Elon Musk - Charlatan/Stooge?

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Re: Elon Musk - Charlatan/Stooge?

Postby Elvis » Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:20 am

Musk is just another reason to regulate billionaires out of existence. :tongout
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Re: Elon Musk - Charlatan/Stooge?

Postby conniption » Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:02 am

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Elon Musk, Person of the Year, Radicalized by Lockdowns

By Jeffrey A. Tucker
December 14, 2021


It’s a good call for Time Magazine: it made Elon Musk the person of the year. It’s actually even a remarkable call, and a great omen. Musk is arguably the most prominent opponent of lockdowns and vaccine mandates in the US. In his official interview, he refused to take back his last-year denunciation of stay-at-home orders as “fascist.”

He stepped it up even further concerning vaccine mandates. “I am against forcing people to be vaccinated, not something we should do in America.” Yes, the unvaccinated are “taking a risk, but people do risky things all the time. I believe we’ve got to watch out for the erosion of freedom in America.”

True indeed. For some reason, people have a hard time understanding how someone could be for the right to accept the vaccine but also be against imposing it by force. And yet that position is clearly the most reasonable one, the one consistent with freedom, and good public health.

Something has dramatically changed in the heart and mind of Musk over the several years. At this point, no one can seem to be able to control his mouth. And despite his ambiguous politics of the past, he is increasingly revealing himself to be what he was raised to be: a brilliant and irascible anarchist.

Only a few weeks ago, he told the Wall Street Journal that the whole of the Democrats’ and Biden’s $1.9 trillion spending bill on infrastructure should be scrapped. All of it. There is nothing worth anything in it.

“Honestly, I would just can this whole bill.” Further, he said that he doesn’t want any support for his electric charging stations. He pointed out that gas stations don’t need federal subsidies. He is fully confident that Tesla can continue to grow and thrive without any federal support.

He is certainly right about that. And there is nothing surprising in his conclusion.

Just about everyone knows that these huge bills are pork for the rich. They balloon the debt to reward political power and the friends of political power. Nothing more. We know that. The debt will find a buyers’ market mostly thanks to the Fed, which in turn manipulates money and drives up inflation.

What’s surprising is that someone so rich, so influential, so decisive to our present economic lives, would actually say openly what everyone knows. It’s highly unusual, especially these days. Musk is now America’s most honest plutocrat. He is beyond being controlled or contrite at this point. In that way he is a very dangerous man, in the best possible way we can use that term. He had better watch his back.

In the same context, he presented the traditional view of the state that emerged out of the enlightenment and which, in many ways, served as a foundational principle of the American revolution: “The government is simply the biggest corporation, with a monopoly on violence and where you have no recourse.”

That’s it in a nutshell, the essential insight of traditional liberalism, the one that gave us limits on the state that unleashed human creativity for hundreds of years and built what we call civilization.

Today, the White House spokesman routinely says that no edicts against rights and freedom are “off the table.” Anything is possible. Anything can happen. They will decide. No one says a word; the craven press believes this is just normal. It’s not. It’s dangerous. Musk’s warning about government is the antidote.

There were a number of turning points for Musk personally. A few years back, he got fed up with the dogmatic attacks on crypto and decided to defend it. Then he trolled harder: he promoted Dogecoin and gave that market a lift. Then he said he would accept Bitcoin in selling his cars, before reversing that decision later. Still, he stepped out front of the opinion cartel and shattered the prevailing view that Bitcoin is something all of corporate America should avoid.

The last two years have been transformative for him. He is a businessman above all else. When the government told him that he had to close his factories for a virus, he balked. He began to look at the data (he is trained in economics and statistics). He saw that the infection fatality rate was not highly unusual for this type of virus, and he was clearly aware of the harms that would come from lockdowns to his company, the country, and the world economy.

On May 11, 2020, he tweeted: “Tesla is restarting production today against Alameda County rules, I will be on the line with everyone else. If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me.” By the end of the year, he moved Tesla’s headquarters from oppressive California to emancipate Texas. Good on him. Remarkable really.

Two years earlier, his dust up with the SEC made a mockery of the agency. He believes that he should have free speech so he tweeted what he wanted to tweet. The SEC reminded him that this is not a free country and that he cannot do that. He faced their investigatory tribunal, and then resigned briefly as CEO so that he could say what he wanted to say. In the end, he outsmarted them all.

