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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:22 am

Via: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... quake.html

Mossad spy ring 'unearthed because of Christchurch earthquake'
By Paul Chapman in Wellington 10:23AM BST 20 Jul 2011

The operation was interrupted when a van used by a spy cell was crushed by masonry falling from a damaged building, killing one man, it is claimed.

Benyamin Mizrahi, 23, the Israeli man who died in the damaged van, was found to have five passports on his person, the Southland Times newspaper reported.

Three surviving Israelis who were in the van with Mr Mizrahi fled New Zealand within 12 hours, making their way back to Israel.

They reportedly paused only to take photographs of the crushed van and return the dead man’s Israeli passport to officials from their embassy.

The Southland Times also said the police national computer was being audited because of concerns it had been hacked into.

There were fears that other Israeli operatives, in the city after the February 22 quake which killed 181 people, could have embedded malicious software to access intelligence information.

John Key, the New Zealand prime minister, on Thursday confirmed that the government’s Security Intelligence Service had carried out an investigation but he dismissed the concerns.

Speaking during a visit to the United States, Mr Key said the unusual circumstances of the incident were fully investigated and no evidence was found that the people involved were anything other than backpackers.

He said his advice was that the man had only two passports, one of European origin which was found on his body, and the other which his friends had handed in to Israeli officials.

Mr Key said the government took the security of New Zealand and New Zealanders “very seriously”.

“The unusual circumstances which triggered the investigation was the rapid departure from the country of the three surviving members of the group of Israelis in question,” he said.

“Security agencies conducted the investigation and found no evidence that the people were anything other than backpackers,” Mr Key said.

In all, three Israelis died in the magnitude 6.3 earthquake.

Security experts suggested agents for Mossad may have been on an identity theft “trawling” mission for information, so that the passports of unwitting citizens could be cloned.

The false passports would then be used as cover during espionage activities in other parts of the world by Israeli secret agents.

Fred Tulett, editor of the Southland Times, said an “extraordinary” reaction by the Israeli government in the hours after the earthquake had heightened the suspicions of New Zealand’s Security Intelligence Service.

They included the fact that Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli Prime Minister, made four calls to John Key, his New Zealand counterpart, on the day of the earthquake.

Shemi Tzur, Israel’s ambassador to Australia and New Zealand, travelled from his base in Australia to Christchurch, where he visited the temporary morgue set up to cope with earthquake victims.

Meanwhile, Israel’s defence chief also flew to the earthquake-ravaged city.

In a further move, a search and rescue team arrived in Christchurch from Israel, but the squad’s offer of help was rejected by New Zealand authorities because it did not have the necessary United Nations accreditation.

Despite that rejection, members of the Israeli team were confronted by armed New Zealand officers after being discovered in the badly damaged sealed off “red zone” of the city centre, the Southland Times said.

The Israeli government later sent a forensic team to help authorities identify the dead.

The paper said New Zealand officials became alarmed when intelligence information was collated and it was realised that the Israeli forensic team had been given access to the police national database to help with identification work.

The paper quoted an unnamed intelligence officer as saying it would take only moments for a USB drive to be inserted into a police computer terminal and loaded with a program allowing remote backdoor access to the database.

A police spokesman later said: “We are confident that our data and network were not compromised during the Christchurch Earthquake response or subsequently.”

Mr Tzur, the Israeli ambassador, said it was “science fiction” to believe that any Mossad agents had been involved.
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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby RocketMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:17 am

Was this post just a coincidence with the massacre...?

Al-Jazeera reported several suspects in custody early on...
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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby BenDhyan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:16 am

New Zealand mosque attacks: How Christchurch massacre unfolded

Published time: 15 Mar, 2019 09:42

New Zealand experienced one of the worst instances of extremist violence in its history on Friday, when 49 people were gunned down at two mosques in Christchurch. This is how the tragic events unfolded.

The first reports of multiple gunshots in Christchurch, the largest city on New Zealand’s South Island, came in around 1:40pm local time. Police deployed armed officers in response.

Witnesses soon pinpointed the scene of the attack as the Masjid Al Noor mosque on Deans Avenue, a street that serves as the eastern border of the centermost part of the city. A man armed with an automatic rifle and wearing a bulletproof vest and helmet was reported entering the building and opening fire at random people.

Police cordoned off the central part of the city and advised people to stay indoors, saying the “evolving situation” remained dangerous. Officers cleared Deans Avenue and Hagley Park, which is located just east of it. A heavy police presence was reported around the Christchurch hospital in the eastern part of the park.

