Re: 10 Pipe Bombs Sent to Prominent Democrats, Trump critics
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:21 pm
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MacC, is there any act of murder by an individual you aren't deciding must actually be a false-flag plot? (I'm only mimicking your question to me.)
Does it occur to you that the U.S. is actually several stages into the beginnings of a new Nazi movement, just like many parts of Europe? Do you really want to trivialize it?
It would be, if that were so. It very likely is not.
It is apropos if, as is a thousand times more likely, both acts were incited by the present atmosphere of apocalyptic right-wing panic, and the frequent incitements to commit violence against right-wing targets such as immigrants and refugees, Muslims and Latinos, "liberals," certain avatars of "Democrats," imagined Qanon plotters, and the Jews in charge of everything.
It is also apropos because the two acts merge by being in the same corporate media cycle. Inevitably. How one is received is affected by the presence of the other. This forces us to see a pattern, an association that may or may not apply. That would always be so, although in this case, I think there is a common pattern. But then, I'm stuck in this crazy loop of seriously believing present-day Nazis and their close analogues exist, and are a serious and growing murderous thing.
By exist, furthermore, I do not mean simply as a top-down action to "divide and rule" or play "ordo ab chao" by some covert elite (though doubtless this element has existed in the past and may play a role now), but as a genuine if small minority among the people, of course largely encouraged by the top-down propaganda of American Wahhabi outlets like FOX and Sinclair. Of this minority, the organized and mobilizable are still only in the thousands -- depending on the extent to which NRA membership could be mobilized explicitly -- but the atomized are in the millions. Of the latter, thousands are potentially capable of self-actuating violence that is encouraged by rhetorical and explicit incitement of the kind furnished by Trump since Day 1 of his campaign.
This, of course, dwarfs any model of the "Islamist" threat in the United States that has received such attention (and been the subject of so much energy to entrap and imprison patsies). But it is usually obscured and even catered to, normalized, by the broader culture and the corporate media. I am certainly not advocating an expansion of the surveillance and repressive apparatus. (Although I think it's fine to point out when its resources are overwhelmingly directed at imaginary leftist threats, undocumented people, and the continuing war on drugs/mass incarceration complex, while ignoring or even protecting the right-wing supremacist groups pledged to violence.) An unapologetic general acknowledgment of the existence of this violent white-supremacist and Nazi-in-spirit far right, and an end to the false equivalence narratives and coddling of white fragility that enable it, would be a wondrous start, and rather more pressing than the vast exaggerations about "identity politics" that the liberals who get the biggest platforms pimp out daily.
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MacC, is there any act of murder by an individual you aren't deciding must actually be a false-flag plot? (I'm only mimicking your question to me.)
Does it occur to you that the U.S. is actually several stages into the beginnings of a new Nazi movement, just like many parts of Europe? Do you really want to trivialize it?
Rory » Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:47 pm wrote:Conflating these two separate events is apropos due to them both being part of the same Gladio Op/October Suprisa
It would be, if that were so. It very likely is not.
It is apropos if, as is a thousand times more likely, both acts were incited by the present atmosphere of apocalyptic right-wing panic, and the frequent incitements to commit violence against right-wing targets such as immigrants and refugees, Muslims and Latinos, "liberals," certain avatars of "Democrats," imagined Qanon plotters, and the Jews in charge of everything.
It is also apropos because the two acts merge by being in the same corporate media cycle. Inevitably. How one is received is affected by the presence of the other. This forces us to see a pattern, an association that may or may not apply. That would always be so, although in this case, I think there is a common pattern. But then, I'm stuck in this crazy loop of seriously believing present-day Nazis and their close analogues exist, and are a serious and growing murderous thing.
By exist, furthermore, I do not mean simply as a top-down action to "divide and rule" or play "ordo ab chao" by some covert elite (though doubtless this element has existed in the past and may play a role now), but as a genuine if small minority among the people, of course largely encouraged by the top-down propaganda of American Wahhabi outlets like FOX and Sinclair. Of this minority, the organized and mobilizable are still only in the thousands -- depending on the extent to which NRA membership could be mobilized explicitly -- but the atomized are in the millions. Of the latter, thousands are potentially capable of self-actuating violence that is encouraged by rhetorical and explicit incitement of the kind furnished by Trump since Day 1 of his campaign.
This, of course, dwarfs any model of the "Islamist" threat in the United States that has received such attention (and been the subject of so much energy to entrap and imprison patsies). But it is usually obscured and even catered to, normalized, by the broader culture and the corporate media. I am certainly not advocating an expansion of the surveillance and repressive apparatus. (Although I think it's fine to point out when its resources are overwhelmingly directed at imaginary leftist threats, undocumented people, and the continuing war on drugs/mass incarceration complex, while ignoring or even protecting the right-wing supremacist groups pledged to violence.) An unapologetic general acknowledgment of the existence of this violent white-supremacist and Nazi-in-spirit far right, and an end to the false equivalence narratives and coddling of white fragility that enable it, would be a wondrous start, and rather more pressing than the vast exaggerations about "identity politics" that the liberals who get the biggest platforms pimp out daily.
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