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Postby 0_0 » Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:28 pm

I'm angry too! Angry about all this crazy shit! And imo these dance videos are being used as a feel good angle to sell increasing fascism. Just like Boris Johnson going to the IC for 3 days. And like the "spontaneous" clapping. And all the other human angles that are used to emotionally manipulate people to not have a cold hard look at the numbers that are supposed to justify this madness. That's why i feel taking a skeptical look at them is justified. And it's nothing against the nurses themselves, i have no doubt they are in general overworked and stressed out, and have been for a long time. Just going shopping has been turned into a very complicated thing, so i can only imagine how the procedures in care have been complicated day by day. And lots of jobs in hospitals and care *will* disappear because of all this, so they have very real reasons to be worried. And since they are forbidden to speak by their employer, we can only guess what's really happening there. That hospitals now have a financial incentive to report procedures and deaths as covid-related might or might not have something to do with not allowing them to speak freely. Compared to the onslaught of mainstream media, these videos of small youtube channels are just a little bit of fighting fire with fire as i see it. Like a little chihuahua barking at a pack of wolves. Here's another one:

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Postby alloneword » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:44 pm

Some actual data:

Figures from the national NHS operational dashboard, seen by HSJ, show that 40.9 per cent of NHS general acute beds were unoccupied as of the weekend — 37,500 of the total 91,600 relevant beds recorded in the data. That is 4,500 more than the 33,000 the NHS said had been freed up on 27 March, and nearly four times the normal amount of free acute beds at this time of year.

https://www.hsj.co.uk/acute-care/nhs-ho ... 92.article

Also of note:

Internal NHS figures from the covid-19 national operational dashboard state that, on Saturday, English acute trusts reported that 41,038 nurses and midwives were absent . 28,063 (68 per cent) were covid-19 related. The total nursing and midwifery headcount in acute trusts is about 280,000 — meaning roughly 10 per cent are off on covid-related absence.

There are ongoing complaints from staff about their access to covid-19 tests — which, it is hoped, will hope reduce the absence rates from suspected cases — while national officials say these are now being made available.

Across all acute trust staff, 122,144 in total are absent. 82,075 of these absences are covid-related (67 per cent). The total acute headcount is 943,513 — so about 8.7 per cent of the total are absent for covid-related reasons.

The rate is lower among doctors: 9,239 were absent of which 7,633 (83 per cent) were covid-related. Total medical and dental acute headcount is 113,420 — so about 6.7 per cent were absent for covid-related reasons.

https://www.hsj.co.uk/workforce/one-in- ... 94.article
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Postby JackRiddler » Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:20 pm

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It's data, sure, but what does it mean? Haven't they canceled elective (and for all we know some number of necessary) surgeries? Haven't they encouraged people to stay home unless they are very sick? Aren't many terrified of getting the virus and thus avoiding hospital? (Also, not going out and seeking not to breathe in?) Hasn't the rate of motor vehicle and other accidents plunged?

Given all that, if the NHS has not been overwhelmed by C19 cases so far, then the pharmocrats will celebrate how the measures flattened the curve. The doubters will see further indication that the C19 death rate is lower than widely claimed. The hoax faction will do whatever they do, mock nurses for being lazy, or say the zinc cured G5. The panic-mongers will warn that the enemy virus is doing rope-a-dope, that immunity is impossible, that Scientist Sez a billion people will die in the August wave, that civilization will collapse by fall -- which it may do anyway -- etc. Trump will do an infomercial for hydroxychloroquine.

Do you know the UK excess death data for 2020?

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Postby alloneword » Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:18 pm

What do they mean? As you suggest, they mean whatever people want them to mean. Since the NHS decided to discontinue publishing of the ICU bed availability, they're pretty much the only measure we've got when attempting to gauge how the NHS is coping.

But yes, all elective cancelled, outpatients depts of every stripe and the GP surgeries that would normally refer to them all effectively shuttered, health visitors operating via phone where at all, etc. etc... The backlog this is creating (in both numbers and the urgency) is mounting daily and when the dam breaks the systems that were already struggling before this 'crisis' are going to be utterly swamped.

An interesting (and I found counter-intuitive) thing about A&E (ER) admissions, though... Some figures from a few years ago indicated that in the UK it was accidents in the home that made up the largest proportion (41%), with leisure activities (25%) coming second, while roads (15%) and work (8%) related injuries were on the decline.

