Niger another nameless war

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Niger another nameless war

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:41 pm

Can anyone articulate their purpose?


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Niger, America’s forgotten soldiers and another nameless war

This is the first time most Americans have heard of the place. That’s the worst part.

Niger: Few can locate it on a map; fewer can pronounce (Nee-Zher) it. Almost no one realizes the U.S. military has troops there. Can anyone articulate their purpose?

Regardless, four soldiers died in the former French colony on Wednesday, Oct. 4, victims, it appears, of an ambush. The suspected perpetrators: Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) — how many Americans even recognize that acronym?


It still stings — years after my last combat tour — when I watch the quick, televised announcement of U.S. Army troop deaths, crunched between long segments on the latest White House palace intrigue (did he or didn’t he call the president a “moron?”) and exhausting reports about Mueller’s ongoing search for evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. But these were American soldiers, you know, the ones our society sensationally worships. And they are dead. Killed — ostensibly — in the service of the citizenry in a faraway land few even knew they were in.
What does it say about a society, when such deaths barely raise an eyebrow? Four dead, killed in another country we are not at war with, by a group only tangentially covered by the long-outdated Authorization to Utilize Military Force, the vague 2001 congressional approval to attack those who “planned, authorized, or committed” the 9/11 attacks; AQIM wasn’t even designated a terror organization until 2002.

This much is certain: These troopers were casualties of perpetual war, imperial overstretch, and American apathy. More’s the pity.


Maybe AQIM really is a threat to the region or, more relevantly, to our homeland. Maybe military advisors, supplies or support are prudent. Maybe. Only no one discusses that.

Nonetheless, the surprise deaths of American troops raises far more questions than answers, and, at least, deserves a public debate. Of course, the people’s representatives in the House and Senate will likely remain silent; congressional cowardice, executive overreach — they’re the tangled, unheralded stories of the 21st century. The combination may just bring down what’s left of the republic.

For starters, here are just a few questions a citizen (or, dare I say, a strategist) might ask:

Who, or what, authorized troops to deploy to this desolate stretch of desert?
To what extent is AQIM a threat to our homeland? To the region?
Is military force appropriate or capable of influencing the security situation?
Why will it work in Niger, when similar operations in Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan have such a checkered record?
And, even if it might work, is the “juice worth the squeeze?” In other words, are the potential benefits worth the prospective cost, in blood and treasure?
Now, while you ruminate over those simple if thorny questions, consider a few complicating factors:

Previous U.S. interventions in North Africa, i.e. Libya, actually destabilized the region and — in a classic case of blowback — worsened the Islamist threat in Mali and Niger. Who’s to say that won’t happen again?
U.S. Africa Command’s (AFRICOM) mission statement is full of the military’s typically inflated, task-oriented rhetoric: “disrupt and neutralize transnational threats,” “prevent and mitigate conflict,” “build African partner defense capability,” “promote regional security, stability, and prosperity.” It might be difficult for small U.S. advisory teams to achieve anything of the sort while the military is concurrently committed to counterterrorism in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Somalia, as well as deterrence in Eastern Europe and South Korea.
Even America’s formidable military possesses a finite number of Special Forces (SF). With SF teams deployed to 70 percent of the world’s countries in 2017, that’s hardly a sustainable operational tempo; soldiers spread thin are soldiers at risk.
In the past, the stability, credibility and competence of partner governments have proved vital to achievement (or not) of U.S. regional goals. America’s futile battle against endemic Afghan corruption is only the most recent example. Niger, though progressing, is only just recovering from a military coup and possesses a sketchy human-rights record.
This August, China opened its first military base on the African continent, in Djibouti. China is also Africa’s largest trading partner, exploiting the region’s vast natural resources. Perhaps military power represents America’s last lever of influence on a continent increasingly oriented eastward; are U.S. operations there as much about political and economic hegemony as “counterterrorism?”
None of this is, in itself, nefarious. However, that Americans are barely considering these dynamics is more than a little troubling.

Legislative indifference is just as grim. Americans’ elected bodies owe it to deployed — and dead — soldiers to grapple with at least some of these issues. And if the U.S. cannot actually balance ends and means in Africa, or demonstrate a conflict’s connection to a vital national interest, then it is incumbent on Congress to limit or restrict future operations.

In the 1980s, in what now seems a parallel universe, the legislative branch asserted itself – in what became known as the Boland Amendment — to prohibit “boots on the ground” in Nicaragua’s complex, less-than-vital civil war. Sure, President Reagan unlawfully ducked the law, but at least Congress tried, and some officials were held accountable.

Today, most congressmen wouldn’t dare limit presidential primacy. Just last month, Senator Rand Paul made a half-hearted (though admirable) effort, and managed only 36 votes.

Undoubtedly, critics will chastise my lack of support — especially as a serving Army officer — for the “mission” or the “troops,” two nebulous concepts that have become increasingly but dangerously coupled in the public consciousness. As for my concerns about secrecy, some will assert opacity is an operational necessity in counterterrorism. Perhaps.


Nonetheless, 16 years of perpetual, indecisive war across several continents, to say nothing of mass surveillance, torture regimes and the false pretense of the Iraqi invasion, have made this soldier skeptical of secrecy’s slippery slope.

War and peace are matters too grave to consign solely to generals, presidents, or intelligence agencies. The potential, and all too pervasive, deaths of American service members demand a public hearing. Let the populace, and Congress, deliberate, vote and authorize these dangerous, ubiquitous troop deployments. The Constitution, the Republic and some lives depend on it.

But don’t count on it: Trump will tweet, citizens will forget and Congress will cower. It’s the new American way.http://thehill.com/opinion/national-sec ... meless-war


McCain: Administration not being up front about Niger attack

(CNN)Sen. John McCain argued Wednesday that the Trump administration is not being forthcoming about the attack in Niger that left four US soldiers dead and two wounded.

Asked if he thinks Congress should launch an investigation into the attack, the chairman of the Senate armed services committee told reporters that first he would like to get the information that his panel "deserves and needs."

"Then you decide whether a quote investigation is needed or not," he said.

Pressed further on whether the administration was being up front about the ISIS-affiliated attack, McCain answered bluntly: "No."

Private contractor used to evacuate US forces in Niger ambush

The Arizona Republican did not go into detail about what kind of information he was looking for, saying only that he was interested in "all the specifics."

"That's why we're called the Senate armed services committee. It's because we have oversight of our military," he said. "So we deserve to have all the information."

The Defense Department is conducting an initial review of the deadly attack, searching for precise answers as to how 50 ISIS-affiliated fighters were able to ambush the group of soldiers two weeks ago.

The comprehensive investigation of the timeline has been ordered by US Africa Command and includes all the military branches and elements of US intelligence agencies that were involved in the mission. Team members who were on the ground are being interviewed about what happened as well as preparations for the mission.
Trump, Dem congresswoman feud over his remarks to widow of fallen soldier
White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders was asked in the press briefing Wednesday whether President Donald Trump was satisfied with he information he has received about the mission and ambush.
"I believe they're still looking into the details of that," Sanders replied. "But I don't think that the President can ever be satisfied when there's loss of life from men and women in uniform."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/18/politics/ ... index.html



Two weeks later, Trump still hasn't addressed US deaths in Niger

Steve Benen10/18/17 12:42 PM

Trump ducks failure to address Green Beret deaths with Obama lie

On Oct. 4, exactly two weeks ago, four American soldiers were killed in an ambush in northwestern Africa. Donald Trump, who routinely tweets a series of provocative thoughts in response to deadly terrorism said nothing. As the remains of the U.S. Special Forces soldiers started to return home, Trump again said nothing, golfing as the caskets arrived at Dover Air Force.
As the Washington Post reported today, the president has had plenty to say about a wide range of topics since the deadly attack in Niger – he’s apparently upset with protesting athletes, Democrats, the mayor or San Juan, and major American news organizations – but Trump has remained completely silent on the deadliest attack on U.S. military forces since he took office.

That seemed to change on Monday, when a reporter asked about his reticence, but even then, Trump’s answer covered a lot of ground – he’s impressed with his communications with family members of the fallen, and he’s taken some cheap and misleading shots at Barack Obama – without even trying to address the underlying question:

Why did these four Americans die?

