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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby Cordelia » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:34 am

thrulookingglass » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:16 pm wrote:Nancy Pelosi isn't slightly evil, she is pure evil. Don't doubt for a minute that she isn't aware of the task she is performing. She is perhaps the most right wing person in all Washington DC. She is the boot on the neck of true leftist progressive agenda. Her existence is to support the capitalist model, to foster the climate of war and imperialism, and to maintain the United States's superiority by subverting every other nations. Not only that, Nancy splenetically enjoys the salary delivered unto her hands for supporting the corporatocracy that is the American Empire. These 'middle of the road' democrats are nothing but a dam on evolvement.


^^^I agree (though not sure about pure).

WAPO piece below dutifully groomed Pelosi’s legend by adding her mothering skills to offset her Superwoman/Politician image a bit. The empress honed her skills raising five children before applying her talons tactics to her colleagues and underlings in Washington.

“A few weeks later Pelosi’s daughter Alexandra appeared on CNN to give America some insight into her mother’s lethal tact. “She’ll cut your head off,” Alexandra said, “and you won’t even know you’re bleeding.”



‘Makes going to work look easy’: Decades before she was House speaker, Nancy Pelosi had an even harder job


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Nancy Pelosi fixes the hair of granddaughter Bella Kaufman in the Speaker's Office on Capitol Hill. Pelosi, a mother of five and a grandmother of nine, says that being a parent shaped her in the years before she got into politics. (Melina Mara/The Washington Post)

February 12, 2019
By Ellen McCarthy

Last month, Nancy Corinne Prowda was watching television when her mother, Nancy Pelosi, came on the screen. Pelosi had disinvited President Trump from giving his State of the Union speech in the House while the government was shut down, and the president responded by effectively canceling her planned trip to a war zone. So, a reporter asked, was Trump trying to get revenge?

“I don’t think the president would be that petty,” Pelosi deadpanned. “Do you?”

Prowda immediately had flashbacks to her childhood. “I knew the face,” she says. It was the face that used to greet Prowda and her siblings if they had, say, skipped out on chores or sneaked into a movie they weren’t allowed to see. Pelosi’s reprimands were rarely loud, but often withering.

You children wouldn’t have done that, Pelosi would say. Calmly, knowingly.

It made you feel worse because of course we had done it,” Prowda recalls. “She has a way of delivering her message to the intended without rubbing their face in it — without directly telling them why she’s so disappointed. It’d be better if she’d just get mad at you.”

Long before she presided over the U.S. House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi presided over a house of five children in San Francisco. Back then she was just another outnumbered parent, trying to figure out how to rein in a brood of wily kids using a combination of love, leverage and Jedi mom tricks.

There was no master plan to develop skills that would later be useful in politics. It just happened, day in and day out, as she toiled in the experience that she saw — and still sees — as the most exciting, exhausting, important work of her life.

Pelosi credits that chapter of life with making her into the leader she is today: perhaps the most powerful woman in American history and the first to hold the speaker’s gavel. And she hopes that society will begin to view parenting as “a gold star” on any professional résumé.

“That’s one of the hardest things,” she says. “Makes going to work look easy, doesn’t it?”

Now, at 78, Pelosi is still at work, and her political skills and parenting instincts are being put to their greatest test. A stubborn, capricious Trump stalks the White House. The new Congress is teeming with energetic, defiant youngsters. The house is divided. And it’s Pelosi’s job, once again, to keep it from devolving into chaos.

The common version of Pelosi's origin story focuses on the future speaker not as a mother but as a daughter. She was born Nancy D'Alesandro, seventh child and only daughter of Anunciata and Thomas D'Alesandro Jr. "Big Tommy" was a Democratic congressman and then three-time mayor of Baltimore. At their home in Little Italy, Nancy learned what it meant to dole out and call in favors, to serve a community and take care of constituents.

But Pelosi insists her parents weren’t her biggest influence. “I was really forged by my kids,” she has said.

