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Elvis
perhaps RI is not the forum for them
liminalOyster
This right here is the pith essence of the most basic (and "non-partisan") caveat that direly needs to be appended to this board's rules.
10 Pipe Bombs Sent to Prominent Democrats, Trump critics
Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:55 am
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... =8&t=41377
Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:22 pm wrote:JackRiddler » Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:21 pm wrote:.
Elvis, your first 22 Nov post -- phenomenal work by Ames exposing Bellingcat.
Also, grateful to you for reproducing all those graphics here.
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Agreed. Ames' piece should not be surprising for anyone critically analyzing these events in the last ~2yrs.
While we may offer the benefit of the doubt that the historical citing/pasting (with minimal/no disclaimers, context, or caveats) of content from these hacks were inserted into RI threads, however ill-informed, as a means to offer a 'perspective' of events as they unfolded, I'd suggest that moving forward, ANY content by the following vermin should be flagged here as Blatant PROPAGANDA moving forward:
Bellingcat/Eliot Higgins
Michael Weiss
Aaron Zelin
Atlantic Council
They -- and others of their ilk -- are willing tools in the dissemination of mis/disinformation, with devastating consequences to the lives of many.
JRiddler: They may be assholes, liars, paid liars, self-interested liars, regime propagandists barely under cover, all that, but let's avoid the dehumanizing words and their historical evocations.
Elvis » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:05 pm wrote: I'm not asserting that "CNN=neoliberal=fascist=violation of RI rules" but am actually questioning that equation because it's not that simple (as you say). I am just trying to coax people into using some discernment and qualification when habitually posting articles that spread neoliberal philosophies.
To be clear, no one is going to be in trouble with me the moderator for posting or citing CNN (or USA Today or NYTimes or WaPo yada yada), I do it and will do it, but sometimes it clearly calls for context.
seemslikeadream » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:15 am wrote:there will not be another round of flare-ups....I've said my peace... I've made my clarifications ......I am done with this but thanks for all your clarification now I understand since you cleared that up and added what you say you should have said....I am not a mind reader....let's just chalk this up to a misunderstanding all around ...shall we?
My apologies to everyone...... it will not happen again
MacCruiskeen » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:46 pm wrote:seemslikeadream » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:00 am wrote:This is a discussion board with an ignore feature which was put in place for a reason. It is within a member’s right to utilize it. It is a very important function. It increases board comity by decreasing unwanted exchanges. It increases courtesy and considerate behavior towards others. It’s purpose is to resolve most of the hostility. I guess it might be scary for someone to simply stop acknowledging another member’s existence but we all have our crosses to bear.
No member can demand that they be taken off another member’s ignore list thus no member can demand that another member answer a question posed to them. Members are not obligated to respond to a foe. Using the Ignore Feature more often would make the job of the one mod we have left a bit easier.
It is a good feature one that I should take advantage of more often.
....and there is no limit on the number of foes one can have......the infinite wisdom of the creator
You completely missed the point, as usual. American Dream does not have me "on ignore", as he has just demonstrated. He simply ignores (or pretends to ignore) every poster who does not agree with him, or suck up to him, or endure his propaganda barrage without demurral or dissent.
One last time:
American Dream grossly misuses this Discussion Board as his own personal set of Private Data Dumps, as do you.
And then American Dream fills those multiple Private Data Dumps with truckloads of unfiltered reactionary warmongering propaganda from any mercenary corporate-media pundit with a pulpit, as do you.
And then American Dream refuses to explain or justify a single word of the stuff he regurgitates here, as do you. ("I didn't say it, I just posted it. I'm not responsible. I don't necessarily agree with it. But I might.")
And if anyone posting to this Discussion Board in good faith persists, even politely, in questioning such incessant gross misuses of this Discussion Board, then American Dream claims, ridiculously, that he is being bullied, as do you.
In the two-and-a-half years since the Great Trump Derangement began, the two of you have very nearly succeeded in killing this Discussion Board off. You haven't succeeded. Not quite. Not yet.
Please note: I have avoided addressing either of you for nearly the entirety of the last year, and I did not address you here. But you have made a point of addressing me here. So I am responding to you, politely, here. I have no obligation to respond to everything you assert or regurgitate here (an impossible task, in any case), but I do have a right to respond, to you, or to him or to any other poster. Because this is a Discussion Board.
Finally: I will tell you one strong personal reason why I object very vehemently to your ongoing irresponsible antics and to American Dream's: I live a hell of a lot closer to the Russian border than either of you do or ever will. Your American Dream will be Europe's nightmare. When you finally get the hot war with Russia you and he and Keith Olbermann and the CIA have been pushing for since no later than 2016, then I and my friends and family are going to feel the actual physical effects of that hot war much sooner and much more painfully than either of you ever will. (You will be "experiencing" it in exactly the same way you "experience" all of America's wars: on the telly, as a Spectacle, mediated by some mercenary corporate-media hack, such as Anderson Cooper.)
And that is to say nothing of my family in the UK, most of whom, including several young kids, live even closer (much closer) to Faslane than I do to the Russian border. That naval base will be a prime target, for very obvious reasons, should the New Cold War turn suddenly hot.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/23/snp-raises-safety-concerns-about-cuts-at-trident-naval-base#img-1
Enough.
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I'm going to copy and paste this post to the sticky thread "Rhetoric and the Art of Collaborative Discussion", because I have taken some time and trouble over it, I do not want it to sink without trace, and that is certainly the right thread for it. I want it there for reference, as something that can be linked to, if and whenever necessary. I will not waste one more second stating and re-stating what has been blatantly obvious to practically everyone here for years. It's also the thread where these incessant disingenuous complaints of "bullying" can be properly addressed and recognised for what they are. In the last few days alone, I've seen that preposterous accusation trotted out at least four times by three posters I need not name to you, because you know exactly who they are. This is not a playground. This is a Discussion Board.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/shutterstock_shutterstock_251930719.jpg
Enough is really enough.
Over and out.
And then American Dream fills those multiple Private Data Dumps with truckloads of unfiltered reactionary warmongering propaganda from any mercenary corporate-media pundit with a pulpit, as do you.
Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:56 pm wrote:.
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Certain members here have pasted content/articles by authors known to spread disinformation. Fact.
One can:
1. Avoid posting content by authors known to spread disinfo.
2. Apply appropriate disclaimers/caveats/context along with the posting.
3. Continue to paste such content here, as they have, but with the added awareness that others may call out the content as disinfo.
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