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American Dream » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:10 am wrote:They are bad news, them and their whole attack RI crew. That's for sure.
I love the victim posturing from those who are clearly quite aggressive
Wombaticus Rex » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:04 am wrote:Take Facebook as antipattern; as What Not To Do.
1) No memes. No .jpg posting. 99% of the .jpg content here disappears in 24 months time anyway, it's all hosted somewhere else.
2) No driveby sniping, no quoting 5 paragraphs of someone else's post to snark at them with a sentence. Pollution is pollution, noise is noise.
3) More discussion than headlines. We've got a "Current Events" AND a "Data Dump" now. Let's keep GD to actual discussion - moving conversations.
4) Dinner party conversations require a certain amount of restraint and decorum in order to function. Online discussions are little different.
Commitment to general discussion of the issues covered here will require a mutual commitment to leaning against the howling noise of our era. That is both difficult and very straightforward.
Wombaticus Rex » Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:55 pm wrote:Iamwhomiam » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:16 am wrote:Regarding #3, I was disappointed to read a few complaints about either the dearth of posts to discuss or that the majority of topics of discussions on the opening General Discussion page were produced by only two members. I notice those complaining about either of these issues rarely posted new topics for discussion themselves, and so, I would ask for folks to not fault others for their own shortcomings.
Love everyone here. Still chiming in mostly to disagree, my apologies.
Here, my disagreement is total. I think it's ridiculous to disdain our -- more eloquent, more thoughtful -- posters for not "contributing" enough or not, somehow, putting in enough effort. Nobody here has an obligation to be filling this feed with Everything They've Read So Far Today. Most especially: nobody here has an obligation to keep up with that shit, either.
General Discussion should be for discussions. Not an auction block.Iamwhomiam » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:16 am wrote:"Mostly," Wombat, 'cause I'm not sure if you mean all pics. There are photos with different file extensions, other than .jpg, right?
No, I would definitely recommend a Cleansing Fire Jihad against cluttering this up with image content. What good is most of it? Paul Laffoley was trying to tell us something. 100% of online articles are paired with stock files that editors think will increase "engagement." What the fuck does a photograph of Dick Cheney add to an article about Dick Cheney?
Belligerent Savant » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:03 pm wrote:.
Worth re-posting, from a few pages back:Wombaticus Rex » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:04 am wrote:Take Facebook as antipattern; as What Not To Do.
1) No memes. No .jpg posting. 99% of the .jpg content here disappears in 24 months time anyway, it's all hosted somewhere else.
2) No driveby sniping, no quoting 5 paragraphs of someone else's post to snark at them with a sentence. Pollution is pollution, noise is noise.
3) More discussion than headlines. We've got a "Current Events" AND a "Data Dump" now. Let's keep GD to actual discussion - moving conversations.
4) Dinner party conversations require a certain amount of restraint and decorum in order to function. Online discussions are little different.
Commitment to general discussion of the issues covered here will require a mutual commitment to leaning against the howling noise of our era. That is both difficult and very straightforward.Wombaticus Rex » Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:55 pm wrote:Iamwhomiam » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:16 am wrote:Regarding #3, I was disappointed to read a few complaints about either the dearth of posts to discuss or that the majority of topics of discussions on the opening General Discussion page were produced by only two members. I notice those complaining about either of these issues rarely posted new topics for discussion themselves, and so, I would ask for folks to not fault others for their own shortcomings.
Love everyone here. Still chiming in mostly to disagree, my apologies.
Here, my disagreement is total. I think it's ridiculous to disdain our -- more eloquent, more thoughtful -- posters for not "contributing" enough or not, somehow, putting in enough effort. Nobody here has an obligation to be filling this feed with Everything They've Read So Far Today. Most especially: nobody here has an obligation to keep up with that shit, either.
General Discussion should be for discussions. Not an auction block.Iamwhomiam » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:16 am wrote:"Mostly," Wombat, 'cause I'm not sure if you mean all pics. There are photos with different file extensions, other than .jpg, right?
No, I would definitely recommend a Cleansing Fire Jihad against cluttering this up with image content. What good is most of it? Paul Laffoley was trying to tell us something. 100% of online articles are paired with stock files that editors think will increase "engagement." What the fuck does a photograph of Dick Cheney add to an article about Dick Cheney?
Wombaticus Rex » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:59 pm wrote:Edit: per the notion SLAD runs some Irish terror regime that intimidates everyone into silence, well, I am skeptical on that front
Jeff » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:18 pm wrote:There's no way this won't sound anodyne, but isn't the board big enough for everyone?
I won't pretend to be up to speed on all of the disagreements here, but maybe that's good. The issues are maybe irrelevant to my point, which is that you don't all need to be pals, but maybe you do need to give each other some space.
I don't want anybody banned or the board to be heavily moderated. In return, all I'd like is some basic, online courtesy. Like not flooding someone's thread, or driving discussion off topic, or making vicious personal attacks. That kind of stuff.
Jeff out.
JackRiddler » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:15 am wrote:It's time for this board to get the one moderator or the other, and settle these questions. It's a fucking joke that Wells pays the little bit of rent so that we have the equivalent of a repeater station (with maybe 10 readers?) for whatever the day's prime disinfo is on MSNBC or Google News. Either the decisions are reinstated and the flood ends or the rest of us can go away. Which is it going to be?
JackRiddler » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:54 am wrote:Semantical play is an essential tool of sophistry. This is why semantics matter:
1. I don't think and have not said SLAD is purposefully spreading disinformation. To divine purpose is to attribute motive, which is unknowable to me. This is yet another variant on the "personalization" narrative, as in the frequent claim that I am "attacking" SLAD, whom I do not know, when I am only describing the username's actual activity on the board. Many honest people have fallen for disinformation campaigns in the past. Many honest people specifically have been taken in by the #Russiagate complex and its current successor efforts. I cannot know an anonymous username's purpose.
2. Mere spreading is not the problem. The issue is flooding: relentless, by all forms, by thread proliferation and miles of uncommented copy-paste of daily bullshit lifted directly from corporate outlets that literally reach 10,000 times the readers as this forum, the output of which all here already know. It's like MSNBC and DNC have a local scold crew who will seek out any untoward statements and promptly reply with 25 screens of copy paste.
3. So I am saying SLAD has been flooding the board with a particular form of disinformation for years, specifically since the start of the #Russiagate psyop campaign.
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JackRiddler » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:15 am wrote:You [SLAD] should be more careful about constantly invoking a meaningless piece of "leave me alone" boilerplate from the same Jeff Wells who every day spends substantial time on other outlets angrily trashing exactly the same disinformation you flood this board with. I don't think you'd be too happy if you actually get him interested in this board again and examining the crap you do here.
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