Nancy married her college sweetheart, Paul Pelosi, in 1963, and the couple wasted no time: A year later, they had their first child. By the end of 1970, they had five — four daughters and a son.

There was no flood of stories about the effect being a parent had on Paul D. Ryan and John Boehner when they took the gavel. But if a House speaker spent a decade of their early life as a football quarterback or Navy SEAL, those years would certainly be mined for meaning and relevance. Pelosi’s leadership training took place inside her home, and the experience, she insists, fundamentally changed her.

“I became so energized and efficient in the use of time and willing to delegate, to the children, responsibilities,” she says. “It really shapes you. There’s no question.”

MORE...https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... 6842ff786c
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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby Cordelia » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:48 am

stickdog99 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:52 pm wrote:

Like Dianne Feinstein, Gavin Newsom, and Kamala Harris, she cut her political teeth working against true progressives and for the Chamber of Commerce in highly liberal San Francisco. It's a proving ground for learning to mouth the platitudes while delivering whatever the donor class desires.


Pelosi’s early (where she more literally cut her teeth) formative years were spent in Little Italy during her father’s career as a Democratic operative in Baltimore's political machine. Pelosi’s ambitions and personal financial goals (no bribes/pay-offs in white envelopes for her!) were a few steps up; some lessons she learned and what she seems to have wanted to leave far behind in an interesting article from late 2017...

Nancy Pelosi Und Power

The House Minority Leader is known for iron fisted party discipline and intimidation. Where did she learn to do that so effectively?

By Dan Gifford, Neighbor | Dec 9, 2017 12:53 am ET | Updated Dec 9, 2017 1:34 am ET

The answer is, her iron fisted daddy and some of his friends.

Her daddy was Thomas "Big Tommy" D'Alesandro, Jr., a five term Democrat US Congressman from Maryland and three term Mayor of Baltimore for whom I gofered for a time while in high school.

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That's seven year old Nancy with her father during his 1947 mayoral inauguration.

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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby thrulookingglass » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:19 pm

You're right about 'pure' evil of course, but I think we're all swinging the same axe. The honor of pure evil belongs to Satan who is busy teaching colored musicians 440Hz tunings, spraying Round-up on cancer fighting edible dandelion greens and shortening hem lines on women's skirts once again. Does P,G&E back her office still? What a shill. She lacks all chutzpah! A penny today towards a terrible tomorrow.
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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby RocketMan » Mon May 06, 2019 7:34 am

Pelosi is seeming more sclerotic by the week... ughhh. Dare I say removed from reality.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/04/us/p ... elosi.html

Pelosi Warns Democrats: Stay in the Center or Trump May Contest Election Results

Couple of choice cuts:

Sitting in her office with its panoramic view of the National Mall, Ms. Pelosi — the de facto head of the Democratic Party until a presidential nominee is selected in 2020 — offered Democrats her “coldblooded” plan for decisively ridding themselves of Mr. Trump: Do not get dragged into a protracted impeachment bid that will ultimately get crushed in the Republican-controlled Senate, and do not risk alienating the moderate voters who flocked to the party in 2018 by drifting too far to the left.

“Own the center left, own the mainstream,” Ms. Pelosi, 79, said.

“Our passions were for health care, bigger paychecks, cleaner government — a simple message,” Ms. Pelosi said of the 40-seat Democratic pickup last year that resulted in her second ascent to the speakership. “We did not engage in some of the other exuberances that exist in our party” — a reference to some of the most ambitious plans advocated by the left wing of her party and some 2020 candidates, including “Medicare for all” and the Green New Deal, which she has declined to support.


Ms. Pelosi also shared some thoughts about the expansive and expanding Democratic field of presidential candidates. Joseph R. Biden Jr. “took off because people know him,” she said. “They trust him.”