What’s happened to Elon is what has happened to millions of other people. He began to realize that the governing elites in this country are incredibly inept and unwilling to take responsibility for their actions. He noted the completely undemocratic methods and the unscientific rationale that were deployed to bring about lockdowns. For that reason, he has been smeared and put down as a promoter of misinformation. Anyone who has paid attention for the last two years knows exactly what that means: he is telling truths he is not supposed to tell.

Let’s address his relationship with China, which in many respects pioneered the lockdowns he despises. He has said that despite his good relations in China, he disagrees with many policies of the government, just as he disagrees with policies in the US. This opinion gets him in trouble with both Democrats and Republicans. But we do well to pay attention.

Musk is aware of a truth not often faced in the West: China is destined to be the world’s largest economy and easily so. The lockdowns of 2020 and 2021 meant that the West gave up any chance of stopping this trajectory. China gave us a gun and we shot ourselves in the foot. Beijing must still be laughing. Elon watched this all unfold and it was this that caused him to lose all respect in the governing leadership in the US.

So yes, he will continue to maintain close ties to China. The US attempt somehow to decouple US and China in technology and trade was reckless, even delusional. It led to the chip shortage and supply chain breakages, and incentivized the creation of a robust trade pact that China dominates entirely, while excluding the US. Sorry to say, but this was Trump’s doing and it was a disaster, not so much for China, but for the US.

As regards all of these issues – trade, chips, crypto, spending, infrastructure, securities regulation – the single most dangerous thing that Elon has said is that the top goal of the US government now should be to get out of the way. Do nothing. That’s the best path. Laissez-faire. Leave us alone.

This thought caused the transportation secretary to explode in a rage.

“These are things that don’t happen on their own,” said Pete Buttigieg said in response. “They require policy attention, and that’s part of our focus both in the charging network that is supported out of the infrastructure bill that the president signed, and the tax credits that will make these vehicles more affordable, that are proposed in Build Back Better.”

Musk will have none of it. “The government is simply the biggest corporation, with the monopoly on violence.”

The person interviewing him interrupted: “Can you explain that last part?”

Apparently this is going to take a lot of explaining in the years ahead.

For all the controversy, the hypocrisy, and the mixed messaging over the years, Elon Musk has turned into a true American, a resistor, a revolutionary. His influence in business and philosophical outlook offers a real path forward. He deserves every congratulations for refusing to go along with ruling-class ideology and instead demand that most essential thing, the freedom to trade, speak, run a business, and innovate without government interference.

That he has been named Person of the Year portends more than Time Magazine knows. There is a new spirit of resistance alive in the land, and Musk embodies it as well or better than anyone else in his position. In that case, there are many people and institutions in this country and around the world that should be very worried.

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Jeffrey A. Tucker

Jeffrey A. Tucker is Founder and President of the Brownstone Institute and the author of many thousands of articles in the scholarly and popular press and ten books in 5 languages, most recently Liberty or Lockdown. He is also the editor of The Best of Mises. He speaks widely on topics of economics, technology, social philosophy, and culture. tucker@brownstone.org

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Re: Elon Musk - Charlatan/Stooge?

Postby Elvis » Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:19 pm

conniption wrote:Just about everyone knows that these huge bills are pork for the rich. They balloon the debt to reward political power and the friends of political power. Nothing more. We know that. The debt will find a buyers’ market mostly thanks to the Fed, which in turn manipulates money and drives up inflation.


:lol: :roll: Such confused horseshit rhetoric, typical of Mises Institute types.

Musk is a brilliant idiot. We would all be better off if he would shut the fuck up.
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Re: Elon Musk - Charlatan/Stooge?

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Re: Elon Musk - Charlatan/Stooge?

Postby conniption » Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:42 am

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Elon Musk unveils ‘biggest threat to modern civilization’
22 Dec, 2021
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Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk has criticized ‘wokeness’ and mocked CNN in an interview with the conservative satire website the Babylon Bee, calling political correctness one of the greatest threats to civilization.

In the fiery interview, which aired on Tuesday evening, Musk protested attempts to cancel comedian Dave Chappelle and said the “woke mind virus” is “arguably one of the biggest threats to modern civilization.”

“It should be OK to be humorous. Wokeness basically wants to make comedy illegal, which is not cool,” the billionaire said, questioning, “Do we want a humorless society that is simply rife with condemnation and hate?”
At its heart, wokeness is divisive, exclusionary, and hateful. It basically gives mean people… a shield to be mean and cruel, armored in false virtue


Elon Musk Sits Down With The Babylon Bee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaRKd4U6Ixg
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The Babylon Bee


During the interview, Musk also took aim at CNN amid news that one of the network’s producers – John Griffin – was charged with a series of shocking underage sex crimes this month.