It’s not that the other questions are unimportant. When Trump lies about the records of his predecessors, it matters. When the president says he calls each of the families of those killed in action, but fails to follow through, it matters. When he clumsily tries and fails to bring comfort to those who are grieving, it matters. When Trump seems to exploit the memory of his chief of staff’s son, who died in Afghanistan, for petty political purposes, it matters.

But we’re still left with the fact that the president, as The Atlantic’s David Graham noted today, has “pushed the conversation even further away from the actual question of the fallen soldiers.”


And there’s no reason anyone should consider that acceptable. How did ISIS-affiliated fighters ambush U.S. Special Forces in an area considered to be low-risk? Why did it take so long for help to arrive? Why did it take nearly two days to recover the body of one of the four Americans killed?

And why is Donald Trump willing to talk about practically every subject except this one?

Two weeks later, the commander in chief hasn’t even acknowledged what happened. The questions have been ignored and/or buried by a series of related distractions.

As Rachel noted on the show this week, there are sometimes legitimate reasons why U.S. officials have to remain silent on combat deaths, at least temporarily. But the Pentagon has publicly commented on the deadly violence in Niger, which necessarily means there’s no prohibition on discussing the attack.

Trump, for reasons that are not yet clear, simply doesn’t want to. I’ll look forward to the White House explaining why.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... aths-niger


Senators demand info on deadly Niger ambush
BY REBECCA KHEEL - 10/17/17 08:11 PM EDT 284

Nearly two weeks after four Green Berets were killed in an ambush, top senators are demanding the Trump administration provide Congress with more information on the first deadly attack on U.S. troops in Niger.

On Tuesday, the Republican and Democratic leaders of the Senate Armed Services Committee both said the Trump administration has not provided them with enough information on the attack.

Committee Chairman John McCain (R-Ariz.) even went so far as to say the Obama administration — which he repeatedly slammed as weak on defense — was better at working with him.

Asked by The Hill whether the administration has been forthcoming with information on Niger, McCain said “no.”
“I had a better working relationship, as far as information back and forth, with [President Obama’s Defense secretary] Ash Carter than I do with an old friend of 20 years,” McCain said.

Asked whether the “old friend” was Defense Secretary James Mattis, McCain said “yes,” though he said the statement also extends to Trump’s national security adviser, H.R. McMaster.

“I think they had this idea that once Trump won that we are a unicameral government,” McCain said.

At issue is an Oct. 4 attack on a joint patrol of about a dozen U.S. soldiers and 40 Nigerien troops. The patrol was ambushed by what the Pentagon has described as self-radicalized, Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS)-affiliated militants, killing the four Green Berets and injuring two others.

It’s the first time U.S. troops have been killed as part of the counterterrorism mission in the northwestern African country, which has received little public attention. The United States has about 800 troops and a drone base in Niger, with another 200 troops elsewhere in the Chad Basin.

The Pentagon has said the attack happened in an area where multiple patrols had gone before without incident. French air support had to be called in to help.

The circumstances have prompted questions about whether the United States provided adequate force protection for its own troops, whether troops were prepared enough for the attack and whether the rescue response was fast enough.

Mattis has defended the response, but said the Pentagon is reviewing it to see what lessons can be learned.

“We will look at this and say, was there something we have to adapt to now?” Mattis told reporters last week. “We’re not complacent. We’re going to be better.”

Meanwhile, McCain has been furious for months at what he sees as a lack of communication from the administration. He has pledged to block Defense Department nominees until the administration provides more information on the strategies in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.

McCain told reporters the Pentagon was expected to provide information he’s asked for later Tuesday afternoon.

“We’ve been waiting for weeks and weeks,” he said. “We will not sit by without having a complete understanding of what’s going on.”

Asked whether he expected Tuesday’s information to include more on Niger, McCain said, “We’ll find out.”

McCain’s comments echoed those of his committee’s top Democrat, Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.).

“I think the administration has to be more clear about our role in Niger and our role in other areas in Africa and other parts of the globe,” Reed said Tuesday on CNN. “They have to connect it to a strategy. They should do that. I think that the inattention to this issue is not acceptable.”

Reed also alluded to the lack of information the day before, noting to reporters that his knowledge of the Niger attack did not come from an official briefing.

“The operation in Niger from what I know, and it’s not from an official briefing, was unexpected,” Reed said at a press conference. “It appears that the ISIS elements that were there had good intelligence of our operations, conducted a very sophisticated ambush of our forces. … The operation I think has caused us to begin to re-examine force protection in Niger and other places, and also our ability to respond proactively to ISIS elements in that part of Africa.”

The fact that four Americans were killed and that the attack took place in Africa has led to some comparisons to the response to the 2012 Benghazi attack, which prompted multiple congressional investigations.

Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.), a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, told CNN on Tuesday that after more facts are gathered, “you may very well see the same type of a demand for a review.”

For now, though, Rounds said he foresees at least some congressional oversight.

“Any time you have a loss of life, any time you’re involved in an incident in which we lose young men, we lose young women, Congress has an interest in seeing what happened, why, where, were they in the right place, was there something that we should have done differently,” he said. “If we can learn from this, then we should be doing that.”
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/35592 ... ger-ambush



Russia to sign military cooperation deal with Niger

Military & Defense August 10, 13:33 UTC+3
Under the draft agreement, Russia and Niger will interact in the war on terror, exchange information on military and political issues and the issues of strengthening international security
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MOSCOW, August 10. /TASS/. Russia plans to sign a military cooperation deal with the Republic of Niger in West Africa, including interaction in the war on terror and measures to strengthen international security, according to a Russian government resolution published on the government’s legal information web portal on Thursday.
Under the document, the Russian government had made a decision "to approve a draft military cooperation agreement between the government of the Russian Federation and the government of the Republic of Niger submitted by the Defense Ministry and approved by the Foreign Ministry of Russia and other departments concerned."

The document instructs the Russian Defense Ministry to hold negotiations with the Nigerien side and, upon agreeing, sign the relevant deal. The Defense Ministry is authorized to make amendments to the draft document, if these alterations are not of fundamental nature.
Under the draft agreement, the sides will interact in the war on terror, exchange information on military and political issues and the issues of strengthening international security.
Moscow and Niamey will also develop relations in the area of joint troop training, in the sphere of military education, military medicine and other fields.
Russia and Niger intend to exchange the experience of peacekeeping missions and interaction in peacekeeping operations under the UN aegis.


http://tass.com/defense/959862


The real reason Donald Trump wouldn’t acknowledge U.S. soldiers killed in Niger: it was a Russian military op
Bill Palmer
Updated: 10:06 pm EDT Wed Oct 18, 2017
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Donald Trump has spent the past two weeks doing his best to avoid addressing the four U.S. soldiers who died in Niger on October 4th. The headlines up to now have focused on Trump’s unwillingless to call the families of those soldiers or even publicly acknowledge their deaths. The real scandal, as it turns out, is why he’s been dodging it: he’s afraid to call any attention to the U.S. military action in Niger, because it was actually a Russian military op.


Follow the timeline: on August 10th, the governments of Niger and Russia signed a military cooperation deal. The press release from Russian news agency TASS described it as being a vaguely defined anti-terrorism partnership (link), but in real world terms, the deal was almost certainly about the exploding oil production in Niger. It’s roughly the same kind of arrangement which Russia has long had with the Syrian government: Russia provides military protection in order to help keep the current regime in power, and in return, the regime sells cheap oil back to Russia. Just seven weeks after the deal was signed, as Russia was moving in to set up shop in Niger, four U.S. soldiers were suddenly killed there.


Even setting aside Donald Trump’s personal allegiance to Russian President Vladimir Putin, from a purely tactical standpoint, there is zero chance that the United States would have been running its own military op inside Niger while Russia was moving in to set up shop. The only logically possible explanation is that the U.S. secretly sent troops to help the Russian military with its efforts in Niger. In other words, those four U.S. soldiers were participating in some kind of Russian military op – and it only became public once they died.


