What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment?

[FourthBase]

I can't for the life of me remember the exact terminology and every time I search for it online I get either stories about mind control slavery (perhaps related, but not what I'm talking about) or strategies for therapists and teachers to deal with victims of trauma (definitely not what I'm talking about). What I'm talking about is the theory that traumatic experiences develop the mind, tap into special abilities, increase intelligence, sharpen the senses, gain wisdom, etc. It's an evil theory, some Luciferian shit, but I know I've seen it here before...just can't think of the name. Help?

[Iamwhomiam]

I think "Luciferian shit" covers it well. Sadism and Masochism also bring about altered states, but others here more experienced with induced trauma might be able give you the more definitive term your searching for.

Flagellants as well, use such practices, supposedly for mind altering purposes. Not sure I'd call that "enlightenment," though.

[JackRiddler]

?

https://www.stevenmtaylor.com/essays/spiritual-alchemy/

[FourthBase]

Nah, none of that.

There was a term for it, like "trauma-based" something but not "mind control"...dammit, I smoke too much.

The theory is how some abusive perps justify their abuse of others and feel grateful for their own: That the trauma is improving the victim, enhancing their mind, expanding their mind, enriching their brain...dammit, why can't I think of the word.

[82_28]

OT but is it the Red Sox probably missing the playoffs, 4B that brought you back? I keed. Welcome back.

[FourthBase]

Lately, whenever they win a World Series, I almost sort of forget they exist the next season. You just reminded me.

Somebody please help me figure out what this theory or phenomenon is generally called. It's basically the same premise as the MK Ultra'd girl in Firefly, except not quite as fantastical. Trauma-based...education...enhancement...something. Shit.

[82_28]

Operant conditioning?

https://www.simplypsychology.org/operan ... oning.html

[FourthBase]

Nah, that's not it either. Damn.

We're talking about a concept that would be found almost exclusively on tinfoil sites. I can't believe I can't think of the words to search for it right...ugh.

[elfismiles]

I don't know of any term for it but Jason (Jasun) Horsley (aka Aeolus Kephas, Auticulture, Jason Wynd, Guruilla, etc.) has touched on this idea (against it - calling out perceived purveyors / endorsers of it such as Strieber, Kripal, etc.) here and elsewhere. Strieber has suggested it in his exploration of his believed MKultra experiences in San Antonio.

Nah, none of that.

There was a term for it, like "trauma-based" something but not "mind control"...dammit, I smoke too much.

The theory is how some abusive perps justify their abuse of others and feel grateful for their own: That the trauma is improving the victim, enhancing their mind, expanding their mind, enriching their brain...dammit, why can't I think of the word.

[Harvey]

"If it doesn't kill you it makes you stronger" ?

[FourthBase]

I don't know of any term for it but Jason (Jasun) Horsley (aka Aeolus Kephas, Auticulture, Jason Wynd, Guruilla, etc.) has touched on this idea (against it - calling out perceived purveyors / endorsers of it such as Strieber, Kripal, etc.) here and elsewhere. Strieber has suggested it in his exploration of his believed MKultra experiences in San Antonio.

Nah, none of that.

There was a term for it, like "trauma-based" something but not "mind control"...dammit, I smoke too much.

The theory is how some abusive perps justify their abuse of others and feel grateful for their own: That the trauma is improving the victim, enhancing their mind, expanding their mind, enriching their brain...dammit, why can't I think of the word.

That must be where I read it from. Thanks.

[Harvey]

Oh and nice to see you again.

[Iamwhomiam]

I remember being repulsed by something along those lines that Jasun, guruilla, wrote in one of the threads he contributed to, though I cannot recall which thread that would be.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&channel=cus&q=jasun+horsley+enlightenment+from+abuse

Delivering the Poison Secret:
Whitley Strieber & Jeffrey Kripal’s Traumatic Package
https://medium.com/@jakephas/delivering-the-poison-secret-6105ad311a46

[FourthBase]

"Traumagenesis", it is, I think.

https://auticulture.com/blog/2014/05/04 ... rt-4-of-4/

[FourthBase]

Our culture is traumagenic.

Think of how much violent gore many children now grow up seeing through TV and the internet and video games compared to how very, very rare that was about 50 years ago. Take a child who's never seen gore, show that child 1000 hours of simulated murder, and tell me that's not somehow programming his or her mind over time.

Vigilant Citizen's world of paranoia is a laughingstock to tinfoil lefties with edgy artistic tastes, but if it were framed as an evil capitalist scheme to generate "enlightened" consumers with no moral ideals to get in the way of commerce, the same lefties would probably eat that shit up. It's the same world, though. Same sick shit.

Now think of how very, very little porn that very, very few children saw, say, 70 years ago. Not long after, control freak Christian parents were outraged about Elvis gyrating. Then there were mass market porno mags and the scraps kids could discover in the garbage or the occasional pile. Then there was softcore porn on late night pay cable, the occasional misplaced VHS tape, and pop stars doing sexy things on MTV. Then there was the occasional glimpse of descrambled hardcore porn on pay per view channels, and pop stars doing even freakier things on MTV. Then there was the internet, and it took a while to download but clever kids could look up anything. And now there's softcore porn on basic cable, there are kids who know what Rule 34 is, and there are pop stars on YouTube in videos about mind-controlled satanic sex slavery. Look at that progression, and tell me those puritans from the 50's weren't ultimately right about what would be unleashed by Elvis's pelvis.

Take a child who's never seen gore or porn, show that child 1000 hours of gore and 1000 hours of porn, and tell me that's not child abuse. Our culture is a child abuser, a ritualistic traumatizer.