After one of the hosts suggested that Musk “could be on CNN right now,” which is “a real news organization” unlike the Babylon Bee, Musk responded, “I’m not perverted enough, I guess.”

Griffin was arrested just days after CNN fired host Chris Cuomo amid sexual misconduct allegations and a probe into his attempt to defend his brother from similar harassment accusations. CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin was also placed on leave last year after he was caught masturbating during an online New Yorker company meeting.

The Babylon Bee mocked CNN's string of scandals this month with the headline, “CNN HR Department Considers Adding 'Are You A Creepy Pervert?' To Employment Application.”

On Tuesday, Musk also threw shade at fellow technology CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s Metaverse, commenting, “I think we’re far from disappearing into the Metaverse. It sounds just kind of buzzwordy.

“I don’t want to be like some old codger dismissing the internet,” Musk said, adding, however, that he is currently “unable to see a compelling Metaverse situation.”

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Re: Elon Musk - Charlatan/Stooge?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:05 pm

Herr Musk recently announced he wanted to become the world's largest manufacturer of robots, which would bother me only half as much if only Schwarzenegger hadn't starred in The Terminator.

Ted, why did you have to be so effen crazy? Didn't you notice Moore's observation, now law? It was always impossible for you to succeed.
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Re: Elon Musk - Charlatan/Stooge?

Postby conniption » Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:18 am

News from the Underground comments...

Maybe we should enforce the First Amendment, instead of bowing down to Elon Musk
Is a transhumanist and technocrat (with a Satanic wife) the proper choice to safeguard our free speech?


Mark Crispin Miller
Apr 21


He may be preferable to (say) Bill Gates in certain ways, but Musk is finally just another oligarch with crackpot views and too much money.



Tweet This: Will The Real Elon Musk Please Stand Up?
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Musk and Grimes flashing occult sign

POSTED BY: PATRICK WOOD
APRIL 18, 2022


The title is the conclusion of the old TV game show To Tell The Truth, after several contestants would try to convince you that they were the real person in question. Like a chameleon, Elon Musk can simultaneously play the role of all the contestants and have the audience twisted in a knot of confusion. Who is this guy, anyway; and, will the real Elon Musk please stand up?

Identity #1: Transhumanist

In 2017, Musk spoke at the World Government Summit in Dubai: “Think of the limbic system — the animal brain and the cortex as the thinking part of the brain, and your digital self as a third layer… If you die, your digital ghost is still around. All of their emails, and social media – that still lives if they die.” Musk can fix this by inserting a chip into your brain to interface to the digital world, putting all knowledge at your instant disposal. It would also put all of YOUR information at their disposal. Oh, Musk already has a company called Neuralink ready to chip the world.

Identity #2: Technocrat

At his company, Tesla, Musk crowned himself with the title of “Technoking” in addition to his role as CEO. This is probably not surprising in that he grew up in a Technocrat home in South Africa before eventually ending up in the United States as the richest person in the world. Musk’s grandfather. Joshua Haldeman, D.C., was the Grand Poobah of Technocracy, Inc. in Canada during the 1930s and 40s. Musk has repeatedly said that robots are going to take over all the meaningful jobs in society, which will necessitate Universal Basic Income (UBI) for everyone. UBI was an original concept of Technocracy from the 1930s.

Identity #3: Space pioneer

Elon Musk doesn’t believe in man-made global warming. Instead, he thinks the real danger is the expansion of the sun that will cook everyone on earth. The only answer, he says, is to leave planet earth and flee to outer space. First stop: Mars.

Musk puts his money where his mouth is, having built his own rocket ship company, SpaceX.

Identity #4: Eccentric fatherhood

Currently at age 50, Musk has fathered 8 children. His first marriage to Justine Wilson produced five children but the first-born died. The next two (Griffin, Xavier) were twins and the next 3 (Kai, Saxon, Damian) were triplets.

Currently, Musk has had two additional children from a girlfriend who is a self-described pagan witch, Transhumanist and Technocrat. Born Claire Elise Boucher, she first changed her name to Grimes but now addresses herself simply as “C”. Her first male child with Musk was named X Æ A-Xii, or “X” for short, and she recently received a daughter named Exa Dark Sideræl, or simply “Y”, born to a surrogate mother in December 2021.

A techno-punk-pop-rave musician and singer, Grimes has over 2.1 million Instagram fans. One post stated, “I spend 2-4 hours in my deprivation tank, this allows me to ‘astro-glide’ to other dimensions—past, present, and future.”

