The cure that's worse than the disease
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:03 pmI'm sure that this topic was touched on in other threads, but I thought it deserves its own thread. On this topic I value primary sources over any media, so people who experience these issues directly please comment. As the pandemic situation plays out, the thing that is most alarming to me is the absolute and total trust that is about to be invested in the pharmaceutical industry. Whenever they come up with anything at all to nominally address the Al-Covid pandemic, people are going to be so whipped into a frenzy of fear that they will accept anything. After all, Osama bin Corona was reportedly killed in Wuhan, China, but he might still be alive. He could be killed another 2 or 3 more times.
I can not see a way for the majority of the population to avoid forced pharmaceutical treatment and vaccination as a result of this. Bill Gates is already on TV talking about controlling people's movement based on vaccination status and he is obviously invested in that. The DHS has also said that people who intentionally spread the virus (whatever that means) could be charged with terrorism under the patriot because the virus counts as a biological weapon. People should examine the Lyme disease epidemic as an example of what happens when testing for a disease is impossible. Lyme disease testing is notoriously inaccurate, and more importantly there is no test or any way of knowing that a person has eliminated Borellia burdorferi from their body. That is beyond the ability of medical science to determine at this point. It is likely to be the same with the novel corona virus number 19 - who is to say that tests will be accurate, or if they will be able to differentiate between corona viruses. They probably will not. It is wrong to assume that medical science will be able to do do that - see Lyme disease. So even if people acquire natural immunity to this particular pandemic virus, there will be many more in the future to justify forced vaccination and treatment. There probably already are.
I'm sure mandatory vaccination has been discussed here at length, but I am wondering if there are any people willing to share perspectives on being vulnerable to this misguided policy. I will volunteer. Like 23.5 million people (7%) in the United States, I have an autoimmune illness. Those numbers are official and are likely to be much higher in reality due to lack of recognition by the medical system. I have Crohn's disease, a severe form of Inflammatory Bowel Disease. The name Crohn's disease is an arbitrary label based on symptoms of the intestines, not signifying any identified cause and effect as far as medical understanding is concerned. Inflammatory Bowel Disease is more severe than Irritable Bowel Syndrome, which involves a dysfunction of the bowels that is often related to the nervous system and its role in peristalsis, the rippling motion of the intestines that moves food through. Inflammatory Bowel Disease is diagnosed by colonoscopy once the patient starts seeing blood in their stool regularly. Ulcerative Colitis is when the inside of the colon gets ripped up by undigested food. When the terminal ilium is affected (the connection between the small and large intestines) and the damage spreads to the small intestine, that is considered "Crohn's disease". It should just be called "Shitting Blood". That would accurately convey how much medical science knows about this problem, and save me a lot of time explaining it to people.
The cause of autoimmune disease is unknown to medical science. There are many different manifestations of this phenomenon depending on the part of the body - intestines manifest IBD, neurons manifest MS and autism, skin manifests eczema, rashes, dandruff, and toenail fungus. There is also Celiac disease, Lupus, reumatoid arthritis, and a long list of others. Manifestations can be mild to life-threatening to deadly. Common seasonal allergies are a manifestation of autoimmunity which is basically a catch-all term for any phenomenon involving the immune system getting confused and attacking one's own body. In the absence of a known root cause, the current medical system routinely treats symptoms with drugs that provide temporary relief and then later make the problem worse. First steroids, and when that stops working they give people immune system suppressing drugs to mitigate the dysfunctional action of the immune system. In a temporary crisis scenario (when pharmaceutical medicine shines) this might make sense, but since autoimmunity is a chronic condition the results are absolutely catastrophic. Taking these drugs means effectively giving one's self AIDS - an acquired immune deficiency. Take for example the drug Humira, marketed for IBD and reumatoid arthritis, which lists side effects including lymphoma and tuberculosis.