When asked whether Mr. Biden would pay a political price for his grilling of Anita F. Hill during the 1991 confirmation hearings for Justice Clarence Thomas, Ms. Pelosi shook her head in the negative and waved a hand dismissively.
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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby stickdog99 » Tue May 07, 2019 1:47 am

RocketMan » 06 May 2019 11:34 wrote:Pelosi is seeming more sclerotic by the week... ughhh. Dare I say removed from reality.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/04/us/p ... elosi.html

Pelosi Warns Democrats: Stay in the Center or Trump May Contest Election Results

Couple of choice cuts:

Sitting in her office with its panoramic view of the National Mall, Ms. Pelosi — the de facto head of the Democratic Party until a presidential nominee is selected in 2020 — offered Democrats her “coldblooded” plan for decisively ridding themselves of Mr. Trump: Do not get dragged into a protracted impeachment bid that will ultimately get crushed in the Republican-controlled Senate, and do not risk alienating the moderate voters who flocked to the party in 2018 by drifting too far to the left.

“Own the center left, own the mainstream,” Ms. Pelosi, 79, said.

“Our passions were for health care, bigger paychecks, cleaner government — a simple message,” Ms. Pelosi said of the 40-seat Democratic pickup last year that resulted in her second ascent to the speakership. “We did not engage in some of the other exuberances that exist in our party” — a reference to some of the most ambitious plans advocated by the left wing of her party and some 2020 candidates, including “Medicare for all” and the Green New Deal, which she has declined to support.


Ms. Pelosi also shared some thoughts about the expansive and expanding Democratic field of presidential candidates. Joseph R. Biden Jr. “took off because people know him,” she said. “They trust him.”

When asked whether Mr. Biden would pay a political price for his grilling of Anita F. Hill during the 1991 confirmation hearings for Justice Clarence Thomas, Ms. Pelosi shook her head in the negative and waved a hand dismissively.


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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby Grizzly » Tue May 07, 2019 1:35 pm

If Barthes can forgive me, “What the public wants is the image of passion Justice, not passion Justice itself.”
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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue May 07, 2019 3:00 pm

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Nothing revelatory to the eyes wide open in this forum, but it merits a spot in this thread:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... ty-827782/



Reactions to the former vice president joining the 2020 race prove nobody knows what electability means anymore

By Matt Taibbi

The premise of a lot of these stories is that Biden, as a white male politician and longtime political insider, looks like an outdated idea of “electability.” Multiple outlets described it as a “coded” term, worrying that calling Biden or another white male candidate like Pete Buttigieg “electable” might be a “capitulation to American voters’ worst biases,” as Slate put it.

If this is the end of “electability,” it won’t be a moment too soon. Since I started covering presidential campaigns in the 2004 race, I’ve loathed the term. That year, John Kerry was chosen as the nominee in large part because, as Matt Bai put it in the New York Times, “electability became the issue itself” in the Democratic primary.

The 2003-2004 campaign press pounded home to Democratic voters that Kerry was the most “electable” candidate, and part of that calculus surely was that he was white and male. Additionally he had a military background, and boasted an incoherent enough position on the Iraq war that party leaders thought he’d be immune to “soft on defense” charges. We saw how that turned out.

I don’t think “electability” is being retired this year just because it has outdated race and gender connotations. It also speaks to a level of chaos and indecision across the top levels of the political establishment.

Once upon a time, “electability” was the most transparent code word in campaign reporting. People thought it meant all sorts of things, but really it just meant the inside choice, i.e. the candidate who would raise the most money.

If you were “electable,” you were probably also the winner of the so-called “invisible primary,” the smoke-filled-room/pre-primary choosing process described in the academic study “The Party Decides” in 2008.

The “invisible primary” supposedly wrapped up about two years out from Election Day, by which time core constituent groups and donors decided upon a desired nominee. Money and endorsements flowed from there. Once these decisions had been made, the campaign press usually followed, embracing whomever political insiders told them was the “real” candidate.