Rachel Maddow reported on-air on Wednesday night that Donald Trump nixed a prepared statement mourning the loss of the four U.S. soldiers. We also know that Trump didn’t call the families of those four soldiers until the media called him out on it. It’s become clear that Trump and his regime really didn’t want the public or the media to focus on the military op in Niger – which we know had to have been a Russian op – hence he refused to even mention it or make any calls. Trump got four U.S. soldiers killed by lending out the U.S. military to Vladimir Putin, and now he’s desperate to keep the details from coming out. We all know why.
http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/the ... y-op/5584/
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Re: Niger another nameless war

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:19 pm

ooopsy should not have put Chad on that Muslim ban list


they just were not too happy about it ....we are taking our troops and going home

BOOM!


btw Chad not too happy with Rex either


Can anyone articulate their purpose?


Pentagon investigating troubling questions after deadly Niger ambush

W.J. Hennigan and Brian Bennett
Nigerien soldiers attend a class as part of an international mission in Diffa, Niger.
Defense Secretary James N. Mattis, troubled by a lack of information two weeks after an ambush on a special operations patrol in Niger left four U.S. soldiers dead, is demanding a timeline of what is known about the attack, as a team of investigators sent to West Africa begins its work.

The growing list of unanswered questions and inability to construct a precise account of the Oct. 4 incident have exacerbated a public relations nightmare for the White House, which is embroiled in controversy over President Trump’s belated and seemingly clumsy response this week to console grieving military families.

“We need to find out what happened and why,” White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly, whose son was killed in Afghanistan in 2010, told reporters at the White House on Thursday.

At the Pentagon, Mattis suggested to reporters that he would say little pending results of the investigation. “We at the Department of Defense like to know what we’re talking about before we talk," he said. "And so we don't have all the accurate information yet. We will release it as rapidly as we get it."

The attack, apparently carried out by militants affiliated with Islamic State, was the deadliest since Trump took office, yet the U.S. military’s Africa Command still does not have a clear “story board” of facts that commanders usually gather swiftly after deadly incidents. That has senior Pentagon officials and lawmakers suggesting incompetence.

The questions arising from the incident, particularly about the availability of additional military support to the patrol, echo those raised in the aftermath of the 2012 Benghazi attack in Libya, which resulted in the deaths of four people: U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, foreign service information officer Sean Smith, and CIA contractors Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said on Thursday that getting to the bottom of what happened may require subpoenas.

“That's why we're called the Senate Armed Services Committee,” he said. “It's because we have oversight of our military. So we deserve to have all the information."

Trump’s national security advisor, H.R. McMaster, at an event hosted by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a Washington-based think tank, said the Pentagon will have “authoritative, definitive answers” to questions such as whether an intelligence failure contributed to the ambush and why the body of one soldier initially was left behind.

But the investigation will take time, he said. “There is a period of time where there is always ambiguity here in Washington to what is going on halfway down the world,” McMaster said, adding that there are no military missions that are “risk free.”

A team of investigators, led by a one-star general, is working to clear up the confusion of what occurred before, during and after the mission. For instance, Sgt. La David T. Johnson, 25, of Miami Gardens, Fla., was initially unaccounted for and his body wasn't found until after an intense two-day search, and then by Nigerien villagers.

Also killed were Staff Sgt. Bryan C. Black, 35, of Puyallup, Wash.; Staff Sgt. Jeremiah W. Johnson, 39, of Springboro, Ohio; and Staff Sgt. Dustin M. Wright, 29, of Lyons, Ga.

For months before the ambush, the U.S. military had requested more drones or other surveillance aircraft in Niger and additional military medical support, but those requests met resistance from the U.S. ambassador to the country, who was reluctant to increase the American presence in the country, according to a U.S. official briefed on the attack.

The Special Forces Operational Detachment Alpha, otherwise known as an “A-Team,” increasingly had been operating in remote areas far from command support, the official said. Green Beret-led patrols had visited the area along the Mali-Niger border 29 times in the last six months. Islamic State and Al Qaeda operate there, exploiting divisions within local tribal forces in the region.

U.S. military officials also are looking into the possibility that French forces were attacked in the same area in previous days, but that information may not have been relayed to the A-Team.

More details about the deadly firefight are coming to light as the Army moves forward with its formal investigation. The military now considers the ambush to have been a well-planned and coordinated series of two successive attacks on the Special Forces A-Team attached to Nigerien forces.

The A-Team had been able to fend off the first ambush but was attacked again while trying to retreat deeper into Niger, the official said.

It was in the chaos of the second attack that the unit may have lost track of Johnson and initially members were unable to confirm he had been killed in the assault. French attack helicopters and jets responded during the second ambush, successfully killing and pushing away the gunmen, allowing the remaining members of the U.S. and Nigerien force to escape.

Without the French air response, the military is concerned the entire unit could have been killed. Two American soldiers were wounded, and four Nigerien soldiers were also killed in the attack, and eight wounded.

The unit was driving in light unarmored vehicles that are sometimes preferred by Special Forces units for maneuverability and speed. Given the sophistication of the attack, U.S. military officials believe Islamic State may have played a role in helping plan the attack.

Gen. Thomas Waldhauser, commander of U.S. Africa Command, documented to Congress in March his forces’ lack of needed resources on the continent. He said about 20% to 30% of requirements for “intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance” flights were being met, and complained there weren’t enough military helicopters to help locate missing, wounded, or killed service members.

“For personnel recovery, Africa Command relies heavily on contract search and rescue assets due to lack of dedicated assets to support operations,” Waldhauser said. “Furthermore, African partners lack the capability and capacity to assist with personnel recovery missions.”
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Re: Niger another nameless war

Postby PufPuf93 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:42 pm

Here is a CNN article about when, what and why the USA military is in Niger.

There is a much larger French military presence, 5000 troops vs 800 USA troops.

POTUS Obama introduced troops to Niger in 2013.

The USA is constructing a $100 million air base for drone war fare.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/18/politics/ ... index.html

I could not get the article to copy; there is also video and other links at the CNN page.
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Postby Spiro C. Thiery » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:12 am

US has drones and hundreds of troops in Niger. Here's why
By Faith Karimi, CNN Updated 1111 GMT (1911 HKT) October 18, 2017

(CNN)The killing of four American soldiers in Niger has drawn attention to the role of US troops in western Africa, where several terror networks roam freely.
In the region, the US has enemies all around. Niger shares a border with Mali, where an al Qaeda affiliate and other Islamist groups thrive in the vast desert. It also borders Libya, where ISIS and other extremists are regrouping, and Nigeria, where Boko Haram is a major challenge.

The Defense Department said 50 ISIS-affiliated fighters ambushed the US soldiers on October 4, leaving two others wounded. As a debate rages over President Donald Trump's phone calls to the soldiers' grieving families, here are things to know about the US operations in Niger:

American troops have been in Niger for years
The US has previously acknowledged it has troops there. But it's never gone into much detail. In 2013, the White House announced that then-President Barack Obama had deployed 100 military personnel to Niger. "This deployment will provide support for intelligence collection and will also facilitate intelligence sharing with French forces conducting operations in Mali, and with other partners in the region," Obama said in a letter to the House speaker. Since then, the number of US troops in the nation has risen to about 800. Small groups of US special operations forces advise local troops as they battle Boko Haram and al Qaeda.

Niger is crucial to the war on terror
US officials consider Niger strategically important in the war on terror. The nation, along with Chad and Mali, serves as a bridge between north and sub-Saharan Africa, and all three serve as significant transit routes for local al Qaeda and ISIS affiliates. The terror groups use these routes to generate revenue that helps them recruit, expand and export attacks, according to US officials.

ISIS also uses the transit routes to move fighters northward, where they gain easy access to Europe and the West. The terror group is also attempting to infiltrate the gold-mining industry in Niger so it can sell the element on the black market and finance terrorism, according to one official. Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb -- the terror group's local affiliate -- operates along the border between Mali and Niger, despite a French-led military counterterrorism operation that started three years ago. The US military says it largely plays a supporting role by providing intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance assets in support of French forces. "Niger is an important partner of ours, we have a deep relationship with them," said Lt. Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, the director of the Joint Staff. Staff Sgts. Bryan Black, Dustin Wright, Jeremiah Johnson, and Army Sgt. La David Johnson, were part of a team advising and assisting Niger forces when they were attacked. Five Nigerien soldiers also died in the ambush.

