13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:28 pm

one more time for old time sake and to save a little time

I can't help myself :rofl: :rofl: my bad :rofl: :rofl: my bold :rofl: :rofl:

I was surprised to learn he is still writing ...I kinda thought he got bumped off in his namesake thread ...I don't know I'm not reading it ...such deflection the darkness hurts my eyes :rofl: :rofl:


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Robert Mueller just opened the door for treason charges against Donald Trump and his people
Bill Palmer
Updated: 3:15 pm EST Fri Feb 16, 2018

The moment came and went in an instant. It’ll get lost in the shock and awe of today’s announcement that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has obtained grand jury indictments against thirteen Russian nationals for conspiring to rig the election in Donald Trump’s favor. But in the end, we may look back at two words from today as having been key in all this: cyber war. Why does that matter? Because in legal terms, they translate to another word: treason.



Today’s grand jury indictments against the Russians establish that Russian hacking was in fact an act of cyber war, according to an on-air MSNBC legal expert. Treason charges require that an act of war be involved. Up to now, the federal government has not attempted to clearly define what counts as an act of cyber war, meaning there’s little legal precedent on the matter. Today firmly establishes that the Russian hacking of the U.S. presidential election was indeed an act of cyber war against the United States.



This means that people involved with the Trump-Russia scandal can be charged with treason. We’ve already seen Trump campaign advisers Paul Manafort and Rick Gates be charged with Conspiracy Against the United States, the peacetime equivalent to treason charges. But if it can be demonstrated that Manafort and Gates knew the Russians were hacking the election even as they were committing their own related crimes with Russia, they can be charged with conspiracy to commit treason.



More importantly, if it can be demonstrated that Donald Trump knew about the Russian election hacking even as he played his own role in the Trump-Russia conspiracy, this means that Trump can be charged with treason. Today was yet another reminder that Robert Mueller has always been several steps ahead of us, and that we don’t know for sure what he’ll do next, or even what else he’s secretly done. But he does everything for a reason. Today he established that Trump-Russia was an act of cyber war against the United States. There’s only one reason for him to have done that.
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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:58 pm

Conspiracy to defraud the United States ....Information WARFARE


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Mueller probe to go on for months: report

Special counsel Robert Mueller's team of investigators has not yet finished its probe into whether members of the Trump campaign conspired with Russia to disrupt and influence the 2016 presidential election.

Bloomberg reported Friday that the special counsel's indictments on Friday of 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities represents only part of a larger investigation that still includes whether the Trump campaign colluded with Moscow.

Mueller's investigation is expected to continue for months, according to Bloomberg. Investigators are also looking into whether Trump sought to obstruct the probe into Russian election meddling.

At a news conference Friday afternoon, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the Russia investigation, said that there was nothing in the latest indictment that suggested that any American participated in the alleged plot.

But Trump, who has blasted Mueller's probe as a "witch hunt" and has denied any ties to Russia, took to Twitter to declare that the indictment essentially proves that there was no coordination between his campaign and the Russians.

"Russia started their anti-US campaign in 2014, long before I announced that I would run for President. The results of the election were not impacted," Trump wrote. "The Trump campaign did nothing wrong — no collusion!"
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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:17 pm

Photo: Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, who paid Manafort for his pro-Russia work in Ukraine, is seen in this picture with Yevgeny Prigozhin, who was one of the Russians indicted today by Robert Mueller & Rod Rosenstein.
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stillrobertpaulsen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:13 pm wrote:Internet Research Agency and Concord Management sounded very familiar. Look what popped in my GD search:

seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:00 am wrote:
Putin's Chef Financed St. Petersburg Troll Factory
NEWS | OCT 17, 2017

U.S. officials believe Russian oligarch and chef Yevgeny Prigozhi is the main financier behind the Internet Research Agency (IRA), a Kremlin-linked troll factory that spread fake news during the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign. Prigozhi has close ties to Vladimir Putin:

Prigozhin has a colorful past. He spent nine years in prison in the 1980s for fraud and robbery, according to Russian media reports. After his release, he went into the catering business -- renovating a boat and opening New Island, one of a half-dozen upscale restaurants he owns in St. Petersburg. Putin turned to him to cater his birthday parties as well as dinners with visiting leaders, including President Bush and Jacques Chirac of France. A headline in The Moscow Times referred to Prigozhin as Putin's "Personal Chef."

Prigozhin subsequently won lucrative catering contracts for schools and Russia's armed forces. He escorted Putin around his new food-processing factory in 2010. By then he was very much a Kremlin insider with a growing commercial empire.
CNN says internal IRA documents show the troll factory had a "Department of Provocations' dedicated to sowing fake news and social divisions in the West."

The United States Treasury Department sanctioned Prigozhin personally in December 2016 for providing financial support for Russia's military occupation of Ukraine. Treasury added two of his companies to the list of sanctioned operations in June 2017.

Read more: Exclusive: Putin's 'chef,' the man behind the troll factory (CNN)
https://investigaterussia.org/media/201 ... ll-factory




Putin's 'chef,' the man behind the troll factory

Exclusive: Putin's 'chef,' the man behind the troll factory
(CNN)Yevgeny Prigozhin is a Russian oligarch dubbed "chef" to President Vladimir Putin by the Russian press. In 2002, he served caviar and truffles to President George W. Bush during a summit in St. Petersburg. Before that, he renovated a boat that became the city's most exclusive restaurant.

