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Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:25 pm wrote:stickdog99 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:10 am wrote:All we are saying is give knees a chance.
JackRiddler wrote:dada » Sun May 31, 2020 12:46 pm wrote:
Why don't you just say what you mean by "organized crime," if you mean anything.
.dada » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:35 am wrote:No, that's okay. I don't mean anything by it.
Here's a report I take to be credible.I'll tell you what we saw on Wooster Street in Soho last night. Cars pulling up in front of stores, changing their plates, kids looting and delivering goods to the cars. Agents provocateur? Protesters? Not in Soho last night. What we saw was people coming from wherever and conducting targeted looting of selected luxury stores.
brekin » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:57 pm wrote:liminalOyster » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:38 am wrote:The real existential threat to African American males currently is Covid and inequalities in health care
Seriously? Tell that to George Floyd et al. COVID and stuctural racism have been a big talking point on signs and in speeches at many protests, actually. People are also vast-majority wearing masks.
Seriously. Death by cop last 5-7 years hovers around 1,100 annually in US, about 3 a day. African Americans around 220-250 of that.
20,000 African Americans dead out of 100 K from Covid just 2-3 months in. But at least you are hearing it in speeches and seeing it on signs at these huge mass gatherings with zero social distancing.
Grizzly » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:56 pm wrote:liminalOyster
please add a source to these findings 'Floyd's autopsy came out today and (duh) he died of asphyxiation from having his neck crushed'.
Independent autopsy finds George Floyd's death a homicide due to 'asphyxiation from sustained pressure'
Amir Vera byline
By Amir Vera, CNN
Updated 4:03 PM ET, Mon June 1, 2020
(CNN)An independent autopsy found that George Floyd's death was a homicide and the unarmed black man died of "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."
The autopsy says compression to Floyd's neck and back led to a lack of blood flow to his brain.
Floyd was essentially "dead on the scene" in Minneapolis on May 25, said Ben Crump, attorney for the Floyd family. Multiple videos of Floyd's death show former police officer Derek Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck, along with other officers kneeling on his back.
Chauvin had his knee on Floyd's neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds in total and two minutes and 53 seconds after Floyd was unresponsive, according to a criminal complaint released by the Hennepin County Attorney's Office.
"The ambulance was his hearse," Crump told reporters Monday. "George died because he needed a breath. He needed a breath of air."
"There is no other health issue that could cause or contribute to the death," said Dr. Michael Baden, one of the independent medical examiners. "Police have this false impression that if you can talk, you can breathe. That's not true."
CNN reached out to Hennepin County officials after the press conference for comment.
A homicide is the death of a person caused by another person. It includes murder and manslaughter.
Chauvin is charged with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. Crump said he should be charged with first-degree murder.
The independent autopsy's findings come after the Hennepin County Medical Examiner found "no physical findings" to "support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation," according to the criminal complaint.
Preliminary autopsy results cited in the complaint said combined effects of being restrained, any potential intoxicants in Floyd's system and his underlying health issues, including heart disease, probably contributed to his death. Toxicology results can take weeks.
Floyd's cause and manner of death remain pending and is being investigated by local, state and federal law enforcement, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office said in a statement.https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/george-floyd-independent-autopsy/index.html
Cordelia » 01 Jun 2020 15:59 wrote:Re/ videos of Police taking a knee with protesters.
If spontaneous (or planned) responses on the part of the officers.....very touching.
If departmental planned photo-ops .....very savvy.
If both...
All they are saying...is give p'lice a chance.
(Imagine there are many, many very pissed-off cops over what Derek Chauvin did.)
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JackRiddler » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:39 pm wrote:.
I'll try one more time.JackRiddler wrote:dada » Sun May 31, 2020 12:46 pm wrote:
Why don't you just say what you mean by "organized crime," if you mean anything.
.dada » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:35 am wrote:No, that's okay. I don't mean anything by it.
Here's a report I take to be credible.I'll tell you what we saw on Wooster Street in Soho last night. Cars pulling up in front of stores, changing their plates, kids looting and delivering goods to the cars. Agents provocateur? Protesters? Not in Soho last night. What we saw was people coming from wherever and conducting targeted looting of selected luxury stores.
The idea of mob involvement in such a scene seems reasonable.
My objection if this is presented as the driving force of the uprisings.
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Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:10 pm wrote:This is their base in the streets, all they're gonna do is encourage the protests and try to make political hay from this opportunity.
Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:06 pm wrote:I haven't seen a single Democrat pundit or politician telling protesters to stay home, have you?
liminalOyster » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:09 pm wrote:Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:06 pm wrote:I haven't seen a single Democrat pundit or politician telling protesters to stay home, have you?
Yes. Jacob Frey, Eric Garcetti and the mayor of Santa Monica.The message, each time, is about letting the police clean up the bad guys. Probably others as well.
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