The US works with allies in the region
The US is not the only nation with a large presence in the region, McKenzie said. France has about 5,000 forces in the area, he said. The French operation also involves forces from Germany, Mali, Niger and other countries in the region. "We have about 1,000 forces distributed over the Chad Basin, most of them in Niger, but not all of them," McKenzie said last week at a news conference. The Chad Basin area includes the nations that border Lake Chad: Nigeria, Niger, Cameroon and Chad. Nigeria militant group Boko Haram, which has pledged allegiance to the Islamic State, is a threat to the nations in the Chad Basin.

The US has drones there, too
Earlier this year, the US military started moving its drone operation from Niger's capital, Niamey, to Agadez. Starting next year, the US Africa Command will launch its MQ9 Reapers -- "hunter/killer" drones with advanced intelligence gathering capabilities -- from an air base just outside the city. Agadez is more centrally located and will provide the US military with surveillance over a larger, more significant area.

The $100 million project is a massive undertaking and has included outreach to local communities. A US Army civil affairs team worked on several community efforts this year to build relationships and engage with the people whose lives will be affected by the drone operations. Africa Command described the construction of the Agadez airbase as "projected to be the biggest military labor troop project in US Air Force history." The US has been using a local airport while the base is under construction, according to US Africa Command.

CNN's Barbara Starr and Arwa Damon contributed to this report.
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Re: Niger another nameless war

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:31 am

EXCUSE ME THIS HAPPENED ON trump's WATCH.....

it was trump that pulled the plug on CHAD...

Why is the FBI investigating this?

When has the FBI ever investigated a military operation?


and gotta love trump relying on those blood sucking private contractors to clean up the mess

BLACKWATER ERIC PRINCE ????

The black guy isn't president any longer

the woman lost the election

the orange hair wonder is in charge now


CHAD withdrew their troops that were protecting our soldiers ...WHY....because of trump'

Why did trump put Chad on the ban list?

Why did trump insist that Chad give over a copy of their passport?

Why did trump wait 2 weeks to say anything about this?

Why did trump have to make this all about a grieving widow?

Why did trump have to try and change the subject?

trump only spoke about this when confronted by a reporter


General Kelly’s Paean to MAGA

By JOSH MARSHALL Published OCTOBER 20, 2017 12:42 AM

Lost in the storm and anguish over John Kelly’s attacks today was a sobering reality. The ideological and rhetorical spine of his remarks was a paean to MAGA. The old days were good. We had real religion. Things were right with women. There was no abortion. Honor was sacred and respected. Now it’s all crap because of people like Congresswoman Frederica Wilson (D), a showboater from Florida who transgressed our last sacred space.

Kelly’s words …

It stuns me that a member of Congress would have listened in on that conversation. Absolutely stuns me. And I thought at least that was sacred. You know, when I was a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country. Women were sacred, looked upon with great honor. That’s obviously not the case anymore as we see from recent cases. Life — the dignity of life — is sacred. That’s gone. Religion, that seems to be gone as well.

Gold Star families, I think that left in the convention over the summer. But I just thought — the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die on the battlefield, I just thought that that might be sacred.

That is the ideological spine. The rhetorical spine of his remarks was even clearer. Attacks on President Trump are attacks on the sanctity of heroism and patriotic sacrifice itself. Again, attacking President Trump is attacking the troops. It’s the same maneuver driving Trump’s war on the NFL. Kneeling during the national anthem to protest racism and police misconduct really isn’t about police brutality or racism it all. It’s spitting on the sacrifice of American soldiers.

How whipsawed must someone who was aghast at President Trump’s lying about former Presidents and failure even to note the deaths of these four soldiers be to learn that they were in fact dishonoring military service and sacrifice and failing to respect the President who, in Kelly’s words, “very bravely does make those calls.”

Underneath this logic is a belief which Kelly actually stated much more clearly than most are willing to do. We don’t just owe respect to people who serve in the military. They are actually better than us civilians.

Kelly’s words …

We don’t look down upon those of you who that haven’t served. In fact, in a way we’re a little bit sorry because you’ll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our service men and women do — not for any other reason than they love this country. So just think of that.

Kelly made a similar point when he refused to take questions from any reporter who was not either from a Gold Star family themselves or personally knew someone who was. You may not even deserve your civic freedoms, the right to talk, to ask question, unless you are near to military sacrifice.

Just what Kelly was saying wasn’t clear on first blush because he’s not a phony and a clown like President Trump – an unchurched libertine and draft dodger who wraps himself in traditionalism and military glory. If you’re eyes are open Trump is a joke against himself. Kelly is a bonafide general officer and combat veteran. When he speaks about military sacrifice we listen. We should. He speaks with some authority, from experience, unlike the President.

But his script turned out to be pure MAGA, pure Trumpism, in some ways more potent because it was wrapped in a lifetime of service but still no less odious.
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Donald Trump’s Niger scandal tied to Russian sanctions and Blackwater’s private army
Bill Palmer
Updated: 8:21 pm EDT Thu Oct 19, 2017
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Donald Trump’s Niger scandal is quickly becoming so explosive, it’s threatening to rival his Russia scandal when it comes to bringing down his presidency. As it turns out, however, the Niger scandal and the Russia scandal may in fact be part of the same criminal scandal. In addition, Trump’s Niger debacle is also tied to his disastrous Muslim ban, and a private army run by the brother of his Secretary of Education.


The Trump administration still refuses to say what the U.S. soldiers were doing in Niger when they were killed, but it’s not difficult to connect the dots. Just seven weeks earlier, the government of Niger had signed a military cooperation deal with the government of Russia. Although it was left unstated in the official press release (link), the deal was almost certainly rooted in Russia’s interest in the rapidly increasing oil production in Niger. It’s all but impossible that the U.S. would have been running a military op in Niger just weeks after the signing of that deal, unless it was part of a larger Russian op. But that’s just the beginning of the trouble for him.

Trump appears to be trying to cover up the op in Niger because it was tied to Russian oil interests. Not only would that make Trump look even more beholden to Russian President Vladimir Putin, it could also be in violation of the Russian sanctions bill that Trump grudgingly signed into office in August. There are also two other aspects of the Niger debacle that are personally scandalous to Trump.


Neighboring Chad pulled its own troops out of Niger in protest of Trump’s Muslim ban (link), which may have left U.S. troops more vulnerable and indirectly led to their deaths. In addition, the U.S. op in Niger relied at least partially on a private army. Blackwater founder Erik Prince, the brother of Trump’s Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, has recently encouraged Trump to use private armies in Africa (link). In other words, a family member of Trump’s own administration may have personally profited from the Niger military op.

In summary, Donald Trump ordered a military operation which appears to have been some kind of personal favor to Russia, which may have been in violation of U.S. law, which was made more treacherous as a result of his idiotic Muslim ban, and which may have put money in the pocket of his own cabinet member’s family – and which got four U.S. soldiers killed. No wonder Trump is bending over backward to try to cover this up. It has the makings of one of the biggest scandals in U.S. history.
http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/ni ... ssia/5602/






Donald Trump’s idiotic Muslim ban against Chad may have gotten the four U.S. soldiers killed in Niger
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Updated: 9:52 pm EDT Thu Oct 19, 2017
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Donald Trump insisted that his overtly racist Muslim Ban would somehow make the United States safer. Anyone with even a basic grasp of reality understood that it served no purpose whatsoever. Now it turns out the Muslim Ban has left the U.S. less safe, as it led to a diplomatic crisis that ended up putting U.S soldiers in danger in Niger – including the four who were killed this month.


After Trump revised his Muslim Ban on September 24th and added the nation of Chad to it for no apparent reason, Chad promptly announced that it would be pulling its own troops from Niger (link). Just ten days later, four U.S. soldiers died in Niger. Would they still be alive if the soldiers from Chad had still been there fighting alongside them? There’s no way to determine that based on publicly available information. But we do know that Trump’s Muslim Ban left U.S. soldiers in Niger without support troops from a key ally.


Remarkably, much of Trump’s Muslim Ban still hasn’t gone into effect. It’s so blatantly unconstitutional that portions of it have been preemptively struck down by various courts and judges. Yet Trump’s mere attempt at rolling out such a blatantly racist and profoundly divisive policy has caused so much harm to America’s relationships around the world, it’s served to isolate the U.S. military in its operations and leave U.S. troops more vulnerable around the world.


