The Limits of Science

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The Humanley Podcast Episode 37

Episode 37: Dr. Valentina Kiselev - Do Germs Cause Disease?

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Feb 01, 2022

In this podcast, Dr. Valentina Kiselev joins me to discuss the germ theory, terrain theory, the issues surrounding virus isolation and her perspectives around the pandemic.

Dr. Valentina Kiselev(a)* is a graduate of St. Petersburg Pediatrics Medical University, independent expert on bioethics and biosecurity, health advocate.

For 15 years Valentina was an Executive Director of an Adult Day Health Center in Bellevue, WA, was a board member of multiple state and city community organizations, covering education, diversity and business development issues, served two terms on Bellevue Arts Commission, has extensive political and community background. In 2016 Valentina moved to St. Petersburg - her hometown in Russia, where she founded entrepreneur committee in collaboration with a political party, then engaged with the MSF - Doctors Without Boarders (Brussels Operational Center), where she started as a project coordinator for Saint Petersburg and vicinity, and then became personal Advisor for MSF HOM (Head of the Mission) in Russia. Valentina is a wife and a mother of two beautiful girls.

To contact Dr. Kiselev please check out her LinkedIn page or find her on Telegram;

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What Really Causes Influenza? Part 1

Written by Daniel Roytas (MHSc Human Nutrition), BHSc (Naturopathy), Dip. RM
Mar 05, 2022


Part 1 of 2 of this blog presents an overview of the studies that tried to prove a virus as the cause of influenza. Part 2 will hypothesize a number of potential causes of influenza.

Influenza is said to be caused by one of four viruses, namely influenza A, B, C and D1, however many people might be surprised to hear that none of these viruses have ever been observed in the bodily fluids of a human being. More surprisingly, isolated and purified viral particles have never been exposed to a healthy host and been shown to cause disease2,3. This is not due to lack of trying, or due to limitations of laboratory techniques, in fact, dozens upon dozens of experiments have been undertaken over many decades to try and transmit the influenza virus from sick people to healthy people.

The Most Important Influenza Study?

At the height of the Spanish Influenza epidemic between 1918-1919, the United States Navy and United States Health Department conducted almost 30 separate experiments to try and infect over 200 healthy sailors with Spanish Influenza. This was done by exposing the healthy sailors directly to infected sailors. They coughed and spat into each other’s mouths, had mucous and other bodily fluids sprayed and dropped into their eyes, noses and mouths, and had mucous and blood from sick people injected directly into their blood streams. They even took healthy men into quarantine camps full of infected sailors. They had conversations with each other, breathed all over each other, shook each other’s hands and slept in the same beds. In not a single case, did any of the healthy sailors become ill4.

However, these are not the only experiments that were undertaken. The studies mentioned below provide an insight in to just some of the experiments undertaken (presented in chronological order) to try and prove that influenza is caused by a transmissible virus;

Failed Contagion Experiments

1906 – Davis et al. attempted to infect 1 healthy person with influenza by injecting them with nasal secretions from an individual suffering from influenza. This person did not become ill5.

1917 – Dold et al. injected healthy people with the nasal secretions taken from one ill person, 0/40 healthy people became ill6.

1918 – Nuzum et al. conducted 2 separate experiments trying to infect healthy people by spraying mucous secretions taken from one ill person into their nasal passages, 0/7 became ill7.

1918 – Selter et al. took mucous secretions from 5 people and sprayed it into the noses and mouths of 2 healthy people, 0/2 became ill8.

1918 – Nicolle et al. injected monkeys with the bronchial secretions of sick people. Blood was then taken from the monkeys and injected in to healthy human participants, 0/2 became ill9.

1919 – Michelli et al. injected healthy people with mucous from ill people in 2 separate experiments, 0/18 became ill10.

1919 – Lister et al. took a group of healthy men to a deserted island and sprayed infected mucous into their eyes, noses and mouths, 0/11 became ill11.

1919 – Yamanouchi et al. sprayed infected mucous into the noses and throats of healthy men, 0/14 became ill12.

1919 – Wahl et al. attempted to infect healthy men by dropping mucous into their mouths and noses. 0/5 became ill. Similar experiments were attempted again one year later with another group of healthy men, 0/2 became ill13.

1920 - Bloomfield exposed healthy men to mucous secretions taken from sick people, 0/14 became ill14.

1920 - Schmidt et al. conducted two controlled experiments, exposing healthy people to the bodily fluids of sick people suffering influenza. Of 196 people exposed to the mucous secretions of sick people, 21 (10.7%) developed colds and three (1.5%) developed grippe (influenza). In the second group, of the 84 healthy people exposed to mucous secretions of sick people, five (5.9%) developed grippe and four (4.7%) developed colds. Of forty-three controls who had been inoculated with sterile physiological salt solutions eight (18.6%) developed colds. A higher percentage of people got sick after being exposed to saline compared to those being exposed to the “virus”15.

1920 – Cecil et al. believed influenza was caused by a bacteria and exposed healthy men to Pfieffer’s bacillus, the bacteria many doctors believed at the time was the cause of the flu. Interestingly, all 12 healthy participants fell ill with influenza-like-illness. How is this possible when the cause of influenza is supposedly a virus?14

1921 – Williams et al. exposed healthy men to the mucous secretions of sick people suffering influenza, 0/45 became ill6.

1924 – Robertson et al. took the mucous secretions from 16 influenza patients and exposed it to healthy men, 0/100 became ill15.

1937 – Burnet et al. exposed healthy men to the influenza virus via means of inoculation. Whilst this experiment was not designed to infect participants, it is interesting that despite being exposed to the virus, 0/200 became ill.

1940 – Francis et al. exposed healthy men to the mucous taken from an infected person, 0/11 became ill.

A Word On Viral Isolation

After these experiments (and many more like them) failed to prove the transmissibility of influenza (and other infectious diseases such as measles, chicken pox and Scarlet Fever), virology became all but obsolete and was forgotten about for over a decade until John Enders landmark study in 1954. In this experiment, Enders claimed he isolated the measles virus, breathing new life in to the field of virology. However, upon closer examination of Enders’ methodology, it is plain to see that his claims of viral isolation are based upon shaky unscientific methodology and assumptions. Rather than isolating an actual viral particle, Enders exposed kidney cells to unfavourable conditions in a petri dish, by adding in toxic substances (such as antibiotics, antifungals, animal blood, trypsin) and starving the cells. When the cells died, he claimed it was due to a virus and pointed at indiscriminate particles under a microscope, claiming they were the “virus”. These particles were never isolated and exposed to a healthy host and shown to cause disease. To this day, this process is considered the “gold standard” of virus isolation and is considered proof that viruses cause disease16.

Recent Infection & Transmission Experiments

There are a number of more recent human challenge experiments, where volunteers have been experimentally infected with an influenza virus and then housed with another group of healthy volunteers, in an attempt to prove transmission. At first glance, it would seem that illness is indeed induced in the volunteers exposed to the virus and then successfully transmitted to the healthy volunteers living with them17,18, however upon closer examination, things aren’t always what they seem. There are a number of obvious issues that arise upon closer review of the methodology of these experiments.

Firstly, it is not abundantly clear if an isolated virus is being exposed to the recipients, the authors only mention that the virus was manufactured and processed under current “good manufacturing practices” (GMP). What does this mean exactly? How did they isolate the virus and why do they not disclose the “GMP” in their methodology? Are people having a toxic cell culture containing dead and dying cells, antibiotics, animal blood and other toxic chemicals sprayed up into their nasal passages (after all, this is the way a virus is supposedly isolated)? How do we know that it isn’t the act of spraying something up a person’s nose that is inducing localised symptoms and not the virus? Previous experiments have concluded that transient influenza-like symptoms (runny nose & cough) are caused by spraying various solutions into people’s nasal passages4.

Secondly, in these experiments, 0/4017 and 2/1518 people who lived with infected people, under tightly controlled experimental conditions, for several days, became ill. How is it possible that under such conditions, modern day scientists were still unable to show clear proof of viral transmission, despite all of the technological advancements that have occurred since the previous failed contagion experiments that occurred 100 years prior?

Given the lack of rigorous scientific evidence proving that influenza is indeed caused by a virus, how can anyone with a critical mind blindly accept and then take the position of a virus being the irrefutable cause of this common illness? The next question that must be answered is, if not a virus, then what is the cause of influenza? Unfortunately, because we have been so focused on a germ as the cause of disease, basically zero investigation has been undertaken to identify the true cause of what we call a “contagious viral illness”.

Stay tuned for part 2 of this blog, where the potential causes of what might be causing influenza will be hypothesized.

References

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Cowan T, Fallon S. The Contagion Myth. Skyhorse; 2021.
Engelbrecht T, Koehnlein C, de Harven E, Bailey S, Scoglio S. Virus Mania: How the Medical Industry Continually Invents Epidemics, Making Billion-Dollar Profits at Our Expense. 3rd ed. Books on demand; 2021.
Rosenau MJ. Experiments to determine mode of spread of influenza. Journal of the American Medical Association. 1919;73(5):311-313. doi:10.1001/jama.1919.02610310005002
Walker J. Infection of Laboratory Worker with Bacillus Influenzae. Journal of Infectious Diseases. 1928;43(4).
Long P, Doull J. Etiology of Acute Upper Respiratory Infection, (Common Cold). Exp Biol Med. 1930;28(1):53-55.
Nuzum JW. Pandemic Influenza And Pneumonia In A Large Civil Hospital. JAMA: The Journal of the American Medical Association. 1918;71(19):1562. doi:10.1001/jama.1918.26020450009011a
Selter H. Zur Aetiologie der Influenza. DMW - Deutsche Medizinische Wochenschrift. 1918;44(34):932-933. doi:10.1055/s-0028-1134625
Nicolle C, Lebailly C. Quelques notions expérimentales sur le virus de la grippe. Comptes rendus de l’Académie des Sciences. 1918;167.
Michelli F, Satta G. On the etiological problem of today’s influenza pandemic. Journal of the Royal Academy of Medicine of Turin. Published online 1919:115-136.
Lister F, Taylor E. Experimental Investigation of Epidemic Influenza at Durban. Public South African Inst Med Res. 1919;12(9).
Yamanouchi T, Sakakami K, Iwashima S. The Infecting Agent of Influenza. The Lancet. 1919;1(971).
Wahl R, George B, Lyall H. Some Experiments on the Transmission of Influenza. The Journal of Infectious Diseases. 1919;25(5).
Cecil R, Steffen G. Acute Respiratory Infection in Man following Inoculation with Virulent Bacillus influenzae. The Journal of Infectious Diseases. 1921;28(3).
Robertson RC, Groves RL. Experimental human inoculations with filtered nasal secretions from acute coryza. Journal of Infectious Diseases. 1924;34(4):400-406. doi:10.1093/infdis/34.4.400
Enders JF, Peebles TC. Propagation in Tissue Cultures of Cytopathogenic Agents from Patients with Measles. Experimental Biology and Medicine. 1954;86(2):277-286. doi:10.3181/00379727-86-21073
Nguyen-Van-Tam JS, Killingley B, Enstone J, et al. Minimal transmission in an influenza A (H3N2) human challenge-transmission model within a controlled exposure environment. PLoS pathogens. 2020;16(7):e1008704. doi:10.1371/journal.ppat.1008704
Killingley B, Enstone JE, Greatorex J, et al. Use of a Human Influenza Challenge Model to Assess Person-to-Person Transmission: Proof-of-Concept Study. The Journal of Infectious Diseases. 2012;205(1):35-43. doi:10.1093/infdis/jir701

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What Really Causes Influenza? Part 2

Written by Daniel Roytas (MHSc Human Nutrition), BHSc (Naturopathy), Dip. RM
Mar 08, 2022


In part 1 of this blog, an overview of some of the most important experiments conducted to try and prove that influenza was caused by a contagious virus were discussed in detail. Despite the most desperate attempts by scientists and doctors to make healthy people sick, every single attempt failed. Part 2 of this blog post aims to answer two questions. Firstly, what is the original proof showing that a virus causes influenza? Secondly, if not a virus, then what other plausible explanations are there?