Side note - "Humria" is a pun on the Greek word chimera, the multiple-animal-human hybrid of Greek mythology. The drug uses something called "chimerical monoclonal antibodies" which are used to suppress the immune system. To get these they give a lab mouse or other lab animal cancer, then harvest the immune system suppressing antibodies. Then they take those and mix them with some human derived material, and then do some proprietary processes that nobody else knows about. Then they inject it into a person. So it involves human and animal derivatives - chimera, Humira. I have also heard from other fellow patients that they are now giving people chemotherapy drugs to do the same thing. This is a whole topic unto itself, maybe someone might like to investigate it. It is a very RI kind of subject.
On the other hand there is medical cannabis. With a combination of both THC and CBD in equal proportion, my Crohn's disease can be put into total remission. This means that symptoms completely stop and the disease does not get worse as long as I have medicine. I still have an underlying problem and if I don't take medicine, I will progress to a worse stage of disease. But how bad is it to rely on a plant to stay alive, vs. an expensive drug? Everybody relies on plants (food) to survive anyway. An the price of cannabis is going down fast, unlike the price of pharmaceuticals. There are also many other non-pharmaceutical approaches that are valuable for treating a problem that pharmaceutical medicine is clearly clueless about. It would be great if we could have a health system that would subsidize those, but since Bernie is out of the race now, that obviously won't be happening for a while. It looks like we are going to have to learn this the hard way.
In debates about vaccination, proponents often claim that vaccination must be mandatory in order to protect vulnerable populations that have legitimate medical reasons to forego vaccination. Common sense and some basic information on the function of vaccines should make it obvious that autoimmune conditions will be exacerbated by vaccination, and especially excessive vaccination. Vaccines increase the activity of the immune system, and when the immune system is already attacking its own body, that action will also be increased. Some people could progress from minor symptoms to worse ones. In my case, getting any vaccinations could mean the total destruction of my large intestine and replacing it with a colostomy bag. But that wouldn't happen immediately - they would do many surgeries first to cut out pieces, fuse it back together, etc. because they want to make more money off of you. People who did that have told me you're much better off just taking out the whole worthless intestine at once, because once they start chopping it up you are pretty much guaranteed to eventually lose all of it.
Autoimmune conditions should qualify as a legitimate medical exemption from forced vaccination. Unfortunately, the financially conflicted profit driven medical system of the USA is in severe denial about autoimmune illness, and for the majority of people without the resources to defend themselves, that exemption is likely to be denied. People like me who already have severe problems can make the argument convincingly and might escape. The more serious issue is that beyond the 23.5 million recognized cases of autoimmune illness, there are very many more ones that are under the radar, and they will definitely not be given exemptions. That is, until they get vaccinated and get worse, or get worse for other reasons. The potential for massive death and permanent damage is huge, and it seems like the numbers could be a lot higher than the deaths from this one virus. Also don't forget to add the botched pharmaceutical treatment of COVID19, since they are not even bothering to do autopsies on the bodies. Plenty of people will get killed by the medical system that way too.
Some related topics that are relevant to this one - Lyme disease in general, military origin of the Lyme disease epidemic documented in "Lab 257" (Michael Carrol, 2012) and "Bitten" (Kris Newby, 2019), denial of chronic Lyme disease in the medical profession, Lyme disease causing precipitation of autoimmunity, the role of autoimmunity in autism and the vaccine connection, medical cannabis and immune-boosting mushrooms. I might post some more on those topics later. Mostly I'd like to hear thoughts on firsthand or secondhand experience, and ideas about how to survive in a medical police state.
For my part I would suggest farm work to anyone with the ability to do it. If you can live on the farm where you work that is even better. Make sure it is with people you like, of course. You're allowed to go outside, get exercise, have access to good food, talk to people, be in groups of people, and most importantly be in a wide open space that doesn't harbor pathogens. I mean, you have to be paranoid about ticks crawling on you and giving you Lyme disease in many places, but at least you can see ticks. And you can live most of your life without going through checkpoints and being indiscriminately stabbed with half-baked drugs. Farming is essential - I can't help but notice that farms are being left out of the heroic essential worker category. Come to think of it, you don't see much about farms in barely any media at all. It's like they would rather you just forget they exist. Just stay in your disease infested rat trap and watch TV, and be afraid. Supermarkets are important, even though they are only intermediaries that rent shelf space to vendors and don't produce anything of value. They are the heroes, we are giving the peons that work there an extra couple of bucks an hour. It is totally worth it to keep them as the main lifeline of our society, now that we know they are all deadly hazard zones.