The role that the Muslim Ban played in the Niger scandal may be just one reason why Donald Trump is trying to desperately to cover it up. As we’ve documented, Trump appeared to have been doing Vladimir Putin a favor, in violation of U.S. sanctions against Russia, by ordering the U.S. military op in Niger at all (link). In other words, Trump’s Niger scandal may simply be an extension of his traitorous Russia scandal.
http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/nig ... -ban/5603/
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Postby Spiro C. Thiery » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:43 am

That's right. When Trump's predecessor committed the original troops for this project, it was for adults-in-the-room, sophisticated terrorist fighting and now Trump has turned it into something untoward. And his tweets are distracting from his culpability in this part of the US perpetual war machine, not the Russian angle at all. American governmental agencies would never engage in propaganda to encourage citizen rubes to dig deeper into the morass that would have it that one particular party or president is responsible for an otherwise sound undertaking.

seemslikeadream » 6 minutes ago wrote:EXCUSE ME THIS HAPPENED ON trump's WATCH.....

it was trump that pulled the plug on CHAD...

Why is the FBI investigating this?

When has the FBI ever investigated a military operation?



CHAD withdrew their troops that were protecting our soldiers ...WHY....because of trump


Donald Trump’s Niger scandal tied to Russian sanctions and Blackwater’s private army
Bill Palmer
Updated: 8:21 pm EDT Thu Oct 19, 2017
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Donald Trump’s Niger scandal is quickly becoming so explosive, it’s threatening to rival his Russia scandal when it comes to bringing down his presidency. As it turns out, however, the Niger scandal and the Russia scandal may in fact be part of the same criminal scandal. In addition, Trump’s Niger debacle is also tied to his disastrous Muslim ban, and a private army run by the brother of his Secretary of Education.


The Trump administration still refuses to say what the U.S. soldiers were doing in Niger when they were killed, but it’s not difficult to connect the dots. Just seven weeks earlier, the government of Niger had signed a military cooperation deal with the government of Russia. Although it was left unstated in the official press release (link), the deal was almost certainly rooted in Russia’s interest in the rapidly increasing oil production in Niger. It’s all but impossible that the U.S. would have been running a military op in Niger just weeks after the signing of that deal, unless it was part of a larger Russian op. But that’s just the beginning of the trouble for him.

Trump appears to be trying to cover up the op in Niger because it was tied to Russian oil interests. Not only would that make Trump look even more beholden to Russian President Vladimir Putin, it could also be in violation of the Russian sanctions bill that Trump grudgingly signed into office in August. There are also two other aspects of the Niger debacle that are personally scandalous to Trump.


Neighboring Chad pulled its own troops out of Niger in protest of Trump’s Muslim ban (link), which may have left U.S. troops more vulnerable and indirectly led to their deaths. In addition, the U.S. op in Niger relied at least partially on a private army. Blackwater founder Erik Prince, the brother of Trump’s Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, has recently encouraged Trump to use private armies in Africa (link). In other words, a family member of Trump’s own administration may have personally profited from the Niger military op.

In summary, Donald Trump ordered a military operation which appears to have been some kind of personal favor to Russia, which may have been in violation of U.S. law, which was made more treacherous as a result of his idiotic Muslim ban, and which may have put money in the pocket of his own cabinet member’s family – and which got four U.S. soldiers killed. No wonder Trump is bending over backward to try to cover this up. It has the makings of one of the biggest scandals in U.S. history.
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Donald Trump’s idiotic Muslim ban against Chad may have gotten the four U.S. soldiers killed in Niger
Bill Palmer
Updated: 9:52 pm EDT Thu Oct 19, 2017
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Donald Trump insisted that his overtly racist Muslim Ban would somehow make the United States safer. Anyone with even a basic grasp of reality understood that it served no purpose whatsoever. Now it turns out the Muslim Ban has left the U.S. less safe, as it led to a diplomatic crisis that ended up putting U.S soldiers in danger in Niger – including the four who were killed this month.


After Trump revised his Muslim Ban on September 24th and added the nation of Chad to it for no apparent reason, Chad promptly announced that it would be pulling its own troops from Niger (link). Just ten days later, four U.S. soldiers died in Niger. Would they still be alive if the soldiers from Chad had still been there fighting alongside them? There’s no way to determine that based on publicly available information. But we do know that Trump’s Muslim Ban left U.S. soldiers in Niger without support troops from a key ally.


Remarkably, much of Trump’s Muslim Ban still hasn’t gone into effect. It’s so blatantly unconstitutional that portions of it have been preemptively struck down by various courts and judges. Yet Trump’s mere attempt at rolling out such a blatantly racist and profoundly divisive policy has caused so much harm to America’s relationships around the world, it’s served to isolate the U.S. military in its operations and leave U.S. troops more vulnerable around the world.


The role that the Muslim Ban played in the Niger scandal may be just one reason why Donald Trump is trying to desperately to cover it up. As we’ve documented, Trump appeared to have been doing Vladimir Putin a favor, in violation of U.S. sanctions against Russia, by ordering the U.S. military op in Niger at all (link). In other words, Trump’s Niger scandal may simply be an extension of his traitorous Russia scandal.
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Re: Niger another nameless war

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:55 am

That's right. When Trump's predecessor committed the original troops for this project, it was for adults-in-the-room, sophisticated terrorist fighting and now Trump has turned it into something untoward. And his tweets are distracting from his culpability in this part of the US perpetual war machine, not the Russian angle at all. American governmental agencies would never engage in propaganda to encourage citizen rubes to dig deeper into the morass that would have it that one particular party or president is responsible for an otherwise sound undertaking.

DEADLY OVERCONFIDENCE: TRUMP THINKS MISSILE DEFENSES WORK AGAINST NORTH KOREA, AND THAT SHOULD SCARE YOU
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PUTIN SAYS AMERICANS SHOULD NOT 'DISRESPECT' TRUMP, BECAUSE HE'S THE PRESIDENT AND 'DOESN'T NEED ANY ADVICE'
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Thanks for letting trump off the hook...he is never responsible for anything is he?

IT IS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT

THAT'S IS JUST WHAT trump would say....

IT IS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT

and gotta love trump relying on those blood sucking private contractors to clean up the mess

BLACKWATER ERIC PRINCE ????

The black guy isn't president any longer

the woman lost the election

the orange hair wonder is in charge now


CHAD withdrew their troops that were protecting our soldiers ...WHY....because of trump'

Why did trump put Chad on the ban list?

Why did trump insist that Chad give over a copy of their passport?

Why did trump wait 2 weeks to say anything about this?

Why did trump have to make this all about a grieving widow?

Why did trump have to try and change the subject?

trump only spoke about this when confronted by a reporter


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Postby Spiro C. Thiery » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:09 am

It's not letting Trump off the hook. It's putting the problem into the proper perspective. He is indeed the perfect prez for the project at this point. As was Obama before him, and on and on. Though, it appears that with his oh-so unprecedented lack of decorum and human decency that all his predecessors possessed such to be worthy of libraries, sinecure and patriotic respect, #theresistance is working overtime to distract even from the distractions. Seen entirely unemotionally and devoid of any morality, it is a wonder to behold. Keep fighting the good fight there, seeminglydreaming.

seemslikeadream » 6 minutes ago wrote:
That's right. When Trump's predecessor committed the original troops for this project, it was for adults-in-the-room, sophisticated terrorist fighting and now Trump has turned it into something untoward. And his tweets are distracting from his culpability in this part of the US perpetual war machine, not the Russian angle at all. American governmental agencies would never engage in propaganda to encourage citizen rubes to dig deeper into the morass that would have it that one particular party or president is responsible for an otherwise sound undertaking.


Thanks for letting trump off the hook...he is never responsible for anything is he?

IT IS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT

THAT'S IS JUST WHAT trump would say....IT IS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT

and gotta love trump relying on those blood sucking private contractors to clean up the mess

BLACKWATER ERIC PRINCE ????

The black guy isn't president any longer

the woman lost the election

the orange hair wonder is in charge now


CHAD withdrew their troops that were protecting our soldiers ...WHY....because of trump'

Why did trump put Chad on the ban list?

Why did trump insist that Chad give over a copy of their passport?

Why did trump wait 2 weeks to say anything about this?

Why did trump have to make this all about a grieving widow?

