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by C_D Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:06 pm
cont. from above
The talk of colonising space is a joke. Literally. This reality has given us such a clearly defined and absolutely obvious boundary that we cannot cross - into that which we call 'space' - the most poisonous environment imagineable for any biological creature. If it were possible to establish outposts in space - which it will not be, in any meaningful way - we would find that humans become exponentaiily infertile with increasing distance from Planet Earth. There is nothing out there for us, we have to make do with what we have here.
But we have to dream, right?
tbc
Belligerent Savant » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:26 pm wrote:.Iamwhomiam » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:23 pm wrote:When governments dump tons of gold on the market the goldbugs will be in tears watching the value of their $1500 ounces plummet to $35.
If the internet goes down, good luck cashing in on your bitcoin holdings. Same is true regarding plastic should it replace cash.
We should be creating our own local currencies for our local markets, as well as creating an alternate replacement for the post office and mail delivery in our local regions. Mars is a very expensive toy for scientists to play with.
I missed this earlier.
"When governments dump tons of gold on the market" -- when do you anticipate that would happen? Are there any indicators that it will happen anytime soon, if ever? I note there is speculation that govts may sell their Gold stores, particularly given current circumstances, but this remains a speculative take. Anything is possible in these times, however.
"If the internet goes down" -- and would that impact only Bitcoin? Also, for how long? Are you suggesting that the internet would go down 'forever'? Because even if it goes down for an entire week, for example, nothing happens to the Bitcoin. It will remain where it is, to be accessible once the 'internet' is up and running again. The Bitcoin market would drop, surely, but it wouldn't be the first time, and it wouldn't be surprising to see it push back up again in time.
Now, if you're implying the internet would go down FOREVER, such a scenario would impact currencies (and businesses) broadly in our already largely cashless society. Commerce and markets would collapse. Eventually to be built anew, of course, but fortunes and livelihoods would be lost across the board, regardless of Bitcoin ownership.
Iamwhomiam » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:21 pm wrote:
We're really heading into uncharted territory. If it's been charted, god help us all.
chump » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:46 am wrote:
by C_D Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:06 pm
cont. from above
The talk of colonising space is a joke. Literally. This reality has given us such a clearly defined and absolutely obvious boundary that we cannot cross - into that which we call 'space' - the most poisonous environment imagineable for any biological creature. If it were possible to establish outposts in space - which it will not be, in any meaningful way - we would find that humans become exponentaiily infertile with increasing distance from Planet Earth. There is nothing out there for us, we have to make do with what we have here.
But we have to dream, right?
tbc
Iamwhomiam wrote:It takes three years to reach Mars.
The trip takes around seven months; a bit longer than astronauts currently stay on the International Space Station.
If that was the case everyone would be sterile halfway to Mars.
DrEvil » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:03 pm wrote:Maybe you were thinking of the launch window to Mars which comes around every two years (26 months to be specific)?
And yeah, radiation and bone loss are big hurdles that can both impact fertility, but not on an exponential scale as c_d claims. If that was the case everyone would be sterile halfway to Mars.
Belligerent Savant » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:02 pm wrote:.If that was the case everyone would be sterile halfway to Mars.
Not that I'm staking a position one way or another on this (since I've performed zero research on the specific claim), but the above quoted bit reads like we have case samples/test results to draw from.
Unless i've missed a critical memo, have humans traversed beyond Earth's outer orbit (or beyond the Van Allen belts) since our reported Moon landings over ~45 yrs ago?
Hopefully that will change in the near future.
Belligerent Savant » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:02 am wrote:.If that was the case everyone would be sterile halfway to Mars.
Not that I'm staking a position one way or another on this (since I've performed zero research on the specific claim), but the above quoted bit reads like we have case samples/test results to draw from.
Unless i've missed a critical memo, have humans traversed beyond Earth's outer orbit (or beyond the Van Allen belts) since our reported Moon landings over ~45 yrs ago?
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