It’s important to note that whilst a number of potential alternative causes of influenza will be discussed in this blog, these are only hypotheses and not claims.

The Discovery of Influenza

How did we get to the point where we “believe” that a virus causes influenza (or any infectious disease for matter)? An assumption was made, that a sick person was able to transmit a “germ” to a healthy person and make them sick. When scientists looked under the microscope of bodily fluids taken from a sick person, they saw bacteria present within the samples and assumed these were the cause of influenza. Yet when experiments failed to induce illness by exposing healthy people to bacteria, it was assumed there must be an even smaller microscopic particle responsible for the observed phenomena. This unknown, invisible microscopic particle was defined as a “virus”, a name given to a particle that had yet to be discovered. It’s important to note that to this very day, a “virus” has never been observed in, or isolated from the bodily fluids of a sick person or animal. Even more concerning is that a virus has never been exposed to a healthy host and shown to cause disease1,2. For more information about how a virus is “isolated” please refer to part 1 of this blog post.

How was the influenza virus first discovered and proven to cause illness? In 1933, Smith and Andrews published a paper claiming to have obtained an infectious virus from an influenza patient3. The methodology of this paper is as follows. Mucous was taken from one sick person and put through a filter to remove all impurities apart from the (assumed) “virus”. After many unsuccessful attempts to infect humans and animals like monkeys, rabbits, dogs, rats and mice, the filtered mucous was injected subcutaneously and sprayed into the nasal cavities of two ferrets. The ferrets had a rise in body temperature, watery eyes and nasal discharge. Not surprisingly, these symptoms were not replicated when they (Smith & Andrews) tried to infect other ferrets the same way. Some ferrets only had slight elevations in temperature, some had mild symptoms and no temperature, whilst others had no symptoms at all3.

Smith and Andrews concluded that these findings were proof of the existence of the influenza virus and the rest is history. How anyone can take this as proof of anything is remarkable in itself. The leaps in logic are questionable to say the least, especially when no other animal or human was ever able to be infected in hundreds of other experiments conducted by countless other researchers. How can some non-specific symptoms that occurred in a couple of ferrets after being injected with mucous and kept under unknown experimental conditions, provide any real insight in to the true nature of influenza?

If Not a Virus, What Causes Influenza?

Given that there is little rigorous scientific evidence proving that influenza is caused by a virus (see blog post 1 for more information), the next question that naturally comes to mind for most people is, what is the cause of influenza? It’s important that we don’t make presuppositions and invent new alternative unscientific explanations out of thin air as to the cause of influenza and other infectious diseases. Doing such a thing would simply be a repeat of precisely what scientists and doctors did 120 years ago when they assumed germs were the cause of disease. It’s not as simple as just making up an alternative explanation and running with it. The answer must be arrived at through the scientific method which involves the formulation of new hypotheses, the validation of these hypotheses through a series of rigorous, systematic and methodological experiments and the replication of these experiments by others.

Whilst it’s important not to jump to alternative conclusions, this is not to say that other viable hypotheses do not exist and should not be put forward and investigated further. Dozens of alternative potential causes have been postulated before and after the invention of the “germ theory”, however these have never been diligently investigated. Anyone who proposed an alternative perspective was either silenced or had their idea immediately quashed and labelled “conspiratorial” by dogmatic and fanatical supporters of the germ theory.

The reasons the true cause of influenza (and other infectious diseases) have never been investigated is two-fold. Firstly, the germ theory was forced upon a reluctant scientific and medical community to be accepted as fact, and then taught in colleges and universities by these doctors and scientists to naïve students, both of whom never questioned the validity of the supporting scientific evidence. Secondly, this “belief system” was propped up by the fear of reprisal for anyone who should question germ theory. Dissidents of the theory, had their names tarnished, and their careers and livelihoods threatened or destroyed. Whilst this fear of reprisal undoubtedly deterred most from challenging germ theory, many medical doctors and scientists have publicly challenged and voiced their concerns about the theory, but to no avail4,5.

Other Potential Causes of Influenza

In 1924 a paper published by the United States Public Health Service and Surgeon General proposed a number of alternative causes of the common cold and influenza6. The rapidity of the spread of influenza not only throughout communities, but between countries and entire continents, perplexed doctors and scientists at the time. It was apparent that the germ theory was not sufficient in explaining how influenza could arise almost simultaneously in cities hundreds and thousands of kilometres apart, especially during times when aeroplanes and automobiles did not exist. Quote “It (influenza) has travelled faster than the crow flies, yet who infected the Eskimos in the inaccessible far north, or the inhabitants of countries in the far south end of the globe at the same time as Europe and America?”.

A number of meteorological, geological and environmental factors are discussed in the paper in an attempt to explain the sudden and simultaneous outbreaks observed around the world. These factors include atmospheric temperature changes, atmospheric pressure, wind, humidity, floods, comets, earthquakes, cyclones, anti-cyclones, atmospheric ozone dispersal, solar activity, miasmas, chemical poisoning, living conditions, bacteria, viruses & bed bugs6.

Interestingly, there is continued and considerable ongoing discussion in the recent scientific literature about some of the relationships between influenza and air temperature7, absolute or specific humidity8, high wind speed9, atmospheric & celestial phenomena10, solar activity11 and sick building syndrome12. One must ask the question why these factors are still being discussed in the literature when the cause of influenza has supposedly been known for almost 90 years3.

Ships at Sea

Another interesting discussion point questioning the nature of contagion in the review paper related to influenza outbreaks on ships mid-voyage6. These ships left ports where no influenza was known or prevalent at the time of departure and none of the crew members were ill on departure. These outbreaks would occur weeks or months after setting sail, long after the generally accepted incubation period had ended. The following are some quotes taken from this report;

Quote “Influenza attacked the crew of an East Indianian on the voyage from Malacca to Canton so generally that scarcely a single person escaped; when they left Malacca the disease was not prevalent there, but when they arrived at Canton it transpired that their outbreak on board in the China Sea had happened at the very time when the disease was showing itself with equal intensity at Canton”.

Quote “The statement that influenza will thus break out in the mid-sea, without there being any possibility of the disease having been introduced on board, is a most important piece of evidence, as it would prove that the atmosphere can not only carry the poison, but that no degree of dilution can destroy it without denying the occurrence of such outbreaks”.

Quote “The following is a report of a slight epidemic of influenza in Sitka, Alaska in 1924. Members of the crew of two or three fishing vessels informed me that their illness started while at sea and after they had been at sea for a week or longer”.

How is it possible that crew members fell ill with influenza more than a week after setting sail? This is a peculiar observation, especially given the fact that the CDC says “the time from when a person is exposed and infected with flu to when symptoms begin is about 2 days, but can range from 1 to 4 days”. Were the ships crew falling ill because of a virus somehow travelling hundreds of kilometres out to sea, or is it possible that atmospheric or environmental changes were to blame?

Humidity

One interesting alternative explanation discussed in the 1924 paper lends credence to influenza being caused by changes in humidity and temperature. Quote “The injection of even a small a quantity as 6 c.c of pure distilled water into the blood produces a rise of body temperature which in some persons reaches 37.8⁰C (100⁰ F). Such a rise of body temperature quickly disappears on health and the temperature returns to normal. The explanation of this rapid rise of temperature is that the addition of even this small quantity of water to the blood increases the chemical changes that produce heat in the body. When a cool and moderately damp atmosphere becomes very damp one of its effects is that it causes a retention of water in the blood and tissues of the body, and consequently an increase in the chemical changes that produce heat in the body. When influenza is epidemic the explanation of the fact that some are immune and others suffer from the disease in different degrees of severity is afforded by the different proportions of water which are found in the blood and tissues of different individuals in health. All have not exactly the same proportion of water in their blood and tissues in health”6.

Whilst this explanation may seem far-fetched, you may be surprised to learn that a close relationship exists between humidity and influenza. A recent paper published in 2021 reported that humidity values are highly correlated with the onset of seasonal influenza. More specifically, it was found that there is a precise level of low humidity (specific for each region of the world) that may signal a flu outbreak is imminent8. This effect is so significant in fact, that government agencies are now using humidity levels in order to predict seasonal influenza outbreaks across the world12.

Toxin Exposure

There is considerable evidence showing a relationship exists between toxin exposure such as persistent organic pollutants (POPs) and the frequency of common cold and influenza “infections”. For example, prenatal exposure to POPs is associated with higher levels of POPs present in umbilical cord blood and the number of reported airway infections during the first 10 years of age13,14. This is supported by evidence from other studies showing a significantly increased risk of respiratory infections and POP exposure during childhood15 and adolescence16. Exposure to air pollution (POPs, ozone, particulate matter etc) is also associated with a greater rate of hospital admissions for respiratory infections like influenza in the general population17,18.

There are many factors well established in the scientific literature, that are known to induce influenza-like-illness, but are not viral in nature. The fact that toxin exposure, detoxification and withdrawal from drugs causes influenza-like-illness lends further plausibility to the hypothesis that influenza might be a detoxification response. A number of these non-viral causes of influenza-like-illness present with symptoms that are indistinguishable from so called “vial influenza”. Given that environmental exposure to various toxins can cause a disease so similar to influenza, that it is often misdiagnosed as such19–21, is it that big of a stretch to think that just maybe, influenza is the body’s response (ie antidote) to toxicity?

Below is a list of common environmental toxins and drugs which cause influenza-like-illness;

Toxins That Induce Influenza-Like-Illness

Organophosphate toxicity22

Pesticide exposure23

Air pollution24

Endotoxin & cytokine exposure25

Persistent organic pollutants (POPs)26

Metal fume fever27

Polymer fume fever28

Dippers flu29

Carbon monoxide toxicity19

Smoking cessation30

Electromagnetic radiation31

Drugs That Induce Influenza-Like-Illness

Caffeine withdrawal32

Opiate withdrawal33

Anti-depressant medication overdose34 & withdrawal35

Anticonvulsant medication withdrawal36

Oral contraceptives37

Chemotherapy38

A Detoxification Process?