Why did trump have to try and change the subject?

trump only spoke about this when confronted by a reporter
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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:10 am

trump is a danger to the world I am sorry you do not see that

I really don't need you to school me on U.S. history ....I know it very very well


you are NOT putting it perspective YOU are blaming EVERYONE except the person responsible

that's right go for the stupid name calling.....gotta love the stupid name calling

trump loves to call people stupid names

trump loves to blame EVERYONE else for his fuck ups


but please do go on and call me stupid names ...

how trumpian of you

IT IS trump's FINGER THAT IS ON THE NUCLEAR BUTTON NO ONE ELSE'S

and NO one can stop him

and the WHOLE WORLD WILL SUFFER

who will trump blame when he pushes the button?

the black guy made me do it

the woman made me do it

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Trump’s ‘Downward Mental Health Spiral’ Could Have Dire Consequences, Clinical Psychologist Warns

JohnThomas DidymusOctober 19, 2017
Leanne Watt, an expert in the management of personality disorders affecting adults, has warned that President Donald Trump’s mental instability could have serious consequences for the country and the rest of the world. Watt gave the warning in article co-authored with Richard Painter, President George W. Bush’s former White House ethics attorney. In the article published by NBC News, Watt warned that based on the experience she has gathered over several years of treating adults with personality disorders, there could be dire consequences for the country and the whole world if Trump’s mental health condition continues to deteriorate.

Watt insisted that a mental health expert does not need to personally examine a person who is showing overt signs of untreated mental illness before making conclusions about that person’s mental health status, and warning the public about it.

“Recognizing unfitness in a president does not necessarily mean waiting for a physical sign or even a catastrophic event.”

“Personality disorders present predictable patterns that are well documented in the medical literature,” Watt and Painter wrote in the article. “In fact, we can often find the most accurate and honest account of a public figure’s Cluster B symptoms through public records.”

Responding to criticism of other mental health experts who have spoken out about Trump’s mental health in the past, the writers argued that mental health professionals have an ethical responsibility to speak up when they observe public figures exhibiting behavior that is “troubling or suspect.”

The authors argued that it is dangerous for mental health experts to wait for Trump to cause trouble or do something that leads to a catastrophe before making their observations about Trump’s personality known to the public. They added that it would be irresponsible of mental health experts to remain silent after detecting that Trump is mentally unfit to be president and that he is capable of actions that could endanger the country and the rest of the world.

“Waiting for unfitness to manifest beyond the types of observable and highly predictive behavior patterns studied by psychiatrists and psychologists is, we believe, naive,” Watt and Painter wrote.

“We cannot rule out the possibility that a president in a downward mental health spiral could destroy important global partnerships… and leave the U.S. vulnerable to terror attacks or war.”


Watt is not the first mental health expert who has warned that Trump could be mentally unfit for the responsibilities of the president and commander-in-chief. Several other mental health experts have raised questions about Trump’s mental health status.

Recently, a group of about 800 mental health professionals released a statement, saying they were concerned that Trump’s mental health condition makes him unfit to be president and commander-in-chief.

Several former government officials have also voiced their concerns about Trump’s mental health.

Peter Wehner, a former adviser to President George W. Bush, recently said he was concerned that Trump “is psychologically and emotionally not well.”

During a CNN panel discussion with Trump’s biographer, Michael D’Antonio, Wehner said that Trump is not “stable.”

“This is a president who has a disordered mind. He’s impulsive and vindictive.”


Wehner cited Trump’s recent public comments about General John Kelly’s son and President Obama’s response to his death. He also recalled Trump’s confrontation with the Khan family and Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.).

“This is a person who is just not in command of his emotions and feelings and actions.”

Trump also came under criticism when he told the widow of the U.S. soldier killed in Niger that her husband “knew what he signed up for.”

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Chad Added to Trump Travel Ban Over Passport Paper Shortage, Officials Say
by ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON — This is the story of how an office supply glitch became a major irritant between the United States and one of its close security partners.

When President Donald Trump added the African nation of Chad last month to his most recent installment of travel restrictions, everyone from the Pentagon to Chad's leaders to the French government was perplexed. The U.S. has praised Chad's cooperation on counterterrorism, especially its campaign against a vicious Boko Haram insurgency spilling over from Nigeria.

As it turns out, a seemingly pedestrian issue was largely to blame: Chad had run out of passport paper.

Related: Trump's Restriction of Visas to Chad Puzzles Experts

Chad and every other country had been given 50 days to prove it was meeting a "baseline" of security conditions the Trump administration says is needed for the U.S. to properly screen potential visitors. One condition was that countries provide a recent sample of its passports so that the Homeland Security Department could analyze how secure they really are.

Lacking the special passport paper, Chad's government couldn't comply, but offered to provide a pre-existing sample of the same type of passport, several U.S. officials said. It wasn't enough to persuade Homeland Security to make an exception to requirements the agency has been applying strictly and literally to countries across the globe, said the officials, who requested anonymity to discuss disagreements within the administration.

Still, the U.S. told Chad it could be removed once the issues were addressed, with national security adviser H.R. McMaster saying at the time that Chad could come off the list "maybe in a couple of months." McMaster spoke to Chadian leader Idriss Deby last week about getting the visa restrictions removed, the State Department said, but the country remains on the list.

At least that was the case until Tuesday, hours before the new restrictions were to take effect, when a federal judge in Hawaii blocked Trump's order, saying it had the same legal problems that foiled the first two iterations of his "travel ban." The move puts the restrictions temporarily on hold, but Trump's administration has pledged to appeal.

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The Homeland Security Department confirmed that the U.S. "lacks a recent sample from Chad" of its passports, but said there were other problems, too.

"The restrictions placed on Chad dealt with more than just the receipt of a passport exemplar. Chad does not adequately share public safety and terrorism-related information," said Homeland Security spokesman David Lapan. He said the U.S. was working closely with Chad on the issue and was "eager to see Chad develop more secure travel documents and make other enhancements."

It was unclear why Chad ran into the office supply problem, although regional upheaval and the persistent terror threat have disrupted trade in the impoverished country in recent years. For a recent period of about six months, Chad stopped issuing passports, although it appears that situation has since been resolved.

Image: Chadian troops in 2015
Chadian troops participate at an army base in N'djamena, Chad, in 2015. Jerome Delay / AP
The passport paper issue helps to illustrate the infighting within Trump's administration that led up to the revised travel order, which also placed restrictions on Iran, Libya, North Korea, Somalia, Syria, Yemen and Venezuela.

Homeland Security, working with the White House, pushed Chad onto the list without significant input from the State Department or the Defense Department, said a congressional official briefed on the process who wasn't authorized to discuss it publicly and requested anonymity.

Other officials said once the other national security agencies learned of the plan to add Chad, they objected vehemently, but were overruled.



WHY DID CHAD WITHDRAWN HUNDREDS OF TROOPS THAT WERE PROTECTING U.S. SOLDIERS?
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Postby Spiro C. Thiery » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:25 am

I've been aware of this danger throughout many of the steps in my long life that could only have led us to this sorry state. That you see it as me not seeing it is part and parcel of modern moral relativism at work. That you accuse me of calling you a name when I didn't call you a name, and then call me a name, and then proceed to intersperse your space killing ravings that have made this forum unbearable with innuendo that attempts to guilt by association anyone who views this obviously bipartisan oligarchy as such as a Trump apologist is certainly worthy of a name. But there's a sound policy to not responding to those sorts of things.

seemslikeadream wrote:trump is a danger to the world I am sorry you do not see that


you are NOT putting it perspective YOU are blaming EVERYONE except the person responsible

that's right go for the stupid name calling.....gotta love the stupid name calling

trump loves to call people stupid names

trump loves to blame EVERYONE else for his fuck ups


but please do go on and call me stupid names ...

how trumpian of you
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Keep fighting the good fight there, seeminglydreaming.


it's trumpian ...Macian....cdian ....Roryian....own it

you made this personal not me because YOU disagree with me

I just see it as your turn at bat...just a kinder gentler form of personal attack
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Postby Spiro C. Thiery » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:39 am

Oh, right, I twisted your moniker at your expense. Sure, I own that. But I don't own having made it personal. Personal is in the view of the person, and if you choose that it is, that's your cross to bear, not mine. Not unrelatedly, you certainly have made this your personal forum.

