Here are the posts moved from the "Whither the Democrats?" thread.
slad suggested I move them to the Quantum Entanglement thread, and I thought that was a good idea, but I decided on Free Revolutionary Art, because it feels like making art, reformatting and restoring the posts. And what is Free Revolutionary Art, if it isn't a creative dialogue between friends.
I think there may be one or two posts missing from earlier in the Whither the Democrats thread, since things shifted back a bit, but I'm not sure where in the six previous pages those missing posts were located. I did get the bulk of the deleted posts though, about two pages worth.
I'm breaking the exchange into a few posts here, probably two more about the same length as this one, I think. Don't know for sure, I haven't finished cleaning everything up. And I'm starting a few posts back from the ones that are missing from the thread, so the exchange doesn't start in a place that makes no sense.
dada » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:55 am
It's the non-voters fault!
Incredible. You finally caught us. The real culprits behind the curtain.
I'm being peaceful, but that doesn't mean I'm going to let you walk all over me! haha
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seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:58 am
if you do not vote you get what you deserve ......good thing black people decided to laid their lives on the line to vote...but maybe you think they should have stayed in the fields
maybe my grandmother should have been satisfied not to be able to vote at all
white men
so easy for them to say no need to vote
it is just fine for the pres to call a black woman a dog ...you know what a female dog is don't you?
it is perfectly fine for a pres to use the word n****er
it is perfectly fine for a pres to kidnap brown kids
it is perfectly fine for a pres to grab women by their p****ies
who is he going to come for next?
hopefully it won't be you.....for you are comfortable correct? I can understand that
About 100 million people couldn’t be bothered to vote in 2016........It's the non-voters fault!......YES IT IS!
It is the non-voters fault that we have a racist for a president
A 100 million people had the power in their hands and they were too lazy to use it
in 1970 I did not have the right to chose.....just 40 years ago.....good thing women fought for the right to vote
funny thing some women really don't want to be bare foot and pregnant
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dada » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:33 am
Nice spin, turning it around on the non-voter. Kind of like blaming the victim.
But don't blame the non-voter, just blame me. Because it's nobody's fault but mine.
Blaming the non-voter probably won't work as a political strategically, though. I don't think it will get you any votes.
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seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:44 am
it is not spin it is reality
100 million ...REALITY
but you have no worries so you do not vote..I can see that
yea I am blaming the people that do not vote...maybe they should have voted in the primaries
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dada » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:51 am
Ah, truth and truthiness, the question of the hour. What are the facts, and what is the truth. And it's a cosmic struggle, with the future hanging in the balance. The future is for who knows the difference.
Hey, I vote sometimes. That's my goddess given right.
George Carlin said If you vote, you have no right to complain.
I always liked that one.
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seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:53 am
so what FACTS are you disputing
you can take your cosmic and not vote fine by me..apparently you have nothing to loose
if women took your lead we would have the right to our own bodies
blacks would still be slaves
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dada » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:57 am
Not disputing any facts. I already took the blame for everything, what more do you want?
I gotta go print newspaper, back soon. We can continue this later if you want.
I'm actually feeling nothing but cordial towards you, slad.
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seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 am
I'm actually feeling nothing but cordial towards you also dada
what happens when you can't get the paper for that news? I really want you to have paper
47% of republicans want to stop you from printing anything
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dada » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:03 am
When we can't get the paper, we will stop. This is only natural.
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seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:06 am
this is not natural ...it is trump made
Trump’s Tariffs on Canadian Newsprint Hasten Local Newspapers’ Demise
The printing and distribution plant for The Gazette in Janesville, Wis., which has cut its staff and started using narrower paper to save on newsprint costs. Trump administration tariffs on newsprint have increased costs for newspapers across the country.CreditAngela Major/The Janesville Gazette, via Associated Press
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/us/politics/newsprint-tariffs-newspapers-trump.htmllocal papers are so important
Do you consider yourself local?
If 25 million would have voted in the primaries maybe Bernie would be president
here's what happens when people vote
Earnell Lucas defeats Richard Schmidt in Milwaukee County sheriff's race
Schmidt could not shed the mantle of his close association with former Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. and his role as the department's second in command since 2010.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/08/14/milwaukee-county-sheriff-schmidt-lucas-ostrowski-battling-badge/952194002/people died so you could vote...they thought it was kinda important
how could you not vote against climate change deniers?
Democrats are not the party of racists ...there is a difference.....fun idea try living in a country where you can not vote ....where you are not allowed even the choice
this idea that the parties are both the same is bullshit...unless you have no one to protect then you can have your fascists
my great grandparents knew what it was like not to be able to vote.....they haunt me
purity can be fun
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dada » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:56 pm
Yes, I know what is up in the newspaper industry already. Like a job in any field, if you pay attention you end up picking up on most goings on just by osmosis.
Just the facts - who did what when - is just that: the facts. Truth is what those facts mean.
For example, a hundred million non-voters is a fact. But what that fact means changes, given different contexts.
A hundred million non-voters, that's about half of American voters, I think. So half the voters chose to abstain, a quarter voted Donald, and a quarter went with Democrats, Inc. Generalizing, using big round numbers here to make a point. Context gives meaning to facts.
"If you don't program your mind, someone else will," as someone else said. I forget his name, some Irish programmer. O'leary, I think it were.
Who (or what) is providing context and meaning for your facts? Half voted, half didn't. Is it the abstainers, or the participators who caused the mess. Which half is to blame?
(Trick question. We already know who is to blame. The original strange attractor, spirit-avatar of the goddess, animating the empty body of the qbert magister like an irresistible, almost unbearably sexy living corpse.)
Hi.
edited to add: "If 25 million would have voted in the primaries maybe Bernie would be president"
If "ifs" and "ands" were pots and pans, there wad be nae need for tinkers. - O'leary
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