But his business empire has expanded far beyond the kitchen. US investigators believe it was Prigozhin's company that financed a Russian "troll factory" that used social media to spread fake news during the 2016 US presidential campaign, according to multiple officials briefed on the investigation. One part of the factory had a particularly intriguing name and mission: a "Department of Provocations" dedicated to sowing fake news and social divisions in the West, according to internal company documents obtained by CNN.

Twitter gives profile names of Russian-linked accounts to Senate investigators
Prigozhin is one of the Kremlin's inner circle. His company is believed to be a main backer of the St. Petersburg-based "Internet Research Agency" (IRA), a secretive technology firm, according to US officials and the documents reviewed by CNN. Prigozhin was sanctioned by the US Treasury Department in December of 2016 for providing financial support for Russia's military occupation of Ukraine. Two of his companies, including his catering business, were also sanctioned by Treasury this year.

CNN has examined scores of documents leaked from Prigozhin's companies that show further evidence of his links to the troll factory.

One contract provided IRA with ways to monitor social media and a "system of automized promotion in search engines."

House intel committee to release Russia-linked Facebook ads
Other documents show that the monthly budget for IRA was around $1 million in 2013 -- split between departments that included Russian-language operations and the use of social media in English. The "Department of Provocations" offers this mission: "how do we create news items to achieve our goals."

Another document shows a 2013 contract drawn up by an employee at Concord Management and Consulting, Prigozhin's main business, based in St. Petersburg. The contract was for 20 million rubles (then $650,000) for construction work at the IRA and was signed by the director general of IRA.

Additionally, company records reviewed by CNN show that an employee at Concord Consulting subsequently joined IRA.

Several emails and calls from CNN to Concord Consulting went unanswered. The IRA no longer exists.

Exclusive: Russian-linked Facebook ads targeted Michigan and Wisconsin
Prigozhin is notoriously image-conscious. Last year, he filed 15 lawsuits against the Internet company Yandex, using a Russian law that obliges online search engines to remove "illegal, inaccurate, or irrelevant information." The case was subsequently dropped.

The Internet Research Agency has long been in the crosshairs of US investigations. A declassified assessment by the US intelligence community published in January concluded that the "likely financier of the so-called Internet Research Agency of professional trolls located in Saint Petersburg is a close Putin ally with ties to Russian intelligence," though it did not name Prigozhin.

Prigozhin has a colorful past. He spent nine years in prison in the 1980s for fraud and robbery, according to Russian media reports. After his release, he went into the catering business -- renovating a boat and opening New Island, one of a half-dozen upscale restaurants he owns in St. Petersburg. Putin turned to him to cater his birthday parties as well as dinners with visiting leaders, including President Bush and Jacques Chirac of France. A headline in The Moscow Times referred to Prigozhin as Putin's "Personal Chef."
Prigozhin subsequently won lucrative catering contracts for schools and Russia's armed forces. He escorted Putin around his new food-processing factory in 2010. By then he was very much a Kremlin insider with a growing commercial empire.

Origins of IRA


The Internet Research Agency was based at 55 Savushkina Street in St. Petersburg before it officially ceased operations on December 28, 2016. But investigative journalist Andrei Zakharov, who works for the business media group RBC, says its work continues.

"They have a lot of legal entities," Zakharov says, "and they still, I think, change it every year or every two years."

Company registrations retrieved by CNN appear to confirm that. Another company at 55 Savushkina Street is Glavset, whose director general has the same name as the boss of IRA. The name matches that of a former regional police chief in St. Petersburg.

CNN has also tried to reach Glavset's management without success.

Glavset lists the "creation and use of databases and information resources" as well as the "development of computer software, advertising services and information placement services" among its activities. It was listed as a company in the Russian legal entities registry in February 2015.

Yahoo: Russian trolls watched 'House of Cards' to learn about US politics
A short time later, it began advertising for staff on a headhunting site (hh.ru). One post looking for a copywriter says the job involves "writing diverse texts for the Internet and content for social networks." The posting offered a salary of 30,000 rubles a month (then a little over $500) and said experience was unnecessary. Recruits would work with a team of "young and enthusiastic colleagues" in "a comfortable and stylish office," according to the posting.

That's not how Ludmila Savchuk remembers IRA, where she worked for two months in 2015. She told CNN a card system restricted access to other floors and employees were always under camera surveillance.

"Employees are not really allowed to talk to each other," she said.

Savchuk says she estimates that now "there are about 1,000 people working at Savushkina Street. And this is just one building." She believes other employees work remotely.

Another former employee, interviewed anonymously by the independent Russian TV network RAIN this week, said: "There was a goal -- to influence opinions, to lead to a discussion. ... There was a strategy document. It was necessary to know all the main problems of the United States of America. Tax problems, the problem of gays, sexual minorities, weapons."

The former employee said the mission was to "get into the dispute yourself to fire it up, try to rock the boat." He gave an example: "It was necessary to write that sodomy is a sin. This would always get you a couple of dozen likes."

He said IRA made its employees watch the US TV series "House of Cards" to improve their English.

Not unlike the fictional White House of Frank Underwood, Savchuk says, "The atmosphere there reminded me of some anti-utopian Gulag."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/politics/ ... index.html


Nice work, slad!



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Mr. Trump, you told the Russians you'd be running for president in Moscow in November 2013—and indeed it was that declaration that led to the anti-U.S. campaign in early 2014. Cohen had made clear by mid-2013 you were running; you confirmed it to the Agalarovs and Yulya Alferova.Seth Abramson added,
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Russia started their anti-US campaign in 2014, long before I announced that I would run for President. The results of the election were not impacted. The Trump campaign did nothing wrong - no collusion!