The odious part was not just that the term tended to favor politicians who looked a certain way (“looks presidential” and “Kennedyesque” were other code words for “tall white guy”). It was also used to nudge voters away from candidates who had non-traditional policy stances or were different in any way.

Any candidate with the slightest anti-war or anti-corporate tendencies, or who was too unyielding on labor issues, tended for years to have the yoke of “unelectability” hung on them sooner or later.

Howard Dean in 2003 was an early party favorite whose anti-war stance on Iraq and reliance on small, web-based donations quickly earned him the “not electable” tab. Dennis Kucinich was a level below “unelectable,” i.e. “fringe.” Bernie Sanders earned the tab repeatedly in 2016. Even earlier this year, Elizabeth Warren was pelted with op-eds slamming her as a candidate with “electability” problems.

At the coverage level, this is a gross process. Reporters batter candidates who don’t have giant war chests full of cash with questions. They’ll ask, “If you can’t win, why are you running? Are you trying to send a message to the real contender? Are you hoping to affect the platform? Aren’t you too liberal to win in the general? Are you positioning yourself for four years from now?” And so on.

Voters would pick up on this framing and rank candidates in their minds. For a candidate to overcome this, he or she would have to get past this unconscious sorting process.

In 2008, for instance, the campaign season began with Hillary Clinton owning such a substantial lead that she was routinely described as the “inevitable” candidate. As Barack Obama started to rise in the polls and raise unexpectedly large sums of money, Democratic aides began to push new arguments, telling reporters Obama was a lightweight who in a general election would be considered too liberal and couldn’t possibly win with Middle America because – well, that was unspoken, for a while.

As the race tightened, the Clinton campaign began to be more and more explicit, with Hillary finally saying out loud that Obama was struggling because his “support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again.”

Obama in 2008 exposed electability as a bit of a con game. Voters, it turned out, didn’t like to be treated like sled dogs, told to mush on command. They could be more independent and more open-minded than politicians or pundits asserted. Obama won a lot of votes in places experts insisted he could not. In 2008, he outperformed both John Kerry and Al Gore overall among white voters (although those gains were almost all in the north and west).

“Electability” has had poor results on both sides of the aisle. In 2012, Republican voters were told Mitt Romney would be more electable against Barack Obama. He wasn’t. Four years later, electability was at the core of Hillary Clinton’s argument in 2016, and that was disaster as well.

Heading into 2020, it’s clear neither the press nor the Democratic Party leadership has any idea what electability means on any level anymore. There’s obviously a ton of confusion as to how to parse the results of 2016.

Does it mean a candidate with more progressive politics would be more electable against Trump? Does it mean, as Slate put it, that some Democrats will be “too spooked—or too sexist—to nominate a woman again”? Or is Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post right, and Biden, who does check the traditional boxes of electability as pundits used to define the term, is the better choice to accomplish the most important task, beating Trump?
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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby stickdog99 » Tue May 07, 2019 4:26 pm

Hmmmm. Why are DNC Democrats far more concerned about getting their "base" to knee at the big corporate donors' altar than they are about winning elections?

"You must self-triangulate your own political views so as not to 'alienate' the mythical middle (managers) with insane promises of what all other first world nations provide their citizenry at a far lower cost! It is just too important to stop Trump from getting elected to vote for the candidates who best mirror your own political beliefs!"

Oh, so that "strategy" totally backfired in 2016 because voters were actually so unhappy with the status quo that they were willing to back an obvious con artist blowhard buffoon just because he pretended to run against the status quo?

"You must self-triangulate your own political views so as not to 'alienate' the mythical middle (managers) with insane promises of what all other first world nations provide their citizenry at a far lower cost! It is just too important o stop Trump from getting REelected to vote for the candidates who best mirror your own political beliefs!"

Rinse and repeat over most of our entire lifetimes.

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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby Grizzly » Sat May 11, 2019 6:48 pm

Fuck Pelosi ...
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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby RocketMan » Sun May 12, 2019 6:32 am



Wow, this is a positive development. Challenging Pelosi head on, unabashedly.