I can not see a way for the majority of the population to avoid forced pharmaceutical treatment and vaccination as a result of this. Bill Gates is already on TV talking about controlling people's movement based on vaccination status and he is obviously invested in that. The DHS has also said that people who intentionally spread the virus (whatever that means) could be charged with terrorism under the patriot because the virus counts as a biological weapon. People should examine the Lyme disease epidemic as an example of what happens when testing for a disease is impossible. Lyme disease testing is notoriously inaccurate, and more importantly there is no test or any way of knowing that a person has eliminated Borellia burdorferi from their body. That is beyond the ability of medical science to determine at this point. It is likely to be the same with the novel corona virus number 19 - who is to say that tests will be accurate, or if they will be able to differentiate between corona viruses. They probably will not. It is wrong to assume that medical science will be able to do do that - see Lyme disease. So even if people acquire natural immunity to this particular pandemic virus, there will be many more in the future to justify forced vaccination and treatment. There probably already are.
I'm sure mandatory vaccination has been discussed here at length, but I am wondering if there are any people willing to share perspectives on being vulnerable to this misguided policy. I will volunteer. Like 23.5 million people (7%) in the United States, I have an autoimmune illness. Those numbers are official and are likely to be much higher in reality due to lack of recognition by the medical system. I have Crohn's disease, a severe form of Inflammatory Bowel Disease. The name Crohn's disease is an arbitrary label based on symptoms of the intestines, not signifying any identified cause and effect as far as medical understanding is concerned. Inflammatory Bowel Disease is more severe than Irritable Bowel Syndrome, which involves a dysfunction of the bowels that is often related to the nervous system and its role in peristalsis, the rippling motion of the intestines that moves food through. Inflammatory Bowel Disease is diagnosed by colonoscopy once the patient starts seeing blood in their stool regularly. Ulcerative Colitis is when the inside of the colon gets ripped up by undigested food. When the terminal ilium is affected (the connection between the small and large intestines) and the damage spreads to the small intestine, that is considered "Crohn's disease". It should just be called "Shitting Blood". That would accurately convey how much medical science knows about this problem, and save me a lot of time explaining it to people.
The cause of autoimmune disease is unknown to medical science. There are many different manifestations of this phenomenon depending on the part of the body - intestines manifest IBD, neurons manifest MS and autism, skin manifests eczema, rashes, dandruff, and toenail fungus. There is also Celiac disease, Lupus, reumatoid arthritis, and a long list of others. Manifestations can be mild to life-threatening to deadly. Common seasonal allergies are a manifestation of autoimmunity which is basically a catch-all term for any phenomenon involving the immune system getting confused and attacking one's own body. In the absence of a known root cause, the current medical system routinely treats symptoms with drugs that provide temporary relief and then later make the problem worse. First steroids, and when that stops working they give people immune system suppressing drugs to mitigate the dysfunctional action of the immune system. In a temporary crisis scenario (when pharmaceutical medicine shines) this might make sense, but since autoimmunity is a chronic condition the results are absolutely catastrophic. Taking these drugs means effectively giving one's self AIDS - an acquired immune deficiency. Take for example the drug Humira, marketed for IBD and reumatoid arthritis, which lists side effects including lymphoma and tuberculosis.
Side note - "Humria" is a pun on the Greek word chimera, the multiple-animal-human hybrid of Greek mythology. The drug uses something called "chimerical monoclonal antibodies" which are used to suppress the immune system. To get these they give a lab mouse or other lab animal cancer, then harvest the immune system suppressing antibodies. Then they take those and mix them with some human derived material, and then do some proprietary processes that nobody else knows about. Then they inject it into a person. So it involves human and animal derivatives - chimera, Humira. I have also heard from other fellow patients that they are now giving people chemotherapy drugs to do the same thing. This is a whole topic unto itself, maybe someone might like to investigate it. It is a very RI kind of subject.