2/ In Spring 2013, The New York Post interviewed Michael Cohen about the bevy of presidential polls you had put in the field. Cohen said, in answer to questions about whether this meant you were running for president, "Well, we're not taking these polls to stow them in a drawer."

3/ Immediately thereafter—mere weeks—Russia suddenly put in a bid for the 2013 Miss Universe pageant by wooing you face-to-face at the Miss USA pageant in Las Vegas in June. The Russian delegation needed mere hours to convince you Russia should leapfrog 19 nations for the honor.

4/ The Agalarovs, Ike Kaveladze (later at Trump Tower in June 2016), Yulya Alferova, and Artem Klyushin made up the Russian delegation, which overpaid you for the Miss Universe pageant by giving you $20 million, which helped keep the pageant from bankruptcy, according to reports.

5/ Your own tweets reveal you were also promised a meeting with Putin, which you'd been seeking for years. Yet by the time you arrived in Moscow for the Miss Universe pageant in November, Putin had backed out—because your presidential ambitions were by then clear to the Russians.

6/ Cohen—childhood friend of ex-Russian mobster Felix Sater—of course had every opportunity to communicate to the Russians what he'd already implied to The New York Post about you running. Even if he hadn't, you communicated it directly to your new business partners in Moscow.

7/ Yulya Alferova tweeted to you shortly after you left Moscow that she knew you'd make a great president. It was a topic you'd discussed with the Russians in November 2013 in Moscow as they were developing for you—with Putin's blessing—a wildly lucrative Trump Tower Moscow deal.

8/ We know this because Putin sent to your pageant—in his place—his permits man, Vlad Kozhin. He also sent his banker—head of SVB—to host you.

And of course Aras Agalarov was and is the Kremlin's real estate developer. So Putin backed out but gave you those three men in return.

9/ The result, according to Emin Agalarov in a Forbes interview, was you signed a letter-of-intent in Moscow in November 2013 for Trump Tower Moscow—using funding from Putin's banker (announced 10 days later), land from Putin's developer, and permit approval from his permits man.

10/ As Putin was—from a distance—arranging this lucrative deal for you, you were confirming the signals Cohen had already sent far and wide: you would run for president. Yulya Alferova, a member of your Moscow entourage, left your company in Moscow with no doubt about your plans.

11/ Within a matter of *weeks* the Russian operation had started up.

You, Don and Ivanka remained in regular telephonic and in-person contact with your new business partners—the Agalarovs, Putin's developers—during early 2014, as the Russian machine began its attack on America.

12/ All this is *confirmable* by your tweets; the social media accounts of your Russian entourage; public statements by your own entourage; interviews given by you and others to major media; and statements you made privately to your friends at the time. There are pictures galore.

13/ Indeed, Aras Agalarov publicly announced in February of *2017* (not a typo)—via a major Russian construction website—that the letter-of-intent you signed with him in November 2013 became inactive only *after* you ascended to the presidency, as you now "couldn't do any deals."

14/ Mind you, this is separate from Schiller confirming that a Russian in your Moscow entourage offered you prostitutes. And hey, guess what? Artem Klyushin—a Russian in your entourage—had a best friend named Konstantin Rykov. What does Rykov do? He runs Moscow's largest brothel.

15/ Fortunately, there's no evidence Rykov and Klyushin worked together to help elect you.

Actually, let's scratch that—as before the Buzzfeed dossier ever came into the public sphere, Rykov bragged publicly, on social media, that he and Klyushin worked together to elect you.

16/ Rykov's specific boast—which included facts that would later end up in the dossier, but which he couldn't have known at the time unless he had access to classified U.S. intelligence—was that the plan to aid you in becoming president began, in Russia, sometime in 2011 or 2012.

17/ All this is just the "Cliffs Notes" version of a mountain of documentary evidence suggesting the Russians knew you were running for president well before Americans formally did—and that they began their operations in 2014 fully aware that by mid-2015 you would announce a run.

18/ It's fortunate you only watch Fox News—as from watching that media outlet you would've had no idea that these events have been traced by both major media *and* independent journalists. And it's from within that ignorance that you claim Russia's 2014 actions are exculpatory.

19/ Neither Bob Mueller nor major-media journalists like Luke Harding are tracing your involvement with the Russians as beginning in 2015—when you announced your presidential run. They are seeing evidence that in 2013—and even before—you had let Russia know your political plans.

20/ It will be found—as it's the only theory of the case consistent with the facts—that it was your statement to Russian nationals that you'd run for president in 2016 that was the proximate cause of their decision to wage a massive cyber-campaign explicitly directed to aid you.

CONCLUSION/ *No one* in the intel community confirms your claim—or Pence's—that the election results weren't affected by Russia. And we already *know* from macroanalysis that your hijinks with Giuliani to coerce Comey into re-opening Clinton's case *did* affect the results. {end}
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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby American Dream » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:34 pm

“No collusion”? Not quite…
Donald Trump and his conservative media allies throw themselves a little premature celebration

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Today the Justice Department announced the indictment of 13 Russian individuals accused of breaking a whole panoply of laws as part of the Russian effort to disrupt the 2016 presidential election. The indictment itself is a hell of read -- it details a sophisticated and multilayered operation spanning several years that waged information warfare as part of a conspiracy to sow discord and chaos within the American political system. The Russians stole identities, created fake social media accounts, staged protests, bought political ads, and attempted to coordinate with political groups within the U.S.