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Keep fighting the good fight there, seeminglydreaming.


it's trumpian ...Macian....cdian ....Roryian....own it

you made this personal not me
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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:42 am

there you go again can't help yourself from making this personal

dig away..be my guest
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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:56 am

back from the deliberate diversion to the topic of this thread.... NIGER


A Nigerien official has said US troops acted without proper intelligence.


The Deadliest Combat For US Troops Since Trump Became President, And We Still Don't Know What Happened

A Nigerien official has said US troops acted without proper intelligence. A French official described the battling sides as "overlapping." But there's no official US version.

Posted on October 19, 2017, at 6:23 p.m.
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WASHINGTON – As the US military remained tight-lipped about even basic facts of the deadliest combat incident involving US troops since President Donald Trump took office, lawmakers on Thursday suggested that a subpoena might be necessary to get any details.

The Oct. 4 ambush of US troops in Niger, which left four US Army Green Berets dead, gained new attention this week after Trump told a young mother widowed by the attack that her husband “knew what he signed up for.”

But contradictory accounts from officials suggest that the US military did not know what it was sending its troops into and raised questions about why the US troops had acted on limited intelligence and had no plan in place in case what has been called a routine training patrol went bad.

Nigerien Interior Minister Mohamed Bazoum called the attack by ISIS-linked fighters “a failure of human intelligence” on Thursday.

US and Nigerien troops “weren’t being very careful and were not operating as if they would have on a mission where they expected to deal with an attack,” he told Radio France Internationale.

On Thursday the Pentagon would not answer basic questions, such as the time of the attack, saying it was under investigation. French, US and Nigerien defense officials all described the ambush as a surprise, and painted a picture of confusion on the ground.

Two weeks later, everyone still wants answers, including, it appears, the Pentagon. Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis is reportedly dismayed at the lack of detailed information on what happened. US Africa Command has launched “the initial stages” of a formal investigation into the ambush, a Pentagon official confirmed to BuzzFeed News.

US officials have given sometimes contradictory answers about what happened, who evacuated the dead and injured troops, and why a fourth soldier was left behind, his body not recovered until 48 hours later.

Sounding exasperated, Mattis on Thursday said US military leaders “like to know what we're taking about before we talk. We don't have all the accurate information yet.”

Similarly, the Pentagon’s chief spokeswoman Dana White repeatedly insisted the military “will be transparent when we know exactly what happened.”

Armed Services Committee Chairman Sen. John McCain of Arizona said he was disappointed in the Pentagon’s opaque response and that he has conveyed that to Mattis.

"I'd like to hear them say that they're going to tell the Congress and the American people exactly what happened and why, and why we weren't told about it before,” he told reporters on Capitol Hill on Thursday.

The 12-man team from the Army’s 3rd Special Forces Group and roughly 30 Nigerien soldiers were near the village of Tongo Tongo, just miles from the Mali border, when the attack occurred. They were in unarmored vehicles on what was initially thought to be a low-risk mission, a meeting of village elders for what the military calls KLE, or key leadership engagement.

“It was not meant to be an engagement with the enemy,” AFRICOM spokesman Colonel Mark Cheadle told reporters on Oct. 6. “The threats at the time were deemed to be unlikely, so there was no overhead armed air cover during the engagement.”

U.S. Army Sergeant La David Johnson, who was among four special forces soldiers killed in Niger, West Africa on October 4, 2017.
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U.S. Army Sergeant La David Johnson, who was among four special forces soldiers killed in Niger, West Africa on October 4, 2017.
The group had done 29 patrols in the previous six months without contact with militants, Pentagon officials said.

French and Nigerien officials have provided a few details about what happened during the ambush. The group was attacked by about 50 fighters, “aboard a dozen vehicles and about twenty motorcycles," according to Niger’s Army chief of staff.

The militants fired on the US and Nigerien troops with machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades, according to that account.

French forces in the region were called on to respond with aerial support, but it took 30 minutes for Mirage fighter-bombers to arrive at the scene. Even then, they could not fire on the attackers due to what French General Staff Col. Patrick Steiger described as "overlapping forces on the ground” – meaning the opposing sides were so close together that any aerial bombardment was likely to kill US and Nigerien troops as well as militants.

In the days after the attack, Mattis praised the speed of the French response.

“I completely reject the idea that that was slow,” he told reporters.

The US military believes the ambush was likely carried out by an ISIS affiliate called ISIS in the Greater Sahara, or ISIS-GS, one of several affiliates operating in the region. The group has attacked French counterterrorism forces in the past, but this was their first attack on American troops.

The body of the fourth soldier, Sgt. La David Johnson, was not found until two days later. On Thursday, White would only say that “he was separated.” It is still not clear how and when he was killed, and why he was left in the aftermath of the firefight when everyone else was evacuated.

Pentagon officials have pushed back hard against the suggestion that Johnson was left behind.

“From the moment of contact, no one was left behind,” Lt. Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on Thursday. He would not say at what point US forces realized that Johnson was not with them, but he said that US partners “were on the ground actively searching” for him.

“A lot of men and a lot of women searched very hard to find him,” McKenzie said. "We didn't leave him behind. We searched until we found him, and we brought him home."

On the way to receive his remains at Miami International Airport, JOhnson's widow was told that his casket would have to be closed for his funeral because of the condition of his body.

There also has been confusion about who flew the helicopters that evacuated the dead and wounded from the scene. At first, the Pentagon said it was French military. On Thursday, defense officials said a private contractor airlifted some of the troops from the scene. Pentagon spokesperson White would not say if any US air support had been on call.

In the days after the attack, Pentagon officials tried to put the best light on the mission, calling it "tragic" but "also illustrative of the general success of the campaign.”

“I would say that what was actually very positive about it was the fact that they were able to have close-air support overhead, about 30 minutes after first contact, which is pretty impressive,” McKenzie said.

Four Nigerien troops were also killed in the attack, and eight more were injured. US Army Green Berets were among hundreds who attended the memorial in the capital of Niamey, and the country declared three days of national mourning.

The US military has been in Niger since 2013, and currently has around 800 troops in the country, according to the Pentagon. The US has expanded its reach in the area in recent years, building a $100 million base for surveillance drones in Agadez, in central Niger.
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America Should Beware a Chadian Military Scorned
Stung by its inclusion on the Trump administration’s travel ban, Chad is already making life harder for U.S. troops in Africa.

BY ALEXANDER THURSTON | OCTOBER 18, 2017, 1:30 PM

For reasons that remain unclear, U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration included the Central African nation of Chad in the latest iteration of its infamous travel ban, which also targets citizens from Iran, Libya, North Korea, Somalia, Syria, Venezuela, and Yemen. The move came as a shock to most observers, not least because Chad, in the White House’s own words, is an “important and valuable counterterrorism partner” in a region threatened by al Qaeda, the Islamic State, and Boko Haram. Now Washington may learn, in the least pleasant fashion possible, just how important and valuable Chad has been.

In the wake of the new travel ban announcement on Sept. 24, Chad has withdrawn hundreds of troops from neighboring Niger, where up to 2,000 of its soldiers were part of a coalition battling Boko Haram. The Chadian government has not yet offered an official explanation for the pullout, but Communications Minister Madeleine Alingué condemned Chad’s inclusion on the travel ban, saying that it “seriously undermines” the “good relations between the two countries, notably in the fight against terrorism.”

Despite its relative poverty, Chad plays an outsized role in African security and politics. Its troops are considered some of the most capable in the region, and its president, Idriss Déby, has won considerable influence with the African Union, France, and, until recently at least, the United States by deploying them to clean up others’ messes. In addition to leading the fight against Boko Haram, Chad’s military is busy countering al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and other jihadis in the Sahel, a volatile region that includes parts of Mali and Niger.

The groundwork for the country’s current security partnership with Washington was laid in northern Mali in 2013, when Chadian soldiers fought alongside French forces in some of the harshest terrain and deadliest battles as they sought to roll back jihadis who had dug in there. When less than two years later Boko Haram began seizing huge swaths of territory in northeastern Nigeria, Washington looked to Chad as part of a regional response because it didn’t believe Nigeria could handle the threat on its own. Chad and Niger, which also has a budding security partnership with the United States, mounted an armed intervention in early 2015 that pushed Boko Haram out of numerous towns and broke up the group’s Islamic emirate. Later, Chad took on a leading role in the Multinational Joint Task Force, a larger military coalition that included troops from four other nations, hosting its new headquarters as well as a coordination cell partly staffed by Western experts advising the campaign against Boko Haram.