Could influenza be a detoxification process initiated by the human body to cleanse itself of accumulated toxins, rather than being caused by an external pathogen? There has been recent discussion within the medical and broader health community as to whether or not influenza might be like a “spring clean” for the body. When a certain level of toxins accumulate in the bodily tissues, could an internal response be generated by the body? Could this detoxification process be triggered in order to purge toxins from an over-burdened system? At first this might seem like a far-flung theory, however upon closer inspection, the scientific literature reveals that flu like symptoms do occur in individuals after acute and chronic exposure to toxins39.

Let’s assume for one moment, that this theory of detoxification is plausible, what could trigger such an event? You may be surprised to learn there is a relationship between humidity and the levels of toxins in the atmosphere. It is well established that environmental toxins (both natural and man-made) are found in significantly higher concentrations in the atmosphere during the humid, Summer months40,41. As the humidity drops, so do the levels of atmospheric toxins and the subsequent human exposure to these toxins40.

It has already been established earlier in this blog post, that influenza outbreaks are triggered when the humidity drops to a specific level. The currently accepted reason behind this is that the low humidity dries out the mucous membranes of the nasopharynx and the lungs, leaving them more vulnerable to viral infection8. Is it possible, that the reduction in humidity, might instead signal the body to enter in to a period of convalescence and detoxification, in order to cleanse the body from the toxins accrued during the Summertime?

If we think about this logically, doesn’t it make perfect sense for the body to detoxify when the levels of environmental and atmospheric toxicity are at their lowest? Doesn't it also make sense for the body to start getting rid of mucous containing toxins during periods of low humidity (ie cool dry Winter air)? Have you ever tried drying your wet clothes outside on a very humid day, it doesn't work so well does it? This hypothesis might also explain why some people are seemingly immune to influenza. If they were exposed to low levels of toxins during the Summer, there may not be a sufficient toxic load for the body to initiate a detoxification process that Winter. It's also evident that not everyone gets sick in Winter, so could it be that individuals with a very high toxic burden, experience several detoxification events throughout the year due to sheer necessity, despite changes in humidity?

Toxins are known to accumulate in the body, not only from environmental exposure, but also from exposure to toxins contained within the food and water supply, drugs, personal care products (sunscreen, makeup, soaps etc) and cleaning products for example42,43. It is also well known that individuals who smoke cigarettes44 and abuse alcohol45, are at greater risk of influenza. Therefore, is it possible that people who have very low exposure to these toxins might undergo less frequent detoxification processes, which could explain why some people only get a flu once every 5-10 years?

There is evidence to suggest that toxins and POPs are excreted in bodily fluids such as breast milk and saliva46. Whilst we do know that the mucous within the respiratory tract traps and eliminates inhaled toxins47, to date there seems to be no studies investigating whether or not there is an increased concentration of toxins being excreted in the respiratory mucous during influenza and the common cold. Such evidence would be very useful in helping to determine whether these illnesses may indeed act as a detoxification process.

Final Thoughts

There has never been a more important time in human history for people to ask serious questions about what is really making humanity sick. We simply accept that influenza is caused by a virus because we have been conditioned to believe it is so. It’s unfathomable to most people that there could be any other rational explanation, so naturally, there is a resistance when this topic is brought up. Instead of questioning our reality, we simply take the words of men in white coats or those in positions of power, as gospel. Is it possible influenza is caused by a virus? Yes, of course. Is there any solid scientific evidence to prove that it is the cause? It’s possible that this evidence does exist, however in over 2 years of searching, neither myself, nor hundreds of other medical professionals and scientists who have looked in to this topic, have come across such evidence.

Now is the time for humanity, science and medicine to start thinking outside of the box when it comes to germ theory. We need to be able to have open and honest intellectual discussions about this topic to try and find out what really makes us sick. If we continue to believe that a germ is the cause when it (possibly) isn’t, we will always be barking up the wrong tree, resulting in continued declining health, ineffective treatments and prevention strategies, and continued intrusion upon basic human rights and freedoms, all in the name of "stopping the spread". Until the true underlying cause is identified and dealt with, it will continue bubbling away, insidiously destroying humanity, hidden behind the veil of an outdated and obsolete theory of the “germ”.

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"Ich kann gar nicht so viel fressen, wie ich kotzen möchte." - Max Liebermann,, Berlin, 1933

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." - Richard Feynman, NYC, 1966

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Postby conniption » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:22 am

From pg. 14 of this thread, back in early Feb. - Reiner Fuellmich interviews Dr. Andrew Kaufman & Dr. Stefan Lanka.

conniption » Sun Feb 06, 2022 7:57 am wrote:
Reiner Fuellmich interviews Dr. Andrew Kaufman & Dr. Stefan Lanka.


Dr. Andrew Kaufman & Dr. Stefan Lanka | Session 90: The Virus Of Power

Watch >>> https://odysee.com/@Corona-Investigativ ... on-90-en:a <<<

Corona Investigative Committee
@Corona-Investigative-Committee
February 5th, 2022

Dr. Andrew Kaufman - Psychiatrist
Dr. Stefan Lanka - Biologist and author

The Corona Committee was formed by four lawyers. It is conducting an evidence review of the Corona crisis and actions.

Learn more about the committee: https://corona-ausschuss.de/en

Anonymous tips to the Corona Committee: https://securewhistleblower.com

Dr. Reiner Fuellmichs english Telegram channel: https://t.me/s/ReinerFuellmichEnglish


A response from the Immanuel Project (which I didn't see at the time).

Immanuel Project

CIC, Session 90 – “The Virus of Power”

Feb 09, 2022

A missed opportunity?

A short statement on the 90th meeting of the (unofficial) German Corona Inquiry Committee, to which, amongst others, Dr Stefan Lanka and his colleague Dr Andrew Kaufman, were invited.


Immanuel Project aims to enlighten, to provide factual information from the fields of science and to take an appropriately neutral standpoint. Although we may occasionally criticise someone’s statements, decisions or actions, we do not attack anyone personally, nor do we take anyone’s side. Therefore, we do not want to say too much about this particular session, yet we would like to address certain statements made by Dr Wolfgang Wodarg on the subject of science and the virus evidence issue.

Without going into detail at this point, we feel that the session bore the inappropriate title, “The Virus of Power” and we too are very disappointed by the meeting itself and are of the opinion that the committee cannot claim to have made an attempt to seriously deal with the virus evidence issue.

The Corona Committee of Inquiry took a very combative approach towards the Corona Crisis many months ago, as Dr. Reiner Fuellmich himself has made clear in various interviews, they are primarily concerned with proving that the Corona crisis is a major, premeditated crime. This confrontational approach is already in stark contrast to Dr. Lanka’s more neutral approach which shows that the Corona Crisis is first and foremost the inevitable result of misguided developments in both science and society. No one denies that a great many entities from politics and business shamelessly exploit the Corona Crisis for their own purposes and interests. If the virus evidence issue and the work of Dr. Lanka had been seriously addressed, the Committee would automatically have had to question many of its previous findings, conclusions, accusations and expert opinions.

The investigative approaches taken are so contrasting, to the point that a genuine scientific discourse and cooperation appears to be out of the question. Therefore, in our view, one cannot speak of a wasted opportunity in the session, as there never was a real opportunity.

Will cooperation be conceivable at some point in the future? Will the parties involved make a second attempt and achieve a respectful dialogue? Time will tell, but at the moment we aren’t optimistic about this.
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To clarify a few things, here are a few comments on statements made by Dr. Wodarg on the topics of medicine, virology and ways out of the crisis...

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There is a more recent article concerning biolabs from the Immanuel Project -

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US-American biolabs in Ukraine

Mar 24, 2022

Politically explosive – scientifically irrelevant

Since the first public reports on this topic, we have once more received a number of letters asking us to comment on it. At first, we saw no need in raising the issue of biological weapons again, as we had actually already published a video explaining all the essential scientific and medical aspects. But when the inevitable rumours and theories started doing the rounds – a predictable response in such cases – it became clear that although the whole thing was not scientifically significant, it is nevertheless has a social significance, carrying with it a great deal of fear. We therefore decided to address the topic of biological weapons once again.

At this point, we draw your attention to our video “01: bioweapons – the myth of man-made pathogens”, which can be found in both on our video channels on Odysee, Gegenstimme and Bitchute. In that video we have already dealt with the theory of biological weapons and also explained why the modern concepts of man-made or modified pathogens cannot possibly be realised and therefore pose no danger. In this article, we will therefore not address these points in detail, but mention a few scientific aspects that have not yet been explained in our video, and also shed light on important social aspects. With that, nothing more needs to be said on the subject of biological weapons and so-called man-made pathogens. What remain are political or insignificant theoretical questions, which are not our topics.

A brief summary of the events...

... Snip ...


... Conclusion

All the political aspects of this matter are definitely debatable, there is no question about that. It remains to be seen as to who will produce irrefutable evidence about which intentions and actions against whom. Above all, two things are important:

1.) No matter what is being researched in any bio lab and what theoretical atrocities anyone is planning with man-made or modified pathogens, fortunately absolutely none of it will ever work. Chemical weapons are another matter altogether, but with regard to biological weapons, everyone can rest easy.

2.) What makes the issue relevant on a societal level is the fears associated with it. Convincing people that some enemy could or would like to use biological agents against them can lead to fear of death, hatred, despair and horrifying aggression. If those in positions of responsibility really wanted to protect the population in earnest, such action as we see on the part of politicians or oligarchs like Bill Gates can only be considered counterproductive and irresponsible, even within the framework of the pathogen theory.
A government that discovers or even has a reasonable suspicion that someone else’s biolabs are developing allegedly man-made pathogens that they intend to use as weapons may well feel compelled to take military preventive action. Another possibility is that such an accusation and alleged suspicion is used as a pretext for an attack. Of course, this is also possible at any time, and the only thing one can do is to hope that real weapons are not immediately deployed.

The matter once again makes it abundantly clear how crucial both the viral evidence issue and a need for a paradigm shift in medicine have become. How much fear, aggression, abuse of power, greed, political nonsense and social harassment would automatically fall away if we could finally leave behind the warlike good-evil thinking and the mechanical medical system and enter the world of real biology and a humane medicine?

The worst thing that can happen to us if we continue on this track is that we meet our own demise. And this doesn’t even have to come through war. Modern civilisation has already distanced itself so far from nature and, with gender ideology, for example, it is falling more and more into complete absurdity on a socio-political level. Instinctual consciousness and feeling and natural behaviour will soon be almost impossible. Such a society would provide the ideal conducive environment for all kinds of biological shock induced symptoms that certainly cannot be treated with toxic substances such as vaccines, antibiotics or chemotherapy!