“By early to mid-2016,” the indictment reads, the Russian defendants’ “operations included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump … and disparaging Hillary Clinton.” Some of the defendants, the indictment notes, “communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities.”

For Trump’s most slavish defenders in the conservative press, one little word in that passage -- “unwitting” -- is prompting a good deal of celebration. It proves, they argue, that no one in the Trump campaign “colluded” with Russia in the 2016 election, and that special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation is a farce that needs to be shut down.

Sean Hannity tweeted “No collusion” and linked to an article on his website with the blaring headline: “NO COLLUSION: Mueller Indictment Says TRUMP CAMPAIGN Unaware of Russian Meddling.” Judicial Watch’s Tom Fitton tweeted: “Big Mueller indictment of Russians confirms ‘unwitting’ involvement of Trump campaign with disguised Russian operatives. No collusion. Shut it down.”

Republicans are also eagerly jumping on this line of argument. The White House put out a statement saying the special counsel’s investigation indicates “there was NO COLLUSION between the Trump campaign and Russia.” During an appearance on Fox News, Republican National Committee spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany said, “Today marks the day that the Democrats’ Russia collusion conspiracy theory unraveled.”

Of course, the indictment doesn’t demonstrate that at all, and the Justice Department was very careful in how it addressed the issue of American involvement in the Russian election conspiracy. In fact, everyone celebrating the exoneration of Trump very well may be spiking the football on the 25-yard line.

Conservatives from Hannity and the RNC on down are conveniently ignoring the fact that this is just one indictment from an investigation that is still ongoing. The indictment indicates that Trump-associated political operatives were unwitting participants in this specific series of alleged criminal activities. It does not say that the illegal actions it describes encompass the entirety of the Russian election-meddling campaign. There very well may be more indictments on the way, and they could be related to known instances of Russian interference that today’s indictment didn’t touch on at all: the hacking of the DNC’s emails, the July 2016 Trump Tower meeting, etc.


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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:32 pm

These indictments are a message to the president of the United States


read between the lines of the announcement
big vindication for Rosenstein....
big momentum changer in general
axis of national security repubs are going to have a hard time dismissing this
lay ground work.... we have all been targeted ...this is social media phase

and the Russian hackers part next

for quite sometime entire intelligence community has been on this

Putin is mad tonight :cussing:



Russian trolls arranged to have an American stand outside the White House in May 2016 holding a sign that read: "Happy 55th Birthday Dear Boss" for Yevgeniy Prigozhin, better known as "Putin's cook."

What a cute bday present.

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This candid email from one of the indicted Russians, obtained by Mueller, reveals really everything you need to know about the operation to hijack the 2016 election
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1G022U

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The Russians "asked one U.S. person to build a cage on a flatbed truck and another U.S. person to wear a costume portraying Clinton in a prison uniform. Defendants and their co-conspirators paid these individuals to complete the requests."
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Indictment alleges Russians bought space on computer serves located within the U.S. to set up VPNs and mask Russian identity
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Federal grand jury returns indictment against 12 Russian nationals and three Russian entities accused of violating U.S. criminal laws in order to interfere with U.S. elections and political processes
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Some Russian defendants "posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists seeking to coordinate political activities."
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Court document says Russian defendants "posing as U.S. persons and creating false U.S. personas, operated social media pages and groups designed to attact U.S. audiences."
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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:46 pm

Mueller isn't messing around

The Russia Investigation Is Moving Really Freaking Fast
The investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller into Russian interference in the 2016 election took a significant step forward Friday, with the indictment of 13 Russian nationals and and three Russian organizations along with the announcement of a guilty plea from a California man for identity fraud.

The indictment and guilty plea are important because they are the first charges related to Russian attempts to sabotage the election. (The other indictment and pleas in the Mueller investigation have been in relation to other criminal activities.) The election interference is an activity long denounced by the U.S. intelligence community but routinely called into question by President Trump.

The indictment is also the latest sign that Mueller’s investigation is still moving quickly and ambitiously in pressing charges against those involved.

Our analysis of special counsel probes in the modern era, starting in 1979,1 puts Mueller’s investigation in select company for producing criminal charges at all — a majority of the investigations over the past four decades ended without charges being filed against anyone.

The total number of individuals charged in the investigation is now up to 18,2 including an indictment and two guilty pleas from last fall. One of the defendants from last fall, Rick Gates, is reportedly finalizing a plea deal, which would signal that he’s ready to cooperate with the investigation.

Historically, major special counsel investigations that have led to charges have lasted for years, with indictments and guilty pleas trickling out as an inquiry gains momentum. So more charges seem likely to come.

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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:03 pm

James Risen is talking about this story says he is surprised it did not get more attention....and so am I

seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:33 pm wrote:US intelligence able to claim high confidence intel assessments that Russia interfered

AIVD didn't just hack the servers - they hacked cameras WHERE THE HACKERS WERE SITTING

They know exactly who did what to hack US political targets.

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JANUARY 26 2018 - 11:07AM

Dutch took pictures of Russian hackers of US Democrats: local media

Amsterdam: The Dutch intelligence agency AIVD had access to the Russian group believed to be behind the hack of the Democratic Party years ahead of US elections, local media reported.

The Dutch intelligence group also hacked a security camera near the office entrance gaining images of the Russians involved, according to Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant.

