ever had girlfriends?

If Paddock wasn’t making money on video poker – and he wasn’t – why would he be cycling millions of dollars through a casino, turning every dollar into, at best, 99 cents?

Maybe Paddock enjoyed video poker. But if the allegedly serious media are going to keep telling us he was making a living doing it, they’re just begging us to say that losing a percent or two on millions of dollars doesn’t make sense as an investment strategy, but it does make sense as a money laundering operation.

Illegal gun sales

And the probable illicit business requiring money to be laundered that leaps out at us in Paddock’s case is illegal gun sales. If true, it would not only explain the arsenal in his hotel room, but also raises the possibility of either an accomplice or different perpetrator altogether.

If this were a movie script, a terrorist would go to Paddock’s room on the pretense of buying guns, kill Paddock, commit the massacre, put his gunshot residue-covered gloves on Paddock’s dead hands and slip out of the room when the coast was clear.

According to the all-new timeline given by the Las Vegas police – pending a third revision – this is at least possible. The hallway was empty, except for a bleeding security guard down by the elevators, for at least two minutes after the shooting stopped. The stairwell was clear for more than half an hour. It also explains the gloves.

There’s no evidence for any of this, but on the other hand, there’s no evidence for the version the media are giving us. At least the movie script version doesn’t require us to pretend that Paddock was making “millions” from video poker.


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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:37 pm

Campos actually said without prompting that he did not call in his shooting on his radio to "keep the lines clear". He wanted to keep the lines clear? So hotel security could better respond to a spray of 200 bullets nobody else supposedly knew about at the time?

Ellen, of course, followed this up with a hard hitting giggle.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:17 pm

Yeah, not to get all Crisis Actor Jones, but that dude gained an impressive amount of weight in that "quick clinic." I was struck by the guy in the footage on Ellen not, uh...not looking much like ol' boy in the photos we have.

This cover story continues to get more visibly ragged, this has been a remarkable, high-visibility mess.

Looks like the Deep State is losing coordination and expertise at a rapid clip.
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Postby JackRiddler » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:04 pm

What are the dates and sources on these photos?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Brentos » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:07 pm

Re-reading Kymberley Suchomel's testimony, it's eerily similar to all the other witness videos/testimonies from survivors who were at the concert, on this thread at least.
i. The initial reports of fireworks or sounding like fireworks, which arguably are the initial shots from a different sounding gun, before the rapid gun fire.
ii. Being absolutely positive of being pursued on the ground by one or more shooters. The wife in the loomer video and her husband talked about continually moving to find more cover as they heard the gunshots coming nearer to them, like Gio and the rest. Only Gio and his gf say they saw a shooter on the ground, but at NYNY. These witnesses also confirming that everyone they knew at the concert felt the same way.
iii. Besides Bellagio & Planet Hollywood panics that look to be the same incident (women in PH is adamant there was gunfire) , NYNY had panic (possibly connected to shooter w. muzzle flash that Gio allegedly saw?), Tropicana panic (Gio), now Kymberley said that people we running out of hooters panicking, and believed that someone armed was in there.

There were no reported casualties anywhere in iii. Police scanners called these "diversions", not sure what that means.Its quite possible that they were panicked cops, or civilians carrying weapons, or just noises that sound like gunshots. This seems like the most logical conclusion. But were diversionary shots done on purpose? To create chaos and split up responders?

For, ii. Ed Opperman suggests that the mic & PA system was still on, and that picked up on the gunfire to create audio anomalies. Perhaps this is a fair explanation of the feeling that people heard gunfire chasing them? That question of trustworthiness of eyewitness comes into question. idk.

Then there is Hopsicker's piece about Paddock, where he confirms his suspicions of who Paddock might of been, echoing others. The story that he made his money with video poker being great evidence that there is a (albeit shoddy) cover story at work. That is what is interesting, is the obvious spookiness of Paddock, combined with very adamant witnesses who cannot believe that it was all Paddock, based their own experience, and on the lack of evidence provided so far by authorities. fwiw, The women in PH casino video, said that a staff member at PH casino told her that their cousin was in security at the concert, and that the cousin said that there was a shooter in the crowd.

As stated up-thread , a real investigation on bullet angles etc... may come out if there are lawsuits.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Brentos » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:23 pm

Also, to be honest, witness testimonies in this thread that I am referring to were cherry picked. It would be interesting to see eye witness testimonies of people that contradict the ones on this thread, or have people that clearly realized it was coming from Paddock's location. I do remember a photo of a guy giving the middle finger upwards (presumably to Paddock?).
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