The DNC comes across as a pretty ruthless old-style machine... Just plain ugly.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ru ... -campaigns

Presidential campaigns seeking to gain access to the Democratic Party's 50-state voter file, a crucial database that costs $175,000 to purchase, must also agree to a strict set of terms requiring candidates to raise money for the Democratic National Committee.

Across the field of 21 candidates, some Democrats view the conditions as overly restrictive for a resource that presidential campaigns rely on daily as a foundation for everything from field organizing to analytics. The terms — meant to help strengthen the DNC ahead of the general election in support of the eventual nominee — are costly, time-consuming, and specific.

The voter file contains pools of data about millions of voters. Campaigns use the database as a foundation for their own data as they identify and track support over time within their own portals.

In addition to the $175,000 price tag on the voter file, according to a copy of the agreement obtained by BuzzFeed News, candidates who purchase the voter file must also agree to appear at one or more DNC fundraising events every three months during the duration of their bid for the nomination. At each fundraising-event appearance — dubbed "signature event(s)" in the term sheet — candidates will also be asked to record a short video in support of the DNC.

Campaigns must also sign at least one DNC fundraising email every three months, with donations split evenly between the campaign and the DNC. Separate from the emails to the DNC’s list, campaigns will also participate in a partywide fundraising day, slated for Aug. 7, 2019, sending an email to their own list. Those donations, too, will be split equally.


According to the term sheet, candidates who use the voter file will continue raising money for the party even after they drop out of the race, sending three additional emails to the DNC list before Election Day in 2020.
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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby stickdog99 » Sun May 12, 2019 4:53 pm

Grizzly » 11 May 2019 22:48 wrote:Fuck Pelosi ...


If this message can just get out to enough SF voters, Pelosi would be in trouble.
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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby PufPuf93 » Sun May 12, 2019 5:54 pm

stickdog99 » Sun May 12, 2019 1:53 pm wrote:
Grizzly » 11 May 2019 22:48 wrote:Fuck Pelosi ...


If this message can just get out to enough SF voters, Pelosi would be in trouble.


San Francisco has the reputation and to a degree the history of the foremost progressive city in the USA.

But in my adult life time San Francisco has provided a string of what I would call Chamber of Commerce Democrats: Pelosi, Feinstein, Newsome, Harris, Willie Brown, Moscone, Pete Stark for the East Bay (who became prominent in the 60s as founder/CEO of Security Pacific Bank), etc. The Chamber of Commerce Democrats have been social liberals but more so gatekeepers of corporate business always having a prominent role.
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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby JackRiddler » Mon May 13, 2019 12:26 pm

That is one rocking and amazing video. That guy is fierce. He is really good. I love it.

If it got equal play to Pelosi's outreach, I expect she'd lose, though not by the landslide she deserves. She has a beast of a machine, and megaboatloads of money.

But I just realized the video is professionally done and has rock music in it. The guy must be an Establishment plant, amirite?
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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby Harvey » Mon May 13, 2019 2:30 pm

Cheers Griz. My girlfirend said something interesting just listening to that while I was watching it. "You can tell just by his voice, calm, a confidence that comes from a place of knowing rather than performance and rehearsal, none of the emotional screeching of the politician." She's a leftist who confidently predicted Tony Blair was a wrong un even before the 97 election (while I was suckered.) I concur.

Prediction: he's going to win.
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Re: The Democratic Party, 2019

Postby stickdog99 » Tue May 14, 2019 1:20 am

JackRiddler » 13 May 2019 16:26 wrote:That is one rocking and amazing video. That guy is fierce. He is really good. I love it.

If it got equal play to Pelosi's outreach, I expect she'd lose, though not by the landslide she deserves. It's a beast of a machine, and megaboatloads of money.

But I just realized it's professionally done and has rock music in it. The guy must be an Establishment plant, amirite?


Yeah. He's too good to be true. He's not even wearing a fascist t-shirt.
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