On the other hand there is medical cannabis. With a combination of both THC and CBD in equal proportion, my Crohn's disease can be put into total remission. This means that symptoms completely stop and the disease does not get worse as long as I have medicine. I still have an underlying problem and if I don't take medicine, I will progress to a worse stage of disease. But how bad is it to rely on a plant to stay alive, vs. an expensive drug? Everybody relies on plants (food) to survive anyway. An the price of cannabis is going down fast, unlike the price of pharmaceuticals. There are also many other non-pharmaceutical approaches that are valuable for treating a problem that pharmaceutical medicine is clearly clueless about. It would be great if we could have a health system that would subsidize those, but since Bernie is out of the race now, that obviously won't be happening for a while. It looks like we are going to have to learn this the hard way.
In debates about vaccination, proponents often claim that vaccination must be mandatory in order to protect vulnerable populations that have legitimate medical reasons to forego vaccination. Common sense and some basic information on the function of vaccines should make it obvious that autoimmune conditions will be exacerbated by vaccination, and especially excessive vaccination. Vaccines increase the activity of the immune system, and when the immune system is already attacking its own body, that action will also be increased. Some people could progress from minor symptoms to worse ones. In my case, getting any vaccinations could mean the total destruction of my large intestine and replacing it with a colostomy bag. But that wouldn't happen immediately - they would do many surgeries first to cut out pieces, fuse it back together, etc. because they want to make more money off of you. People who did that have told me you're much better off just taking out the whole worthless intestine at once, because once they start chopping it up you are pretty much guaranteed to eventually lose all of it.
Autoimmune conditions should qualify as a legitimate medical exemption from forced vaccination. Unfortunately, the financially conflicted profit driven medical system of the USA is in severe denial about autoimmune illness, and for the majority of people without the resources to defend themselves, that exemption is likely to be denied. People like me who already have severe problems can make the argument convincingly and might escape. The more serious issue is that beyond the 23.5 million recognized cases of autoimmune illness, there are very many more ones that are under the radar, and they will definitely not be given exemptions. That is, until they get vaccinated and get worse, or get worse for other reasons. The potential for massive death and permanent damage is huge, and it seems like the numbers could be a lot higher than the deaths from this one virus. Also don't forget to add the botched pharmaceutical treatment of COVID19, since they are not even bothering to do autopsies on the bodies. Plenty of people will get killed by the medical system that way too.
Some related topics that are relevant to this one - Lyme disease in general, military origin of the Lyme disease epidemic documented in "Lab 257" (Michael Carrol, 2012) and "Bitten" (Kris Newby, 2019), denial of chronic Lyme disease in the medical profession, Lyme disease causing precipitation of autoimmunity, the role of autoimmunity in autism and the vaccine connection, medical cannabis and immune-boosting mushrooms. I might post some more on those topics later. Mostly I'd like to hear thoughts on firsthand or secondhand experience, and ideas about how to survive in a medical police state.
For my part I would suggest farm work to anyone with the ability to do it. If you can live on the farm where you work that is even better. Make sure it is with people you like, of course. You're allowed to go outside, get exercise, have access to good food, talk to people, be in groups of people, and most importantly be in a wide open space that doesn't harbor pathogens. I mean, you have to be paranoid about ticks crawling on you and giving you Lyme disease in many places, but at least you can see ticks. And you can live most of your life without going through checkpoints and being indiscriminately stabbed with half-baked drugs. Farming is essential - I can't help but notice that farms are being left out of the heroic essential worker category. Come to think of it, you don't see much about farms in barely any media at all. It's like they would rather you just forget they exist. Just stay in your disease infested rat trap and watch TV, and be afraid. Supermarkets are important, even though they are only intermediaries that rent shelf space to vendors and don't produce anything of value. They are the heroes, we are giving the peons that work there an extra couple of bucks an hour. It is totally worth it to keep them as the main lifeline of our society, now that we know they are all deadly hazard zones.