AIVD managed to track down the physical location of a hacking group known as APT29, or Cozy Bear, to a university building near the Red Square, de Volkskrant reported.

The Moscow-based group is widely suspected of hacking the Democratic Party and is believed to be linked to the Russian government.

Current affairs program Nieuwsuur and newspaper de Volkskrant based the story on several anonymous intelligence sources in the Netherlands and the United States.

American intelligence agencies' 'high confidence' in attributing a Russian hand in the hacking of the Democratic Party comes from the AIVD hackers having "had access to the office-like space in the center of Moscow for years", the Dutch report says.



The Dutch intelligence professionals also gained access to security cameras which revealed who entered and exited the facility.

"Not only can the intelligence service now see what the Russians are doing, they can also see who's doing it," Volkskrant reported.

AIVD took pictures of every visitor which were then compared with known Russian spies.

For months rumours have circulated online about the role non-US intelligence agencies have played in tracking Russian efforts to hack US political figures and subvert the 2016 election.

The Volkskrant provides the clearest picture yet of the help received by US agencies.

One US official, former State Department official overseeing cyber issues, is quoted in the report saying: 'We'd never expected that the Russians would do this, attacking our vital infrastructure and undermining our democracy.'

Agents with the AIVD maintained access to the group's headquarters and between 2014 and 2017 and passed along information to the US Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency, the report said.

The Dutch intelligence may have contributed to the Federal Bureau of Investigation inquiry into alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election race, the report said.
http://www.theage.com.au/world/dutch-sp ... 125-p4yywo


Not only did the Dutch hack into Cozy Bear’s network, they also hacked the security cameras outside the building the Russian hackers worked in— allowing them to be identified and compared to known Russian spies.

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Dutch intelligence first to alert U.S. about Russian hack of Democratic Party
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In the Summer of 2015, Dutch intelligence services were the first to alert their American counterparts about the cyberintrusion of the Democratic National Committee by Cozy Bear, a hacking group believed to be tied to the Russian government. Intelligence hackers from Dutch AIVD (General Intelligence and Security Service) had penetrated the Cozy Bear computer servers as well as a security camera at the entrance of their working space, located in a university building adjacent to the Red Square in Moscow.

Over the course of a few months, they saw how the Russians penetrated several U.S. institutions, including the State Department, the White House, and the DNC. On all these occasions, the Dutch alerted the U.S. intelligence services, Dutch tv programme Nieuwsuur and de Volkskrant, a prominent newspaper in The Netherlands, jointly report on Thursday. This account is based on interviews with a dozen political, diplomatic and intelligence sources in The Netherlands and the U.S. with direct knowledge of the matter. None of them wanted to speak on the record, given the classified details of the matter.

Not only had Dutch intelligence penetrated the computer network of the hackers, they also managed to hack a security camera in the corridor. This allowed them to see exactly who entered the hacking room. Information about these individuals was shared with the US intelligence services. Dutch intelligence services consider Cozy Bear an extension of the SVR, the Russian foreign intelligence service, which is firmly controlled by President Putin.

The information shared by The Netherlands about the hacks at the DNC ended up on the desk of Robert Mueller, the Special Prosecutor leading the FBI investigation into possible Russian interference in the American elections. As early as December, the New York Times reported that information from, among others, Australia, the United Kingdom and The Netherlands had propelled the FBI investigation.

Gaining access to the network

In the summer of 2014, the Joint Sigint Cyber Unit (JSCU) was launched, a joint unit of AIVD and MIVD, the Dutch Military Intelligence and Security Service. Based in the Dutch city of Zoetermeer, it focuses on, among other things, obtaining intelligence through cyber operations. That same summer, the unit received a tip about a group of Russian hackers based at a university complex in Moscow. An AIVD hacking team, operating under the JSCU flag, subsequently succeeded in penetrating the internal Russian computer network. Not only did the AIVD gain access the computer network, it also hacked the security camera in the corridor.

After a few months, in November 2014, the Dutch watched as the Russian hackers penetrated the computer network of the State Department. After being alerted to this by the Dutch intelligence chiefs, it took the Americans over 24 hours to avert the Russian attack, after a digital clash which, years later, at a discussion forum in Aspen, the Deputy Director of the NSA would refer to as hand-to-hand combat . Basing itself on intelligence sources, the Washington Post wrote that a Western ally had been of assistance.

In the autumn of 2014, the Russians also gained access to the non-classified computer network of the White House. This allowed them to see confidential memos and non-public information about the itinerary of President Obama, and to at least part of President Obama's email correspondence. These hacks, too, were exposed by the Dutch intelligence services, which subsequently notified the Americans.

Cozy bear

The Russian hackers belong to a group that, over the years, the intelligence services and cyber security companies had referred to alternatively as The Dukes and APT29, but that for several years now has mostly been known as Cozy Bear. Most Western intelligence services assume that the group is controlled by foreign intelligence service SVR. For years, Western intelligence services and cyber security companies have been hunting the group, which has attacked government agencies and businesses around the globe, including in The Netherlands.

Together with another group of Russian hackers (Fancy Bear, also known as APT28), Cozy Bear is also held responsible for the cyberintrusion of the DNC. In April 2016, Fancy Bear accessed the Washington servers of the Democrats; Cozy Bear had done so as early as the summer of 2015. Once more, the group was caught red-handed by the Dutch, who again alerted their U.S. counterparts.