The worst thing that can happen when we leave behind our mechanical, dead view of the world is the exertion of some effort in the process of discarding something old and replacing it with something new – in case anyone seriously perceives this as negative. There is no need for vaccines, for the WHO or for the pharmaceutical industry – just in case anyone seriously perceives that as negative.

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Immanuel Project

About this Project

Why are we doing this?

Anyone who speaks critically on the subject of Corona is considered a conspiracy theorist and a “Corona denier”. To deny something is to negate something that is factually proven. However, is COVID-19 and SARS-CoV-2 actually proven? Are a large proportion of the respiratory disease cases worldwide in 2020 actually due to one and the same cause?

This project is about subjecting the scientific basis of the so-called “Corona pandemic” to a detailed, scientific examination and asking the provocative but absolutely necessary question:

Is it actually possible to refute Corona? Should a serious scientist not in fact claim it’s existence at all?

Who are we?

We are a small group of independent filmmakers working together with the natural scientist and virologist Dr. rer. nat. Stefan Lanka, who from the beginning publicly challenged the scientific basis of the “corona crisis”. You can find all of Dr. Lanka’s important texts on the subject of Corona at http://wissenschafftplus.de/cms/de/wichtige-texte

Our goals

“Have the courage to use your own mind.”
… and take personal responsibility!


We don’t want to hear any more theories and expert opinions on Corona. We only want to see hard facts! This project is not about expert opinions, guesses, consensus and hypotheses. It is only about what has been scientifically proven, what is logical and comprehensible. With this project, we want to give everyone the opportunity to finally find out for themselves about corona. All the important technical terms and scientific methods needed to understand the publications on SARS-CoV-2 are explained in detail and in a way that is easy to understand. By means of animations in the videos and many examples, even complicated technical procedures or biological processes will be illustrated.

Dedication

We devote our attention, our actions and this project to all those people who are contributing to transforming the Corona Panic into an opportunity for all, and thank each and every one of them who, within their means, are contributing to the preservation of freedom, justice, health and humanity in the world.

https://projekt-immanuel.de/en/about-this-project/
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The Revolution That Didn't Happen

STEVEN WEINBERG

I first read Thomas Kuhn's famous book The Structure of Scientific Revolutions1 a quarter-century ago, soon after the publication of the second edition. I had known Kuhn only slightly when we had been together on the faculty at Berkeley in the early 1960s, but I came to like and admire him later, when he came to MIT. His book I found exciting.

Evidently others felt the same. Structure has had a wider influence than any other book on the history of science. Soon after Kuhn's death in 1996, the sociologist Clifford Geertz remarked that Kuhn's book had "opened the door to the eruption of the sociology of knowledge" into the study of the sciences. Kuhn's ideas have been invoked again and again in the recent conflict over the relation of science and culture known as the science wars.

Structure describes the history of science as a cyclic process. There are periods of "normal science" that are characterized by what Kuhn sometimes called a "paradigm" and sometimes called a "common disciplinary matrix." Whatever you call it, it describes a consensus view: in a period of normal science, scientists tend to agree about what phenomena are relevant and what constitutes an explanation of these phenomena, about what problems are worth solving and what is a solution of a problem. Near the end of a period of normal science a crisis occurs—experiments give results that don't fit existing theories, or internal contradictions are discovered in these theories. There is alarm and confusion. Strange ideas fill the scientific literature. Eventually there is a revolution. Scientists become converted to a new way of looking at nature, resulting eventually in a new period of normal science. The "paradigm" has shifted.

To take an example given special attention in Structure, after the widespread acceptance of Newton's physical theories—the Newtonian paradigm—in the eighteenth century, there began a period of normal science in the study of motion and gravitation. Scientists used Newtonian theory to make increasingly accurate calculations of planetary orbits, leading to spectacular successes like the prediction in 1846 of the existence and orbit of the planet Neptune before astronomers discovered it. By the end of the nineteenth century there was a crisis: a failure to understand the motion of light. This problem was solved through a paradigm shift, a revolutionary revision in the understanding of space and time carried out by Einstein in the decade between 1905 and 1915. Motion affects the flow of time; matter and energy can be converted into each other; and gravitation is a curvature in space-time. Einstein's theory of relativity then became the new paradigm, and the study of motion and gravitation entered upon a new period of normal science.

Though one can question the extent to which Kuhn's cyclic theory of scientific revolution fits what we know of the history of science, in itself this theory would not be very disturbing, nor would it have made Kuhn's book famous. For many people, it is Kuhn's reinvention of the word "paradigm" that has been either most useful or most objectionable. Of course, in ordinary English the word "paradigm" means some accomplishment that serves as a model for future work. This is the way that Kuhn had used this word in his earlier book2 on the scientific revolution associated with Copernicus, and one way that he continued occasionally to use it.


The first critic who took issue with Kuhn's new use of the word "paradigm" in Structure was Harvard President James Bryant Conant. Kuhn had begun his career as a historian as Conant's assistant in teaching an undergraduate course at Harvard, when Conant asked Kuhn to prepare case studies on the history of mechanics. After seeing a draft of Structure, Conant complained to Kuhn that "paradigm" was "a 1 Thomas S. Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions (University of Chicago Press, 1962; second edition, 1970), quoted below as Structure. This essay is based in part on the author's 1997 Bohner Lecture at Rice University, delivered as part of its yearlong symposium on the work of Thomas Kuhn, and on a 1998 colloquium talk given at the Department of Physics at Harvard University. (back)

2 Thomas S. Kuhn, The Copernican Revolution (Harvard University Press, 1957). (back)
word you seem to have fallen in love with!" and "a magical verbal word to explain everything!" A few years later Margaret Masterman pointed out that Kuhn had used the word "paradigm" in over twenty different ways. But the quarrel over the word "paradigm" seems to me unimportant. Kuhn was right that there is more to a scientific consensus than just a set of explicit theories. We need a word for the complex of attitudes and traditions that go along with our theories in a period of normal science, and "paradigm" will do as well as any other.

What does bother me on rereading Structure and some of Kuhn's later writings is his radically skeptical conclusions about what is accomplished in the work of science.3 And it is just these conclusions that have made Kuhn a hero to the philosophers, historians, sociologists, and cultural critics who question the objective character of scientific knowledge, and who prefer to describe scientific theories as social constructions, not so different from democracy or baseball.

Kuhn made the shift from one paradigm to another seem more like a religious conversion than an exercise of reason. He argued that our theories change so much in a paradigm shift that it is nearly impossible for scientists after a scientific revolution to see things as they had been seen under the previous paradigm. Kuhn compared the shift from one paradigm to another to a gestalt flip, like the optical illusion created by pictures in which what had seemed to be white rabbits against a black background suddenly appear as black goats against a white background. But for Kuhn the shift is more profound; he added that "the scientist does not preserve the gestalt subject's freedom to switch back and forth between ways of seeing."

Kuhn argued further that in scientific revolutions it is not only our scientific theories that change but the very standards by which scientific theories are judged, so that the paradigms that govern successive periods of normal science are incommensurable. He went on to reason that since a paradigm shift means complete abandonment of an earlier paradigm, and there is no common standard to judge scientific theories developed under different paradigms, there can be no sense in which theories developed after a scientific revolution can be said to add cumulatively to what was known before the revolution. Only within the context of a paradigm can we speak of one theory being true or false. Kuhn in Structure concluded, tentatively, "We may, to be more precise, have to relinquish the notion explicit or implicit that changes of paradigm carry scientists and those who learn from them closer and closer to the truth." More recently, in his Rothschild Lecture at Harvard in 1992, Kuhn remarked that it is hard to imagine what can be meant by the phrase that a scientific theory takes us "closer to the truth."

Kuhn did not deny that there is progress in science, but he denied that it is progress toward anything. He often used the metaphor of biological evolution: scientific progress for him was like evolution as described by Darwin, a process driven from behind, rather than pulled toward some fixed goal to which it grows ever closer. For him, the natural selection of scientific theories is driven by problem solving. When, during a period of normal science, it turns out that some problems can't be solved using existing theories, then new ideas proliferate, and the ideas that survive are those that do best at solving these problems. But according to Kuhn, just as there was nothing inevitable about mammals appearing in the Cretaceous period and out-surviving the dinosaurs when a comet hit the earth, so also there's nothing built into nature that made it inevitable that our science would evolve in the direction of Maxwell's equations or general relativity. Kuhn recognizes that Maxwell's and Einstein's theories are better than those that preceded 3 Kuhn was first trained as a physicist, and despite the presence of the wide-ranging word "scientific" in its title, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions is almost entirely concerned with physics and allied physical sciences like astronomy and chemistry. It is Kuhn's view of their history that I will be criticizing. I don't know enough about the history of the biological or behavioral sciences to judge whether anything I will say here also applies to them. (back)
them, in the same way that mammals turned out to be better than dinosaurs at surviving the effects of comet impacts, but when new problems arise they will be replaced by new theories that are better at solving those problems, and so on, with no overall improvement.


All this is wormwood to scientists like myself, who think the task of science is to bring us closer and closer to objective truth. But Kuhn's conclusions are delicious to those who take a more skeptical view of the pretensions of science. If scientific theories can only be judged within the context of a particular paradigm, then in this respect the scientific theories of any one paradigm are not privileged over other ways of looking at the world, such as shamanism or astrology or creationism. If the transition from one paradigm to another cannot be judged by any external standard, then perhaps it is culture rather than nature that dictates the content of scientific theories.

Kuhn himself was not always happy with those who invoked his work. In 1965 he complained that for the philosopher Paul Feyerabend to describe his arguments as a defense of irrationality in science seemed to him to be "not only absurd but vaguely obscene." In a 1991 interview with John Horgan, Kuhn sadly recalled a student in the 1960s complimenting him, "Oh, thank you, Mr. Kuhn, for telling us about paradigms. Now that we know about them, we can get rid of them." Kuhn was also uncomfortable with the so-called "strong program" in the sociology of science, which is "strong" in its uncompromisingly skeptical aim to show how political and social power and interests dominate the success or failure of scientific theories. This program is particularly associated with a group of philosophers and sociologists of science that at one time worked at the University of Edinburgh. About this, Kuhn remarked in 1991, "I am among those who have found the claims of the strong program absurd, an example of deconstruction gone mad."

But even when we put aside the excesses of Kuhn's admirers, the radical part of Kuhn's theory of scientific revolutions is radical enough. And I think it is quite wrong.

It is not true that scientists are unable to "switch back and forth between ways of seeing," and that after a scientific revolution they become incapable of understanding the science that went before it. One of the paradigm shifts to which Kuhn gives much attention in Structure is the replacement at the beginning of this century of Newtonian mechanics by the relativistic mechanics of Einstein. But in fact in educating new physicists the first thing that we teach them is still good old Newtonian mechanics, and they never forget how to think in Newtonian terms, even after they learn about Einstein's theory of relativity. Kuhn himself as an instructor at Harvard must have taught Newtonian mechanics to undergraduates.