(Next ONS UK 'all mortality' stats should appear here tomorrow - I'll plot them on the usual thread).
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Postby JackRiddler » Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:32 pm

The accidents at home thing doesn't surprise me.

But in the absence of that data I'll guess those are down, also counter-intuitively, despite everyone being at home, because they are also being less active at home. For example, who's mounting ladders to do roof work, these days? But I'm not married to the idea, obviously.
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Postby 0_0 » Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:00 am

Army's Seattle Field Hospital Closes After 3 Days, Without Treating a Single Patient

Richard Sisk
Military.com•April 10, 2020


The hastily built field hospital set up by the Army in Seattle's pro football stadium is shutting down without ever seeing a patient, so the service can shift resources where they're more urgently needed, Washington state Gov. Jay Inslee said.

Medical equipment at the CenturyLink Field Event Center is being returned to the Federal Emergency Management Agency for use elsewhere, but the governor cautioned against reading too much into the move.

"Don't let this decision give you the impression that we are out of the woods," Inslee said in a statement Wednesday. "We have to keep our guard up and continue to stay home unless conducting essential activities to keep everyone healthy." Washington state saw the first coronavirus death in the U.S. on Feb. 29.

Related: Russia and China Are Spreading Lies About Coronavirus, Pentagon Says

The state asked FEMA and the Army Corps of Engineers to convert the football stadium "before our physical distancing strategies were fully implemented and we had considerable concerns that our hospitals would be overloaded with COVID-19 cases," Inslee said.

"But we haven't beat this virus yet and, until we do, it has the potential to spread rapidly if we don't continue the measures we've put in place," he said.

Inslee joined Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan in praising the work of the Army's 627th Hospital Center out of Fort Carson, Colorado, in setting up the field hospital, which closed only three days after opening for patients.

"These soldiers uprooted their lives to help Washingtonians when we needed them most. Since then, it's become apparent that other states need them more than we do," Inslee said.

Durkan said the judgment has been made that the state's hospitals currently have the capacity to deal with the coronavirus threat.

"We are making the right decision to allow other cities to have these resources and capacity," she said. "While Seattle fought hard for these resources, it's clear other communities are in desperate need of this high-quality medical facility and personnel."

The decision to close the Seattle field hospital comes amid early signs that the number of new cases could be hitting a plateau in New York, the epicenter of the coronavirus epidemic in the U.S., and other states.

At a news conference Friday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said, "Overall, New York is flattening the curve."

However, Army Lt. Gen. Todd Semonite, commander of the Army Corps of Engineers, said at a Pentagon briefing Thursday that he is aggressively pushing ahead to build more field hospitals and convert existing facilities, such as convention centers, when directed by FEMA at the request of the states.

"So far, to date, we have been asked to do 914 different [site] assessments. … This could be all the way from 2,000-bed convention center down to a 100-bed hotel room," Semonite said.

"There are about 22 facilities, which we call 'Tentative.' The governors haven't decided, the mayors haven't decided," he said. "It's an area where we're concerned about a bed shortage, but we haven't actually been told to do anything yet. So we haven't contracted it, and FEMA has not turned us on.

"This virus is deciding where it's going faster than normal, where it's leveling the curve, and so the actual build-out schedule -- we just kind of see how this thing actually has to play out," Semonite said.

-- Richard Sisk can be reached at Richard.Sisk@Military.com.

Read more: Hundreds of Marines Arrive in Guam to Help Virus-Stricken Carrier Crew


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Postby alloneword » Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:06 pm

JackRiddler » Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:32 am wrote: in the absence of that data I'll guess those are down


Well, you're not wrong:

Attendances

• The total number of attendances in March 2020 was 1,531,100, a decrease of 29.4% on the same month last year. Of these, attendances at type 1 A&E departments were 26.3% lower when compared with March 2019 and at type 3 departments were 34.7% lower.


https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... s-2019-20/

I'm trying to get a handle on what the typical breakdown (in terms of injury / condition) would be for UK A&E admissions - I know that such stats are collected, not sure where or even if they are published.

Also interested to know if there has been a corresponding decline in emergency (that is, 'unplanned') admissions, a large proportion of which don't go through A&E departments.

Going over all these stats/reports is really building up a picture of a population getting steadily older, sicker (increasing number of comorbidities) and poorer - hence ever increasing pressure on scarcer resources.
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Postby 0_0 » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:38 am

Just 19 patients treated over Easter weekend at 4,000-bed NHS Nightingale hospital in London
Few patients were treated at the new overflow facility as intensive care capacity at existing London hospitals never went above 80 per cent

Henry Bodkin
14 April 2020 • 8:37pm

The new 4,000-bed temporary NHS Nightingale hospital in East London treated just 19 patients over the Easter weekend, it has emerged.

