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Just what is it about the NRA (National Rifle Association)?
PufPuf93 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:19 am wrote:Now allegedly the NRA has been a conduit for funneling money and influence from Russian interests.
alloneword » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:48 am wrote:PufPuf93 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:19 am wrote:Now allegedly the NRA has been a conduit for funneling money and influence from Russian interests.
Was this ever proven? Mueller?
Moderation and compromise are not part of their vocabulary and people die every day because of it.
Karmamatterz » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:53 pm wrote:Not to come out in support of the NRA (no I'm not a member either) but I did find interest in this:Moderation and compromise are not part of their vocabulary and people die every day because of it.
IF thousands of people everyday would drink alcohol with moderation and not get behind the wheel of their automobile there would be fewer deaths and injuries. If one truly is concerned with the deaths of innocents (not all victims of gunshot death are innocent victims) then surely more stringent regulation of alcohol and vehicles would be a top agenda item.
PufPuf93 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:20 pm wrote:alloneword » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:48 am wrote:PufPuf93 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:19 am wrote:Now allegedly the NRA has been a conduit for funneling money and influence from Russian interests.
Was this ever proven? Mueller?
Maria Butina pled guilty to charges but I do not think specific charges of dropping money into USA politics. Butina had her picture taken with scads of NRA types (and GOP too). I am a sceptic as far as an opinion of what actually occurred and is true about the Mueller investigation and have not read any of the report. Our expert at RI seems to have disappeared.
“There’s no allegation of espionage, there’s no allegation of classified information, there’s no allegation she was paying anyone off, there’s no allegation she was recruiting spies. None of the things you would typically see in an espionage case,”
RocketMan » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:18 pm wrote:Well then why do you think the US has such a horrendous number of gunshot-related deaths compared to, say, Western European nations? Compared to, say, the UK?
Karmamatterz » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:53 pm wrote:Not to come out in support of the NRA (no I'm not a member either) but I did find interest in this:Moderation and compromise are not part of their vocabulary and people die every day because of it.
IF thousands of people everyday would drink alcohol with moderation and not get behind the wheel of their automobile there would be fewer deaths and injuries. If one truly is concerned with the deaths of innocents (not all victims of gunshot death are innocent victims) then surely more stringent regulation of alcohol and vehicles would be a top agenda item.
"Look at this other bad thing" is just a dishonest way of distracting from the issue.
Karmamatterz » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:22 am wrote:There is an long ongoing thread where guns are discussed.
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... wn#p654273
This thread looks like it's ready to move the convo over to there.
Already mentioned, if people were truly concerned with innocent people dying the alcohol issue would be addressed. Just as related is the entire opioid situation. Death is death. There is this myth being played out that it's all about guns. Guns guns and guns! Why the other thread title of "Guns Yawn" is so perfectly appropriate. Turning briefly solipsistic, as I continue to work at stop smoking one can also see parallels to tobacco use, guns, alcohol, drugs and death.
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