Because of the censorship of RadFems by Wordpress I have been looking into Jay Dyer who was banned by WP around the time that Alex Jones was censored, I believe.
I wasn’t familiar with Jay Dyer. He covers conspiracy-related material so I’m sure some here are familiar with him. He is a regular guest on Red Ice radio which I also hadn’t followed.
The left is in more trouble than I thought. When Jay Dyer riffs on current trends and events he expresses alt right sentiments (anti-Feminist, anti-immigrant...) but he is an excellent researcher and if you just follow his investigations into Hollywood and the media, you might not realize he’s alt-right because he’s intelligent, well-spoken, and does a good job of arguing his points.
Looking into him led me back to RI and to various old threads on Red Ice (Radio, productions...) There are some interesting comments by Jerky, Jakell and others about the intellectual wing of the hard right. I will reproduce one, by Jerky, here:
Jerky wrote:
Jerky » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:47 am"]Check the dates on the comments 8bit. This is a pretty old thread, which I kicked back because I was interested in jakell's earlier reaction to my claim that the "intellectual" wing of the hard right was gaining in influence and prominence - a fact that I believe is pretty much undeniable at this point. He said he didn't want to discuss it here because, I guess, we're "incapable" of discussing such subjects rationally (i.e. most of us refuse to lick jackboots or treat fascism as though it were akin to, say, mainstream political party affiliation, or self-proclaimed "liberalism" or "conservatism"). Anyway, most of us know Red Ice turned a long time ago, but the fact remains (and the point, at least on my end, is) that it wasn't ALWAYS that way. Furthermore, its "turn" came around the same time a lot of other "conspiracy" or "woo" related sites also went full fascist. This, I think, is an intriguing subject, worthy of deeper study and further inquiry.
One thing I'd like to do is make a list of the heaviest hitters among those sites - like Red Ice - that weren't fascist... until suddenly they were. Alex Jones' operations certainly fit the bill. Icke started shifting from Reptilians to "Rothschild Khazar Mafia Zionism" (dogwhistle overload) around the same time, too.
Can anybody else name others? If y'all come up with a list, I promise to do the Wayback Machine digging to trace the origins and timing of their fascist turn, after which we might be able to link it to some wider cultural shift (altho it certainly happened well after 9/11, IIRC, too far after 9/11 to blame it entirely on that catalyst).
Unfortunately this fascinating and important exploration was derailed, by Pizzagate and by RI sniping and silencing of conflicting viewpoints. This is the kind of discussion (about Red Ice) that I haven’t seen happen anywhere but RI and why I think losing this site would be a great loss.