Leaked data shows the tiny handful of patients were treated at the massive overflow facility as intensive care capacity at existing London hospitals never went above 80 per cent.

It comes as an NHS chief in the North East of England predicted the Nightingale hospital under construction there is unlikely to be needed.

Occupying London’s Excel conference and events centre, NHS Nightingale London was built in just nine days after a massive operation involving military planners.

Including 2,900 intensive care beds, it is principally intended to be a critical care facility for seriously ill but stable Covid-19 patients who have transferred from permanent London hospitals....

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source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... ghtingale/
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Postby lucky » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:41 am

@Aloneworld - a large % of Aand E admission are from drunk people over the weekend usually from being out in pubs/clubs etc this could explain lower numbers.
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Postby alloneword » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:15 am

That's what I thought, too, Lucky.

I believe the applicable medical term would be 'DFO' and 'DGT' patients - ('Drunk, Fell Over' and 'Drunk, Got Thumped').

But apparently not:

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https://files.digital.nhs.uk/F5/ACF07A/ ... ummary.pdf

Mondays at around 10AM looks to be the busiest. How much of that is due to hangovers, or possibly the result of what I've heard termed 'Powertool Mondays' (aka Bank Holidays), I'm not sure.

Anecdotally, though, I'm aware that the general level of abuse (verbal and physical) levelled at A&E/MIU staff and ambulance crew - mainly by drunk people on Fri/Sat nights - has been responsible for a disproportionate amount of staff shortages in some areas.
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Postby 0_0 » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:21 am

“The President of the German Hospital Association has sounded the alarm: more than 50 percent of all planned operations throughout Germany have been cancelled, and the „operations backlog“ is running into thousands. In addition, 30 to 40% fewer patients with heart attacks and strokes are treated because they no longer dare to go to the hospitals for fear of corona. There were 150,000 free hospital beds and 10,000 free intensive care beds nationwide. In Berlin, only 68 intensive care beds are occupied by corona patients, the emergency clinic with 1000 beds is currently not in use.”


quoted from yesterday's update at https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:07 pm

0_0 » Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:28 pm wrote:I'm angry too! Angry about all this crazy shit! And imo these dance videos are being used as a feel good angle to sell increasing fascism. Just like Boris Johnson going to the IC for 3 days. And like the "spontaneous" clapping. And all the other human angles that are used to emotionally manipulate people to not have a cold hard look at the numbers that are supposed to justify this madness. That's why i feel taking a skeptical look at them is justified. And it's nothing against the nurses themselves, i have no doubt they are in general overworked and stressed out, and have been for a long time. Just going shopping has been turned into a very complicated thing, so i can only imagine how the procedures in care have been complicated day by day. And lots of jobs in hospitals and care *will* disappear because of all this, so they have very real reasons to be worried. And since they are forbidden to speak by their employer, we can only guess what's really happening there. That hospitals now have a financial incentive to report procedures and deaths as covid-related might or might not have something to do with not allowing them to speak freely. Compared to the onslaught of mainstream media, these videos of small youtube channels are just a little bit of fighting fire with fire as i see it. Like a little chihuahua barking at a pack of wolves. Here's another one:



I sure hope I'll never again see one of this asshole's videos in a RI thread. Anyone who's wondering about these towers being some hidden in plain sight 5G evil is an idiot unable to do the simplest research that would reveal their true purpose - which is to collect tolls from vehicles using NYC tunnels and bridges. They or some slight variation are also found at every exit on the NYS Thruway. EZPASS, as it's termed in NYS.

Older vehicles have required an in-vehicle transmitter, while newer vehicles do not, as they are now included in all vehicle computer control devices.

Considering how limited 5G is in its distribution stateside it is unlikely to exacerbate the condition of the lungs of those infected across the world. Chemtrails spraying micro-machines that are activated by 5G signals is nuts, especially when compared to how a virus, this COVID-19 virus, actually functions within our cells. A virus is much less expensive to produce and much easier to spread without further assistance from humans.

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Postby DrEvil » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:23 pm

^^So sorry to hear that.
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Postby PufPuf93 » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:36 pm

Peace and my best to you and your family and friends Iamwhomiam. :hug1:
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Postby norton ash » Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:47 pm

Condolences, Iam.
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