It is not clear why the hacks at the DNC could continue for so long despite the Dutch warnings. Last year, The New York Times reported that for months, the DNC had not taken the FBI warnings seriously. Eventually, cybersecurity company Crowdstrike, which was investigating the matter on behalf of the Democratic Party, also concluded that Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear were jointly responsible for the hacks. According to the US intelligence services, Russian officials eventually passed on the emails hacked by Fancy Bear to Wikileaks, which published them. The published emails caused a huge scandal in the American election campaign.

College Tour

Last Sunday on Dutch television programme College Tour, Rob Bertholee, head of AIVD, said that he had no doubt that the Kremlin was directly responsible for the Russian cyber campaign against U.S. government agencies. Bertholee as well as Pieter Bindt, who was heading MIVD at the time, personally discussed the DNC matter with James Clapper, at the time overall head of the US intelligence services, and Michael Rogers, who is soon to retire as the head of the NSA.

As of now, the AIVD hackers do not seem to have access to Cozy Bear any longer. Sources suggest that the openness of US intelligence sources, who in 2017 praised the help of a Western ally in news stories, may have ruined their operation. The openness caused great anger in The Hague and Zoetermeer. In the television programme College Tour, this month, AIVD director Bertholee stated that he is extra careful when it comes to sharing intelligence with the U.S., now that Donald Trump is President.
https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/221376 ... party.html



from Bloomberg

Dutch Spied on Russian Group Linked to 2016 U.S. Election Hacks
By Wout Vergauwen
January 26, 2018, 3:38 AM CST Updated on January 26, 2018, 5:32 AM CST
Dutch agency hacked ‘Cozy Bear’ network in summer of 2014
Newspaper investigation cites six people with direct knowledge
The Dutch intelligence service passed on “crucial evidence” to the FBI about Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant reported Friday, citing the results of an investigation.

Hackers from the Dutch intelligence service known as the AIVD gained access to the network of Russian hacking group “Cozy Bear” in the summer of 2014. While monitoring the group’s activities, the AIVD learned of attacks launched on the Democratic Party, according to six unidentified American and Dutch sources cited by the investigation.


The information provided by the Dutch gave grounds for the FBI to start an investigation into the influence of Russian interference on the election race between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, according to the newspaper report based on a collaborative investigation with Eelco Bosch van Rosenthal, a journalist at Dutch news program Nieuwsuur. A spokeswoman for the AIVD declined to comment on the report when contacted by phone on Friday.

Russia didn’t hear any statement from Dutch special services in this case, Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for Russian president Vladimir Putin, told reporters on a conference call.

A Jan. 6, 2017 report issued by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, based on an assessment by the CIA, FBI and NSA, said that the U.S. had “high confidence” that Putin had ordered “an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election.” The Kremlin “aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting” Clinton, the report said.

Moscow Access

Volkskrant cited sources as saying this certainty was derived from “AIVD hackers having had access to the office-like space in the center of Moscow for years.”


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Based on pictures taken of visitors to the Moscow-based hacking center, the AIVD managed to deduce that the hacker group was led by Russia’s external intelligence agency, the SVR.

The AIVD and its military counterpart, MIVD, informed the NSA liaison at the U.S. embassy in The Hague in November 2014 of Russian preparations to attack the State Department, enabling the NSA and FBI to counter Russian attempts. The information was found important enough for the NSA to open a direct line with the AIVD headquarters in Zoetermeer, Netherlands.

Trump Won’t Admit Russian Meddling, Strengthening Putin’s Hand

The Americans were taken completely by surprise by the Russian aggression, the U.S.’s former top cyber diplomat, Chris Painter, told Volkskrant, adding that unpreparedness by the U.S. intelligence services was “one of the reasons the Dutch access was so appreciated.”

Volkskrant said it spoke with 15 people over the course of the seven-month investigation. Six of those had direct knowledge of the Dutch access while the other nine are familiar with the intelligence community, the working methods of Russian hacking groups or the U.S.-Dutch international relationship, it said.

“Throwing coal into the furnace of anti-Russian hysteria that’s going on in America is not the most noble task,” Russia’s Peskov commented on the Dutch newspaper reports.

— With assistance by Stepan Kravchenko
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from ZNET

Dutch spies tipped off NSA that Russia was hacking the Democrats, new reports claim

Netherlands intelligence penetrated Russia's US election hackers and alerted US counterparts, sources say.

By David Meyer for Benelux | January 26, 2018 -- 11:09 GMT (03:09 PST) | Topic: Security

The Netherlands AIVD's access to the Russian hackers' networks yielded "crucial evidence" of Russian involvement in the Democratic leaks.

Netherlands newspaper de Volkskrant and the public broadcaster NOS reported on Thursday evening that AIVD hackers had penetrated the Russian operation back in the summer of 2014.

The Russian operation was what security researchers at CrowdStrike would later dub Cozy Bear, which, along with a separate group called Fancy Bear, emerged as the prime suspects for the hacking of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) during the 2016 presidential election campaign.

The emails covered communications spanning 2015 and the early months of 2016 and -- when they appeared on a site called DCLeaks and on Julian Assange's WikiLeaks in mid-2016 -- they greatly embarrassed the Democrats at a crucial time in the campaign.

Apart from reams of sensitive personal information, the emails demonstrated that the DNC had clearly favored the candidacy of Hillary Clinton during the Democratic primaries, and had undermined Bernie Sanders' bid to take on the Republicans from the left.

According to the new reports, the AIVD's access to the Russian hackers' networks yielded "crucial evidence" of Russian involvement in the DNC leaks, a matter that is now a key focus of special prosecutor Robert Mueller's investigation into possible collusion between Donald Trump's campaign and the Kremlin.