In defending his position, Kuhn argued that the words we use and the symbols in our equations mean different things before and after a scientific revolution; for instance, physicists meant different things by mass before and after the advent of relativity. It is true that there was a good deal of uncertainty about the concept of mass during the Einsteinian revolution. For a while there was talk of "longitudinal" and "transverse" masses, which were supposed to depend on a particle's speed and to resist accelerations along the direction of motion and perpendicular to it. But this has all been resolved. No one today talks of longitudinal or transverse mass, and in fact the term "mass" today is most frequently understood as "rest mass," an intrinsic property of a body that is not changed by motion, which is much the way that mass was understood before Einstein. Meanings can change, but generally they do so in the direction of an increased richness and precision of definition, so that we do not lose the ability to understand the theories of past periods of normal science.

Perhaps Kuhn came to think that scientists in one period of normal science generally do not understand the science of earlier periods because of his experience in teaching and writing about the history of science. He probably had to contend with the ahistorical notions of scientists and students, who have not read original sources, and who believe that we can understand the work of the scientists in a revolutionary period by supposing that scientists of the past thought about their theories in the way that we describe these theories in our science textbooks. Kuhn's 1978 book4 on the birth of quantum theory convinced me that I made just this mistake in trying to understand what Max Planck was doing when he introduced the idea of the quantum.
It is also true that scientists who come of age in a period of normal science find it extraordinarily difficult to understand the work of the scientists in previous scientific revolutions, so that in this respect we are often almost incapable of reliving the "gestalt flip" produced by the revolution. For instance, it is not easy for a physicist today to read Newton's Principia, even in a modern translation from Newton's Latin. The great astrophysicist Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar spent years translating the Principia's reasoning into a form that a modern physicist could understand. But those who participate in a scientific revolution are in a sense living in two worlds: the earlier period of normal science, which is breaking down, and the new period of normal science, which they do not yet fully comprehend. It is much less difficult for scientists in one period of normal science to understand the theories of an earlier paradigm in their mature form.
I was careful earlier to talk about Newtonian mechanics, not Newton's mechanics. In an important sense, especially in his geometric style, Newton is pre-Newtonian. Recall the aphorism of John Maynard Keynes, that Newton was not the first modern scientist but rather the last magician. Newtonianism reached its mature form in the early nineteenth century through the work of Laplace, Lagrange, and others, and it is this mature Newtonianism—which still predates special relativity by a century—that we teach our students today. They have no trouble in understanding it, and they continue to understand it and use it where appropriate after they learn about Einstein's theory of relativity.
Much the same could be said about our understanding of the electrodynamics of James Clerk Maxwell. Maxwell's 1873 Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism is difficult for a modern physicist to read, because it is based on the idea that electric and magnetic fields represent tensions in a physical medium, the ether, in which we no longer believe. In this respect, Maxwell is pre-Maxwellian. (Oliver Heaviside, who helped to refine Maxwell's theory, said of Maxwell that he was only half a Maxwellian.) Maxwellianism—the theory of electricity, magnetism, and light that is based on Maxwell's work—reached its mature form (which does not require reference to an ether) by 1900, and it is this mature Maxwellianism that we teach our students. Later they take courses on quantum mechanics in which they learn that light is composed of particles called photons, and that Maxwell's equations are only approximate; but this does not prevent them from continuing to understand and use Maxwellian electrodynamics where appropriate.

In judging the nature of scientific progress, we have to look at mature scientific theories, not theories at the moments when they are coming into being. If it made sense to ask whether the Norman Conquest turned out to be a good thing, we might try to answer the question by comparing Anglo-Saxon and Norman societies in their mature forms—say, in the reigns of Edward the Confessor and Henry I. We would not try to answer it by studying what happened at the Battle of Hastings. 4 Thomas S. Kuhn, Black-Body Theory and the Quantum Discontinuity 1894- 1912 (Oxford University Press, 1978). (back)

Nor do scientific revolutions necessarily change the way that we assess our theories, making different paradigms incommensurable. Over the past forty years I have been involved in revolutionary changes in the way that physicists understand the elementary particles that are the basic constituents of matter. The greater revolutions of this century, quantum mechanics and relativity, were before my time, but they are the basis of the physics research of my generation. Nowhere have I seen any signs of Kuhn's incommensurability between different paradigms. Our ideas have changed, but we have continued to assess our theories in pretty much the same way: a theory is taken as a success if it is based on simple general principles and does a good job of accounting for experimental data in a natural way. I am not saying that we have a book of rules that tells us how to assess theories, or that we have a clear idea what is meant by "simple general principles" or "natural." I am only saying that whatever we mean, there have been no sudden changes in the way we assess theories, no changes that would make it impossible to compare the truth of theories before and after a revolution.

For instance, at the beginning of this century physicists were confronted with the problem of understanding the spectra of atoms, the huge number of bright and dark lines that appear in the light from hot gases, like those on the surface of the sun, when the light is separated by a spectroscope into its different colors. When Niels Bohr showed in 1913 how to use quantum theory to explain the spectrum of hydrogen, it became clear to physicists generally that quantum theory was very promising, and when it turned out after 1925 that quantum mechanics could be used to explain the spectrum of any atom, quantum mechanics became the hot subject that young physicists had to learn. In the same way, physicists today are confronted with a dozen or so measured masses for the electron and similar particles and for quarks of various types, and the measured numerical values of these different masses have so far resisted theoretical explanation. Any new theory that succeeds in explaining these masses will instantly be recognized as an important step forward. The subject matter has changed, but not our aims.

This is not to say that there have been no changes at all in the way we assess our theories. For instance, it is now considered to be much more acceptable to base a physical theory on some principle of "invariance" (a principle that says that the laws of nature appear the same from certain different points of view) than it was at the beginning of the century, when Einstein started to worry about the invariance of the laws of nature under changes in the motion of an observer. But these changes have been evolutionary, not revolutionary. Nature seems to act on us as a teaching machine. When a scientist reaches a new understanding of nature, he or she experiences an intense pleasure. These experiences over long periods have taught us how to judge what sort of scientific theory will provide the pleasure of understanding nature.

Even more radical than Kuhn's notion of the incommensurability of different paradigms is his conclusion that in the revolutionary shifts from one paradigm to another we do not move closer to the truth. To defend this conclusion, he argued that all past beliefs about nature have turned out to be false, and that there is no reason to suppose that we are doing better now. Of course, Kuhn knew very well that physicists today go on using the Newtonian theory of gravitation and motion and the Maxwellian theory of electricity and magnetism as good approximations that can be deduced from more accurate theories—we certainly don't regard Newtonian and Maxwellian theories as simply false, in the way that Aristotle's theory
of motion or the theory that fire is an element ("phlogiston") are false. Kuhn himself in his earlier book on the Copernican revolution told how parts of scientific theories survive in the more successful theories that supplant them, and seemed to have no trouble with the idea. Confronting this contradiction, Kuhn in Structure gave what for him was a remarkably weak defense, that Newtonian mechanics and Maxwellian electrodynamics as we use them today are not the same theories as they were before the advent of relativity and quantum mechanics, because then they were not known to be approximate and now we know that they are. It is like saying that the steak you eat is not the one that you bought, because now you know it is stringy and before you didn't.


It is important to keep straight what does and what does not change in scientific revolutions, a distinction that is not made in Structure.5 There is a "hard" part of modern physical theories ("hard" meaning not difficult, but durable, like bones in paleontology or potsherds in archeology) that usually consists of the equations themselves, together with some understandings about what the symbols mean operationally and about the sorts of phenomena to which they apply. Then there is a "soft" part; it is the vision of reality that we use to explain to ourselves why the equations work. The soft part does change; we no longer believe in Maxwell's ether, and we know that there is more to nature than Newton's particles and forces.

The changes in the soft part of scientific theories also produce changes in our understanding of the conditions under which the hard part is a good approximation. But after our theories reach their mature forms, their hard parts represent permanent accomplishments. If you have bought one of those T-shirts with Maxwell's equations on the front, you may have to worry about its going out of style, but not about its becoming false. We will go on teaching Maxwellian electrodynamics as long as there are scientists. I can't see any sense in which the increase in scope and accuracy of the hard parts of our theories is not a cumulative approach to truth.6

Some of what Kuhn said about paradigm shifts does apply to the soft parts of our theories, but even here I think that Kuhn overestimated the degree to which scientists during a period of normal science are captives of their paradigms. There are many examples of scientists who remained skeptical about the soft parts of their own theories. It seems to me that Newton's famous slogan Hypotheses non fingo (I do not make hypotheses) must have meant at least in part that his commitment was not to the reality of gravitational forces acting at a distance, but only to the validity of the predictions derived from his equations.

However that may be, I can testify that although our present theory of elementary particles, the Standard Model, has been tremendously successful in accounting for the measured properties of the particles, physicists today are not firmly committed to the view of nature on which it is based. The Standard Model is a field theory, which means that it takes the basic constituents of nature to be fields—conditions of space, considered apart from any matter that may be in it, like the magnetic field that pulls bits of iron toward the poles of a bar magnet—rather than particles. In the past two decades it has been realized that any theory based on quantum mechanics and relativity will look like a field theory when experiments are done at sufficiently low energies. The Standard Model is today widely regarded as an "effective field theory," a low-energy approximation to some unknown fundamental theory that may not involve fields at all.

Even though the Standard Model provides the paradigm for the present normal-science period in 5 I am grateful to Professor Christopher Hitchcock for a comment after my talk at Rice that led me to include the following remark in this essay. (back)

6 Another complication: As professor Bruce Hunt pointed out to me in conversation, it can happen that two competing theories with apparently different hard parts can both make the same successful predictions. For instance, in the nineteenth century it was common for British physicists to describe electromagnetic phenomena using equations that involved electric and magnetic fields, following the lead of Faraday, while the equations of continental physicists referred directly to forces acting at a distance. Usually what happens in such cases is that the two sets of equations are discovered to be mathematically equivalent, although one or the other may turn out to have a wider generalization in a more comprehensive theory, as turned out to be the case for electric and magnetic fields after the advent of relativity. (back)
fundamental physics, it has several ad hoc features, including at least eighteen numerical constants, such as the mass and charge of the electron, that have to be arbitrarily adjusted to make the theory fit experiments. Also, the Standard Model does not incorporate gravitation. Theorists know that they need to find a more satisfying new theory, to which the Standard Model would be only a good approximation, and experimentalists are working very hard to find some new data that would disagree with some prediction of the Standard Model. The recent announcement from an underground experiment in Japan, that the particles called neutrinos have masses that would be forbidden in the original version of the Standard Model, provides a good example. This experiment is only the latest step in a search over many years for such masses, a search that has been guided in part by arguments that, whatever more satisfying theory turns out to be the next step beyond the Standard Model, this theory is likely to entail the existence of small neutrino masses.