Police action was also reported in the Linwood neighborhood 5km east of the Masjid Al Noor mosque, with some people injured. It soon emerged that another mosque, the Linwood Masjid, located in the area, also came under attack at about 1:45pm. The shooter was described as a man wearing a black motorcycle helmet and camouflage clothing armed with an assault rifle.

Footage emerged of what appears to be the arrest of a suspect in the shootings. Police rammed their car into another vehicle on Brougham Street before apprehending the driver.

Prime Minister Ardern said the tragic events “can now only be described as a terrorist attack.” The death toll was soon updated by Police Commissioner Mike Bush, who said 49 people were confirmed dead.

Commissioner Bush reported that four people had been taken into custody – three men and one woman. “We are not aware of other people, but we cannot assume there are not others at large,” he said. He also confirmed that the attackers had improvised explosive devices. Police secured them when seizing the suspects’ vehicles, he said.

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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:00 am

Attacker posted 87-page "anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim" manifesto
So far, police have arrested four people in connection with the attack on two Christchurch mosques -- three men and one woman.

In a social media post just before the attack, an account that is believed to belong to one of the attackers posted a link to an 87-page manifesto that was filled with anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim ideas and explanations for an attack. The manifesto was not signed.

TVNZ journalist Anna Burns-Francis told CNN at least one of the shooters is believed to be an Australian national, while a witness from the scene described a man "white, aged in his 30s or 40s and wearing a uniform."

CNN has not been able to independently confirm any information about any of the attackers at this stage.
https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/ ... a16c3b2002


Tarrant mentions that he successfully invested in a cryptocurrency and used the money to travel. In France, he writes of finding cities where the "invaders" outnumber the French, and crying at a military graveyard because he felt the soldiers' deaths were in vain because of immigration.
"WHY WON'T SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING," he writes.
"The spell broke, why don't I do something? Why not me? If not me, the who?"
He says the Christchurch attack was planned for two years, and the locations were identified three months ago. New Zealand was originally not his intended target, he writes, and he planned to live and train in the country temporarily.
Asking himself if he supports Donald Trump, Tarrant expresses admiration for the US President as a symbol of "white identity".
The Great Replacement", is dedicated to explaining the rationale and ambition for a global race war against what he calls the "invaders".
"This is ethnic replacement," he writes. "This is cultural replacement. This is racial replacement. This is WHITE GENOCIDE."
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7 News Central Queensland

Christchurch Mass Shooting: "There were a number of IED's attached to vehicles that we also stopped"


Chris Sampson

The #Christchurch shooter had a patch and hand drawn version of this sun symbol frequently used by white supremacists/nazis including the medallion here sold by StormFront member.
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#ChristChurchTerrorist attack festooned his weapons and ammo magazines with names of recent immigrant & Muslim mass murderers fm Italy, Canada, USA, Portugal & European/Russian military men who fought the Turks/Muslims across centuries.
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The gunman then walks back into the mosque, where there are at least two dozen people lying on the ground. After walking back outside and shooting a woman there, he gets back in his car, where the song "Fire" by English rock band "The Crazy World of Arthur Brown" can be heard blasting from the speakers. The singer bellows, "I am the god of hellfire!" and the gunman drives away. The video then cuts out.
https://abc11.com/police-1-in-custody-m ... g/5194137/


The Associated Press
BREAKING: New Zealand police say they've defused a number of improvised explosive devices found on vehicles after mosque shootings.



Facebook Scrambles to Remove New Zealand Mosque Attacker's Livestreamed Video
http://fortune.com/2019/03/15/facebook- ... cks-video/


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crikkett » Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:59 am wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/19/world/main20080907.shtml

NZ quake may have revealed Israeli spy ring

(CBS/AP) WELLINGTON, New Zealand - A New Zealand newspaper group is reporting that the deadly February 22nd earthquake in Christchurch unearthed a suspected Israeli spy ring.

Three Israelis died in the quake that killed 181 people. Other Israelis escaped the quake.
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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby thrulookingglass » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:14 am

He had a "black sun" patch?! Faster and faster the apocalypse comes. This was of course worshiped by the the Thule and Vril societies and original occultist Nazis back in the '30s. Before humanity understood the passing of the moon before the sun to cause an eclipse the darkening of the sun was considered an incredibly ominous sign. Often animal or even people were sacrificed in order to appease the God(s). It may have Hindu origins though before fascists occultist adopted it as their symbol. I have seen it with a swastika at its center which is another co-opted symbol of the Nazis. I watched an astrotheological documentary that stated the swastika had something to do with the relative movement of the sun delineating the four seasons. The four ends of it represented the solstices and the equinoxes, but that's astrotheology in a nutshell. According to the Book of the Holy Trinity, after Adam's fall, tainted by Original Sin, man is made "from the black sun's fire." Always a slave that needs whipping in this world. Bad medicine.