What exactly did the Dutch spies learn about Cozy Bear, also known as APT29? The precise details remain a mystery for now, but Thursday's reports draw on six US and Netherlands sources to argue that the Russian operation was responsible for attacks around the world since 2010.

Targets included "governments, energy corporations and telecom companies", some of them in the Netherlands.

Cozy Bear apparently comprised around 10 active agents at most times. The AIVD managed to hack into the security camera watching those entering and leaving the hackers' room in a university building, which allowed the Dutch to figure out that Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) was running the operation.

After the Dutch intelligence agency spotted the Russians hacking the US State Department and warned the NSA, a 24-hour-long battle between attackers and defenders reportedly ensued.

Before being booted out of the State Department's systems, the Russians managed to send a plausible-looking email to the White House, which in turn gave them access to servers holding some of then-president Barack Obama's emails.

In return for all this intelligence, the Americans reportedly sent some back to their Dutch counterparts, along with cake and flowers. However, the story has a sour ending.

With Trump denying any Russian support in his victory, US intelligence has been leaking like a sieve to prove the contrary. According to de Volkskrant, these leaks angered the Dutch, who didn't want their access -- now lost -- to be revealed, even if they were not specifically identified to the media as the source of all this crucial information.

As is the case with Israel and the UK, both of which have been burned by Trump himself after divulging intelligence to the US, the Dutch are now warier about sharing the secrets they find with the Americans.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/dutch-spie ... rts-claim/


from Reuters

Dutch intelligence agency spied on Russian hacking group: media

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - The Dutch intelligence agency AIVD spied on the Russian group believed to be behind the hack of the Democratic Party ahead of U.S. elections, local media reported on Thursday.

Current affairs program Nieuwsuur and newspaper de Volkskrant based the story on several anonymous intelligence sources in the Netherlands and the United States.

The Moscow-based group known as Cozy Bear is widely suspected of hacking the Democratic Party and is believed to be linked to the Russian government.

Agents with the AIVD gained access to the group’s headquarters and between 2014 and 2017 passed along information to the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency, the report said.

The Dutch intelligence may have contributed to the Federal Bureau of Investigation inquiry into alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election race, the report said.

The FBI and the AIVD were not immediately available for comment.

Reporting by Anthony Deutsch and Dustin Volz; Editing by James Dalgleish
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-neth ... SKBN1FE34W



Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit

By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and MAGGIE HABERMANJAN. 25, 2018
WASHINGTON — President Trump ordered the firing last June of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel overseeing the Russia investigation, according to four people told of the matter, but ultimately backed down after the White House counsel threatened to resign rather than carry out the directive.

The West Wing confrontation marks the first time Mr. Trump is known to have tried to fire the special counsel. Mr. Mueller learned about the episode in recent months as his investigators interviewed current and former senior White House officials in his inquiry into whether the president obstructed justice.


If it wasn’t clear before: McGahn has jumped ship


Seth Abramson‏
(THREAD) BREAKING NEWS (New York Times): We now know Trump already tried to fire Special Counsel Mueller—7 months ago. Many believed such an attempt would be a "red line" that would lead to impeachment. So what do we do now? I analyze that question and what this news means here.


1/ First, here's the NYT story. The upshot is that last June Donald Trump *ordered* White House Counsel Don McGahn to fire Special Counsel Bob Mueller. McGahn refused and threatened to quit if Trump went forward with the firing. Ultimately, Trump relented.

2/ Some will wonder why McGahn had enough sway with Trump to stop this from happening. That's a very good question to ask. First, note that McGahn was the attorney from Trump's winning presidential campaign, so the two have known each other and worked together for some time now.

3/ Next, we have to remember that McGahn is a potential witness—and, importantly, a potential witness *against Trump*—in the Trump-Russia investigation. McGahn was present at nearly all the key moments in the Obstruction fact-pattern that Mueller is considering referring to DOJ.

4/ If Mueller refers an Obstruction indictment to DOJ, DOJ will likely refer it to the House Judiciary Committee for consideration for articles of impeachment—and whether or not such articles come out of that committee, America already knows Obstruction is an impeachable offense.

5/ It's an impeachable offense because it already was for Bill Clinton—per the Republican Party and its votes on impeachment in the House. So while Trump may only have had an inkling of this last June, he likely knew enough to see that McGahn was someone whose loyalty he needed.

6/ McGahn is protected from ever testifying against Donald Trump on some issues—but *not* if the conduct he is to be questioned about involves criminal conduct by the president. Remember that Don McGahn does *not* represent Donald Trump, he represents the Office of the President.

7/ Definitionally and legally, criminal conduct is not considered within the recognized duties of a president, which means McGahn's role as an attorney for the Office of the President diverges from Trump's own legal interests as and when the president has acted illegally—as here.
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status ... 5810255872


REMEMBER: Trump, his lawyer John Dowd and his top adviser Kellyanne Conway ALL DENIED last August that Trump ever considered firing Mueller. (NYT just reported that Trump ordered Mueller's firing in June.)
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and the other story James Risen is discussing that I am tracking is the FSB arrest

Russia Biggest Cybersecurity Firm Head Arrested For Treason
Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:45 pm

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"From in or around 2014 to the present, Defendants knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing and defeating the lawful functions of the government through fraud and deceit for the purpose of interfering with the U.S. political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016."
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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby Jerky » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:39 pm

Reading through the indictment docs now... I think the floodgates are about to open, specifically re: Cyprus (write it down). Just a hunch based on a few names that are niggling some neurons in my memory banks, but... I think this trickle is about to become an all-devouring flood.