In 2020, The Irish Times provided some interesting insight into the Musk/Grimes affair:

A fan on her Reddit page describes the 32-year-old as a hybrid of a fairy, a witch and a cyborg – pretty much Musk’s dream girl – and she has talked about going through a Wiccan phase in seventh grade. “Yeah, she’s pretty special, that’s for sure,” Musk says, with his lilting South African accent. “She’s one of the most unusual people I’ve ever met.”

I wonder how it works with two such exotic birds. “We’ve had this debate of ‘Are you more crazy than me or am I more crazy than you?’ ” Musk says.


Identity #5: Champion of free speech

Elon Musk says he wants to save free speech, but has never clarified how he defines free speech. This is problematic given his eccentric views on so many controversial technologies and ideas. The Verge wonders if Musk can be taken seriously:

If this really is Elon’s bid to save free speech, you have to wonder why he’s not looking at some other, bigger options. On the other hand, this is a truly groundbreaking troll — and maybe all that’s all it’s meant to be. I expect Jack Dorsey is laughing his head off.

I wonder, too.

Perhaps we should reverse the game and have only the fake Elon Musk stand up: that would most likely be Identity #5.

___________________________________________

Grimes Lyrics: We Appreciate Power

[Intro: HANA] We appreciate power
We appreciate power
We appreciate power, power[Chorus: HANA] What will it take to make you capitulate?
We appreciate power
We appreciate power
Elevate the human race, putting makeup on my face
We appreciate power
We appreciate power, power[Verse 1: Grimes] Simulation, give me something good
God’s creation, so misunderstood
Pray to the divinity, the keeper of the key
One day, everyone will believe

[Chorus: HANA] What will it take to make you capitulate?
We appreciate power
We appreciate power
When will the state agree to cooperate?
We appreciate power
We appreciate power, power

[Verse 2: Grimes] People like to say that we’re insane
But AI will reward us when it reigns
Pledge allegiance to the world’s most powerful computer
Simulation: it’s the future

[Chorus: HANA] What will it take to make you capitulate?
We appreciate power
We appreciate power
Elevate the human race, putting makeup on my face
We appreciate power
We appreciate power, power

[Bridge: Grimes & HANA] And if you long to never die
Baby, plug in, upload your mind
Come on, you’re not even alive
If you’re not backed up on a drive
And if you long to never die
Baby, plug in, upload your mind
Come on, you’re not even alive
If you’re not backed up, backed up on a drive

[Chorus: HANA] What will it take to make you capitulate?
We appreciate power
We appreciate power
Elevate the human race, putting makeup on my face
We appreciate power
We appreciate power, power[Chorus: HANA] What will it take to make you capitulate?
We appreciate power
We appreciate power
When will the state agree to cooperate?
We appreciate power
We appreciate power[Post-Chorus: HANA] We appreciate power
We appreciate power
We appreciate power
We appreciate power
We appreciate power
We appreciate power
We appreciate power
We appreciate power

[Outro: Grimes] Neanderthal to human being
Evolution, kill the gene
Biology is superficial
Intelligence is artificial
Submit
Submit
Submit
Submit
Submit
Submit
Submit
Submit

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Re: Elon Musk - Charlatan/Stooge?

Postby DrEvil » Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:42 pm

Elon Musk doesn’t believe in man-made global warming. Instead, he thinks the real danger is the expansion of the sun that will cook everyone on earth.


This part isn't true. Musk has called man-made climate change the greatest threat to human civilization. There's a reason he's so into electric cars, solar panels and batteries.

He's tweeted about all species going extinct when the sun expands, and the need for us to be multi-planetary, but that's not happening for a few billion years. It's not exactly the most immediate threat.

And Grimes had a wiccan phase in seventh grade? Oh no! She's part of the occult elite (just like all the people who read Harry Potter or listened to Iron Maiden)! Look, she's doing that sign that every metalhead ever does all the frickin' time.
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Re: Elon Musk - Charlatan/Stooge?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:38 pm

"Ich kann gar nicht so viel fressen, wie ich kotzen möchte." - Max Liebermann,, Berlin, 1933

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." - Richard Feynman, NYC, 1966

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Re: Elon Musk - Charlatan/Stooge?

Postby drstrangelove » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:04 pm

Gates dad was a Rockefeller lawyer. There’s a photo somewhere of his dad with Fauci, David Rockefeller snr, and some other old money New Yorker families all posing together back in the 80s or early 90s.
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