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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:54 pm

MacCruiskeen » 07 Dec 2021 12:27 wrote:

Christ... Imagine the amount of thought and work (and money) that went into conceiving, designing, approving and distributing that monstrosity. The studied pinkness of it all. The nice cardi. The new hairdo. The shit-eating grin. ("You're ours. The diddly pindeemic is here to stay.") The cutesy typeface. The simpering exclamation marks. The asterisks and footnotes.

Propagandists have come on a bit since Goebbels. But picture the message in gothic script and minus the photo.
"Each booster gives you up to six months worth of freedoms!" *
* Freedoms not available in all areas and are subject to change.

No, Jab, No Job, no refunds.

Obey or starve. "Labour" is not the name of a party, it's a barked command.



Do you really think that isn't a fake image?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:31 pm

Belligerent Savant » 06 Dec 2021 09:54 wrote:
Personal side-note: after over 2 yrs of taking reasonable (pre-2020 era) precautions, i came down with covid a few days ago (my wife and I both fell ill within a couple days of each other). Overall, symptoms have been consistent with mild flu.
I already had a stockpile of Vitamins D and C, zinc and Quercetin. Using resources from FLCCC, we managed to find a doc that prescribed Ivermectin for us. After a few days of treatment we are now largely without symptoms.

And we're also now naturally immune.



I'm glad you and your missus are okay. That's awesome news.

There will always be another variant to blame, another excuse to have yet another leaky shot (with limited, waning protection at best, along with demonstrably damaging near-term side effect potential) forced on the populace regardless of prior infection or risk profile.

The only way we return to any semblance of 'normal' is to stop complying with egregious govt overreach.



There probably won't.

There is one variant coming - called Omicron - and most people on the planet will probably be exposed to it in the next couple of months.

So covid is over. (Well maybe not but it seems that way.)

Either society collapses because even with the low rate of illness among young people with these earlier variants things will be shithouse and functioning economies will collapse. If that happens covid won't matter any more. Its unlikely tho.

Or, and this is far more likely, Omicron is basically harmless.

Reports coming out from South Africa are claiming very few if any people are getting seriously ill from this. Oxygen demand is apparently almost non existent for the first time in nearly two years. Supposedly cases are being found thru mandatory testing for people in hospital but they are in hospital for other conditions and have no symptoms. I have heard one Dr from South Africa say its possible that rates of hospitalisation from trauma (car accidents, shooting etc etc) are higher than rates of hospitalisation from covid for the first time in a long time. He didn't claim this outright, he was careful not to but still suggested it (which I doubt he would have done if he didn't think it was happening.)

There are results of sewerage testing around Pretoria that seem to suggest very high rates of covid in the population and yet people are no longer presenting to hospital with symptoms from covid.

For the last two weeks the reports have been saying systemic infection isn't happening the way it was earlier. IE it's not getting into people's organs or beyond their upper throat and nose cavity.

So if its all over then in the next two months this will be obvious to everyone. It will mean there is no need for vaccine mandates, locking the unvaccinated out of society or any of the other totalitarian responses people and governments have had a hard on for since this started.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:56 pm

Harvey » 06 Dec 2021 23:32 wrote:


Where's this from Stick? Is there more? Asking in case it's removed.


Here is a whole blog post about where it is from with timestamps to the entire video.

Here is the entire 4 hour video where it will almost certainly not be removed: https://rumble.com/vokrf7-sen.-johnson- ... dates.html
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Postby stickdog99 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:08 pm

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:11 pm

Joe Hillshoist » Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:54 pm wrote:
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Do you really think that isn't a fake image?


Tell us how you distinguish real from fake images.
Then tell us exactly how that poster misrepresents current government policy in NZ.

Because you're Mister Rigour, right?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:37 am

MacCruiskeen » 08 Dec 2021 11:11 wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:54 pm wrote:
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Do you really think that isn't a fake image?


Tell us how you distinguish real from fake images.
Then tell us exactly how that poster misrepresents current government policy in NZ.

Because you're Mister Rigour, right?


Its obviously a pisstake and a better one than you tried in that thread that should be on microdots.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby BenDhyan » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:20 am

She's a case...
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:37 am

^^ It's obviously a pisstake. Must be manipulated.

What sense would it make for any politician to say, "There's not gunna be an eendpoint to this veexinytion prowgremme"?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:53 am

Jacinda Ardern could torture a dog to death in front of you, and if you flinched she'd ask you what was wrong. If you said the dog being tortured, she'd tell you she was petting it and offer you the services of a psychatrist. the psychatrist would then proscribe you diazepam so you could calmly watch her torture a dog to death in peace. Problem solved. World a better place.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby maple syrup » Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:19 am

MacCruiskeen » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:11 pm wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:54 pm wrote:
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Do you really think that isn't a fake image?