Intolerance if not outright bigotry has damaged the soul of humanity. Whom shall we not care for? I can't afford to care for you. The use of evil cannot be used to stop evil. Nationalism is poison to the mind. There are no nation states here but the ones you accept in your mind. One great earth where we all should find peace. This is what happens when you worship a God whose word states I can only rescue the faithful. None are great that cause any to suffer. Religions are divisive and do not offer transcendence. Mohammed meets Moses in heaven allegedly and Moses weeps stating, "Your religion will bring more to heaven than mine ever will." It's all competition. There can be no heaven while any suffer hell.
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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:27 am

It's impressive that 4 Chan and PewDiePie and the Trump Administration can radicalize a young man so much he learns how to organize coordinated light infantry strikes in a foreign country -- complete with IED belts! It's just inspiring what enterprising people can accomplish in the total absence any assistance from state actors or military connections.

I guess it's also a testament to the power of American popular culture that an Australian man in New Zealand would write a manifesto that's ... mostly about the United States.

I suppose we'll never be able to appreciate how disturbed young Brenton Tarrant was, that he would write a first-person manifesto for a team attack. This is just the sort of things video games do, and it's tragic to witness.

Anyways, I just wanted to get in on the ground before anyone besmirched the reputation of Rigorous Intuition by suggesting that atrocities like this could have connections to covert operations. There is *no historical precedent* for false flag massacres with political aims and I don't want to see that kind of paranoid hysterics here.
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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby liminalOyster » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:37 am

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:27 am wrote:It's impressive that 4 Chan and PewDiePie and the Trump Administration can radicalize a young man so much he learns how to organize coordinated light infantry strikes in a foreign country -- complete with IED belts! It's just inspiring what enterprising people can accomplish in the total absence any assistance from state actors or military connections.

I guess it's also a testament to the power of American popular culture that an Australian man in New Zealand would write a manifesto that's ... mostly about the United States.

I suppose we'll never be able to appreciate how disturbed young Brenton Tarrant was, that he would write a first-person manifesto for a team attack. This is just the sort of things video games do, and it's tragic to witness.

Anyways, I just wanted to get in on the ground before anyone besmirched the reputation of Rigorous Intuition by suggesting that atrocities like this could have connections to covert operations. There is *no historical precedent* for false flag massacres with political aims and I don't want to see that kind of paranoid hysterics here.


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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:25 pm

A spokesperson for New Zealand Police confirmed Friday that two separate mosques were targeted in a deadly mass shooting, with four suspects in custody as of Friday afternoon local time.


12:42 a.m.: Police commissioner Mike Bush said at a press conference that there are four people in custody. He said three are men and the other is a woman.

"I won't assume there aren't others," Bush said.


Well, this all got sewed up pretty fast. Four accomplices arrested at three locations, footage of two gunmen in a parking lot, photos of a fourth man being arrested in front of a high school, reports of multiple IEDs, a female suspect in custody -- now it's just about rolled up into another darn lone wolf...just a regular angry white loser who recently traveled to Turkey, Pakistan and North Korea.

Via: https://www.ft.com/content/da9decbe-46c ... a37d002cd3

At least 49 were killed in an attack on two New Zealand mosques on Friday by a gunman the authorities said professed white nationalist views, in the deadliest case of rightwing terrorism since 77 people were murdered in 2011 by an anti-Muslim extremist in Norway.

A 28-year-old Australian has been charged with murder in Christchurch. A manifesto by a man claiming responsibility for the shootings said he had been inspired by Anders Breivik’s 2011 Norway attack and a 2015 shooting of a black church in South Carolina that killed nine.

“It is clear that this can now only be described as a terrorist attack,” said Jacinda Ardern, New Zealand’s prime minister, adding that two others were also being held. “These are people who I would describe as having extremist views that have absolutely no place in New Zealand, and in fact have no place in the world.”

Police and officials described the shooting as well planned, adding that two bombs attached to suspects’ vehicles were defused before they detonated. They said the gunman produced a 17-minute video, filmed while apparently carrying out the attacks during Friday prayers at the mosques. In addition to the 49 killed, at least 48 were left wounded.

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Mike Bush, New Zealand’s police commissioner, said investigators were still trying to determine whether the gunman had accomplices; it remains unclear whether the two other people detained, who were also armed, were involved in the plot, he said.