Chad has also continued to play an important role in Mali, where the United States is a significant contributor to the United Nations peacekeeping mission and aides French counterterrorism efforts with financial, logistical, and intelligence support. It is a former Chadian minister, Mahamat Saleh Annadif, who leads the U.N. mission in Mali, and Chad has signed on to another regional effort — the so-called “Sahel G5” force that also includes forces from Mauritania, Mali, Burkina Faso, and Niger — that is tasked with improving security in the troubled Mali-Niger-Burkina Faso border region. The G5 force was a brainchild of the French, and the Trump administration has been skeptical of the effort because of the projected cost but initially gave it some rhetorical support.

But while Chad has burnished its image abroad by participating in military operations, it has struggled with mounting unrest and economic hardship at home. An authoritarian leader who seized power in 1990, Déby finds himself increasingly threatened by student and labor union unrest as persistently low oil prices and mounting security expenditures have at times left his government unable to pay workers. As his position has grown more tenuous, Déby has been blunt with his Western partners: Give more money, or Chad will scale back its regional security commitments. France and others have heeded Déby’s threats. In June, the International Monetary Fund approved over $300 million in extra loans for Chad. In September, a donor roundtable in Paris generated nearly $20 billion in pledges designed to support Chad’s 2017-2021 national development plan.

But instead of rewarding Chad as other donors have, the Trump administration has punished it. Experts are still baffled by the decision to include the country on the latest travel ban, which was partially blocked by a federal judge on Tuesday, hours before it was set to go into effect.Experts are still baffled by the decision to include the country on the latest travel ban, which was partially blocked by a federal judge on Tuesday, hours before it was set to go into effect. The administration said it was because “several terrorist groups are active within Chad or in the surrounding region” and the government has failed to “adequately share public-safety and terrorism-related information.” Yet on the first count, at least — terrorist groups active within its borders — Chad is better off than many of its neighbors. One possible explanation for this discrepancy, which would be preposterous in any administration except this one, is that the architects of the ban, having repeatedly heard the phrases “Boko Haram” and “Lake Chad” in the same sentence, assumed that Chad must be the epicenter of Boko Haram. (Lake Chad in fact lies on the border of Chad and three other countries, and Boko Haram is mostly confined to northern Nigeria, northern Cameroon, and southeastern Niger.)

Regardless of the rationale for including Chad in the ban, the decision was a mistake. The partial withdrawal of Chadian soldiers from places like southeastern Niger, an area that has been heavily targeted by Boko Haram in recent years, could result in swift and serious consequences. Initial reports indicate that the security situation there has already begun to deteriorate in the vacuum left by departing Chadian forces: Boko Haram attacks have escalated since the withdrawal, and so has banditry, a chronic regional problem. A security vacuum will also have political and humanitarian consequences, imperiling tentative deradicalization and amnesty efforts by Niger’s government and making it more difficult to get vital assistance to millions of displaced people in the Lake Chad region.

A more significant Chadian pullback would likely embolden Boko Haram, which already seems to be getting some of its mojo back. This year has seen an uptick not just in suicide bombings, but also in audacious and successful attacks on Nigerian military convoys and bases. If Chadian authorities take even more dramatic steps to halt their cooperation with the United States and other regional militaries involved in the fight against Boko Haram, the Multinational Joint Task Force itself could be partly dismantled, as could the coordination cell in Chad’s capital, developments that would impede the entire regional effort to counter the terrorist group.

There are good reasons why the United States should consider reducing its dependence on Chad, Déby’s autocratic rule being one of them, but the travel ban does not appear to be part of a considered rebalancing of U.S. security relationships in the region. The confusion and anger engendered by Chad’s inclusion, moreover, seem unlikely to lead to reform. Of course, the last word about the travel ban has not been said, as Tuesday’s court ruling suggests. Déby is a tough and skilled negotiator who has faced down savvier interlocutors than Trump — including the World Bank and ExxonMobil — and has come away each time with at least part of what he wanted. The Chadian president is likely betting that with his forces withdrawn from Niger, the Trump administration will quickly come to appreciate his country’s security contributions and remove it from the list. The danger for Déby, Washington, and especially for the region, however, is that the administration’s characteristic disorganization and stubbornness may delay a course correction until after serious harm has occurred.
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Re: Niger another nameless war

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Spiro C. Thiery » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:12 am wrote:
US has drones and hundreds of troops in Niger. Here's why
By Faith Karimi, CNN Updated 1111 GMT (1911 HKT) October 18, 2017

(CNN)The killing of four American soldiers in Niger has drawn attention to the role of US troops in western Africa, where several terror networks roam freely.
In the region, the US has enemies all around. Niger shares a border with Mali, where an al Qaeda affiliate and other Islamist groups thrive in the vast desert. It also borders Libya, where ISIS and other extremists are regrouping, and Nigeria, where Boko Haram is a major challenge.

The Defense Department said 50 ISIS-affiliated fighters ambushed the US soldiers on October 4, leaving two others wounded. As a debate rages over President Donald Trump's phone calls to the soldiers' grieving families, here are things to know about the US operations in Niger:

American troops have been in Niger for years
The US has previously acknowledged it has troops there. But it's never gone into much detail. In 2013, the White House announced that then-President Barack Obama had deployed 100 military personnel to Niger. "This deployment will provide support for intelligence collection and will also facilitate intelligence sharing with French forces conducting operations in Mali, and with other partners in the region," Obama said in a letter to the House speaker. Since then, the number of US troops in the nation has risen to about 800. Small groups of US special operations forces advise local troops as they battle Boko Haram and al Qaeda.

Niger is crucial to the war on terror
US officials consider Niger strategically important in the war on terror. The nation, along with Chad and Mali, serves as a bridge between north and sub-Saharan Africa, and all three serve as significant transit routes for local al Qaeda and ISIS affiliates. The terror groups use these routes to generate revenue that helps them recruit, expand and export attacks, according to US officials.

ISIS also uses the transit routes to move fighters northward, where they gain easy access to Europe and the West. The terror group is also attempting to infiltrate the gold-mining industry in Niger so it can sell the element on the black market and finance terrorism, according to one official. Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb -- the terror group's local affiliate -- operates along the border between Mali and Niger, despite a French-led military counterterrorism operation that started three years ago. The US military says it largely plays a supporting role by providing intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance assets in support of French forces. "Niger is an important partner of ours, we have a deep relationship with them," said Lt. Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, the director of the Joint Staff. Staff Sgts. Bryan Black, Dustin Wright, Jeremiah Johnson, and Army Sgt. La David Johnson, were part of a team advising and assisting Niger forces when they were attacked. Five Nigerien soldiers also died in the ambush.

The US works with allies in the region
The US is not the only nation with a large presence in the region, McKenzie said. France has about 5,000 forces in the area, he said. The French operation also involves forces from Germany, Mali, Niger and other countries in the region. "We have about 1,000 forces distributed over the Chad Basin, most of them in Niger, but not all of them," McKenzie said last week at a news conference. The Chad Basin area includes the nations that border Lake Chad: Nigeria, Niger, Cameroon and Chad. Nigeria militant group Boko Haram, which has pledged allegiance to the Islamic State, is a threat to the nations in the Chad Basin.

The US has drones there, too
Earlier this year, the US military started moving its drone operation from Niger's capital, Niamey, to Agadez. Starting next year, the US Africa Command will launch its MQ9 Reapers -- "hunter/killer" drones with advanced intelligence gathering capabilities -- from an air base just outside the city. Agadez is more centrally located and will provide the US military with surveillance over a larger, more significant area.

The $100 million project is a massive undertaking and has included outreach to local communities. A US Army civil affairs team worked on several community efforts this year to build relationships and engage with the people whose lives will be affected by the drone operations. Africa Command described the construction of the Agadez airbase as "projected to be the biggest military labor troop project in US Air Force history." The US has been using a local airport while the base is under construction, according to US Africa Command.

CNN's Barbara Starr and Arwa Damon contributed to this report.


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