Tell us how you distinguish real from fake images.
Then tell us exactly how that poster misrepresents current government policy in NZ.

Because you're Mister Rigour, right?


Oh come come, why all the redaction? Surely what you wrote the first time is a more accurate representation of what you really think. Why exactly did you remove so much of your original reply?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:33 am

1. So as not to stretch the thread with an unnecessarily lengthy stream of invective against timewasters. 2. To give nasty syrupy dimwitted little mercs like you [Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:02 am] the opportunity to whinge about how cwuelly you're being mistweated.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:47 am

Meanwhile: Just days before the Berlin Senate starts pricking defenceless children aged 5-11 (without even awaiting the approval of the Standing Committee on Vaccinations), the same gang of Carers have forbidden the Unpricked homeless to take refuge in subway stations. (And they now need a vax pass or a negative "test" even to enter a homeless shelter.) The first snows have fallen and the temperatures are dropping below zero.

https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/news/3g ... -li.199239

Elsewhere in Deutschland. A gang of masked black-uniformed policemen molest an old woman for being unable to prove she's been Pricked:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1468446933731528706

A bystander counts the cops: "Nine of you, for one 80-year-old woman?" Her granddaughter shouts encouragement: "You're the best, Granny!" Someone else asks, "Why are you touching her, why are you grabbing her arm?" A man asks, "Aren't you ashamed of yourselves? You can only bring yourselves to do what you're doing because you're masked -- if you had to show your faces you'd die of shame." Etc.

In her final address to the nation last week, Merkel described the creation of this lawless New Normal apartheid state as "an act of national solidarity".
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:07 am

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Shifting back to U.S. Empire for a moment:

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/fda-do ... ished=true


FDA Doubles Down: Asks Federal Judge to Grant it Until at Least the Year 2096 to Fully Release Pfizer’s COVID-19 Vaccine Data

A prior post explained that the FDA has asked a federal judge to make the public wait until the year 2076 to disclose all of the data and information it relied upon to license Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine. Literally, a 55-year delay. My firm, on behalf of PHMPT, asked that this information be disclosed in 108 days – the same amount of time it took for the FDA to review and license Pfizer’s vaccine.

The Court ordered the parties to submit briefs in support of their respective positions by December 6, 2021. The FDA’s brief, incredibly, doubles down. It now effectively asks to have until at least 2096 to produce the Pfizer documents. Not a typo. A total of at least 75 years.

Other than producing an initial ~12,000 pages in around two months, the FDA thereafter only wants to commit to producing 500 pages per month. The FDA also disclosed that it actually has approximately at least 451,000 pages to produce.*

Each side gets to file response briefs on December 13, 2021, and then there is oral argument on December 14, 2021 before the Judge. If you want to read the response to the FDA’s position, a copy of the introduction in the brief my firm filed is below. And below that, a downloadable copy of each side’s full briefing is available.

Enjoy. And if you find what you are reading difficult to believe – that is because it is dystopian for the government to give Pfizer billions, mandate Americans to take its product, prohibit Americans from suing for harms, but yet refuse to let Americans see the data underlying its licensure. The lesson yet again is that civil and individual rights should never be contingent upon a medical procedure.

EXCERPT FROM BRIEF DEMANDING TIMELY PRODUCTION

INTRODUCTION

A minimum of 20,010 days (54 years and 10 months). That is how long the FDA proposes to take, at a rate of 500 pages per month, to produce only a portion of the documents in its file for the COVID-19 Pfizer vaccine that PHMPT requested pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act (the “FOIA Request”) and 21 C.F.R. § 601.51(e). But when it came to reviewing those same documents to license this product so that Pfizer could freely sell it to the public, the FDA took just 108 days. It took the FDA’s parent department even less time to grant Pfizer complete immunity to liability for injuries from this product, and it took a stroke of the President’s pen to mandate this product for federal employees, the private sector and military personnel.

The federal government mandating that millions of people be injected with a liability-free vaccine requires complete government transparency – not the government’s suppression of information. PHMPT is comprised of independent scientists working at some of our nation’s premier institutions, and all they are seeking is the data the FDA has already reviewed concerning the Pfizer vaccine in order to provide the necessary peer review. The FDA knows that they, and other independent scientists, cannot properly analyze that data until it is all released. Yet, the FDA wants to wait until most of those scientists are long since dead to fully release the data. News outlets, politicians, and scientists have called the FDA’s position “outrageous.” They are correct.