“There have been huge acts of bravery to apprehend these people, but let’s not assume that the threat is over,” Mr Bush said.
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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby Cordelia » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:27 pm

Fortune went to press too early today to keep up-to-date.

A Series of Unfortunate Events on the Ides of March

Unfortunately there have been some other fateful events that have occurred on throughout history on March 15. For example:

    Between 1918 and 1955, the Ides of March marked tax day in the United States.

    On March 15, 1938, Nazi Germany invaded Czechoslovakia.

    In 1941, a blizzard killed more than 150 people in Minnesota and North Dakota.

    The Centers for Disease Control and the World Health Organization issued warnings for SARS, a deadly type of pneumonia, in 2003.

    And in the vein of a Roman revolution, protests erupted in Syria on March 15, 2011, that led to the beginning of the country’s civil war.

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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby km artlu » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:52 pm

>> WR

Your posts in this thread are perfection.

Sadly, the oblique truths they convey are unlikely to stimulate rational thought in those scrambling to either side of the divide, as exacerbating that divide is the objective of the op.
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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby RocketMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:07 pm

Yep, got a weird smell...

I notice there is talk of the main guy being driven by at least two other persons from the first massacre site to the second. But the reporting sort of stops there about all the others but The Main Guy. It feels weird and disjointed already.
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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby Grizzly » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:54 pm


https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/al ... ew-zealand

(http://archive.is/o3AnH)

https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/21-12- ... ay-israel/

(http://archive.is/FULnn)

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-c ... cellation/

(http://archive.is/NTNsn)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel–New_Zealand_passport_scandal

The 2004 Israel–New Zealand passport scandal was an incident of passport fraud in July 2004 that led New Zealand to take diplomatic sanctions against Israel. High-level contacts between the two countries were suspended after two Israeli citizens suspected of being Mossad agents, Uriel Kelman and Eli Cara, were caught trying to fraudulently acquire a New Zealand passport using the identity of a man with cerebral palsy.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... quake.html

(http://archive.is/gqBRm) http://www.jwire.com.au/new-zealand-vot ... solutions/
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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby Jerky » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:14 am

Just goes to show you, money can't buy you happiness!

But seriously...

Personally, I'm keeping a lid on my "suspicions" until something more than just early reporting errors, or stories about individuals being taken into custody (which accounts for a lot more paranoid suspicion than it should, considering the circumstances) are all that exist to bolster them.

I'll grant that the notion of a young man becoming independently wealthy and becoming a world traveler who visits weird hot-spots of ideological insanity (along with the usual European stops in France and the like) is fishy, but it certainly isn't impossible, or even all that rare. I, myself, know people with far fishier backstories who, if they were ever to snap and kill a bunch of people in a terribly spectacular fashion, like this, would seem even more suspect re: potential subversive state involvement (Manchurian false-flags or what have you).

As for the Christchurch / Israeli spy thing from 8 years ago... I'm failing to see the relevance. But I'll keep it in mind as news unfolds.

For now, I have no reason to believe this is anything other than what it seems: A radicalized young White Supremacist (perhaps with accomplices) who decided to leave his mark on the world by perhaps succeeding where Dylann Roof, Andre Bissonnette and Anders Breveik have failed...

...or did they? As long as there's someone out there, keeping the flame alive by feeding it the blood of innocents... can they really be called failures?

Too much to think about. I'm no defender of the Israeli government, but I urge all here to be careful that they don't keep their mind so open, things start to spill out.

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RocketMan » 15 Mar 2019 21:07 wrote:Yep, got a weird smell...

I notice there is talk of the main guy being driven by at least two other persons from the first massacre site to the second. But the reporting sort of stops there about all the others but The Main Guy. It feels weird and disjointed already.
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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:51 am

New Zealand attorney general David Parker MP announces the government will ban semi-automatic guns.


Rush Limbaugh suggests Christchurch shootings might be a false flag

"There's an ongoing theory that the shooter himself may in fact be a leftist who writes the manifesto and then goes out and performs the deed purposely to smear his political enemies"
https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2019 ... ear/223154


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trump dismissed White Nationalism as a growing threat yesterday.

Every single American killed by extremists in 2018 was murdered by a white supremacist or far right extremist. Every. One.

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Re: Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:05 am

Okay, I'll bite.

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:27 am wrote:It's impressive that 4 Chan and PewDiePie and the Trump Administration can radicalize a young man so much he learns how to organize coordinated light infantry strikes in a foreign country -- complete with IED belts!