Kuhn overstated the degree to which we are hypnotized by our paradigms, and in particular he exaggerated the extent to which the discovery of anomalies during a period of normal science is inadvertent. He was quite wrong in saying that it is no part of the work of normal science to find new sorts of phenomena.


Kuhn's view of scientific progress would leave us with a mystery: Why does anyone bother? If one scientific theory is only better than another in its ability to solve the problems that happen to be on our minds today, then why not save ourselves a lot of trouble by putting these problems out of our minds? We don't study elementary particles because they are intrinsically interesting, like people. They are not—if you have seen one electron, you've seen them all. What drives us onward in the work of science is precisely the sense that there are truths out there to be discovered, truths that once discovered will form a permanent part of human knowledge.

It was not Kuhn's description of scientific revolutions that impressed me so much when I first read Structure in 1972, but rather his treatment of normal science. Kuhn showed that a period of normal science is not a time of stagnation, but an essential phase of scientific progress. This had become important to me personally in the early 1970s because of recent developments in both cosmology and elementary particle physics.

Until the late 1960s cosmology had been in a state of terrible confusion. I remember when most astronomers and astrophysicists were partisans of some preferred cosmology, and considered anyone else's cosmology as mere dogma. Once at a dinner party in New York around 1970 I was sitting with the distinguished Swedish physicist Hannes Alfven, and took the opportunity to ask whether or not certain physical effects on which he was an expert would have occurred in the early universe. He asked me, "Is your question posed within the context of the Big Bang Theory?" and when I said yes, it was, he said that he didn't want to talk about it. The fractured state of cosmological discourse began to heal after the discovery in 1965 of the cosmic microwave background radiation, radiation that is left over from the time when the universe was about a million years old. This discovery forced everyone (or at least almost everyone) to think seriously about the early universe.

At last measurements were being made that could confirm or refute our cosmological speculations, and very soon, in less than a decade, the Big Bang Theory was developed in its modern form and became widely accepted. In a treatise on gravitation and cosmology that I finished in 1971 I used the phrase
"Standard Model" for the modern big bang cosmology, to emphasize that I regarded it not as a dogma to which everyone had to swear allegiance, but as a common ground on which all physicists and astronomers could meet to discuss cosmological calculations and observations. There remained respected physicists and astronomers, like Alfven and Fred Hoyle, who did not like the direction of the growing consensus. Some of them attacked the very idea of consensus, holding out instead a sort of "Shining Path" ideal of science as a continual revolution, in which all should pursue their own ideas and go off in their own directions. But there is much more danger in a breakdown of communication among scientists than in a premature consensus that happens to be in error. It is only when scientists share a consensus that they can focus on the experiments and the calculations that can tell them whether their theories are right or wrong, and, if wrong, can show the way to a new consensus. It was to good effect that Kuhn quoted Francis Bacon's dictum, "Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion."

Elementary particle physics also was entering into a new period of normal science in the early 1970s. It had earlier been in a state of confusion, not because of a lack of data, of which there was more than enough, but because of the lack of a convincing body of theory that could explain this data. By the early 1970s theoretical developments and some important new experiments led to a consensus among elementary particle physicists, embodied in what is now also called a Standard Model. Yet for a while some physicists remained skeptical because they felt there hadn't been enough experiments done yet to prove the correctness of the Standard Model, or that the experimental data could be interpreted in other ways. When I argued that any other way of interpreting the data was ugly and artificial, some physicists answered that science has nothing to do with aesthetic judgments, a response that would have amused Kuhn. As he said, "The act of judgment that leads scientists to reject the previously accepted theory is always based upon more than a comparison of that theory with the world." Any set of data can be fit by many different theories. In deciding among these theories we have to judge which ones have the kind of elegance and consistency and universality that make them worth taking seriously. Kuhn was by no means the first person who had made this point—he was preceded by, among others, Pierre Duhem—but Kuhn made it very convincingly.

By now the arguments about the Standard Model are pretty well over, and it is almost universally agreed to give a correct account of observed phenomena. We are living in a new period of normal science, in which the implications of the Standard Model are being calculated by theorists and tested by experimentalists. As Kuhn recognized, it is precisely this sort of work during periods of normal science that can lead to the discovery of anomalies that will make it necessary to take the next step beyond our present paradigm.


But Kuhn's view of normal science, though it remains helpful and insightful, is not what made his reputation. The famous part of his work is his description of scientific revolutions and his view of scientific progress. And it is here that his work is so seriously misleading.

What went wrong? What in Kuhn's life led him to his radical skepticism, to his strange view of the progress of science? Certainly not ignorance—he evidently understood many episodes in the history of physical science as well as anyone ever has. I picked up a clue to Kuhn's thinking the last time I saw him, at a ceremony in Padua in 1992 celebrating the 400th anniversary of the first lecture Galileo delivered in the University of Padua. Kuhn told how in 1947 as a young physics instructor at Harvard, studying Aristotle's work in physics, he had been wondering

How could [Aristotle's] characteristic talent have deserted him so systematically when he turned to the study of motion and mechanics? Equally, if his talents had deserted him, why had his writings in physics been taken so seriously for so many centuries after his death? ...Suddenly the fragments in my head sorted themselves out in a new way, and fell into place altogether. My jaw dropped with surprise, for all at once Aristotle seemed a very good physicist indeed, but of a sort I'd never dreamed possible.


I asked Kuhn what he had suddenly understood about Aristotle. He didn't answer my question, but wrote to me to tell me again how important this experience was to him:

What was altered by my own first reading of [Aristotle's writings on physics] was my understanding, not my evaluation, of what they achieved. And what made that change an epiphany was the transformation it immediately effected in my understanding (again, not my evaluation) of the nature of scientific achievement, most immediately the achievements of Galileo and Newton.


Later, I read Kuhn's explanation in a 1977 article that, without becoming an Aristotelian physicist, he had for a moment learned to think like one, to think of motion as a change in the quality of an object that is like many other changes in quality rather than a state that can be studied in isolation. This apparently showed Kuhn how it is possible to adopt the point of view of any scientist one studies. I suspect that because this moment in his life was so important to Kuhn, he took his idea of a paradigm shift from the shift from Aristotelian to Newtonian physics—the shift (which actually took many centuries) from Aristotle's attempt to give systematic qualitative descriptions of everything in nature to Newton's quantitative explanations of carefully selected phenomena, such as the motion of the planets around the sun.

Now, that really was a paradigm shift. For Kuhn it seems to have been the paradigm of paradigm shifts, which set a pattern into which he tried to shoehorn every other scientific revolution. It really does fit Kuhn's description of paradigm shifts: it is extraordinarily difficult for a modern scientist to get into the frame of mind of Aristotelian physics, and Kuhn's statement that all previous views of reality have proved false, though not true of Newtonian mechanics or Maxwellian electrodynamics, certainly does apply to Aristotelian physics.

Revolutions in science seem to fit Kuhn's description only to the extent that they mark a shift in understanding some aspect of nature from pre-science to modern science. The birth of Newtonian physics was a mega-paradigm shift, but nothing that has happened in our understanding of motion since then—not the transition from Newtonian to Einsteinian mechanics, or from classical to quantum physics—fits Kuhn's description of a paradigm shift.


During the last few decades of his life Kuhn worked as a philosopher, worrying about the meaning of truth and reality, problems on which he had touched briefly decades earlier in Structure. After Kuhn's death Richard Rorty said that Kuhn was "the most influential philosopher to write in English since World War II." Kuhn's conclusions about philosophy show the same corrosive skepticism as his writings on history. In his Rothschild Lecture at Harvard in 1992, he remarked, "I am not suggesting, let me emphasize, that there is a reality which science fails to get at. My point is rather that no sense can be made of the notion of reality as it has ordinarily functioned in the philosophy of science."

It seems to me that pretty good sense had been made of the notion of reality over a century ago by the pragmatic philosopher Charles Sanders Peirce, but I am not equipped by taste or education to judge
conflicts among philosophers. Fortunately we need not allow philosophers to dictate how philosophical arguments are to be applied in the history of science, or in scientific research itself, any more than we would allow scientists to decide by themselves how scientific discoveries are to be used in technology or medicine.

I remarked in a recent article in The New York Review of Books that for me as a physicist the laws of nature are real in the same sense (whatever that is) as the rocks on the ground.7 A few months after the publication of my article I was attacked for this remark by Richard Rorty. He accused me of thinking that as a physicist I can easily clear up questions about reality and truth that have engaged philosophers for millennia. But that is not my position. I know that it is terribly hard to say precisely what we mean when we use words like "real" and "true." That is why, when I said that the laws of nature and the rocks on the ground are real in the same sense, I added in parentheses "whatever that is." I respect the efforts of philosophers to clarify these concepts, but I'm sure that even Kuhn and Rorty have used words like "truth" and "reality" in everyday life, and had no trouble with them. I don't see any reason why we cannot also use them in some of our statements about the history of science. Certainly philosophers can do us a great service in their attempts to clarify what we mean by truth and reality. But for Kuhn to say that as a philosopher he has trouble understanding what is meant by truth or reality proves nothing beyond the fact that he has trouble understanding what is meant by truth or reality.


Finally, I would like to describe my own idea of scientific progress. As I said, Kuhn uses the metaphor of Darwinian evolution: undirected improvement, but not improvement toward anything. Kuhn's metaphor is not bad, if we make one change in it: the progress of physical science looks like evolution running backward. Just as humans and other mammal species can trace their origins back to some kind of furry creature hiding from the dinosaurs in the Cretaceous period, and that furry creature and the dinosaurs and all life on Earth presumably can be traced back to what Pooh-Bah in The Mikado called "a protoplasmal primordial atomic globule," in the same way we have seen the science of optics and the science of electricity and magnetism merge together in Maxwell's time into what we now call electrodynamics, and in recent years we have seen electrodynamics and the theories of other forces in nature merge into the modern Standard Model of elementary particles. We hope that in the next great step forward in physics we shall see the theory of gravitation and all of the different branches of elementary particle physics flow together into a single unified theory. This is what we are working for and what we spend the taxpayers' money for. And when we have discovered this theory, it will be part of a true description of reality.

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Re: The Limits of Science

Postby conniption » Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:32 am

Can't get enough about viruses, eh?

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Jeffrey Strahl
Apr 2, 2022 1:49 AM

Some “resistance” luminaries are working to keep the official narrative’s myths alive.

https://viroliegy.com/2022/03/31/addres ... -evidence/

Addressing Dr. McCullough, Dr. Malone, and Dr. Cole’s “SARS-COV-2” Claims: Where’s the Evidence?