This is a good news Friday, that's for sure. And those who see it as, in any way, "vindicating" the Trump admin/org... wow. Wishful thinking much?

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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby BenDhyan » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:51 am

Is it possible the Russians have learned how to effectively troll Americans along the left - right wing dichotomy?

Earlier today, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein announced indictments against 13 Russian nationals and 3 Russian entities for meddling in the 2016 Presidential election, which began in 2014 before the President declared his candidacy. President Donald J. Trump has been fully briefed on this matter and is glad to see the Special Counsel’s investigation further indicates—that there was NO COLLUSION between the Trump campaign and Russia and that the outcome of the election was not changed or affected.

President Trump says, “it is more important than ever before to come together as Americans. We cannot allow those seeking to sow confusion, discord, and rancor to be successful. It’s time we stop the outlandish partisan attacks, wild and false allegations, and far-fetched theories, which only serve to further the agendas of bad actors, like Russia, and do nothing to protect the principles of our institutions. We must unite as Americans to protect the integrity of our democracy and our elections.”


https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-russia-indictments/

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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby 2012 Countdown » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:10 am

Um, you're kidding with that, no? The fucking Birther king muslim/mexican scapegoating prick is lecturing about making up shit and divisiveness? Projection as usual with the maggot.
Fuck off you fascist fuck.


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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby BenDhyan » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:58 am

Speaking of fascism, Paul Craig Robert's take..

Washington Threatens America and the World

When I look at news reports from whichever country, I see no awareness of the two most ominous developments in US history. One is the conspiracy between US security agencies, the US Department of Justice, the Democratic Party and the American print and TV media to overthrow the democratically elected president of the United States. With “Russiagate” we have been experiencing a coup against President Trump and American democracy. Although the Democrats’ Identity Politics cannot conceive of it, it is possible to be opposed to President Trump without believing that a police state coup against him is desirable.

The other ominous development is the just released US Nuclear Posture Review, which calls nuclear weapons “usable,” legitimizes their first use, and sets the stage for spending trillions of dollars acquiring more nuclear weapons when massive public needs go unmet and 10 percent of the existing US arsenal is sufficient to destroy all life on earth.

I have written about these extraordinary developments. See, for example, https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/0 ... npunished/ and https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/0 ... re-review/

As for the effect it has had, I might as well not have bothered. No government and no news organization of which I am aware has sounded the alarm that the CIA, FBI, DOJ, Democratic Party, and the entirety of the American print and TV media have been caught red-handed in a coup to overthrow the President of the United States, and nothing is being done about it. The coup cannot even be exposed, because the security agencies, media, and Democrats shout down the hard evidence. Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi were murdered on the basis of total lies, and now the President of the United States faces the same fate.

If the coup against Trump succeeds, the US will have made the full transition into a Gestapo Police State. America will have become the Fourth Reich.


https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/02/07/washington-threatens-america-world/

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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby 2012 Countdown » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:11 am

Well PCRoberts is a dumbass, imo. He went full Alex Jones. Never go full Alex Jones.

Go deep state! Take the fucking treasonous piece of shit down.
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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby Karmamatterz » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:35 pm

Ooooohhhhhh now things are heating up. "Fuck off you fascist fuck!" LOL :rofl2

SLAD, I've been trying to wade through all the indictments, but am having a hard time determining if the U.S. players involved knew in fact that they were dealing with Russians. You did highlight in yellow a few lines that seemed to indicate some (all?) did not know they were working with Russian trolls.

The guy who buys/sells identities doesn't really seem like a biggie. Identity theft is common and lurks in the dark webs 24/7/365.

So yeah, the Russians tried to influence the election. That seems obvious. Were they successful? Hard to tell. I've not seen any data that suggests how well their advertising programs or social media campaigns directly influenced a person to change their mind and vote for Trump instead of Hillary. I would even suggest that most people knew right away they would never vote for Hillary. Maybe some people were more galvanized about voting for Trump, but the media salivated like idiots for soundbite after soundbite from Trump. That easily could/did provide more help than the Russians would have. My job requires me to understand the effectiveness of advertising programs using data to make determinations. I've yet to see any real data that shows the effective results of any Russian meddling. The enormity of the task to dig back into all the Russian efforts and determine the outcome wouldn't be worth it. Chalk it up to a spot on troll job by those Pesky Russkies.

The best laugh about this is that the U.S. government for years has meddled and sabotaged plenty of elections in other countries. Now the joke is on us. It does seem the Russians are pretty clever about trolling Americans. It is in the better interests of Russia's government to sow discontent in any enemy. The media are in a lather along with the Left and spend so much time covering this that one has to wonder what they aren't covering instead? More soundbites on the Mueller investigation means fewer bites on Russian involvement in Syria....or elsewhere. We should be spending more time Focusing on Eurasia. Isn't Eurasia our real enemy? Thanks Orwell.
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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:46 pm

This is one of the more interestingly timed and located rallies.

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Re: 13 Russian Nationals Indicted by Grand Jury

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:10 pm

Hamilton 68 Dashboard, Russian-linked influence accounts are responding to Mueller's indictment by pushing the hashtags NoCollusion & NeverRomney, and clinging to Hannity's false claim that the indictment clears team Trump of potential wrongdoing.

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