The entire purpose of FOIA is government transparency. In multiple recent cases, in upholding the FOIA’s requirement to “make the records promptly available,” courts have required agencies, including the FDA, to produce 10,000 or more pages per month, and those cases did not involve a request nearly this important – i.e., the data underlying licensure of a liability-free product that the federal government requires nearly all Americans to receive. As the present pandemic rages on, independent review of these documents by outside scientists is urgently needed to assist with addressing the shortcomings and issues with the response to the pandemic to date.

The context surrounding PHMPT’s FOIA request is truly unprecedented, and the request should be treated as such. Historically, there has been no consumer product that the federal government has mandated Americans to receive. Now, it has mandated Pfizer’s vaccine to private sector employees, federal employees, the military, and more. States have done the same at the urging of the federal government, extending mandates for people to enter schools, universities, restaurants, and public venues, among other places. A majority of Americans are now mandated to receive this product under penalty of losing a job or worse. This is truly unparalleled in the nation’s past. There has never been such a large-scale mandate of any product for society, let alone one that is injected into people. Even school mandates under state laws have almost always included an easy to obtain exemption. The current inability to say “no” to injecting a product into one’s body absent serious consequences dictated by the government is truly unprecedented.

Making this even more unprecedented is that Americans, if injured, cannot sue Pfizer and otherwise have no recourse. There is virtually no other product where a consumer is prohibited from suing the company that manufactures, markets, and profits from the product. Decoupling a company’s profit interest from its interest in safety is a moral hazard, and a departure from centuries of product liability doctrine. Yet we find ourselves in this truly extraordinary circumstance where not only must Americans take this product under penalty of expulsion from work, school, the military and civil life, but they cannot sue Pfizer for any resulting injuries.

And who has created this unprecedented situation? The Executive Branch, normally with little or no input from the other branches. It has granted the immunity, licensed the product, and aggressively implemented or demanded mandates. This therefore requires unprecedented transparency. When Americans cannot say “no” and cannot sue Pfizer for harm, then the FDA should also not be able to say “no” to forthwith releasing the Pfizer vaccine data. If the administration wants Americans to be subject to its mandates, Americans must at least be granted the dignity of access to the data supposedly supporting the safety and efficacy of Pfizer’s liability-free vaccine so that independent scientists can conduct a timely review.

Even President Joe Biden, when truth was original to him as candidate Joe Biden, on January 28, 2020, told the American people that, “You’ve got to make all of it [the vaccine data] available to other experts across the nation so they can look and see, so there’s a consensus this is a safe vaccine.” (App000338 ¶ 2.) On September 7, 2020, on national television, he stated:

I get asked the question, if … President [Trump] announced tomorrow we have a vaccine, would you take it? Only if it was completely transparent and other experts in the country could look at it. Only if we knew all of what went into it.


(App000338 ¶ 3.) And then he again said to the American people that we need “total transparency so scientists outside the government know exactly what is being approved.” (App000339 ¶ 4.) Fifteen U.S. Senators, all caucusing Democrats, similarly stated as follows in a letter to the FDA:

Full transparency throughout the review and authorization process is thus essential to countering real or perceived politicization and building public confidence in any approved vaccine. … In addition to the efforts FDA has already made to publish its recommendations regarding data needed for clinical development and licensure of vaccines, a transparent review process will require that FDA … make the data generated by clinical trials and supporting documents submitted to the FDA by developers available to the public.


(App000339 ¶ 8.) Numerous Republicans have also demanded immediate release of the documents. For example, Congressman Ralph Norman recently stated:

The FDA’s only priority should be the health and safety of consumers. The agency has compromised its integrity by delaying information that belongs to the public. Since the Biden administration is hell-bent on forcing these vaccine mandates on us, the public has every right to know how this vaccine was approved, especially in such a short amount of time. After all, the FDA managed to consider all 329,000 pages of data and grant emergency approval of the Pfizer vaccine within just 108 days. So it’s hard to rationalize why it now needs 55 years to fully release that information to the public.


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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby maple syrup » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:19 am

"So as not to stretch the thread with an unnecessarily lengthy stream of invective against timewasters. 2. To give nasty syrupy dimwitted little mercs like you [Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:02 am] the opportunity to whinge about how cwuelly you're being mistweated."

Psychologically speaking, there is only one reason why a person would traffik in character assassination, as opposed to engaging in nominal dialogue. But a sharp lad like yourself must be aware of that already.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:36 am

Was checking up on the dissodent left and fucking Slavoj Zizek is on Chapo Trap House unashamedly calling himself a classical totalitarian(his own words not mine) and advocating for obligatory vaccination. He makes the argument, as any sly philosopher would, that because the unvaccinated have "had to be" restricted in their everyday freedoms, that removing their freedom to choose whether or not they can be unvaccinated would give them more freedom. Which I admit, makes perfect sense if you are in fact a totalitarian.
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