Mike Stone
3/31/22


Yesterday I had the privilege and the honor to speak with Alec Zeck, John Blaid, Mike Donio, and Jacob Diaz about the claims made regarding the isolation and existence of “SARS-COV-2” by Dr.’s Malone, McCullough, and Cole. In this video, we address specific points they made such as whether or not:

• Cultivation in cell culture is “isolation” of a “virus?”
• Koch’s Postulates had been satisfied for “SARS-COV-2?”
• The effect a drug has can be considered proof of the existence of a “virus?”
• The electron microscopy images taken from unpurified cell cultures are proof of “virus” particles?
• The particles assumed to be “viruses” are purified and isolated directly from the samples of a sick patient?

It was a pleasure to be a part of this conversation! I hope that you are able to come away with a better understanding as to why the evidence for the existence of “SARS-COV-2,” or any “virus” for the matter, is entirely lacking and unscientific.

Addressing Dr. McCullough, Dr. Malone, and Dr. Cole’s SARS-CoV-2 Claims: Where’s The Evidence?

Mike Donio, John Blaid, Jacob Diaz, Mike Stone, and Alec Zeck filmed a response to claims made by Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Robert Malone, and Dr. Ryan Cole regarding virus isolation and the existence of SARS-CoV-2 during an episode of The StreetMD Show hosted by Dr. Jo Yi on the Ickonic platform. The overall stance held by the speakers is simple: the claims made by these 3 gentlemen lack both in context and in substantial evidence to support the notion that SARS-CoV-2 exists as a pathogenic disease causing agent. [Embedded video, about 65 minutes]

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Re: The Limits of Science

Postby conniption » Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:04 pm

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Peeping Pigs and Propaganda by Omission

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April 1, 2022


“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” George Orwell Animal Farm

While there is much talk these days about “fake news,” omitting important news is perhaps as widespread and egregiously harmful to an informed public. The following report tries to remedy the way the mainstream media have for years ignored one of the oddest but more important news stories of the last sixty years. Its implications are momentous, especially in the light of the exponential growth of spying and the loss of privacy. There are eyes everywhere these days. That we are being watched is beyond dispute; but by whom and why? This is the real story that the mainstream media have failed to address. Their failure to do so is truly laughable.

Extensive scientific research over fifty years has concluded that pigs that stink and grow larger as they age have small eyes and tend to stare at people. I have previously reported on these startling studies, but they have been met with a blind eye. Researchers across the world continue to replicate and confirm the findings of the original research done in 1953 in Kansas by Dr. Wilfred Jeffred Eftie. Yet the mainstream media, as is their wont, keep failing to report these extraordinary studies or slight them as worse than fake news. Averting one’s gaze from their import won’t make them disappear. Surveilling pigs may not be obvious, but the fact that they’re not makes them triply dangerous.

While seemingly insignificant on the face of it, these replicated studies in abnormal autology have led to new insights into our osmological understanding of the place of egoism in political life. The epistemology of egoism has long perplexed scientists, but Eftie’s brilliant counterintuitive insights have led to some major breakthroughs. However, the story of Eftie’s original discovery, ignored for years, deserves renewed attention. But I will get to that in due course. It is best to proceed backwards. Looking back will allow us to see if we have learned anything from the past and if something is gaining on us.

So let’s first take a look at a few of the significant follow-up studies that have added so much to our understanding of human animal behavior. It’s surely an understatement to say that in the world of science we stand on the shoulders of giants such as Eftie. It allows us to see so far. One study that was replicated 789 times found that small eyes in humans tended to result in marked elevations of dopamine and diminished activity in the frontal cortex, the same results that were found in pigs. When translated into the political arena, researchers found that politicians with small eyes tend to stare at people as a power tactic, and such body language is correlated with a tendency for them to grow larger as they age – i.e. get fat. Their small-eyed stares seem to intensify the power differential between them and those stared at, but this was not conclusively proven. Not yet, at least.

Unlike the pig studies from which this research emanated, no correlation was found to body odor. However, one eminent New York City based researcher, Dr. Wilbur Shoat, made the startling discovery that smell is very subjective, and therefore in the human samples an intervening variable, such as the number and consistency of nose hairs, may be a factor. Shoat did find a possible link that demands further study: In the politicians and celebrities that comprised his sample – seemingly different from the original pigs – there was a significant probability that the sulfuric whiff they gave off came from their mouths when they talked, unlike the small-eyed fat pigs that stank all over; that, at least, was what some researchers felt they smelled when working with pigs. Ironically, pigs have an acute sense of smell far superior to that of humans, which may explain why non-scientists might think otherwise. Then again, it may not.

But Dr. Shoat, coming from a long line of swine scientists, had presciently hypothesized that finding, though common sense would have us expect the exact opposite. But then again, common sense often over-exaggerates its ability to grasp the nuances of science and understand its processes. Perhaps this is because so much science reporting is written in jargon-filled prose and not clear, non-redundant language understandable to the average normal person. Unlike today, reporters and doctors once wrote clearly, as the following quote from Dr. Eftie exemplifies.

In one of his follow-up studies, Dr. Eftie put it this way: “Without resorting to value judgements, it is the intent of this research project to substantiate an empirical relationship between the small size of the medium swine eye (as intensified through the pig smell/eyelid blink factor) on the one hand, and resulting intrafamily behavioral oddness on the other…. Animals in the control group progressed, without exception, from small to large size as they matured, thus creating the impression that they could both see more and take increasingly decisive action in response to visual stimuli.”

An ingenious researcher, Dr. Edward Edwards, an amphigorologist known for his determinist determining twin studies, took the small-eyed pig studies and applied their methodology to self-promotion among well-known people – i.e. celebrities. He reviewed thirty-five books they had written, including autobiographies and political memoirs, and concluded that those with the smallest eyes (based on optical scans of book jacket photos) tended to have the largest egos. While his sample size was admittedly small, so were their eyes, and he thought intensity of gaze was more important than size. He reported that in a eureka moment he realized that they all seemed to be looking intensely at him. What his subjects had in common – aside from money and having been mentioned in the gossip columns – was that they considered themselves to be “somebodies” (his term, based on their notorious egocentricity). As a good researcher does, he operationalized the term “somebody” to mean “not nobody,” making sure to be precise. What else, if anything, a “somebody” is he left hanging until his follow-up study when he plans to interview the thirty-five and ask them. He expects they will gladly answer, and that those answers will buttress his empirical findings.

Sadly, the first pigs observed by Dr. Eftie are long deceased. They stare no more. Absurd as it may sound, we owe them a great debt. Since a pig’s life is a brief prologue to bacon in a country devoted to devouring the evidence of its crimes, most researchers have had to study the children and grandchildren of Eftie’s pigs. But their offspring have flourished – thank God for that. Pigs seem to reproduce rapidly and in great numbers, and researchers today have a wide assortment to choose from – across species.

One of the most intriguing aspects of all this ground-breaking research is how it sheds light on the need to replicate studies and repeat inconvenient truths that people wish to avoid. Repetition, repetition, repetition – that’s the key – a sine qua non of the scientific method and the best news fit to print, as Edward Bernays, Sigmund Freud’s nephew and mentor to a certain German leader, instructed our finest opinion leaders.

Of course the news of Dr. Eftie’s important work can’t be repeated by the mainstream media since they have never reported it. Their focus on fake news reporting has diverted our attention from this censorship by omission. One might reasonably conclude they have no interest in autology or pig gazing, and that is a god-damned shame. You can see I’m getting emotional, but the findings about pigs reported here need wide and ceaseless publicity, and we depend on our mainstream media to do that. Keep hammering the same point; that way truth will emerge. People need to hear things repeated before they sink in.

Not just the research into political pigs with small eyes and big egos, but what they say, and what we say about what they say, and what the media repeats about what they think about what they say.

We need the straight truth, and I think that if we compulsively repeat ourselves, we will be marching toward the light. I am sure of that. But it takes perseverance. If we stick to our guns, remain humble, and keep repeating ourselves, this writer believes we will perhaps discover that even pigs with large eyes stare at people. That may be shocking, but it should wake people up.

After all, Dr. Eftie’s dazzling insights had humble beginnings, but he kept after it. The roots of his genius lie in his childhood, as his first observational study makes clear. He was a brilliant and precocious child. When he was seven years old and just starting the second grade, his teacher, Mrs. Schmidt, had the original idea of having her students write about what they did on their summer vacation. Wilfred’s scholarly career began with that essay. Here it is:

“Wilfred E 2A My Sumer Vacation

I spent too to weeks all sumer at my Granpa Efties on a farm in Conzu Canz Canzus. i saw many pigs their. Sum of the pigs saw me too two. With there tiny eeis eyes. The Big pigs were very big.”

While this childish writing is humorous, it became the inspiration for Dr. Eftie’s scientific breakthrough years later. In 1973, the writer Tom Koch wrote a fascinating article describing his step-by-step maturation on his way to his Ph.D. It reads like a case study of Piaget’s four stages of cognitive development or Dr. Kubler-Ross’s five stages of grief – Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance (DABDA); I forget which. Scholars from across the disciplines should study it since they tend to like stages.

But little news since has been devoted to the advances made by Doctors Shoat and Edwards in their follow-up studies. After all, studies replicated 789 times demand attention, especially considering their findings. It is hoped that this update will convince the skeptical that there is more truth in a pig’s eye than seems to be the case.

News like this is often overlooked by the mainstream media that prefer what they call “real news.” It behooves us to stand with Dr. Eftie and the importance of his insights into pigs, especially those with small eyes, since they are looking at us.
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Art Costa says:
April 3, 2022


Or another way of stating it:

All scientific research is built on particular dogmas including, or perhaps especially, biomedicine. It’s easier for some “scientists” to perpetuate falsehoods than it is to admit they were wrong, abandon long standing ideas, and start again from scratch. Many scientists would rather pursue trendy research areas in order to win accolades and secure grant money than question long-held beliefs and dogmas.

This is exactly what has happened with modern medicine because too much money and too many reputations are at stake. If you’re not allowed to question it, then it’s not real science.
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Postby Grizzly » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:16 pm

Not sure if this goes here, but... Not sure where else to put it , unless we create another thread...
Aging Parents And The Problem With Doctors
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolynrosenblatt/2022/04/14/aging-parents-and-the-problem-with-doctors/?sh=6b56cf5b53ad
Sickening and sad... made me very sad and infuriated... cause I too have a loved one who trusts their doctors without hesitation.* And suspect they are over medicated. Fortunately, they have seen through the scamdemic and hasn't vaxxed.

If there is an aging loved one in your life, chances are they’ve got some chronic medical conditions. Heart disease, high blood pressure, respiratory disease, and other common issues bring them to the doctor. And the primary care doctor makes referrals to specialists. Each specialist focuses on their area of expertise and prescribes medications to treat what they see: keep it from getting worse or prevent crises caused by the condition. Before long, your aging parent is taking a dozen or more pills a day, sometimes three or four times a day.


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* they watched their best and oldest friend die, nearly immediately after getting the jab. And can still think (some-what) critically.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:11 am

... Microsoft’s billionaire founder Bill Gates is financially backing the development of sun-dimming technology that would potentially reflect sunlight out of Earth’s atmosphere, triggering a global cooling effect. The Stratospheric Controlled Perturbation Experiment (SCoPEx), launched by Harvard University scientists, aims to examine this solution by spraying non-toxic calcium carbonate (CaCO3) dust into the atmosphere — a sun-reflecting aerosol that may offset the effects of global warming. ...