I'm not impressed. It's not exactly pedestrian for someone (or someone and his friends) to commit mass violence like this, but hardly a new thing. Motivation + money (or a bit of spook background) can accomplish the details you seem to suggest require a state backing. Apparently he had the money, whether through luck or spook connections. Regarding motivation, not that I am inside his head (or those of his co-shooters or accomplices), any more than you are. Also, 4C, PDP and TA would not be the radicalizers so much as part-time attractors of the already radicalized. I think you understand the difference.

The "radicalization" process usually would be an upbringing in, or a personal conversion to, the same kind of racism, violence, and settler-supremacy ideology that produced massacres and genocides of the Herero by the Kaiser's men, Algerians by French settlers (often acting autonomously and from their own fervor rather than state orders), the Amritsar massacre ordered by an English officer who just thought something like, "fuck your optics, I'm going in," the Colfax massacre of 150 already captured black militia men and just random black people in 1873, or all the ethno-religious cleansing and clashes all over the world. The Internet angle can be seriously exaggerated. (In Rwanda, it was supposed to be radio; ditto the German pogrom of 1938, but what about the pogroms to kick off the Crusades back in 1096?) It's still the old story of self-appointed heroes massacring their chosen hate-objects.

Or, in a few strategically placed cases, it might be some kind of false-flag psyop. In this case, it's hardly anything like the default hypothesis your smarm seems to suggest is justified. Far from it. Racist violent self-indoctrinated and highly capable monster (or monster and friends) with guns seems so self-evident, until genuine contrary evidence is produced. (General "timing" or references to Internet stars don't count here. Especially not timing, since what do you think this is supposed to accomplish? Does it justify an already-planned invasion of some country? A repeal of the Second Amendment? Sharia law? Unwarranted sympathy for Muslims?)

Perhaps I am prejudiced against racist violent self-indoctrinated monsters. I always think they're not the largest group, not at all, but enough in surplus that this, sadly, comes as no surprise to me. But I could be wrong.

Have to agree with Jerky's comments. Why do you put me in that position?

It's just inspiring what enterprising people can accomplish in the total absence any assistance from state actors or military connections.


No one's said there weren't any, yet. A military background or connections to military definitely would not surprise. It's often there. And it's usually the brutal culture of militarism that contributes to producing such men, more than hidden orders or plots.

I guess it's also a testament to the power of American popular culture that an Australian man in New Zealand would write a manifesto that's ... mostly about the United States.


US is still the biggest center of, um, what should I call it? "World culture," such as it is? The white power/fascist movements perceive themselves as an international, and the centers of gravity are currently Euro and American. Here I can believe the Internet had a big influence on this asshole. There are some not-insignifcant number of (mostly harmless and not fascist) people who follow US politics better than their own country's. You have to admit US politics is a really big show right now and pushed, pushed, pushed. Like the even larger demographics who watch Hollywood product rather than homegrown.

I suppose we'll never be able to appreciate how disturbed young Brenton Tarrant was, that he would write a first-person manifesto for a team attack. This is just the sort of things video games do, and it's tragic to witness.


Has any supposed-to-be definitive version of the story been told yet? Also, if it's a team attack, then the extra arrests make some kind of sense, yeh? But right now it's all in we-don't-know land, isn't it?

Anyways, I just wanted to get in on the ground before anyone besmirched the reputation of Rigorous Intuition by suggesting that atrocities like this could have connections to covert operations.


They well could. Obviously. Either from veterans thereof (and his profile suggests at least that much, as did the Las Vegas guy's) -- or as part of a plot, as you are suggesting (less likely in my opinion but who knows at this point). Either way it's racist violent self-indoctrinated turtles all the way down, isn't it now?

Now, a serious question? If you're entertaining your implied ideas and posting about them here, have you looked into whatever deep state or parapolitical scene New Zealand actually has? Who are the players, the agencies, the mobs, foreign and domestic, over there? I have no idea. It seems lazy to just find some snip of a story about maybe Mossad guys were present in a country 9 years ago when an earthquake killed one of them. I mean, I don't know you to be that lazy, that just citing this suggests some kind of permanent presence thereof that eventually could connect to the mosque massacre horror.

Also, wouldn't the false-flagging version be a massacre of random white people, and the patsies from a mosque? Sorry, I'm again being prejudiced against racist violent self-indoctrinated monsters capable of doing shit like this and being all MAGA when they do, whom I believe exist; and while I estimate that they're no majority, or even that big of a group, there are more than enough of them and they currently feel enough motivation to make such horrors fairly regular.

If you're going to go all in on this at some point, I do hope you go with MK indoctrination and real dead people, and not "crisis actors." I respect your chops.

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