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Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:34 pm

Belligerent Savant » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:33 pm wrote:.
Specific to the Science arena, but clearly applicable. Note the published date: 2018, prior to the madness of 2019 - onward.

The Scientific Importance of Free Speech

ADAM PERKINS - 13 APR 2018

Editor’s note: this is a shortened version of a speech that the author was due to give last month at King’s College London which was canceled because the university deemed the event to be too ‘high risk’.

A quick Google search suggests that free speech is a regarded as an important virtue for a functional, enlightened society. For example, according to George Orwell: “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” Likewise, Ayaan Hirsi Ali remarked: “Free speech is the bedrock of liberty and a free society, and yes, it includes the right to blaspheme and offend.” In a similar vein, Bill Hicks declared: “Freedom of speech means you support the right of people to say exactly those ideas which you do not agree with”.

But why do we specifically need free speech in science? Surely we just take measurements and publish our data? No chit chat required. We need free speech in science because science is not really about microscopes, or pipettes, or test tubes, or even Large Hadron Colliders. These are merely tools that help us to accomplish a far greater mission, which is to choose between rival narratives, in the vicious, no-holds-barred battle of ideas that we call “science”.

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Marshall and Warren, 1984

For example, stomach problems such as gastritis and ulcers were historically viewed as the products of stress. This opinion was challenged in the late 1970s by the Australian doctors Robin Warren and Barry Marshall, who suspected that stomach problems were caused by infection with the bacteria Helicobacter pylori. Frustrated by skepticism from the medical establishment and by difficulties publishing his academic papers, in 1984, Barry Marshall appointed himself his own experimental subject and drank a Petri dish full of H. pylori culture. He promptly developed gastritis which was then cured with antibiotics, suggesting that H. pylori has a causal role in this type of illness. You would have thought that given this clear-cut evidence supporting Warren and Marshall’s opinion, their opponents would immediately concede defeat. But scientists are only human and opposition to Warren and Marshall persisted. In the end it was two decades before their crucial work on H. pylori gained the recognition it deserved, with the award of the 2005 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.

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German physicist Max Planck

From this episode we can see that even in situations where laboratory experiments can provide clear evidence in favour of a particular scientific opinion, opponents will typically refuse to accept it. Instead scientists tend cling so stubbornly to their pet theories that no amount of evidence will change their minds and only death can bring an end to the argument, as famously observed by Max Planck:
A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.


It is a salutary lesson that even in a society that permits free speech, Warren and Marshall had difficulty publishing their results. If their opponents had the legal power to silence them their breakthrough would have taken even longer to have become clinically accepted and even more people would have suffered unnecessarily with gastric illness that could have been cured quickly and easily with a course of antibiotics. But scientific domains in which a single experiment can provide a definitive answer are rare. For example, Charles Darwin’s principle of evolution by natural selection concerns slow, large-scale processes that are unsuited to testing in a laboratory. In these cases, we take a bird’s eye view of the facts of the matter and attempt to form an opinion about what they mean.

This allows a lot of room for argument, but as long as both sides are able to speak up, we can at least have a debate: when a researcher disagrees with the findings of an opponent’s study, they traditionally write an open letter to the journal editor critiquing the paper in question and setting out their counter-evidence. Their opponent then writes a rebuttal, with both letters being published in the journal with names attached so that the public can weigh up the opinions of the two parties and decide for themselves whose stance they favour. I recently took part in just such an exchange of letters in the elite journal Trends in Cognitive Sciences. The tone is fierce and neither side changed their opinions, but at least there is a debate that the public can observe and evaluate.

The existence of scientific debate is also crucial because as the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman remarked in 1963: “There is no authority who decides what is a good idea.” The absence of an authority who decides what is a good idea is a key point because it illustrates that science is a messy business and there is no absolute truth. This was articulated in Tom Schofield’s posthumously published essay in which he wrote:
[S]cience is not about finding the truth at all, but about finding better ways of being wrong. The best scientific theory is not the one that reveals the truth — that is impossible. It is the one that explains what we already know about the world in the simplest way possible, and that makes useful predictions about the future. When I accepted that I would always be wrong, and that my favourite theories are inevitably destined to be replaced by other, better, theories — that is when I really knew that I wanted to be a scientist.

When one side of a scientific debate is allowed to silence the other side, this is an impediment to scientific progress because it prevents bad theories being replaced by better theories. Or, even worse, it causes civilization to go backward, such as when a good theory is replaced by a bad theory that it previously displaced. The latter situation is what happened in the most famous illustration of the dire consequences that can occur when one side of a scientific debate is silenced. This occurred in connection with the theory that acquired characteristics are inherited. This idea had been out of fashion for decades, in part due to research in the 1880s by August Weismann. He conducted an experiment that entailed amputating the tails of 68 white mice, over 5 generations. He found that no mice were born without a tail or even with a shorter tail. He stated: “901 young were produced by five generations of artificially mutilated parents, and yet there was not a single example of a rudimentary tail or of any other abnormality in this organ.”

These findings and others like them led to the widespread acceptance of Mendelian genetics. Unfortunately for the people of the USSR, Mendelian genetics are incompatible with socialist ideology and so in the 1930s USSR were replaced with Trofim Lysenko’s socialism-friendly idea that acquired characteristics are inherited. Scientists who disagreed were imprisoned or executed. Soviet agriculture collapsed and millions starved.

Henceforth the tendency to silence scientists with inconvenient opinions has been labeled Lysenkoism since it provides the most famous example of the harm that can be done when competing scientific opinions cannot be expressed equally freely. Left-wingers tend to be the most prominent Lysenkoists but the suppression of scientific opinions can occur in other contexts too. The Space Shuttle Challenger disaster in 1986 is a famous example.

The Space Shuttle Challenger disaster happened because the rubber O-rings sealing the joints of the booster rockets became stiff at low temperatures. This design flaw meant that in cold weather, such as the −2 °C of Challenger launch day, a blowtorch-like flame could travel past the O-ring and make contact with the adjacent external fuel tank, causing it to explode. The stiffness of the O-rings at low temperatures was well known to the engineers who built the booster rockets and they consequently advised that the launch of Challenger should be postponed until temperatures rose to safe levels. Postponing the launch would have been an embarrassment and so the engineers were overruled. The launch therefore went ahead in freezing temperatures and, just as the engineers feared, Challenger exploded, causing the death of all seven crew members.

NASA’s investigation into the Challenger disaster was initially secretive, as if to conceal the fact that the well-known O-ring problem was the cause. However, the physicist Richard Feynman was a member of the committee and refused to be silenced. At a televised hearing he demonstrated that the O-rings became stiff when dunked in iced water. In the report on the disaster he concluded that ‘For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.’

Today, there are many reasons to be concerned over the state of free speech, from the growing chill on university campuses to the increased policing of art forms such as literature and film. Discussion of scientific topics on podcasts has also attracted the ire of petty Lysenkoists. But there is also cause for optimism, as long as we stand up for the principle that no one has the right to police our opinions. As Christopher Hitchens remarked. “My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line, and kiss my ass.”


Adam Perkins is a Lecturer in the Neurobiology of Personality at Kings College London and is the author of the book The Welfare Trait: how state benefits affect personality. Follow him on Twitter @AdamPerkinsPhD

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Postby Harvey » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:04 pm

A poison pill of an argument? I'm not saying so, because it is true that I certainly dont know as much. But... epigenetics.

Abstract | Once deemed heretical, emerging evidence now supports the notion that the inheritance of acquired characteristics can occur through ancestral exposures or experiences and that certain paternally acquired traits can be ‘memorized’ in the sperm as epigenetic information. The search for epigenetic factors in mammalian sperm that transmit acquired phenotypes has recently focused on RNAs and, more recently, RNA modifications. Here, we review insights that have been gained from studying sperm RNAs and RNA modifications, and their roles in influencing offspring phenotypes. We discuss the possible mechanisms by which sperm become acquisitive following environmental–somatic–germline interactions, and how they transmit paternally acquired phenotypes by shaping early embryonic development.


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Following the Science is Impossible and Stupid

Institutional science follows politics; it will always endorse central regime policies.

During the pandemic, Germany closed schools on a wider scale and for a longer duration than most other places in the civilised world. I was recently reminded of how our government came to embrace these extreme policies. The story is very revealing:

It began with the strange decision of state media to elevate Christian Drosten at Berlin Charité to national prominence, by granting him the Coronavirus Update podcast on 26 February 2020. The WHO had just endorsed lockdowns two days before, and various countries were acquiring new Corona tsars – random virus wizards who would become the face of containment policy to panicking domestic audiences. Every day, Drosten’s banal podcast interviews were reported breathlessly across the German media, as if they meant anything.

It’s important to remember that Drosten is a virologist. He’s not a statistician, and for what it’s worth, he’s not a public health expert either. He studies how very small proteins work and how they interact with human cells. Nevertheless, Drosten had (or claimed to have) a wide range of opinions on matters outside of his field, including the question of whether closing schools would slow down SARS-2.

At first, Drosten said that he didn’t think this would accomplish very much. Like everyone else of his ilk, he had an early history of saying basically correct and sensible things before he went crazy. On 11 March 2020, he went home and read this paper on Nonpharmaceutical Interventions Implemented by US Cities During the 1918–1919 Influenza Pandemic. It wasn’t his field; his assessment of its analysis is worth no more than mine or yours. But after reading it, he decided that actually closing schools would be a great idea, especially when used in combination with other interventions, such as banning mass gatherings. This was wind in the sails of hystericists like Markus Söder, minister president of Bavaria. And so we closed our schools, and our kids endured months of social isolation and mental anguish, because Drosten read a thing and had a brilliant idea.

But, that’s only the official story. It may be vastly worse than that. I really doubt, for example, that Drosten’s ridiculous podcast was a spontaneous programming idea by Norddeutscher Rundfunk. I suspect, instead, that there’s a reason lockdowns and Corona tsars went together in those early days. Primary was the political or bureaucratic decision to do all this crazy stuff, in the absence of any evidence aside from some dodgy numbers out of Wuhan. Thus the genius smart guys who run our institutions had to find celebrity virus astrologers, who could become the public face of novel policies and provide a simulacrum of science for the politicians to pretend they were following. It’s even odds, whether Drosten really did change his mind because of a paper he read one night; or whether it was rather the political or bureaucratic faction behind Drosten that changed their minds and gave him a paper or two to read.

Science isn’t some objective reasonable force outside of politics. Scientists spend most of their careers chasing government grant funding, and fighting for appointments and promotions in government-funded university systems. Science follows politics, and nobody knows this as much as the disingenuous politicians who claim that their policies are subordinate to scientific findings.
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